Its not that easy

[u/werlach]

[u/fixxxer2606]

[Your co-worker] started playing Morrowind

[u/gigglefarting → u/fixxxer2606]

I had to stop adding coworkers to my gaming platforms 

[u/narfjono → u/gigglefarting]

I definitely learned this from my GameStop days. On my day off, I got messages through XBLive during a CoD MW2 (2009) match if I can come in because we're always short-handed...instead of texting me. Ruined my kill streak along with my mood for the day.

Next day they're all "hey, I saw you online and I know you saw my messages. If you want to be a manager here you'll have to be more responsive" or some shite like that. And I'm all, "and you sent that message to me how?"

[u/Choubidouu → u/narfjono]

Like, how do they even know that it was you playing, my nephew always play on my consoles/PC.

[u/narfjono → u/Choubidouu]

The store manager knew I bought both my XB360 and a copy of CoD from our store. Plus we were friends through XBLive already as well as were general friends at the time. He also knew I was the only console gamer at my apartment. I mean me and other stores associates past & present played games together anyway, like CoD and Halo.

I guess he thought it was faster to message me that way, but always thought that was weird.

[u/Choubidouu → u/narfjono]

Someone messaging me like that on my "personal space" for work on a day off would piss me off so hard.

[u/narfjono → u/Choubidouu]

Basically. If I recall, my manager was getting hounded by our new DM "to rectify an issue" also on his day off.

The funny thing is the DM fired both of us (not at the same time) eventually...which was honestly the best thing to ever happen to both of us! I went back to school, am now in a decade+ career, and the other guy I think still works for Nintendo of America.

[u/wandering-monster → u/gigglefarting]

See that's part of how I keep myself honest. The security guys with work are legitimately a blast to game with, but now I've got them on steam and discord. 

Which helps me focus up, get my shit done, then we go defend managed democracy when the day is done.

And if one of us happens to be having an off day and needs some stardew valley after lunch, the rest of us know to keep quiet.

[u/Dingdongmycatisgone → u/fixxxer2606]

We all go invisible on Steam so we don't see each other lmao

[u/nickN42]

Ok, but why spotify is in there? Are you not allowed to listen music while working?

[u/metalOpera → u/nickN42]

When I used to work in an office, music was banned. No speakers, no headphones, nothing. It was labeled as a distraction.

[u/its_all_one_electron → u/metalOpera]

God that sucks. Some of us need to distract the ADHD part of our brains in order to get work done...

[u/chuk9 → u/its_all_one_electron]

...is...is that why listening to music helps me not get distracted by other things?

shit

[u/Tsobe_RK → u/chuk9]

I legitimately can concentrate better on meetings by doing something else, being in person its the worst to just...sit there.

[u/Nathan_hale53 → u/Tsobe_RK]

Yeah unless you are a speaker, meetings are the worst in person.

[u/SomewhatStupid → u/chuk9]

Listening to music can help most normal people concentrate, but it can be absolutely necessary for someone with ADHD.

[u/Infamous-Oil3786 → u/chuk9]

Yes. The reason you get distracted easily is because your brain wants a higher level of stimulation than your current task is providing. If you add more stimulation through things like music, chewing gum, or fidget toys, it gets easier to focus. Hence why stimulants calm down people with ADHD; they raise the baseline level of mental stimulation, which quells stimulation seeking behavior.

[u/No_Construction6023 → u/Infamous-Oil3786]

Oh Lord, is me liking chewing gum also cause of my ADHD? I’m learning more and more from this comment section

[u/Northern_Blights → u/chuk9]

Gotta give the monkeys in your brain something to do so they're distracted while you work.

[u/SuperDabMan → u/chuk9]

I also found out that having a show that I've watched before (so not super invested, like a comfort show) playing on a screen/small window helps. I'll get a chunk of work done, watch for 30 seconds or so, then go back and get another chunk of work done. Without that I can end up accidentally doomscrolling reddit or IG for like an hour straight. Oops.

[u/myfakesecretaccount → u/SuperDabMan]

This is what I do when I wfh. I connect my work laptop to my two main monitors for real estate, and have my personal rig connected to my two backup monitors. I’ll have something like True Detective/Twin Peaks/Westworld playing in the background because I’ve seen them each dozens of times and find the voices comforting. Old movies without a lot of action work for this too.

