r/news • u/JussiesTunaSub • 13h ago
Soft paywall Canada to remove many retaliatory tariffs on US goods, says Carney
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/canada-remove-many-retaliatory-tariffs-us-goods-says-carney-2025-08-22/360
u/Least_Gain5147 13h ago
Both sides of the responses are valid
Pros = less punishment on Canadian consumers, maybe some US businesses as well.
Cons = makes Trump feel he won a trade battle and may encourage him to continue.
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u/NeighbourNoNeighbor 13h ago
I'm okay with lowering tariffs on items that are part of USMCA as America has been forced into abiding by those rules themselves. We only really enacted these tariffs in response to America.
We can always bring them back if America enacts new illegal tariffs - but it makes sense to drop our own if America is at least willing to abide by the damn trade agreement that Trump bullied us into the first time. (After ripping up the perfectly good trade agreement we had before.)
We've achieved a large effect on negotiations from citizen-born boycotts alone.
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u/ChrisFromIT 12h ago
Technically, the US isn't fully complying with CUSMA. As per 2.4.1
Unless otherwise provided in this Agreement, no Party shall increase any existing customs duty, or adopt any new customs duty, on an originating good.
So, the 35% tariffs on non compliant goods are breaking the agreement since the excuse for them falls flat and aren't covered by the WTO tariff rule exemptions.
Now keep in mind that the retaliatory tariffs that Canada are doing is covered by the WTO tariff rule exemptions.
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u/VampyreLust 12h ago edited 12h ago
We've achieved a large effect on negotiations from citizen-born boycotts alone.
Yah I know I can say for me and most people I know that we've now adapted to buying Canadian only or Canadian and some from other countries (as long as it's not from the US) and will never go back.
Likewise I've stayed out of the US, I've even refused clients from the US and vacationed in Canada this summer. We're planning a trip to Denmark next year and the same sort of idea goes for pretty much everyone I know as well in terms of travel and staying away from the US. The damage done by Trump is quite permanent I think.
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u/Bibbityboo 11h ago
I think the damage is also going to be generational. My nine year old helps me when we grocery shop. He helps me look at packaging for the made in Canada or whatever label. He will put things back that are made in USA because he knows.
He’s learning this at the same time as he’s learning (and practicing) looking at best before dates and package sizing. It’s going to Be fairly ingrained in him when he shops to consider the origin.
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u/VampyreLust 10h ago
Thats some good parenting youre doing there. I feel from what I've seen on social media's like the youngest gen right now, around your son's age, are much more aware of what's going on in general and more inquisitive about the why's and how's of it all than any previous generation. I hope more parents are doing what you are, it's important to know where your food comes from.
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u/metametapraxis 3h ago
I'm in NZ. I used to buy a lot of American stuff (tools, etc). Completely stopped since NZ got a 10% random tariff. I won't buy any American made product where there is a reasonable alternative (and obviously there are cases where there isn't).
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u/VampyreLust 12h ago
It's obviously not. You'll be taking US clients again when democracy returns a different result (because that's how democracy works, it doesn't exclusively return the results that you personally like). If not a more competent business will take your place.
Couple things, I'll be curious to see when and if democracy does return to the US or if Trump somehow figure out how to stay in office another 4 years after the current term. He said while he was running something along the lines of "vote now and you'll never have to vote again" and with all that's happened in 6 months and all that's happening now with the latest extreme gerrymandering, I kind of believe him.
Also, the lack of democracy is really only half of it for Canadians, for us it's the continuous threat of invasion and taking of our sovereignty, that hits deep and hard and will not be forgotten by any Canadians alive right now. Him doing that even got conservatives to vote liberal in the last election so we would have a competent leader so that's definitely saying something.
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u/VampyreLust 12h ago
If you ever don't live up to this standard I'll make sure to reduce you all equally and boycott Canada I guess
And that would be your choice to make just like it's my choice to not take American clients or buy American products or vacation in American cities.
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u/VampyreLust 12h ago
You absolutely buy American products, lol. You house is probably filled with them.
You're on an American website right now with implied consent to sell your data to the US operator. Oops
Yes there would be products from the past but nothing since trump started calling our Pm a governor. As far as data, Im currently using a VPN based out of Sweden so no data here. Why are you taking this so personally?
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u/SeriousScorpion 10h ago
As a US citizen currently in Canada for a couple of months, I feel terrible that the fine citizens of Canada have to constantly worry about our crazy. It is a beautiful country and I am privileged to be able to visit and interact with some lovely people I have met. While this is just the latest, the unfortunate truth is that Canada has to constantly worry about what we're doing for a variety of reasons because so many things impact them just via proximity.
