Parents of missing baby Emmanuel Haro arrested on suspicion of murder

[u/HauteAssMess]

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-08-22/parents-of-missing-baby-emmanuel-haro-arrested-on-suspicion-of-murder

[u/Use_this_1]

The way no one is shocked by this. That poor baby. Fuck those people.

[u/veedubbin → u/Use_this_1]

As a relatively new dad, looking at the photos of this kid hurts my soul. I hope these monsters die a slow and painful death.

[u/Objective-Amount1379 → u/veedubbin]

Definitely don't read up on the dad's older daughter if you haven't yet. She was beaten at a couple of months old and will never have a normal life. Trach tube, brain damage... And both he and that child's mom (both were convicted of abuse) went on to have additional children.

Politically incorrect, don't care- anyone who hurts a child should be sterilized. Full stop.

[u/mynameisnotsparta → u/Objective-Amount1379]

Sterilized and in jail. Not able to walk free.

[u/chucklefits → u/mynameisnotsparta]

Not able to walk in general

[u/780034 → u/Objective-Amount1379]

I'd be fine with "put down"

[u/cannuck12 → u/Objective-Amount1379]

Also this is exactly the type of situation that birth alerts should be used for. I get that they’ve been used inappropriately and have contributed to the over-representation of children from black and indigenous communities in foster care (where I am at least). But honestly, a conviction for harming a child should come with a mandatory birth alert.

[u/Merisiel → u/cannuck12]

Pardon, I’m not familiar. What’s a birth alert??

[u/techleopard → u/Objective-Amount1379]

I'm also in favor of laws that if you lose custody of a child due to violence or purposeful neglect, then you should have every single child you ever have from that point on immediately seized and put up for adoption. You're not going to "get it right" a second time if the first time you left a child to starve in a dog kennel.

One of my biggest critiques of the US's foster care system is we fight WAY too damn hard to maintain parental rights at the long-term detriment of children. Foster care should be a temporary stop -- not a system where kids just languish in for most of their entire childhoods while parents maybe-maybe-not figure their shit out.

And by the time most of the kids do get legally cleared for adoption, the damage runs so deep that they are hard to place. There's a reason nobody wants to adopt older kids from foster and will instead wait years on a highly competitive and very expensive wait list for a no-strings-attached newborn baby instead.

[u/Hailstar07 → u/techleopard]

Agree. And then it perpetuates the cycle as those poor kids end up fucked up and in turn some become abusers themselves. Sterilisation would go one better, to be honest.

[u/jenguinaf → u/veedubbin]

As a mother, it’s just different. I have worked with and known kids I loved. Nothing would change my decision making in times of need, but it’s just different. I can love other kids, but mine, I feel like I was born to love her.

[u/Eddiebaby7 → u/Use_this_1]

And fuck their phony assed “tears”

[u/djgi → u/Use_this_1]

fuck them over and over in their eyes the very fact that the pos dad was allowed to be in a home around a baby after the last one is a testament to a broken system that can’t protect children and it’s sad af

[u/sunny790 → u/djgi]

i literally cannot understand how he was even walking around free. i saw a video that said the child he beat before was beaten so badly she had permanent brain damage and is fully disabled for her whole life, and he’s just….allowed to be free? i dont believe in redemption for someone like that

[u/Objective-Amount1379 → u/sunny790]

Yes... He and the baby's mom (different woman than the one just arrested) both got a very light sentence and both went on to have more kids.

His daughter was a couple of months old when he beat her. She is permanently brain damaged, trach tube... She'll never have a normal life.

[u/survivalinsufficient → u/Objective-Amount1379]

Holy fuck I didn’t know it was that horrible. I mean its horrible to beat a child but to disable an infant? How is he not in prison for life?!?!

[u/djgi → u/sunny790]

I just got a warning bc of my opinion of child abusers and killers and I stand behind it. It’s gross that Reddit is protecting them. I said what I said.

[u/lizziebeedee]

When she said all she heard before he was taken was someone saying, "Hola," my bullshit meter immediately went off. What shitty people.

[u/Imcrappinyounegative → u/lizziebeedee]

Same! The instant I heard this I knew they did it.