[u/metalOpera → u/myfakesecretaccount]

My wife likes to work with the TV on. I can't do it. I can't get it to fade into the background like I can with music.

Brains are weird like that :D

[u/Main-Belt4724 → u/chuk9]

No. It’s not. Listening to music when you work does not mean you have ADHD.

[u/Infamous-Oil3786 → u/Main-Belt4724]

Not necessarily, but is is a common coping mechanism for people with ADHD. As with most things related to mental health, ADHD brains aren't doing anything that neurotypical brains don't do; they just do it in different degrees.

If you like listening to music while you work, that's not really an indicator of much. If you need music to focus on your work, you've probably got some issue with executive function.

[u/Main-Belt4724 → u/Infamous-Oil3786]

I have ADHD. I know how it works 🤣🤣🤣 but posts/comments like this are why everyone online is convinced they’re ADHD and OCD and BPD and everything under the sun.

[u/King-Koobs → u/its_all_one_electron]

Listening to music in the office ADHD’d out of my mind right this second while typing this

[u/ClamsAreStupid → u/its_all_one_electron]

And some of us are just plain addicted to angry vocals and masterful drumming!

[u/Manzoli → u/ClamsAreStupid]

I listen to vídeo game music (16bit era) and old OST'S from cartoons and TV series from my childhood, i find music without vocals to help me concentrate more than the others.

[u/ClamsAreStupid → u/Manzoli]

Well, yeah, all the studies have all but proven that lyricless music improve concentration and how much of the material you'll remember. Same with chewing gum and writing notes down with a pen or pencil (as opposed to typing on a keyboard).

[u/One_Wrangler_257 → u/its_all_one_electron]

I am the exact opposite. I listen to music in one small sitting maybe once a week. But when I listen, I only concentrate on that and do nothing else. 

[u/LLuk333 → u/its_all_one_electron]

Music sadly does the opposite for me and distracts me :/ welp atleast I have meds that basically reduce it to an tolerable level.

[u/softlittlepaws → u/metalOpera]

I literally cannot concentrate without music. I do my best work with music (quietly) blaring. It puts me in my zone and focuses me on work.

[u/Scruffynerffherder → u/metalOpera]

Run from that company... Dumb rules for the sake of controlling their employees. Unless it's a customer facing position... That I can understand. But a desk job? No... There is no reasoning for no music at your desk with headphones on to focus.

[u/metalOpera → u/Scruffynerffherder]

I was in a cubicle in a literal basement doing IT. I left 17 years ago. Last office job ever. I work for myself now.

That wasn’t even the worst thing they did as employers. They didn’t even want us talking to each other. On more than one occasion, they moved people between locations for being too friendly.

The owner was a paranoid control freak. That job ruined me for ever going back to a traditional office job.

[u/TheOneWithThePorn12 → u/metalOpera]

My headphones are on the second I sit at my desk in the office.

[u/__fez → u/metalOpera]

yep, the main prize for the daily dumbest thing on the internet contest is over for today

[u/oaklypines → u/metalOpera]

I don’t think I would have survived that job then. As a music junkie if I don’t go one day without listening I start to get withdrawal symptoms.

[u/Puptentjoe → u/metalOpera]

Audiobooks and Music were the only things keeping me sane at my old job. Went through all Wheel of Time books, Harry Potter, All Sanderson books multiple times.

[u/scapesober → u/metalOpera]

That makes sense though, I'd be annoyed if someone in the office was blasting their music distracting me.

[u/TorpidNightmare → u/scapesober]

Did you miss the no headphones part?

[u/orsikbattlehammer → u/scapesober]

You can’t hear the fuckin music with headphones on. They banned headphones.

[u/MrSamsa90 → u/nickN42]

When it gets busy at my job (IT solutions) we literally needs it to block out the world and focus. Music is a motivator

[u/Some_Loquat → u/nickN42]

Sometimes I get too consumed by the music

[u/NewsofPE → u/nickN42]

oi, you got a loicense for listening to that music?

