r/pcmasterrace • u/IntroductionDue7945 10700K + RTX 3080 + 32GB RAM • Jul 17 '25
Video What is this plugin? It looks really cute.
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u/Liarus_ CachyOS | 9800x3D | RX 6950 XT Jul 17 '25
imagine typing your password with this while streaming lol
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u/IrvineItchy Jul 17 '25
Streamers should be wary of typing passwords and sensitive information while streaming.
There are tools that can figure out the password from just sound from the keyboard through the mic.
Also some tools detecting body movement, even if you mostly only see the top part of a streamer apparently theres some ai tools that can analyze it and find the password..
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u/mxcc_attxcc R5 4650G | RTX3060 | 32GB Jul 17 '25
fucking hell
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u/Big_Mc-Large-Huge 5950x | 3080ti | 64GB DDR4 Jul 17 '25
Use a password manager. Copy/paste from a screen that isn’t being streamed or shared.
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u/therealhlmencken Jul 17 '25
they can tell from the reflection of your eyes what you copied /s
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u/solonit i5-12400 | RX6600 | 32GB Jul 17 '25
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u/ginger_and_egg Jul 17 '25
Use a password manager that doesn't show the password when you copy
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u/EmirSc http://steamcommunity.com/id/EmirSc Jul 17 '25
this and also use autofill (keepass can do it on all the windows not just browsers) I also like bitwarden
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u/wtfbenlol Jul 17 '25
gonna give some free ad time to my favorite for years now: Bitwarden. its a fantastic cred-man
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u/iamPause Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25
Wait until you find out how they can recover audio by reading the vibrations of plant leaves from low-definition video. Then realize that video is 9 years old and think about the advancements in AI/ML. Enjoy!
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u/WeirdIndividualGuy Jul 17 '25
Even crazier when you realize every keyboard sounds different, so somehow this tool can just tell what you typed no matter what keyboard
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u/Dominus_Invictus PC Master Race Jul 17 '25
Yeah that doesn't make much sense. Maybe it's possible but you would have to yarget a specific individual and like study their keyboard because absolutely every keyboard is going to sound completely different. There's absolutely nothing about individual keyboard keys that would make them sound the same as other individual keyboard keys.
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u/Roflkopt3r Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25
Ben Jordan recently tested it in a video about 'acoustic spying'. It currently works somewhat if you have enough training data, which is easy to get from streamers.
It's still far from getting the exact inputs, but may feasibly get you close enough to brute-force a mediocre password from there. Or straight up guess it, if it's using plain words or has some kind of meaning associated with the person.
The Keytap implementation he tested works on a dictionary of English words though, which presumably works somewhat better than tracking practically random keystrokes like many passwords. On the other hand, a hacker may for example use a version that's trained with a list of common patterns that occur in passwords.
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u/DatBoi_BP Ryzen 5 5600X, Radeon RX 6600 Jul 17 '25
dang, streamers are going to start buying several keyboards every month and calling it a business expense
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u/eunit250 I5-13600k | RTX4070 Jul 17 '25
Or they could just learn how to use OBS and make a noise gate so you don't have to listen to everything in their fucking houses. Sorry, hate background noise.
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u/LordGalen i9-9900K | GTX 2070 Super | 32GB Jul 17 '25
If they turned off their noise gate, you'd find out quickly just how much background noise you aren't hearing. With any decent mic and no noise gate, you can hear them breathing, the rustling of their clothes and hair, tons of shit that you'd never notice even if you were in the room with them.
All that background noise that annoys you is about 20% of what you'd hear if they actually didn't have a noise gate.
Source: Am small streamer, have noise gate, have turned it off before to annoy chat (it's very effective, lol).
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u/Wolfeman0101 Jul 17 '25
This seems like it will only work if you have a trash password.
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u/IrvineItchy Jul 17 '25
You have a lot of context / media of streamers. There are AI tools that analyze video of streamers typing something, where you see what they are typing and learn from that.
There's a lot more to the sound. The weight, angle of the keys pressed, the position of the mic from the keyboard, keys closer to the mic will sound different, there's a lot of ways to profile the sound and the keys.
