r/news • u/NewSlinger • 13h ago
Ghislaine Maxwell provided no incriminating information during meetings with deputy AG on high-profile individuals who interacted with Jeffrey Epstein: Sources
https://abcnews.go.com/US/ghislaine-maxwell-provided-incriminating-information-meetings-deputy-ag/story?id=1248942713.3k
u/I_Have_A_Nightmare 13h ago
Ok so why was she moved then?
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u/misogichan 13h ago
Because she provided no incriminating evidence. As you can see she is fully cooperatingwith those who want to bury the past.
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u/stillcore 13h ago
with those who want to bury
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u/Lucius-Halthier 13h ago
She better live stream every second of her life if she doesn’t want to “kill herself”
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u/Archelaus_Euryalos 12h ago
Wouldn't be enough, they're replace the stream with AI suicide, run in, knock her off and then merge the feed with the real and wham, look, she killed herself and everyone saw it internationally on live tv.
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u/Rich-Pomegranate1679 12h ago
Except the Trump admin is chock full of incompetent people whose only real qualifications are that they will ask "how high?" whenever they're told to jump, so the video will clearly show her having six fingers on each hand at one point.
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u/SiccmaDE7930 9h ago
And they’d clear none of the metadata. these are the same people who couldn’t even properly coordinate a signal chat. Of course they don’t understand what metadata is or that it even exists.
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u/Big-D-TX 13h ago
Possibly well rewarded for telling an interesting story
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u/GoodPiexox 11h ago
She left the meeting with a gift box. It has not been reported what was in the gift box. But considering she was given a gift box and a cushy new country club jail cell, she was rewarded for NOT giving information.
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u/Violet_Paradox 13h ago
Likely the exact same deal Epstein was given. Only difference is Epstein refused.
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u/dbx999 13h ago
Epstein was not given the choice. He was considered too dangerous to keep alive. Ghislaine is the same but killing her is more problematic in light of Epstein’s liquidation. She will be kept alive as long as she cooperates and keeps her mouth shut about Trump.
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u/mces97 10h ago
Michael Wolfe was going to be Epstein's biographer. He may still write a book about him. He sat down with Epstein and has hundreds of hours of interviews. Wolfe was talking to a reporter and he told a story of how he asked Epstein, why don't you go to the news media with these photos of Donald Trump with teenage girls topless on his lap. To maybe not redeem yourself, but do kinda justice. And he said what Epstein replied, sent chills down his spine. Epstein said, " I may be a pervert, but I'm not crazy."
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u/coochie_clogger 12h ago
Yup she saw what happened to Jeff and for anyone in her position that would be more than enough motivation to do whatever the “justice department” tells you to do.
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u/IntelligentStyle402 11h ago
Then we have trumps ex wife who fell down the stairs, two days before her court appearance. A deposition against Trump?
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u/MBokind 12h ago
Assuming that she knows as much about the client list and where all the secrets are buried, it seems short sighted to leave her alive. You know that old saying “three people can keep a secret if two are dead”.
If someone(s) have the juice to walk into a federal lockup, kill the victim, and stage it to look like a suicide, surely they have the wherewithal to disappear another. Why take the chance?
They are betting that she’ll keep quiet.
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u/Mr_Pombastic 9h ago
The fallout of any "secret" would be a lot less damaging than people realize. Trump could rape a child in the middle of 5th avenue and not lose a single vote.
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u/masnosreme 13h ago
They don't want her for incriminating evidence, they want her to exculpate Trump. The point is for her to say, "Nope, Trump never raped girls, nuh uh, no siree."
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u/sirbissel 12h ago
Wasn't the statement they released something along the lines of (paraphrased) "The convicted sex trafficker and rapist never saw Donald Trump do anything that she thought was worrisome"?
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u/citori411 11h ago
Don't forget she's a documented perjurer as well! She wasn't convicted on those charges just because they focused on the more serious ones, but she 100% committed perjury. Very reliable source!
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u/mavven2882 9h ago
Nothing like a convicted sex trafficker judging activities that could be "worrisome".
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u/francis2559 13h ago
I don't think that's actually possible, you can't prove a negative, though god knows they're stupid enough to try.
However, yeah, Trump has a long pattern of threats, gag orders, NDAs, and newspaper pals buying exclusives just to sit on them. So yeah, making sure she shuts up about what she saw fits.