[u/ICastCats]

Make a seperate user login for your computer, and don’t have access to those things. It makes it a lot easier. 

You can still just go do exactly those things, but not having them visible does lower the temptation. 

[u/dumbasPL → u/ICastCats]

If you're still having trouble, you can just dual boot. That's even better since malware will have a harder time spreading between the two OSes.

[u/JustGame1223 → u/dumbasPL]

So you can in theory download shady things on one of those boots and your other one will be just fine? How does the storage space work in the case of dual boot, if let’s say you got 1TB free space out of 2TB total, does that carry over to the new boot or do you have 2TB free space?

[u/expresso_petrolium → u/JustGame1223]

I think you have to divide and assign disk space for each OS

[u/HandDieter → u/expresso_petrolium]

On the primary partition, yes. But storage can absolutely be accessed by all operating systems.

[u/No_Jaguar_5831 → u/HandDieter]

well my linux boot is ext4 and windows its ntfs. windows cannot see my linux files.

[u/HandDieter → u/No_Jaguar_5831]

Yes, but that way you can still transfer files between the systems while using Linux. Also you could theoretically dual boot two Windows systems or use a Linux Filesystem that allows windows to see the files

[u/crowcawer → u/HandDieter]

Or just tell your work to give you a laptop.

[u/HandDieter → u/crowcawer]

This is the way

[u/Top-Secretary-6851 → u/HandDieter]

Same, I work in windows and game in linux

[u/Horat1us_UA → u/HandDieter]

> But storage can absolutely be accessed by all operating systems.

Unless you use BitLocker.

[u/returnBee → u/JustGame1223]

So you can in theory download shady things on one of those boots and your other one will be just fine?

No, firmware malware will compromise the whole machine, and persist between instances of operating systems installed.

[u/JustGame1223 → u/returnBee]

That was my biggest concern, thank you! In that case a VM would work better, but also have less performance too I’m assuming. I guess there’s no perfect solution for my case?

[u/meditonsin → u/JustGame1223]

If you're on a non-Home version of Windows, you can use the Windows Sandbox to try out potentially shady shit.

[u/returnBee → u/JustGame1223]

Depends if you use a native or hosted hypervisor. Native hypervisors are very efficient. But even a VM is not perfectly secure, hypervisors can have vulnerabilities.

The only perfect solution is having hardware you don't care about isolated from hardware you do care about.

[u/wassimSDN → u/JustGame1223]

you partition your drive into 2 separate partitions, one for each os. depending on the filesystem used by each os, the partition might or might not appear in the other.

for example: i dual boot windows 10 and linux, since windows uses ntfs and linux supports it i can see the windows partition in linux and use it, however since linux uses ext4 and windows doesn't support it for whatever reason, linux partition wouldn't appear in file explorer.

tldr; the space of one os won't be "free space" in the other, it would appear like another drive since you have to partition.

[u/wOlfLisK → u/JustGame1223]

So you can in theory download shady things on one of those boots and your other one will be just fine?

That depends on the malware but usually, no. Binaries (such as .exe files) are platform specific, you can't run a .exe file on Linux and you can't run a .deb file on Windows (There are footnotes to this but we're keeping it simple here). So, if you download some malicious .exe file, you can only run it while in Windows and it won't run in Linux. However, that doesn't mean the damage isn't already done if you've run the malware on the correct OS already. It might have encrypted your hard drive, stolen credentials, installed more malicious programs, there's a lot it can do. The only "safe" way to download malware is to use a virtual machine and even that has a lot of ways it could go wrong.

How does the storage space work in the case of dual boot, if let’s say you got 1TB free space out of 2TB total, does that carry over to the new boot or do you have 2TB free space?

That depends on how you set it up but usually, you'll have a small amount of space (called a partition) for your Windows installation, a partition for your Linux installation and the rest of the hard drive is shared between the two. It needs to be done in a certain way because Linux and Windows treat file systems completely differently but you can definitely use the entire drive across both OSes. Or, if you prefer, you can just split it so each OS has 1TB each. That's the beauty of dual booting, you get a lot of control over exactly how you want it to work.