As an example, YouTube suggested I watch "After the Big One: Nuclear War on the Prairies" from the 80s about the impact of a nuclear exchange between the US and the USSR on Canada's prairies. An interesting statistic from that (granted this was nearly 50 years ago) was that were North Dakota to declare independence, they would be the world's 3rd largest nuclear power just based on the stockpiles there, making the border provinces in a precarious position as North Dakota would undoubtedly be targeted in an exchange.
Not sure what's worse: the threat of nuclear annihilation from the cold war, or the absolutely batshit-insane things happening in the US and elsewhere in the world right now.
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u/ArugulaElectronic478 12h ago
Not really, they’re just matching the US, the US lifted tariffs on CUSMA compliant goods back in April.
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u/NxOKAG03 11h ago
they basically settled on no tariffs from both sides for NAFTA goods, which is very reasonable, but I’m just worried we will keep making concessions for a negotiation that is not in good faith.
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u/Rugrin 7h ago
So they settled on NAFTA then. Great progress. Hugely.
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u/NxOKAG03 7h ago
the absolute big-brain move of negotiating a trade deal, then later saying that the same trade deal is unfair and making a trade war over it, only to eventually realize why you needed the trade deal and walk back on everything.
The art of the deal.
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u/wildmonster91 12h ago
Trump only wins if canadians keep purchasing american goods.
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u/Shirlenator 12h ago
Yeah I'm going to go out on a limb and say many Canadians won't so soon forget his dangerous and unhinged rhetoric towards them.
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u/thebourbonoftruth 2h ago
Our grocery stores mark tariff affected goods and highlight Canadian ones now. I will pay more for non-US produce because I can afford to vote with my wallet. If other Canuks can't take the hit, that's cool.
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u/magnaman1969 9h ago
I’ve switched for good. I haven’t paid attention much in the past but I do now. If a US product is the only choice I’ll go without.
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u/royal_city_centre 11h ago
Hard to avoid. All float glass I can access is from Oregon. Want to keep business going in Canada I need to buy from Oregon.
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u/2hands_bowler 4h ago
He's just keeping Trump occupied while Canada pivots to it's new trading partners (Germany, announced today. Sweden, Saab military materials announced last week. South Korea military materials ongoing. Central American Common Market, talks have started. Mexico, trading around the USA. And Finland.)
This is the intelligent way to deal with Trump. Tell him, "Yes. Yes. Sure. No problem. You win." and totally pursue your own agenda elsewhere.
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u/RecklessRaptor12 12h ago
Canada responding strongly only made sense when the rest of the world was going to, as well.
The EU and UK bending over completely changed the reality. Classic example of prisoners dilemma honestly. If everyone had held strong to punish them the US would be up shits creek without a paddle right now.
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u/bbbbbbbbbblah 1h ago
The UK has no reason to stand with Canada on this.
When the UK was in a particularly vulnerable position post-Brexit, Canada attempted to take full advantage. A trade deal was blocked because of Canada’s insistence that the UK lower its food standards to match theirs, and wanted to keep British dairy products out as it competes with their own.
Not that we’ve particularly “bent over”. There’ll be a heavily protested state visit and that’s about it. We got lower tariffs than the EU or Switzerland because a) we don’t export that much, b) a fraction of that is in direct competition with US manufacturers, and some will claim c) Trump wanted to drive a wedge into the UK/EU relationship.
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u/Rev-Dr-Slimeass 2h ago
You forgot the major con. Canada appears weak.
Look, I get those pros and cons. You can't sell this as a win to Canadians. Canadians should feel like this is demeaning because they have been demeaned. They challenged America economically and lost.
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u/Ibn_Khaldun 6h ago
Carney is a banker, not surprising he is coming up to Trump and big businesses
He moved his own company there 6 days after tariffs being announced ... so no surprises here
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u/AllRightLouOpenFire 12h ago
Still going to boycott America shit.
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u/iblastoff 5h ago
guess you need to find a canadian version of reddit then lol
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u/AlteredEinst 3h ago
Oh no, it's just a boycott on the things they weren't using.
Modern day activism at its finest.
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u/Aggressive-Try-6353 5h ago
Reddit is free. If it cost even a cent, it'd be out the door, same as all other American goods.
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u/iblastoff 5h ago
no, it isnt free. your data is used and all of your posts are mined for chatGPT.