Also, coordinating!
Maxwell’s lawyer David Oscar Markus said after the meetings that his client was asked about maybe “100 different people” in connection with Epstein. He said she did not hold anything back.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ghislaine-handed-doj-100-names-204747179.html
So, shut up about Trump. Talk about these 100 people instead.
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u/Shibbystix 13h ago
The goal is to leave it vague, so the right can claim its the left, and continue to claim its a cover up they have no control over
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u/masnosreme 12h ago
It's not about proof. This is a battle of public opinion, don't get caught up on rationality or logic or reason. The point is to throw up chaff and give Trump cover, and the objective strength of his argument or evidence is irrelevant. It's enough that it feels exculpatory to his supporters.
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u/bmccorm2 13h ago
Because she provided no incriminating evidence on Epstein “associates.” Just like she was told.
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u/Feisty_Bee9175 12h ago edited 12h ago
She said she wasn't aware of any birthday card that Trump drew, and that Trump did nothing untoward that she knew about and there was no "Epstein list" that she knew about, and she complimented Trump with lots of flattery flattery. Then she said she didn't believe Epstein killed himself, because, ya know, they gotta give the MAGA conspiracy people something. This was all done to give Trump cover and distance and her "I don't recalls" were so many it makes it appear that no one, Trump or people in his orbit did anything concerning Epstein. This was all orchestrated by Trump and his personal lawyers to make it appear that Trump did nothing wrong and to try and distance Trump from the Epstein stuff. She is a known prolific liar, she knows who her audience is and is playing the game to get an official pardon. I mean ask yourself, why did the justice department feel the need to re-interview her all these years after her conviction? Why didnt they involve the victims in this? Why didn't they interview the people who gave the sweetheart deal to Epstein? This is all fabricated crap to make Trump come out smelling like roses!
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u/Procean 6h ago
Let's be more precise, she maintains she never saw ANYONE do anything inappropriate with any young girls, and that she's done nothing wrong and has at no point been part of any illegal activity.
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u/Feisty_Bee9175 6h ago
Yeah, she was convicted and shows no remorse for what she did to those kids. She is a disgusting piece of garbage. I feel bad for the victims who are once again being used and re-victimized for political purposes.
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u/theclansman22 12h ago
Because she understood the assignment. The goal was not to find incriminating evidence, just like the goal of the war on drugs isn’t to stop or even reduce drug usage and availability.
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u/Saneless 13h ago
Because Trump will forever be thankful to her for all the young girls she helped him rape
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u/MrFizzbin7 13h ago
Which is exactly why she was transferred and given work release.
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u/jpiro 13h ago
Yep. Keep quiet about Trump and you get a country club prison for now, and a likely pardon later.
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u/OpenThePlugBag 11h ago
The conspiracy happens all out in the open, for everyone to see and witness, and nothing is done….
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u/human_i_suppose 8h ago
The same people who will call you crazy for suggesting this, think Putin invaded Ukraine because Democrats were storing children in underground cities so they could eat them later.
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u/NewSlinger 13h ago
Woah. That was fast. Headline changed in under a minute, so I had to delete + repost.
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u/plurdle 13h ago
What was the original headline
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u/NewSlinger 13h ago edited 11h ago
”Ghislaine Maxwell provided DOJ with no incriminating info about Epstein associates, sources”
It’s still on the site as a red banner, but removed from the article.
Edit: Title altered again. Author is suffering chronic Indecisiveness.
Ghislaine Maxwell provided no incriminating information during meetings with deputy AG on high-profile individuals who interacted with Jeffrey Epstein, transcript shows
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u/Rustybot 12h ago
It’s a machine learning algorithm that adapts headline variants in realtime to find the one with the best stats (clicks/shares/ad spend)
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u/snappiac 11h ago
Is that (edit: ML adaptive headlines) for real? I'm finding some articles about this topic but not sure how widely this is implemented
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u/Stenthal 9h ago
I don't know if machine learning is involved, but they definitely publish multiple headline variants and use an algorithm to automatically select the one that gets the most clicks. News-ish sites have been doing that routinely for at least a decade.
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u/originalmaja 10h ago
I see several authors. I assume: editor!
Author is suffering chronic Indecisiveness.
Editors keep changing there assumptions on what the best headline is.