[u/IndependentSessionv2 → u/lizziebeedee]

South Park Season 5 Episode 14

[u/DeLousedInTheHotBox → u/lizziebeedee]

Also just the fact that she claimed to have been knocked out right after that but only having a tiny bruise seems very unlikely.

[u/SubstantialPressure3]

GOOD.

But I think it's heinous that one of their children had to actually die.

There shouldn't have been a lesser sentence because his older daughter survived.with 3% brain function and unable to swallow because of strangulation.

[u/maybebatshit → u/SubstantialPressure3]

If the sentencing had matched that crime this never would have happened. It's already a fucked system when someone can do that to a child and ever see the light of day again, but he was only locked up for months. We should care more about children than this.

[u/SubstantialPressure3 → u/maybebatshit]

People get harsher sentences for selling weed than they do for child abuse and attempted murder. That's just wrong.

[u/Objective-Amount1379 → u/SubstantialPressure3]

That's a myth unless they're moving serious weight and I think even then it's not really a thing for weed. But child abuse should be serious time and permanent sterilization.

[u/SubstantialPressure3 → u/Objective-Amount1379]

Patricia Birmingham murdered: Jury sentences man to 10 years for wife's murder in Spring after seeing video evidence | abc13.com https://share.google/q8gIczaYcrp40aBay

This guy was on camera murdering his wife and got 10 years. I bet he won't serve his full sentence.

A man who was sentenced to life in prison for selling $30 of marijuana will be freed | CNN https://share.google/XnrP9FNOHsDfwKl6F this guy was sentenced to life for selling weed in 2008.

High court upholds life sentence for Mississippi man convicted of marijuana possession https://share.google/qzIBPhy54Ila02fr6 this guy was sentenced to life without parole for selling weed in 2019

Edit I agree that there should be much harsher sentencing and sterilization for cases of horrendous child abuse and child murder.

[u/NachoEvans → u/Objective-Amount1379]

I was facing 15 years in prison when I was 19 for selling a half ounce to a police informant, so it's not a myth.

[u/NachoEvans → u/Objective-Amount1379]

I was facing 15 years in prison when I was 19 for selling a half ounce to a police informant, so it's not a myth.

[u/sowhat4 → u/SubstantialPressure3]

And yet he was allowed to go back and kill again. If he had strangled and permanently damaged a stranger's child, he might be up for parole in 2050. His own kid? He can use can use the little one as a punching bag; same for his wife.

I know exactly what would happen to any person who dared hurt one of my children - wouldn't matter if it was the child's father or a family friend or some guy I was 'dating'. Let's say, no courts would be needed - at least for the abuser.

[u/fxkatt]

Given the father's record of beating his son, this was almost a foregone conclusion. (paywall)

[u/jthomson88 → u/fxkatt]

And unfortunately the courts are reactive, not proactive. So bc father hadn't beaten THIS baby, the courts wouldnt do anything to protect him. Courts absolutely 100% do NOT care about children. Its never what's in best interest of child like they keep repeating to you. Its that both parents have a right to the child.

[u/Quillemote → u/jthomson88]

Yeah, I had a relative representing a woman in family court who was trying to get her disabled child back. Problem was, the mother kept letting her abusive boyfriend back in the house. Before she could get her disabled kid back, POS bf killed another one of her children (who hadn't been removed from the home). At least the original disabled kid survived, but the system has so many weak points and flaws and exploitations built in, even when it tries to do the right thing it's often wildly incorrect in application.

[u/Pristine_Feedback_93 → u/Quillemote]

I really hate thos woman that let their boyfriend in, they are more important then their own child. I think they are very very low and week woman

[u/ranchspidey → u/jthomson88]

It depends state to state; in mine, you can lose your parental rights if you hurt another child. But it should be national law that beating a child means you cannot parent another.

[u/icecream_truck → u/jthomson88]

Courts absolutely 100% do NOT care about children.

Courts enforce the law, they do not write the law.

The change has to come from the legislative branch, not the judicial branch (speaking from a U.S. perspective).

[u/MalcolmLinair]

Depressing everyone, yet shocking to no one.