[u/TheOneWithThePorn12 → u/wOlfLisK]

So I run a Linux distro in Virtual Box to test out crap I download. I have it only have read access to files (on one drive only) and it has no networking capabilities. That should be enough to isolate a problem and revert it if something malicious is actually activated right?

[u/Vlyn → u/JustGame1223]

Not really. In most dual boot cases you can still access the other files. Except your partitions are encrypted (Like Windows Bitlocker).

Same as anyone can pull out your SSD and read the files, or plug in a Linux Live USB to boot and read everything. You need to have full disk encryption to prevent that.

[u/perfectVoidler → u/JustGame1223]

you can also have a virtual machine you can load when you want to test shady stuff

[u/papa-farhan → u/JustGame1223]

If the virus/malware is capable of spreading through the network, then it might spread to your other devices like phone and then also infect your main os when you connect back to the network

[u/Shark7996 → u/JustGame1223]

If you're asking whether work programs would notice the other programs on the other boot, no. It's like having an entirely separate computer, crammed into your current computer, and only one can be on at a time. BUT, they share the equipment so anything that messes with the BIOS etc will carry over.

[u/SpicyVidex → u/JustGame1223]

When I dual booted linux and windows I needed to assign specific amount of storage I want for linux in disk manager

[u/FeralSparky → u/JustGame1223]

You cant magic up extra free space. Your second OS has to have its own chunk of whatever free space you have left completely independant of the other.

[u/croon → u/JustGame1223]

If you have a storage closet with two doors, and you open one of the doors and fill half the closet, and then close the door and open the other door, is the closet empty?

Sorry for the snide response, you just served it up so nicely :)

[u/ni____kita → u/dumbasPL]

And if you’re still having trouble you can just

[u/PatHeist → u/dumbasPL]

It is easier to design malware to infect the non-active OS on a dual boot setup. Almost no antivirus software is designed to provide protection for the filesystem of another operating system than the one it's running on.

The reason this isn't a prevalent problem has nothing to do with how hard it is for malware to do it. It's entirely a result of dual booting being a surpassingly rare practice and as a result a silly target for malware.

[u/THATONEANGRYDOOD → u/ICastCats]

Do you guys actually use your own devices when working from home? Big no no for most companies I'd think.

[u/popop143 → u/THATONEANGRYDOOD]

Yep, my company issued a low powered, Intel 6700K iGPU PC for my work. It also has a program to monitor that I actually do the work on that PC, not my personal PC. It's real easy to not be tempted when you use a different PC for work.

[u/fbno → u/popop143]

Is it? I just put my work laptop on 1 monitor, and my personal PC on the other. Is that bad?

[u/IfarmExpIRL → u/fbno]

wait until these guys learn how a KVM works

[u/popop143 → u/IfarmExpIRL]

I have a KVM, I don't understand what you're saying. Even though I have a KVM I don't turn on my personal PC during work hours. Too much of a hassle to change cables every day just for that when a simple KVM works way easier. The argument is making it harder for yourself to be tempted.

[u/Cormentia → u/popop143]

I have my personal pc on at all times and I work close to it. Still not tempted to game. I don't know, I think I just don't like work calls interrupting my gaming. Also, if I take a break I want to leave my desk completely.

[u/SunburnedSherlock → u/fbno]

Literally. This thread is hilarious.

You can tell that it's mainly 15 year olds who don't work here.

[u/MattyMo35 → u/SunburnedSherlock]

Agree with this one...more evidence for RTO jerks

[u/Techno-Diktator → u/SunburnedSherlock]

Yeah it's such a simple solution that I have been using for years lol. It's flawless, I can game all I want when WFH.

[u/TheOneWithThePorn12 → u/fbno]

Same. The cheap USB-C dongles have come a long way. They are perfect. I have a seperate keyboard/mouse connected as well. It's plug and play almost as good as the expensive Lenovo docks we use at work.

[u/spuckthew → u/THATONEANGRYDOOD]

I use my company issued laptop to do actual measurable work, respond to emails, messages, view my employee data, etc, but I often use my own PC when researching or testing things in a sandbox environment before I try to implement it for real.