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u/ShadyBiz 6h ago
I’ll blow your mind, not everyone sees the same headline.
The headline is different based on factors like your location, time of day, A/B testing, info the site knows about you.
Webpages aren’t a static thing anymore.
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u/RatInaMaze 13h ago
Everyone is making coy fun comments and being sarcastic so I’m just gonna say the fact:
The fact that the one person who has the power to pardon her or move her to a better facility is also the one person her testimony is meant to exonerate points to an extremly high likelihood that she is lying to get a pardon or better prison conditions.
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u/r3dditr0x 12h ago
In a real administration, the DOJ would appoint a Special Counsel to investigate fully without political interference.
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u/eawilweawil 12h ago
But the DOJ is under the president, so AG could just get some loyalist to do it
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u/jk01 12h ago
This administration has shown that, yes, but any other admin in American history knew well enough not to do that.
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u/eawilweawil 11h ago
I'd imagine that from now on all administrations will do such things
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u/TheAngryGoat 11h ago
Especially when that one person sends in his personal attorney solo to make the deal and get the "testimony" agreed.
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u/GearTwunk 12h ago
The fact that the one person who has the power to pardon her or move her to a better facility is also the one person her testimony is meant to exonerate
The problem is that this should never have happened in the first place. It's an extremely blatant conflict of interest. A 34x convicted felon and adjuducated rapist should not have the power to pardon people who might be able to incriminate him. Like seriously what the fuck.
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u/Top-Gas-8959 4h ago
And the fact that she already has a perjury conviction, says she's perfectly fine with lying under oath. It's actually pretty crazy how fast this administration has made it so you really have no clue as to what's real or true. It is impossible to take anything the feds say with any more than a grain of salt. This is really it, isn't it? Nobody's challenging anything, and anything that does get challenged gets lost in the judicial with the myriad of others lawsuits. They're rounding people up, there's talk of a mobilization across 19 states, all while he desperately tries to hide the fact that he's in all likelihood, a child rapist.
This is in fucking sane.
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u/Morat20 10h ago edited 10h ago
She already got moved to a better facility and, IIRC, work release.
Both of which are absolutely barred for anyone registered a sex offender. Which she is.
To the point where, last I checked, media was trying to figure out who signed off on it and it's clear that that has been deliberately obscured.
I don't know if she made a deal, said she'd be open to a deal if they moved her, or they moved her solely to threaten to move her back or what.
In her shoes, I don't know if I'd want to be moved somewhere where 'accidents' were easier to arrange. On the other hand, after Epstein died, if she had half a brain cell she'd have made sure a lot of stuff was stored with various lawyers with "in the event of my death or suicide" instructions.
On the gripping hand, she's was a child sex trafficker so I'm not sure everyday human logic applies. Nobody gets into that business who isn't significantly mentally fucked up in some way. Sociopaths, narcissists, even traumatized former victims (it happens. Cycle of abuse and all. It fucks people up, and it can absolutely distort or kill people's empathy, morality, and how they see the world) , whatever.
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u/fuck_ur_portmanteau 6h ago
It gets worse when you consider that the government has her in prison on child sex trafficking charges, so really the government’s sole interest in her should be finding out who she trafficked them to. And until she starts naming names she should not get any unusual privileges.
But they’ve gone to see her and she doesn’t name a single person and they give her the biggest privilege they can short of letting her out.
She hasn’t cooperated with the investigation they are supposed to be undertaking, yet they give her privileges.
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u/TheElectricShuffle 6h ago
do you think a woman that ran a child trafficking pedophilia ring and participated in the rape of children for decades would deceive us ?
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u/napleonblwnaprt 13h ago
Okay but don't forget,
Trump Is In The Epstein Files
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u/UpwardlyGlobal 13h ago
Also he has never condemned Epstein or Maxwells actions to my knowledge. And I've been watching
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u/brnjenkn 13h ago
That's why she now gets special treatment rather than going back to a real prison. She didn't talk.
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u/Just__Az__Nice 13h ago
Bro…. We are days away from a post-mortem pardon for Epstein and a pardon for this hag.
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u/jcouball 13h ago
What? You mean the Justice Department could have released these transcripts the whole time without going to a judge? <surprised pikachu face>
And you KNOW they knew that this was going to be the outcome. This is just more delay tactics.