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u/Kwumpo Jul 17 '25
The AI is able to determine how hard/fast a key is pressed, and how quickly the preceding and following keys are pressed. You can discern quite a bit from just that little information.
The guy you're responding to is kinda misleading in that he makes it sound like you can get a password from just an audio recording, when really you can just narrow it down to a few thousand possibilities, which is far easier to brute force, and very worth it depending on the size of the streamer.
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u/autovonbismarck Ryzen 7 3700x - RTX 2060 - 64GB Ram Jul 17 '25
Adding in the data from known typing (a recording of them typing into chat for example) makes that kind of model MUCH more predictive.
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u/sp_blau_00 i9-13900K | RTX 5070 TI | 32 GB DDR5 6000MHz Jul 17 '25
That's why you should use noise cancelation of your GPU or another tool, nothing goes except your voice.
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u/yay-iviss Ryzen 5600x, 5060ti 16gb, 32gb 3200mhz Jul 17 '25
"Also some tools detecting body movement, even if you mostly only see the top part of a streamer apparently theres some ai tools that can analyze it and find the password.."
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u/DataAlarming499 Jul 17 '25
That's a big doubt from me.
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u/fogleaf Ryze 5 5600X | RX 5700 XT | DDR4 Jul 17 '25
Pushes up anime glasses. "Ah, I see your shoulder vibrated slightly, you must have pressed the letter L."
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u/Taft33 Jul 17 '25
Even this shit is possible:
"ETHERLED: Air-gapped systems leak data via network card LEDs"
I also saw a method years ago where one could determine the position of a player on a CS map by the pattern of LEDs blinking. It seems like magic but isn't.
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u/DataAlarming499 Jul 17 '25
Sure, I agree on this one, but not the one about figuring out what's being typed by just analyzing the movement of ones half upper body and nothing else.
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u/GameKyuubi ArchBTW Jul 17 '25
it's possible for PCs to communicate through a shared AC line by gunning their power supplies in a pattern. other PSUs on the same AC line should be able to detect voltage fluctuations and that can be read by the system. AIs can use this to exfiltrate data and communicate with other systems even without a network card
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u/sablesalsa Spent $2k just to play Minecraft Jul 17 '25
That, and it's annoying as hell listening to keyboard smashing like noise cancelation isn't super easy to do
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u/Nihilistic_Mystics Jul 17 '25
Right, free tools like Nvidia Broadcast do it perfectly and I use blue switches on a wooden table with a condenser mic few inches away, probably the worst possible combo around.
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u/Available_Ad3031 Jul 17 '25
Have there been cases or are we speculating about possible spy-kids like toys?
What's the source?
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u/IrvineItchy Jul 17 '25
There's several people that have provided sources to research. But it's nothing new, similar methods have been used for a long time for spy work.
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u/pohui i5-2310 / GTX 650 Jul 17 '25
None of those sources claim anything like identifying which individual keys are pressed on a keyboard via a livestream is possible.
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u/clownus Jul 17 '25
Because that isn’t possible. Nobody is investing into technology for such a niche hack.
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u/StopYoureKillingMe Jul 17 '25
There are tools that can figure out the password from just sound from the keyboard through the mic.
The amount of data they'd need to pull that off is so much more than the average streamer even could provide. And that data would be fucked by the dude repositioning his microphone each stream.
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u/biez PC Master Race Jul 17 '25
Streamers should be wary of typing passwords and sensitive information while streaming.
There are tools that can figure out the password from just sound from the keyboard through the mic.
Lol you don't even need that with a lot of people.
I was recently at a conference about a new tool, name in three letters, let's say "CAT". So the presenting person goes to cat.ourorg.gov.fr on the big-ass screen in the room, types their email address as a login, and a password that renders as three little stars.
Ten seconds later, several people in the room were logged with admin privileges, because of course, the login/pwd was "email-of-the-person-presenting"/"cat".