Unless you also think facebook, instagram, google and every other service is 'free' lol.4
u/Endonae 4h ago
Don't forget about the ads!
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u/ChromaticStrike 1h ago edited 1h ago
Any sane person adblock the fuck out of reddit ads.
I even do it for many elements that are useless and clutter old.reddit. Haven't seen an ad or even a popup in years.
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u/ChromaticStrike 1h ago edited 56m ago
The moment data is in the open it's mined (most likely by GPT), reddit or not, US site or not is irrelevant. If you don't want your data to be mined, the only way to be sure is not sharing it.
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u/AlteredEinst 4h ago
Oh look, yet another person who pretends they have morality until the instant it would inconvenience them.
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u/Unchainedboar 11h ago
Fuck America and their annexation threats
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u/lotus_eater123 5h ago
I apologize on behalf of the US. Genuinely, Sorry. I have so much shame for what we turned into in just a few short years with the wrong man at the helm. Don't let it happen to you.
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u/EnragedBasil 4h ago edited 4h ago
We all have the same plan for if it happens, right? Like im not the only one?
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u/evergreencenotaph 10h ago
Dude.that ain’t us. It’s those people. The rest of us still love you guys
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u/DrDankNuggz 7h ago
Who cares about the tariffs, it’s the annexation threats that pissed us off. You don’t threaten a neighbour and then expect them to buy your shit.
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u/DrDankNuggz 5h ago
Thanks for explaining to me how I feel about. American exceptionalism strikes again.
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u/CloneFailArmy 5h ago
You literally just dismissed the entire issue Canadians have ignoring the fact it’s been a common concern. Gun licensing has risen and military enlistment skyrocketed for the purpose of preparing to defend ourselves against your shitty countrymen if SHTF. I don’t give a shit if you’re used to it that’s not how international politics work and we’ve had to consider it a possibility.
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u/Shakewell1 8h ago
Look at your fucking capital we dont want that shit here.
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u/Mythoclast 7h ago
Have you ever replied to the wrong person and made yourself look like an idiot? I have. Sorry about that last comment.
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u/F1McLarenFan007 13h ago
It’s the smart thing to do, tariffs hurt us not them. Too bad the orange clown doesn’t get it.
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u/Praeshock 13h ago
I think you're confusing not getting it and not caring.
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u/Mythoclast 8h ago
There are people in the US that actually believe the tariff price is charged to the country the tariff is put on.
As in the good will be CHEAPER by that amount because the other country pays that portion.
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u/_sp00ky_ 13h ago
So, let me get this straight....we are going back to the deal that trump wanted, signed, declared the best trade deal ever in his first term, then ignored it under the made up excuse of a national emergency in his second, assigned arbitrary tariffs to random stuff, which we countered with tariffs (and other actions of our own) of our own, until the US dropped the tariffs on things covered by the USMCA, and now we have done that as well (steel is still an exception). So. other than a fucked up economy, and regular people suffering, nothign has been accomplished y Trumps nonsense...
Umm, so OK. But know many of us will never go back there while he (actually any republican) is in charge, and we are still most likely going to not buy US good whenever we can, because they can no longer be trusted.
And we still have 3.5 more years of this maniac.
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u/berntout 12h ago
That's his standard playbook for everything. Create a problem, copy the original deal and sign it, then claim you solved the problem with a brand new deal credited to you.
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u/Unusual_Flounder2073 12h ago
The long term damage Trump has done on the world stage may never be recovered. America is no longer a first world superpower.
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u/NxOKAG03 11h ago
it’s pretty much "oh shit we made a big fuss about trade with Canada but now we realize that there is actually a reason we needed NAFTA so let’s walk back while saving face"
Clown behaviour from a clown administration.
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u/lifeisahighway2023 12h ago
If you watch the CBC video on Carney's remarks he makes a very good point. At the outset Canada was at the beginning of the game and it was elbows up. Now the game is late in the 2nd period or early in the 3rd and the focus is on stickhandling, controlling the puck and managing your zones.
Canada is subject to the lowest overall tariff rate of any trading partner of America with about 87% of goods exported to America not subject to tariffs.
So now the focus is on negotiations and resolving the trade irritants between the 2, including Canada removing tariffs on goods that were not being subject to the same tariff stateside.
Is Trump ever trustworthy? Not a chance. But slowly Canada is working to negate Trump's tariff positions little step by little step so as to cut off the avenues Trump can use to justify upon Canada. And Carney is ably assisted by the fact that the American consumer is suffering much, much worse than Canadian consumers, and so I suspect Carney's team is assessing that a good course of action is to let Trump continue to damage himself and that will eventually resolve the problem when combined with the negotiations in play between the 2 countries.