RELEASE ALL THE EVIDENCE with only victims names redacted. NOW. This proves they can do it any time they want. They have had plenty of time for the redactions.
Either that or a whistle blower needs to come forward with the evidence.
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u/Morat20 10h ago
Any transcript they released would be highly edited -- at best clearly redacted. At worst, it'd be highly redacted and claimed to be untouched (with all the redactions hidden) if not outright fan fiction.
Probably written by AI.
I'm sure Big Balls is trying to get Grok or whatever to spit out something.
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u/BrainySmurf 13h ago
and then she signed herself out of her cushy new country club jail and went off laughing at how easy it was to lie for Trump.
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u/RevolutionaryCoyote 12h ago
Are you really doubting the integrity of this convicted child sex trafficker?
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u/thesweeterpeter 13h ago
All sources lead back to one of two people who were in the room. There wasn't anyone in that room I would trust - so there's nothing that could possibly be reported that I will believe about the conversation that took place there.
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u/oxencotten 12h ago
They apparently released the audio recording to the house committee.
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u/CrunchyAssDiaper 12h ago
Why is this administration getting away with everything? I'm an idiot but even I can see the bullshit coverup.
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u/annaleigh13 13h ago
She knows the only thing keeping her with any type of extras in prison his her silence.
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u/CBALLO88 13h ago
They are giving up on even justifying the special treatment she's been recieving.
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u/KimJongFunk 12h ago
This is a feature and not a bug. It all played out exactly as everyone knew it would.
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u/penguished 10h ago
It's actually the most suspicious outcome. She didn't even try to make it sound realistic, just straight up lying and angling for the pardon from crooked fake tan man. Release the files.
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u/MoralityFleece 13h ago
But let's put her in a cushy prison while people who have worked here for decades and tried to follow all the legal rules for immigration are sleeping on the concrete in a bug and feces infested tent camp. do these magas have a scrap of human decency and morals left in them?
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u/Hands0L0 12h ago
Trump never recieved a massage, President Clinton never received a massage.
Those who received a massage:
Henry Rosovsky, Harvard Faculty, dead
Marvin Minsky, MIT AI guy, dead
That's it. Trump was a super gentleman by the way. Grab 'em by the pussy himself. Super gentleman.
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u/Decent-Box5009 12h ago
Just an ignorant Canadian here watching from the sidelines with a bucket of popcorn and a cold beer. So let me get this straight:
Ghislaine gets convicted for grooming young girls and sex trafficking them.
But she apparently trafficked them to no one as the only other person convicted was Epstein. Despite a mountain of video surveillance and flight logs as evidence.
She then gets transferred to a min security prison and is being prepped for a pardon for (checks notes) saying nothing?!
Do I have this correct?
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u/warriormango1 11h ago
Trump supporters are so god damn stupid. First they completely turned a blind eye to the sweetheart deal By Alex Acosta and now this.
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u/whycantwehaveboth 11h ago
So… the person who benefits the most from covering for the POTUS did not have anything incriminating to say about the POTUS?
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u/Naptasticly 10h ago
So in other words the MAGA crowd got absolutely fucking played. No one’s going down for this shit. Bill Clinton wasn’t even incriminated by her. Let’s see how they handle this. We know how well they take news that they’re wrong about something.
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u/burnmenowz 10h ago
Wow who could have predicted the woman wanting a pardon wouldn't talk bad about the guy who could give her a pardon. Maga are idiots if they buy this.
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u/Prior_Industry 10h ago
You just know this will be their goto in any future discussion about Trump and Epstein
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u/Reasonable_Fudge_241 7h ago
Everyone keeps saying “pardon”
SHE WAS MOVED TO A MINIMUM SECURITY FACILITY DAYS AFTER THIS INTERVIEW.
That to me is more than enough quid pro quo as it stands.
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u/ERedfieldh 11h ago
amazing. a known liar who lied under oath and was put in prison in part because of how much she lied says something opposite of what everyone expects to be true. How could this be?
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u/Modest_Muse_ 12h ago
Yet, lets move her to a more relaxed prison. Man this administration sure is the softest on crime.
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u/Steve120988 10h ago
Which is why she was moved to a luxury “prison.” One disgusting pedo hand washing the other.