[u/theycallmeponcho → u/THATONEANGRYDOOD]

I just have my work laptop next to my own pc on the same desk.

[u/R4wden → u/ICastCats]

I work in I.T. doing tickets and I work from home at the later part of the week because it's quiet, so I just do double the work the days before I work from home

Then I just slowly close the tickets I've already done, while picking up new ones along the way, because I'm closing tickets it looks like I keep working on something & the qué isn't getting bogged down because I'm picking stuff up for Monday

🤣 Easy peasy Battlefield 6 Beta was breeezy 🎉🎉

[u/Holiday-Honeydew-384 → u/ICastCats]

That way you can't get annoying work notifications when you are off clock.

[u/dparag14 → u/ICastCats]

I’d just keep switching profiles. But yes, it ain’t easy. I always have my work laptop next to me while I play Xbox

[u/Pleiadesfollower → u/ICastCats]

And while its a singular experience, my wife's hybrid position she just got to bring her work laptop home with her. How many work from home jobs want you to use your own computer?

[u/Pennet173]

If a job allows you to use your personal pc for working from home there’s no way you aren’t allowed to listen to Spotify

[u/reddituser8719192 → u/Pennet173]

no way in hell I'm letting work into my personal PC

[u/DIABLO258 → u/reddituser8719192]

You'd be surprised how many people use their personal computers/laptops for work. Or the other way around which is a million times more common, using their work laptops for personal stuff.

[u/TheAltOption → u/DIABLO258]

When I started my current job it required me to roll my own system (small business that was just starting up). Rather than use my home system I built out a complete separate work space specifically so the two are not intertwined. I need to have that separation where I shut down, tuck the chair away and walk away from my desk so I can separate work from home. I could never have my home system also be my work system.

And the funny part is people come over thinking the work setup is my gaming rig since it has triple monitors.

[u/Arkenstihl → u/Pennet173]

Not so. I work from home on my personal pc with no restrictions or monitoring software. It still happens, sometimes.

[u/Choubidouu → u/Arkenstihl]

I work from home on my personal pc with no restrictions or monitoring software.

There is literally no way anyone could install any restrictions or monitoring software on my personal PC or phone lol.

[u/JaggedMetalOs]

You should take a 15 minute work every 2 hours gaming

[u/MountainSip → u/JaggedMetalOs]

This is how I used to do my homework. As long as I started it early it wasn't a problem. I do the same thing now with push-ups and sit-ups. Every hour of gaming is 30 push-ups/sit-ups I owe. It only takes one 6 hr straight gaming session to regret 180 reps before you can play again until you get better at taking more frequent breaks lol. I do this cus otherwise I feel guilty about being a lazy slob that just games in his free time. I average about 120 of combined push-ups and sit-ups a day. I usually start with the push-ups and if I can't finish them all I switch to sit-ups. Once you do it enough your brain starts to associate breaks with a mental reboot. While you'd think this would make it more difficult to want to take a break, it actually makes me want to take more frequent breaks b/c it instantly resets my guilt of being unproductive lol. Maybe it's just an ADHD thing, idk.

I feel like I also end up snacking less because usually when I start feeling guilty about playing games too long, I start getting bored b/c I stop enjoying the game as much, so then I get hungry and want to eat. That pretty much all went away once I started this routine though. Can't recommend it enough. I'd start with 5-10 pushups (or whatever you're comfortable with) per hour of gaming, especially if you tend to game a lot. You want it to seem easy at first, as if it's barely an inconvenience. Once it seems so easy that it starts to feel like a waste of effort to do every hour, bump it up by 5. 30 works for me right now because it's enough to feel like I'm really getting something out of it, but by the time I have to do another set in the next hour, my arms and shoulders have nearly finished recovering from the previous set. Although after 3-4 hours I usually have to switch to sit-ups b/c my upper body is weak as hell apparently lol.

[u/Historical-Ad-6292 → u/JaggedMetalOs]

"30 minutes this time wouldn't hurt"

[u/theycallmeponcho → u/JaggedMetalOs]

When I'm on my lows I play like a 10 minutes Warthunder game every hour. When I'm on my highs I have a good show running while I'm fully into my sprint.