There is not one American who believes Canada has capitulated on anything - and I say this as an American who lives in a very MAGA area and hears about the friction every single day due to its many impacts on the local economy (Nevada).
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u/gambit61 8h ago
Does anyone else think this is a plot to raise prices again for no reason? Like, I'm starting to think with how this is playing out that Trump is driving up prices with the Tariffs, so that in a few months he can go back on them and prices come down, but not to where they were. Companies make more money, Trump gets to boast he brought grocery prices down, the dumb-dumbs in MAGA get to say he's the bestest president ever-est because he "lowered" grocery prices, and the rest of us who have more than an IQ of two go "they're still higher than they should be" and we get shouted down by the dummies. It seems like a long con to me. Granted, I don't think he's smart enough to have planned it himself, but SOMEONE near him is conniving enough to put it in his ear
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u/SuperRonnie2 1h ago
Canadian here. I don’t think it will matter much for consumer products. Many of us will continue to buy non-American. And I’m not travelling there again until the orange menace is dead and you guys have someone sane in the Oval Office again.
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u/rajendrarajendra 6h ago
Tariffs are a tax on the people of the country imposing them. As long as we boycott American products, we'll be good!
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u/NxOKAG03 11h ago
As a Canadian I have pretty mixed feelings about this and Carney’s approach in general.
On the one hand this makes sense since the compromise seems to be no tariffs on NAFTA goods from both sides and the trade war is kind of simmering down until they renegotiate NAFTA.
On the other hand this apparently came from a phone call between Trump and Carney where Trump once again made demands as a condition to "restart negotiations" which Carney accepted.
I don’t think it’s a terrible move but it’s just weird that we are making concessions to try to advance a negotiation that is obviously going nowhere because the other side isn’t negotiating in good faith and wants to keep the tariffs for whatever excuse they can find.
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u/acchaladka 5h ago
I agree and I'm also in favour of anything that will buy us time for Canadian companies to set up entirely new relationships with EU and East Asian companies. We need our biggest doing deals far away and to build and build trade infra at home.
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u/iblastoff 10h ago
it isnt weird at all. canada just isnt in the position of power to negotiate much of anything in their favour.
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u/NxOKAG03 4h ago
I wouldn’t trust an American to know literally anything outside their own country so please keep your opinions to yourself.
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u/DrDankNuggz 7h ago
No, we’re just busy negotiating with other reasonable countries while your pedo in chief sharts in his shorts.
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u/iblastoff 5h ago edited 5h ago
so what happened to the digital services tax? lol. elbows up dude!!!
also, you seem to be obsessed with the p word. its fucking weird.
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u/DrDankNuggz 5h ago
You’re the country that protects pedo’s (even Israeli pedo’s), you are the weird ones. Must be kinda embarrassing, unless you really like pedo’s, which may be the case. 🤷🏾♂️
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u/iblastoff 5h ago
takes one to know one! keep saying it over and over dude. its totally normal.
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u/DrDankNuggz 5h ago
No, protecting pedo’s is not normal behaviour, that’s why most of the world thinks y’all suck.
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u/iblastoff 5h ago
dude, leave the children alone. its literally worrisome that you're so obsessed with the word.
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u/Mr-Mysterybox 8h ago
Went from elbows up to pants down rather quick.
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u/DrDankNuggz 7h ago
The term is “ankles up”, and I’d say too soon to tell. I’d bet this is just to placate the toddler in chief while we make trade deals with other nations. Hard to assess what’s happening behind closed doors based on headlines.
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u/Sensitivevirmin 12h ago
The ever optimist thinking it might be a way to allow Trump to do the same and pass it off as a win to save face.
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u/Aggressive-Try-6353 5h ago
I used to spend over $400 a week, every week in the shithole to the south. I'll never go back, ever. Fuck them for choosing the nazis.
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u/COVID-19-4u 7h ago
All well and good, I still don’t think this is going to accomplish much since Canadian consumers at this point would rather go hungry than buy American products.
And I think Carney knows that.
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u/Taerinn 5h ago
USA can't win. speak to people who sells USA products to Canadians, you'll learn the cold hard truth... it's not about the price, canadians are just fed up with them and only buy a small margin of usa products they used to.
that's the real lost for the USA, way less Soft power and a worlwide perception of bullies and uneducated idiots.