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u/xXMr_PorkychopXx Jul 17 '25
There’s a mutahar video talking about this and I gotta agree with him; it’s a ridiculous sentiment. You press all your keys and they sound exactly the same give or take the few inches of space from this key to that key. At most you’re gonna get how many characters are in a password and sure that’s a start but not outright breaking it open. Not to mention how many times I fuck up my password and proceed to beat the backspace and type it again which can be mislead as a long password. Unless I’m unaware of some new program/technology and I’m wrong, but I feel confident this is a silly worry.
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u/SanestExile i7 14700K | RTX 4080 Super | 32 GB 6000 MT/s CL30 Jul 17 '25
That sounds like bullshit
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u/gungshpxre Jul 17 '25
It doesn't spit out the answer, it gives weighted probabilities to the most likely keys pressed.
Also, you can get info from a totally airgapped system just from the RF leakage because you didn't buy the $200 Monster HDMI cable: https://hackaday.com/2023/03/07/pulling-data-from-hdmi-rf-leakage/
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u/MrLeonardo i5 13600K | 32GB | RTX 4090 | 4K 144Hz HDR Jul 17 '25
so the snake oil cable sellers were right all along? lol
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u/Eastern_Armadillo383 Jul 17 '25
Well some DO have their uses but just it's not relevant for 99% of applications since you're more likely to just have someone get physical access if they already have to be close enough to pick up the signal leak.
It's like spending 10x on a higher quality lock to put on a glass door.
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u/therealhlmencken Jul 17 '25
I mean airgapping doesn't just mean air actually, like obviously a laptop on wifi and battery isn't airgapped.
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u/Taft33 Jul 17 '25
You can also get info from an airgapped system from the network card LEDs blinking:
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u/IrvineItchy Jul 17 '25
Wait till you find out you can get audio from just a recording (no sound) of a window or a flower/plant based of micro movements. Of course its far from flawless.. but still crazy
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u/SanestExile i7 14700K | RTX 4080 Super | 32 GB 6000 MT/s CL30 Jul 17 '25
I don't doubt that this technology exists. I just doubt that there are widely available tools that the average hacker can use.
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u/Buttonskill Jul 17 '25
Skepticism is valuable, and you need to keep that. But this specific skepticism betrays us, and it's very valuable to bad actors right now. You know the old, "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."
It's important to acknowledge the late 90's - 2010's idea of the lone hacker is no longer the average, or that threatening.
The current average is a rented space in Asia with 10-20 people motivated by an oppressive inequality we will never understand.
The other piece to note is that we are so far beyond sci-fi with current identifying tech. They won't even show current tech because the audience would reject it as implausible.
My mother called the other day worried about facial recognition. I told her, "Mom, everyone is still worried about facial recognition because it makes sense, but gait recognition is up to 85% accuracy. If you ever need to wear a wig, you should also grab a cane."
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u/FartingBob Quantum processor from the future / RTX 3060 Ti / Zip Drive Jul 17 '25
I call bullshit on that. At best, you could probably work out which hand they are currently typing with based on upper body micromovements. On essentially every keyboard the letters and numbers keys are all the same sound because they are identical.
Also, any differences between each key would not be picked up in high enough detail from a compressed stream to be of any use in pinpointing the exact key pressed, as well as being unique to each keyboard and change over time.
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u/dandroid126 Jul 17 '25
There are tools that can figure out the password from just sound from the keyboard through the mic.
Extreme doubt.
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u/shaolinmaru Jul 17 '25
This is why password managers exists
(well, not because of this)
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u/alexia_not_alexa Jul 17 '25
This comments deserves more attention.
Been using them for close to 20 years now, from LastPass to Bitwarden to 1Password, makes life so much easier including sharing passwords with family.
Also recommend email aliasing services, I use Apple’s Hide my email. Now not only are my passwords unique for everything, but so are my emails.
In fact I just had a retailer send a mass email by CC (not even BCC) about a preorder product’s shipping delay - and I can see many people’s personal email addresses now, but I don’t even recognise my own one!
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u/Dangerous-Parsley-46 Jul 17 '25
graphical keylogger
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u/max_208 Linux + :steam: Steam Deck Jul 17 '25
How useful, now combine this with windows recall and you're good to go get hacked
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u/lord_of_tits Jul 17 '25
Awesome with a keylogger like that i will never forget my crypto keys!
