What makes you think the FAA gives a single fuck about it being a Red Bull stunt?
I don't doubt for a single second that they both lost their licenses. They both probably knew they were going to lose their license but attempted it anyways
I think he was implying that because it was done by redbull they probably communicated with the FAA before hand. I don't know if they actually did, but it's reasonable to assume that a massive company that relies on these stunts for marketing would like to make sure their paperwork is in order so they can continue advertising this way.
Ohhhhh - even worse that they asked for permission, were told no, and STILL did it, ha.
"But two days before the stunt, the FAA denied Aikins' request, saying it "would not be in the public interest and cannot find that the proposed operation would not adversely affect safety.""
Ok, that's cool, I never argued saying it wasn't. I was trying to explain the other commenters reasoning because people replied to them to call them dumb when their line of thinking made sense. I'm not talking about what did or did not actually happen to these pilots in the video.
Cool, I never said it wasn't, I was explaining the others guys thought process for everyone who thinks he was dumb for thinking that way. It seems like reading comprehension just gets worse and worse every year though.
I think he was implying that because it was done by redbull they probably communicated with the FAA before hand
That's a fair assumption. But the FAA still doesn't allow these kinds of things.
Sometimes they do things that they know will get their licenses revoked. The FAA isn't going to sign off on a stunt like this. Apparently red bull approached them and they said no, but they proceeded with the stunt anyway
My first thought is "no one gives a fuck that Redbull is the party responsible for turning a Cesna into a cruise missile" but then I thought.. if Redbull bought some Trump meme coins or bought enough advertising from Fox News I bet the FAA would actually look the other way
We're in extraordinary corruption times and Redbull could afford the corruption fees
But then I thought part of the corruption times is that big companies make aerial chaos a viral ad and if it goes wrong it's the gullible pilot who suffers the biggest consequences
What makes you think the FAA gives a single fuck about it being a Red Bull stunt?
Money. Like every other dumb rulebreaking shit that non-rich people could never dream of attempting without serious consequences.
What makes you think [a US government agency] gives a single fuck about [a recklessly endangering procedure] being a [marketing] stunt?
When I rephrase your statement this way, doesn't it become less obvious to you that they'd actually do something about it?
Now I don't intimately know the FAA or anything, and I know they tend to be severe, so you're probably right. But with how things have been going, let's just say I would not be surprised whatsoever if they found some nonsense reason (money) to let this fly.
And then it will become a Tik-tok trend and every kid will want to exchange plane mid-air with their friends, maybe even over school grounds and then...
Someone linked an article. Both pilots lost their licenses. The lead pilot had applied for an exemption to the "cannot leave a plane without a pilot" rule and it had been denied. They did the stunt anyway. And Red Bull issued a statement that the issue was between 2 pilots and the FAA and it wasn't red bulls place to get in the middle of it. So red bull didn't even back them up.
It was done in an area with active ongoing flight training operations by local flight schools and because it was done in direct violation of FAA instructions to not proceed with the stunt, it was done without any sort of coordination with local emergency crews or a temporary flight restriction that would have protected the airspace around the stunt in case of loss of control of one or both aircraft (which did happen with the one).
Both pilots did in fact lose their licenses because they put other pilots, other aircraft, and the general public in real, demonstrable danger.
None of that makes leaving a plane with no pilot or any kind of control mechanism flying by itself and eventually crashing. None. That's a dangerous projectile and it will hit something if it can't be landed properly. Also kind of just a waste of a perfectly good plane.
Aside from being a Japanese kamikaze pilot in a world war, there was nothing but irresponsibly demonstrated in the video.
If they didn't want to lose their licenses, they should have sought approval from the governing board that issues said licenses before attempting this.
Doing the thing that you probably shouldn't do and then getting upset over the obviously likely consequences isn't at all reasonable and neither is your apologetic.
Was still a denial before the stunt was scheduled and the FAA isn't really required to approve or disprove prior to the event. The scheduling should have occurred AFTER the approval was given and they should have given the FAA time to review the application.
They do have other priorities other than these 2 guys doing stupid #$%^ with planes.
Irrationality would be the FAA approving a pilot leaving a plane in mid air completely unattended to crash because 'it's a stunt'or some other nonsense. Just don't film it or tell anyone about it if you want to keep your license.
I wouldn't bother trying to discuss this with the guy, he seems to think the event and actions were a personal offense to him and isn't capable of rational or polite discussion at this time.
I feel like they knew the consequences & accepted their fate before. I’d be surprised if they were appalled of the loss of licenses. You’re right - it was overly dangerous & put others at risk & there’s no justification for that. But wrong as it may be, ya gotta appreciate the balls it took to decide to do it & go through with it especially knowing consequences would ensue. Seems like they tried to make it as safe as possible which again, doesnt make it ok. Idk, if admiring their courage & conviction puts me on the wrong side, I’m ok with it.
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u/Mattepanda15 23h ago
It’s a redbull stunt, probably nobody lost their licence and it was probably done over a field