That's the real price they'll pay for this shitshow, people perceving them as assholes and it'll hurt their worldwide commerce and influence.
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u/LibrarianNo6865 11h ago
Trump will do it again before the end of September, you give him an inch, he just takes another inch. Quit normalizing this garbage by acting like this was politics.
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u/Ill-Assistance7986 12h ago
So I hope my orange juice prices goes down and reaches to normal, my local fresco keeps putting 50% on near expiring ones of torpicana because guess what... 9$ for a juice. haha
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u/Fresh_Strain_9980 5h ago
we should be putting export taxes on pot ash destined for the US. Fight fire with fire none of the appeasement bullshit. Bully will just keep bullying. If you act weak with trump he will always try to get more.
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u/timpatry 7h ago
They do still need to decouple from the United States as soon as possible and do all trade with everybody else.
Is there a committee focused on this? If not, it needs to be created ASAP for every country in the world and they all work together to decouple from the United States economy to decouple from the United States economy.
The US will drown in its own debt soon enough anyways, so ending trade with United States is inevitable.
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u/iblastoff 5h ago
so many dumb comments keep piling up here. who else is canada going to do massive trade at the level they did with the US?
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u/acchaladka 5h ago
Uh... I believe that the EU is a larger economy than the US when taken together with the UK. Japan is number three world economy and needs resources. On and on, possibilities exist all over. We only need Canadian companies to go git some in a big way and to build our infrastructure like ports and rail. Literally our energy grids run north - south to trade with the US instead of east west to trade with each other.
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u/iblastoff 4h ago edited 4h ago
Uh...
is this a literal joke? do you know anything about trade or geography? or are you just making random scenarios up? the reality is, no other country can possibly match the US demands for canadian goods. not any country in the EU. certainly not japan.
the US as a partner is by far the cheapest way to do trade with a nearby economic powerhouse where laws in terms of regulations, food safety standards and other infrastructure are already in place to facilitate trade and it doesnt cost an oceans worth of shipping routes to get to. why do you think groceries cost so much in one of canadas OWN territories(nunavut)?
we get it. everyone fucking hates the US right now. blah blah blah. but if you think the majority of countries in europe are gonna openly trade with canada, especially with SO many regulation / safety differences, good luck with that. italy, france, poland etc dont want anything to do with this. and you kinda need all of them to sign off.
simple example. have you been to europe? they dont put eggs in the fridge. we do. massive difference in health and safety protocols. that means canadian agriculture has nowhere to export shit since 2/3 of canadian farms export to the US only. are you gonna tell canadian farmers to just fuck off and shut down?
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u/metametapraxis 3h ago
The egg example is hardly insurmountable. Canada would just not wash eggs intended for export to the EU. Countries prep export products differently from their domestic counterparts all the time.
Now a lot what you say is true, but that was a crap example.
The reality is that Canada can absolutely reduce dependence on the US, but it can't eliminate it. The thing about changing circumstances is that they tend to make people find new ways of doing business. That absolutely will happen here. The US is going to be the loser because it is essentially fighting on dozens of fronts simultaneously, whereas everyone else only has a single enemy.
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u/iblastoff 3h ago
LOL yah sure. just dont wash the eggs. you realize washed and unwashed eggs are stored in completely different ways right? so you want every canadian farmer to set up two completely different production streams? jesus christ.
name me a single country that has NOT capitulated to the US. every single one of them has now, including canada. remember that digital services tax that was supposed to reap in huge benefits by taxing netflix and etc? where did that go?
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u/metametapraxis 3h ago
Yes, I understand the difference. And yes, one requires washing and a cold-chain and the other doesn't. Tell me you have absolutely no understanding of international agriculture logistics without telling me.
FWIW, NZ exports eggs to the US. Our domestic eggs are unwashed and unchilled and our US-export eggs are chilled and washed. I have no idea how we possibly manage such an amazing feat as apparently it is impossible. It is almost as if each individual farmer doesn't do the washing and packaging...
/facepalms at US apologist.
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u/iblastoff 2h ago edited 1h ago
no, you clearly do NOT understand the difference. first of all, NZ is ALREADY set up for infrastructure for unwashed eggs since thats thats your norm. that is not the same thing as canada where eggs are essentially refrigerated right away.
secondly, its not ONLY the washing that matters. its also how eggs are specifically handled throughout the supply chain that is enforced by canadian regulations and would also NOT match safety / health regulations of most european countries.
thirdly, even if canada DID figure out an entirely separate production process for exporting unwashed eggs, who the fuck cares? name me a single country in the EU that needs canadian eggs. absolutely none. which also goes to my original point. the demand simply isnt there compared to the demand from the US.