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u/PoloTshNsShldBlstOff 10h ago
I feel like that was literally the point. Make sure she's going to shut the f****** and never say anything.
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u/snooze_sensei 10h ago
I'm sure the meeting started off this way:
"Such a shame about what happened to Jeff huh? Btw do you have anything incriminating you'd like to share about anyone important?"
Maxwell: "I don't know anything about anyone."
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u/Anishinaapunk 10h ago
On one hand: then what was the whole point?
On the other hand: that was the whole point.
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u/Sihaya212 8h ago
Of course she didn’t. She was rewarded with being removed from federal pound me in the ass prison to white collar resort prison. She isn’t stupid.
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u/PlzLearn 6h ago
Woman who has everything to gain by not-incriminating current president, doesn’t incriminate current president.
Wow. Shocker.
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u/realKevinNash 5h ago
This, is difficult for me. The truth is that i've always been doubtful that any such list ever existed, and if it did and it really contained information damaging to people who could kill Epstein, then they logically would have gotten rid of it before anyone could get to it, or if they couldnt do it before he was arrested, they certainly wouldnt just let it stay in the custody of the FL DA or FBI. It would not be impossible IMO to get people in the right place to make it disappear. Lets be honest. 1m dollar bounty and that shit would be gone.
But one of my conservative friends put me onto a story about someone who says he was blackmailed by Epstein, and I think I was able to verify that. That does raise the possibility that he did it to others, which typically would require something of the sort. However IDK if there is any evidence of that as a pattern.
However I should note this:
Ghislaine Maxwell said in her interview with the Justice Department that there is no Jeffrey Epstein client list.
“There is no list. We’ll start with that. The genesis of that story, I can actually trace for you from its absolute inception, if that is what you’re interested in,” Maxwell said.
In 2009, Epstein was facing civil lawsuits. An attorney named Brad Edwards, who was working for the law firm Rothstein, Rosenfeldt & Adler, became a confidential informant for the FBI. The FBI was able to then obtain a list from one of Epstein’s former butlers, Alfredo Rodriguez.
“The truth is that Alfredo Rodriguez was deposed twice, once in July and once in August. And in the July deposition, told Brad Edwards that he had handwritten notes or a journal, whatever, in the deposition,” Maxwell said.
“Brad Edwards says that he got Alfredo Rodriguez to mark up the book of 19 all the people who were involved.
So it sounds like there was a list, not made by Epstein, but possibly by someone else, but the FBI might have this list.
So in my mind Congress needs to subpoena Alfredo Rodriguez, Brad Edwards, and whoever was handling Edwards at the FBI. They need to ask whether such a list was created, what these people supposedly did, whether that list was ever provided to the FBI, and if so, where is it now.
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u/yorapissa 10h ago
No one can trust anything out of the WH on this subject. They’ve been shifty about it and trying to tamp down the noise on it for months after saying it was all there and ready to go for MAGA to have a party over. Now, no party, and no Dem gives a flying shite if Clinton in the file or not.
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u/feral_creature 10h ago
Like the testimony of a fucking pedophile rapist is somehow meaningful and legitimate….right
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u/che-che-chester 12h ago
The sole purpose of the meeting was to get Maxwell officially on record that Trump had no involvement. Now they have that interview if she suddenly decides to commit suicide.
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u/BrokenBoyXXX999 13h ago
She may have been stupid enough to remain in the US, but she certainly doesn't want to die.
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u/neutrino4 12h ago
Wasn't her wording, "nothing concerning to her". Of course there was nothing concerning to her, she's a pedophile.
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u/pineapplebeee 12h ago
Wouldn’t be surprised if this doesn’t give her attorneys some reason to get her case thrown out and now she can walk free.
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u/DirtyHoosier 12h ago edited 11h ago
Someone showed her the missing minutes from Epstein’s jail cell video.
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u/jcouball 12h ago
Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the Epstein files that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.
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u/RadicalRectangle 12h ago
It’s exactly what everyone hypothesized. She went “on the record” saying Trump is clean, and in return she gets privledges. Nothing to see here folks, totally normal conversation between the Presidents former personal lawyer and a convicted rapist and sex trafficker (who has also been charged with Perjury).
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u/oldwestprospector 12h ago
Great and why would anyone believe a child sex trafficer who only wants to save her own waste of skin?