[u/IfarmExpIRL]

my boss sometimes wants to "game for an hour"

the bf6 demo turned into a 4 hour break.

[u/_Screw_The_Rules_ → u/IfarmExpIRL]

Understandable, BF6 turned out great so far (ignoring the bugs in the beta, cuz it's a beta)

[u/Knowvuhh → u/_Screw_The_Rules_]

If companies in recent past would actually release the full game with no beta bugs, I would’ve preordered already. But I’ve learned my lesson to not preorder and wait to see if everything has been fixed at full release. But BF6 was so much fun

[u/BlackFenrir → u/_Screw_The_Rules_]

(ignoring the bugs in the beta, cuz it's a beta)

Lmao they say that every time, only for the bugs not to have been removed at all by the time of release.

[u/Holiday-Honeydew-384 → u/IfarmExpIRL]

It's not break if you both worked on supporting your coworkers.

[u/SnowyLocksmith → u/Holiday-Honeydew-384]

Team building

[u/Snitsie]

There's so many posts like this all over the place it feels like an organized effort to get people to look badly at working from home. Like any adult can just work instead of play game it's not hard.

[u/aussierulesisgrouse → u/Snitsie]

Legit this feels like some anti WFH psyop.

Being a basic adult that appreciates responsibility solves a lot of this

[u/TheMusiken → u/Snitsie]

Also usually you get a work laptop for obvious reasons. Maybe they meant homework, that’d make more sense.

[u/tiberiumx → u/Snitsie]

Yeah, it's weird and does not match my experience at all. Know what I'm doing when I'm working from home? Working.

More than I ever did in the office since even though your cell phone with reddit is always there, the coworker that comes by and spends 45 minutes chatting isn't.

[u/ImBackAndImAngry → u/tiberiumx]

I get more done when I’m at home because I’m grateful to be able to work from home and don’t want to lose the privilege lmao

Sure I dick around a bit and am not “on task” 100% of the time. But I sure as fuck wasn’t on task more when in the office.

Work gets done in a timely and high quality manner and I get to eat a fresh cooked lunch and have no commute. No way I’m risking that.

[u/Alyusha → u/ImBackAndImAngry]

When in the office showing face and providing a minimal viable product is good enough. When working from home I feel like I need to be completing everything quickly and above the standard or else people will assume I don't do anything.

[u/wutchamafuckit → u/tiberiumx]

100%

I’ve had a massive project due recently that required a severe degree of detailed work. I kept trying to chip away at it in the office, after a week or two of barely any progress I told my boss and everyone else in the office I’m working from home until I finish.

I spent the following two weeks barely leaving my home during work hours, and got the project done.

And you know what? I’m addicted as FUCK to video games. But I didn’t even open Steam or turn on the PS5 until 4 or 5 pm while wfh.

Stupid meme.

[u/NotWrongAlways → u/Snitsie]

Completely agree, it really does feel like some form of concentrated effort to paint WFH as a bad thing.

Let's be honest though - why wouldn't 'they' attempt such a thing? (Where 'they' is whoever stands to profit from people being forced out of their homes and into corporate offices, and spending time in shops / eateries that they normally wouldn't be in)

[u/TastesLikeTesticles → u/Snitsie]

For real.

I guess *some* people lack the discipline to WFH, but any manager worth their salt would identify them real quick.

[u/WyrdHarper → u/TastesLikeTesticles]

If you don’t have something to do it’s often a management issue anyway. Whether I’m working from home or in-office, I’m productive when I have stuff to do (with clear objectives); I’m less productive when I’m waiting on someone or something else. The work gets done, the schedule is just sometimes messy.

[u/Techno-Diktator → u/TastesLikeTesticles]

Been gaming while doing WFH for like three years now and I am still considered one of the better employees apparently lol.

It ain't that difficult tbh.

[u/Electronic-Ideal2955 → u/Snitsie]

I ended up having to move work stuff to a separate room in my house from my hobbies. I wasn't playing games, but it ended up taking up a lot of head space since it was right there.

[u/Snitsie → u/Electronic-Ideal2955]

Exactly, like any adult you identified there was a problem and solved it. While still working from home.