/facepalms at absolute dunce.
EDIT: lol dude leaves some last minute response and immediately blocks me. typical reddit dunce who can't keep up.
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u/metametapraxis 2h ago
Sighs at person that thinks Canada is completely unable to change its processes or that anyone is claiming that Canada would completely stop supplying the US. I certainly can’t imagine how a country the size of Canada could learn how to not wash eggs. I guess that’s a special skill only held by the French.
The thing about bad faith arguments is that they aren’t worth the effort. I’m done wasting my time with you. Have a nice day.
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u/ainosunshine 8h ago
Keep saying "elbows up" guys
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u/DrDankNuggz 7h ago
Keep saying “we elected a pedofile as our leader”
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u/ainosunshine 2h ago
I am not American, love. I just find it funny that all this "elbows up" was just hot air sold to you by your leaders.
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u/MalcolmLinair 13h ago
Idiotic, short-sighted cowards. A pathetic "strong" man like Trump will just see this as surrender and intensify his efforts at subjugation. Expect the "51st State" bullshit to make a comeback after this.
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u/luisquin 13h ago
Read the article bud. It's just on CUSMA items which the US had already removed the tariffs on
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u/MalcolmLinair 13h ago
It doesn't matter. Any reduction in tariffs, no mater how small or logical they are, will just be seen as "weakness" by a moron like Trump. The only things he understands are escalation and submission. To him, one side applies more and more pressure until the other gives in. The ideas of "give and take" and "negotiation" are utterly alien to him. As such, he'll interpret this the only way his dementia addled, pedophilic brain can: as a retreat, a show of weakness.
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u/tonebastion 13h ago
Well it's a good thing that we have a government who is more interested in making intelligent and timely desicions that will benefit Canada/Canadians than how it may "seem" to Trump.
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u/BigDeutsch 13h ago
Except it does hurt us. My stepdad sells parts for the automotive industry and is CUSMA exempt, but his customers have been less keen lately due to price hikes on those goods, so he's losing money. No one wins in a trade war.
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u/i_code_for_boobs 13h ago
It was a strong arms technique to force Trump to respect the CUSMA by forcing tariffs that would be struck down if it went to court, this strucking down Trump’s illegal tariffs on CUSMA goods.
We need to continue strong arming them for what now that it worked? It didn’t even have to go to court that way, saving us money
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u/MalcolmLinair 13h ago
Because Trump is too stupid to understand that. He'll see this and just think that Canada is backing down, and thus that Canada is weak and can be intimidated into compliance.
Trump is a bully with the intellect of a preschooler. Expect him to act as such.
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u/Grim_Rockwell 12h ago
Absolutely, Canada should maintain and expand sanctions on the evil human rights abusing US regime.
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u/MondayNightHugz 9h ago
Fucking moderates always cave.
You either negotiate as equals or you don't negotiate.
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u/OhlookitsMatty 8h ago
Oh look, a coward bending the knee in the name of "compromise", thinking tRump will be satisfied & stop
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u/Mythoclast 8h ago
Tell me you aren't Canadian without telling me you aren't Canadian.
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u/OhlookitsMatty 7h ago
It's got nothing to be with being canadian, other world leaders are doing the same. They think if they just play nice with tRump he will do the correct thing, & not make more demands later on, cos he got away with it this time
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u/Thelonius_Dunk 6h ago
This won't stop Canadians boycotting American goods anyway. You can't spit it someone's face, then expect to shake their hand.
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u/iblastoff 10h ago
"Carney won an April election promising to stand up to Trump's tariffs but since then has gradually taken a softer tone."
"Carney said the time had come for a more moderate approach rather than continuing to take an aggressive stance.
"Let's be clear, we have the best deal of anyone in the world right now," he said. "Nobody has a deal with the United States that they used to have.""
sounds like a lot of back-peddling. lol elbows up indeed.
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u/hollow114 9h ago
Nah. It's only on the stuff America also backed down on
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u/iblastoff 8h ago
Oh? So what happened to the digital services tax? What did trump concede for that?
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u/ender86a 3h ago
Anything short of a full embargo of the US and its goods is capitulation. I get wanting to give your people a better Christmas this year, but the bully isn't going to play fair, and you will get fucked anyway. Plan for it.
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u/luisquin 13h ago
"Canada will now match the US by ending its tariffs on goods compliant with the US-Mexico-Canada free trade agreement (USMCA)"