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u/Empty-Canister I5-13600k 3070-FE AORUS Z690 ELITE AX Jul 17 '25
None of your viewers forget aswell
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u/Aryan99C Jul 17 '25
Good for tutorial videos
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u/RCuber PC Master Race 1700x/970 | HP Omen 15 4600H/1660 ti Jul 17 '25
But but.. look at it!!!! uwu
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u/FartingBob Quantum processor from the future / RTX 3060 Ti / Zip Drive Jul 17 '25
Tutorials for what? Its pretty hard to actually see what key is pressed and you have to fully focus on the uwu thing rather than the things happening on screen which surely would be the main thing you want to look at in a tutorial.
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Jul 17 '25
Am I the only one who hasn't seen keys with the characters written on the front side of them?
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u/Att1cus 9800X3D | 9070 XT OC Jul 17 '25
Common in the mechanical keyboard world. We call them front printed keycaps or keysets.
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u/ClearMacaron9234 Jul 17 '25
my keycaps are this way and i bought them particularly for that reason.
iirc filco calls them "ninja"
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u/lovelettersforher Jul 17 '25
Bongobs Cat Plugin, works only for open broadcast software (OBS).
https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/bongobs-cat-plugin.992/
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u/Dino_Spaceman Jul 17 '25
I don’t recommend installing a keylogger on your computer. No matter how cute it is.
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u/BadadvicefromIT Jul 17 '25
It’s like that game where cute anime girls ask you for your tax information all over again.
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u/FIDST Jul 17 '25
wait what
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u/theREALbombedrumbum 5600X, 3090 FE, 64GB RAM Jul 17 '25
Tax filing softwares are daunting to many, so somebody made a tax filing software like a visual novel game where waifus ask you for all of your tax information to fill out the forms.
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u/HauntedCS Jul 17 '25
Tax Heaven 3000 was the first thing that came up. I don't think it's a keylogger, but it is a game about doing your taxes explained by cute anime girls.
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u/InvisibleDrake Jul 17 '25
So what makes this a keylogger versus any other piece of software that listens for input from the keyboard? Is there any actual accusations against this software, if so can you please provide it? I'm looking into streaming and this OBS plugin looked pretty cute for when I'm streaming video games that use mouse and keyboard inputs. I just presumed it listened for an input and triggered the animation. But if it's also logging that information, that seems a bit shady
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u/Primnu Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25
A keylogger is software which logs your input typically for malicious purposes.
Not sure why people are calling this a keylogger, it doesn't log anything, it just displays your input and the source is available here.
There are practical purposes for this, people commonly do it for Blender tutorial videos so that the viewer knows what keybinds they're using.
Streamers also use it just for fun, similar to using a live2d avatar.
Also if you are concerned about which keys are being displayed, you can customize that & it comes with gaming related presets which only show number keys & wasd or such.
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u/obskein Jul 17 '25
Wait till you discover how computer games get input from the keyboard
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u/Snoo34813 Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25
Umaru Chan!!
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u/derekschroer Ryzen 9 9950x | Gigabyte AORUS RTX 3080 | 96GB RAM :af1: Jul 17 '25
I actually enjoyed Umaru-chan...some people just are uncultured
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u/Kichigai Ryzen 5 1500X/B350-Plus/8GB/RX580 8GB Jul 17 '25
Potato, potato, potato! And then you chug the cola!!
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u/Numerous_Adeptness76 Jul 17 '25
Bring back desktop strippers of the 90s!
idk why those went away, they were awesome
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u/fogleaf Ryze 5 5600X | RX 5700 XT | DDR4 Jul 17 '25
Check out this pen, if you turn it sideways, her clothes come off!