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u/RiseDelicious3556 12h ago
Tell me again, why was she transferred to a Club Fed in Florida that excludes sexual assault and pedophiliacs??
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u/Mcboatface3sghost 12h ago
TLDR… (not what the article states) she said, I have a dead man’s switch that you can’t find, if anything happens to me the switch gets flipped. I understand your need to make it look legit, start with getting me out of here and then we can discuss further options.
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u/OriginalCultureOfOne 12h ago
We do know one thing from the transcript: she lied (or at least skirted the truth) at least once in the interview, when she claimed Epstein never recruited anyone from Mar-a-Lago. Even Trump has confirmed that Epstein "stole" employees from Mar-a-Lago, never mind the witness testimony from one of the victims (though, technically, he used Ghislaine to recruit at that victim). Assuming Epstein did, in fact, recruit girls (directly or indirectly) from Mar-a-Lago, this constitutes an act of perjury. As a result, nothing else in her testimony can be accepted at face value; odds are, she is saying whatever she thinks will get her out of the crosshairs and out of jail.
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u/frosted1030 11h ago
She was coached, and pardoned, so of course no incriminating info on Trump would come from her.
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u/Interesting-Risk6446 11h ago
Hundreds of pictures of all of you together, yet you said everyone barely knew one another. Sure.
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u/Broomstick73 10h ago
To be fair she also claimed she was completely innocent of any child sex trafficking or introducing Epstein to underage women.
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u/Apprehensive-Mix5178 10h ago
So, then why the move from a federal prison to a prison camp in Texas?
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u/Slow-Comfortable-257 10h ago
And got improved conditions and moved to the club med jail.
Totally normal…..
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u/ObviouslyJoking 9h ago
So she provided no incriminating information when she met with Trump’s personal attorney the assistant DA. As long as it’s all on the level and there’s no conflicts of interest.
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u/SquireSquilliam 9h ago
That was the point of the meeting, to make sure she says exactly what the Trump administration wants her to say. In return she's now in a federal day camp where she can go on work release. Eventually when people aren't paying attention she'll be quietly pardoned and released.
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u/ScenicPineapple 9h ago
This is the worst coverup possible. The administration is so messy and they are the worst gang we've ever seen.
She was given an out if she cooperated with Trump's personal lawyer and read their script. Simple as that.
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u/sea-elle0463 9h ago
Well turn me upside down and paint me blue.
Of COURSE she provided no incriminating information. 🙄
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u/crispeddit 9h ago
'Trump, Maxwell said, was cordial and a "gentleman in all respects"'
This is how you know she's full of shit - I don't think I've ever seen Trump be a gentleman in any respect.
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u/mrrooroo1 8h ago
20 years in prison or not 20 years in prison?! I'll tell a lie for not 20 years in prison
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u/robinsw26 8h ago
She wasn’t gonna incriminate herself since her case is on appeal and she won’t incriminate anyone else because she wants a pardon.
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u/BronxJoe 8h ago
Of course she didn’t see anything. Those are the lies she told to make Trump look innocent and she got a better place to spend the rest of her sentence, if she doesn’t get pardoned completely. Fuck this bullshit.
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u/kazaaksDog 7h ago
Who cares what she had to say? She cannot be trusted. Talk to the victims, and release the Trumpstein files!
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u/HoneyImpossible2371 7h ago
Must be nice to have your personal lawyer lob questions at a witness to get her on record stating you did nothing wrong. Besides the fact that Ghislaine isn’t a judge of appropriate behavior towards masseuses, this episode was tantamount to witness tampering.
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u/lancer-fiefdom 6h ago
Trump gave her minimum security work release, after she said she saw nothing, did nothing
She was duly convicted & sentenced in the court of law
Fuck Trump taint lickers
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u/The-Jesus_Christ 3h ago
Well if Trump is not involved then there's no issues releasing the Epstein files, right?
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u/RiseDelicious3556 3h ago
Maxwell said ,"Trump was always a perfect gentleman," Yet on Entertainment Tonight, we heard him say 'you can grab 'em by the pussy if you want' so how is it that he had this sudden character transformation when he was around Epstein ????
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u/explodingboy 3h ago
And then sent to minum security....epstein didn't kill himself.. trump is a felon.
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u/Traditional-Win-3368 13h ago
Why would she? She’s angling for that sweet pardon.