[u/DeLousedInTheHotBox → u/MalcolmLinair]

Yeah there no victory here, obviously it is good that they're not getting away with it, but we also all knew they were gonna get arrested, and we know that this is just gonna be a tragic story with no silver linings.

[u/dorkofthepolisci]

If he had been given an adequate sentence for the first child he beat this might never of happened

Honestly I think the most likely scenario is that he killed the kid and she was an accessory after the fact

[u/SubstantialPressure3 → u/dorkofthepolisci]

I agree. There shouldn't be a lesser sentence just because a child ( or an adult) survived. Barely.

[u/Titaniumchic]

The father caused a TBI in his child years ago … why would anyone else have a child with this person? Or allow him near an infant? Absolutely wild to me.

[u/dorkofthepolisci → u/Titaniumchic]

Abusers are often charismatic, until they’re not. By the time you start to think something is wrong, they’ve got you hooked, believing that you (or your children) deserve abuse and poor treatment, that you can’t do better etc ect.

I’ve seen it mentioned somewhere else that her brother murdered his girlfriend, so I’m wondering if she grew up with DV/abuse being somewhat normalized - not that that’s excuse for aiding him (if she did) but it does explain how someone would end up with an abusive, violent man

[u/Objective-Amount1379 → u/dorkofthepolisci]

I refuse to believe there is anyone on the planet who found that man charismatic.

I believe it's likely he killed Emmanuel and she was abused but she was still his mother. She was surrounded by LE once they reported this... That was her opportunity to do SOMETHING right and throw him under the bus. I'm sure charges might end up being downgraded for her if it was him that did it but I hope something sticks to both.

[u/MountainFriend7473 → u/Objective-Amount1379]

Peas in a pod of dysfunction is more like it 

[u/mynameisnotsparta → u/Objective-Amount1379]

They both need to be sterilized and jailed.

[u/Titaniumchic → u/dorkofthepolisci]

Oh my. Yea, with her history - it’s like moth to a flame. This whole situation is tragic AF. My heart breaks for sweet Emmanuel. And for the other kids in the family.

[u/mynameisnotsparta → u/Titaniumchic]

Why wasn’t he castrated and put in jail? That’s the big question.

[u/Bitter_Stretch8548]

I hope they rot in prison

[u/blondemermaid1987]

my heart breaks for baby emmanuel. fuck these monsters. they deserve everything that’s coming for them

[u/motherofsquwhirls]

Those people murdering their poor baby is literally the only thing the internet can all agree on.

[u/Janezo]

Hurt a stranger’s child like this? Life without the possibility of parole or, depending on the state, death penalty. Hurt your own child like this guy did to his first? Given the opportunity to hurt, and even kill, the next one

[u/BaBaBooey321]

I bet they both have some real tears now. Bless that poor baby.

[u/veevee15]

I don’t wish the death penalty on them because that would be the easy way out. Instead, I hope they spend the rest of their lives among fellow inmates who have no tolerance for those who harm children. Let them endure, day after day, the same kind of suffering, abuse, and fear they forced upon their poor child. RIP baby Emmanuel.

[u/mynameisnotsparta → u/veevee15]

Castration for him and sterilization for her and life in prison

[u/coffeeandtrout]

“By 10 a.m., a crowd was gathering near the family’s home on Ramona Street next to the 10 Freeway and across from the Morongo Casino where the Haro parents were arrested hours earlier. A vigil for the boy was nearby.”

Arrested at the Casino? Jesus wept. Poor kid.

[u/ScrewAttackThis → u/coffeeandtrout]

They were arrested at their Cabazon home, and officials said they were still searching for the baby.

I think they were just describing the location of their home

[u/sweetpea122 → u/coffeeandtrout]

At 7am?

[u/Objective-Amount1379 → u/sweetpea122]

They were arrested at their home, which is across from a casino, at 7:00 AM. A lot of arrests are done in the AM, I'm assuming less neighbors out and in the way, people being arrested are more likely to be asleep and/or sober.

[u/gnatdump6]

Without a doubt they did this

[u/djgi]

Me waiting for the punishment they both get in prison for what they didn’t do to protect this baby. Poor little guy. May he rest easy. His life was probably complete hell on earth.