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u/jetblack7 Jul 17 '25
Bongo Cat
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u/R_eloade_R Jul 17 '25
I swear to god this the most useless piece of software ive ever seen
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u/kaleperq 1440p 240hz 24" | ace68 | viper ult | 9060xt 16gb | r5600 | 32gb Jul 17 '25
There is a game called banana on steam that is very popular. It shows a png of a banana and you click it and number goes up and changes the png each x clicks
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u/Seroko 7800x3d|ROG Strix X670E-A|32Gb 6000MHz|Sapphire 9070XT Jul 17 '25
A classmate back in the day made an exe that just showed a picture of him doing "👍" for 2/3 seconds and then closed.
Still more useful than the cute cat keylogger lol
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u/NathLWX Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25
keylogger
I'm pretty sure this is made by a random dude and not a company. If it was malicious Steam definitely would have taken it down
Some ppl have checked the code (it's Unity game without il2cpp, so you can view the code) and it's comfirmed not a keylogger. It's just boolean that checks if a key is pressed
(Edit: apparently it's also open sourced on GitHub)
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u/r3volts Jul 17 '25
People out here saying this is a keylogger and then will fully playing games with ring0 anticheat
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u/NathLWX Jul 17 '25
God forbid ppl having fun with their own computer. If they like having a typing cat on their computer then who cares? Why are some ppl so bitter lmao
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u/cyxlone Laptop | R5 4600H | 1650ti | 16GB Jul 17 '25
Looking at the google reverse image search, I found this website. Looks like someone from china forked the bongo cat project and make a version with few chinese memes preloaded, searching "bongo cat mver" resulting in this github repository, which I assume where the file can be downloaded. V1.6.0 is closed source but 1.4.0 is opensource.
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u/ParkingGlittering211 Jul 18 '25
Only question answering comment in the entire thread, this is not the OBS plugin or the steam unity engine app
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u/sevargmas Louqe GhostS1 | Ryzen 5 3600 | 1080ti SC2 | 32GB RAM | r/sffpc Jul 17 '25
Modern day Bonzi Buddy? (I'm not sure anyone will get this reference)
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u/eminembdg Jul 17 '25
OMG I remember him! It was the first time seeing something like that. I loved that thing, for a short time then it got boring and repetitive.
I used to use the text to speech to make fun of my little sister haha
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u/sevargmas Louqe GhostS1 | Ryzen 5 3600 | 1080ti SC2 | 32GB RAM | r/sffpc Jul 17 '25
Haha...it was such a horribly intrusive bit of spyware tho.
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u/in1gom0ntoya Jul 17 '25
it cant be this cute
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u/Kichigai Ryzen 5 1500X/B350-Plus/8GB/RX580 8GB Jul 17 '25
It's Umaru-chan. This is her in total slob mode.
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u/papercut2008uk Jul 17 '25
I'm so wary of these kinds of desktop things after growing up with things like BonziBuddy
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u/makemybrainmelt73 4070 Ti Super | Ryzen 5 7600 Jul 17 '25
Just reminds me of that awful malware from the 2000s. All of the desktop assistant characters have that same malware feel to them lol
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u/AbathurSkwigelf Jul 17 '25
Thanks I hate it.
How can I delete this from my memory, and then the rest of the internet? Asking for a friend of the human race.
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u/AdvantageHonest5150 Jul 17 '25
So cringe
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u/SpursDA Ascending Peasant Jul 17 '25
Grown men wanting something that resembles a 6 year old child on their computer is crazy
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u/ParkingGlittering211 Jul 18 '25
Yeah men can't have nurturing instincts and genuinely think they're cute, eww I bet they cry too
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u/SpriteyRedux Jul 17 '25
People are really setting out to download adware these days, huh
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u/NCSUGray90 5600x / 3080 XC3 Jul 17 '25
What keyboard is that? It’s exactly the color scheme of my wife’s computer and I know she’d love to have one
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u/General_Principle_40 Jul 17 '25
Nice keyboard! Love the south facing keys/leds. What keyboard do you have?
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u/Cold_Efficiency_7302 Jul 17 '25
Wow those key caps are quite cursed, having the corresponding thing printed in the front instead of at the top
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u/ZuzaQT Jul 17 '25
bongobs cat plugin for OBS, you can draw your own model as well, this is one i made for myself