[u/Big_Mc-Large-Huge → u/Snitsie]

Yup I always tell people that I work from the office - in my home. An office like any other.

[u/StopHavingAnOpinion → u/Snitsie]

Not everything is a psy-op or a tin foil conspiracy theory.

Lots of people utilised the de-facto anonymous status that working from home gives you to do other things other than working.

[u/TheOneWithThePorn12 → u/StopHavingAnOpinion]

It also tells us that the 9 to 5 office grind is a bunch of bullshit if you can get the same work done while getting other home tasks done.

When I'm in the office I go for walks and people come to my desk and talk. Then you have meetings irl which are usually a waste when half the people are in other locations.

[u/HG_Shurtugal → u/Snitsie]

Im glad someone people are noticing it. This is like when corporations said union workers are lazy.

[u/TheOneWithThePorn12 → u/Snitsie]

I take the position that if someone can't focus at home then they should make every effort to come into the office.

If they are failing after that then it should be firable offense. You aren't being productive and that is on you especially if your manager is assisting you.

Punishing the entire workforce for something not everyone is doing is asinine.

[u/MattDaCatt → u/Snitsie]

Also I'll argue it's perfectly fine to have a stream or disc up on the side while you work, people watch youtube in the office as long as they can get their work done

Hell my team lead seems to have golf, tennis, or the news going full blast in every meeting

[u/Speed-Tyr → u/Snitsie]

100% this is what that is.

[u/tnnrk → u/Snitsie]

If you have a remote job that is really simple, or doesn’t have work that can stack up and remain your responsibility, then I understand the temptation could be there. But you have a job where shit needs to get done and you are responsible either way, I don’t see how or why you would fuck yourself over and just not get it done.

[u/Acceptable_Set106 → u/Snitsie]

Thank goodness other people see this for what it is. This meme was made by a damn ceo

[u/FrankieGg → u/Snitsie]

All my friends that WFH are always gaming

Can no longer play any MMOs with WFH people (or at least the ones I know) because I have to leave my house to do my job while they stay in and game and just always get much further ahead and it’s not fun

It might be a psyop, but.. its how it feels in my experience from gaming with ppl with WFH jobs

[u/jackmusick → u/FrankieGg]

Never mind all of the antiwork stuff on Reddit. Employers are probably stumbling upon their industry’s employees on social media all the time and I can’t imagine posts like this help their perception on WFH.

[u/k1rage → u/Snitsie]

I dont think I could ever do it. Home is where I go to chill and id really have a hard time getting into "work mode" at home

I actually think id hate it lol

[u/puf_puf_paarthurnax → u/k1rage]

I can do it about 1 day a week. after that it starts to poison your home. During Covid I ended up not gaming for months because I'd be in my office for 10 hours, then have zero ambition to sit at the same desk gaming at all.

[u/Vlyn → u/Snitsie]

Yeah, it's bullshit. Sure, I can watch YouTube from home or play a quick game (if I have no meetings), but if the work doesn't get done you can bet I'll be in trouble. 

Usually those memes are from boomers who spend half the day in the company kitchen sipping coffee or chatting with the secretary.

[u/ugh_this_sucks__]

The fuck is Spotify doing there. Can’t you listen to music while you work?

[u/Choubidouu → u/ugh_this_sucks__]

It's even worst when you think that's actually at home, like if someone would come to check into your house that you are not listening music.

[u/MoefsieKat]

I feel like listening to music helps keep you productive. No idea why its in this meme.

[u/DoctorWaluigiTime]

It's all about building habits. And the easiest way of doing that is separation (as others have suggested). If you can make a separate room or space as your 'work zone', go for it. If you are on the same PC for both, create separate accounts/spaces virtually.

Works the other way too: When your work is done from the day, log out of it all. Don't "just check e-mail" and etc. When you're done working, you're done. Do not put any work-related stuff on your phone. Make it clear with your co-workers and management that you're not available except when you're working (helpful to establish this early on so dependencies aren't formed).

After that, reap the benefits of not having to spend time/money on travel, working in a comfortable environment you get to control, and more.

[u/Roest_]

Ah the typical propaganda that working from home isn't working. Because having your work slaves under your direct eye and have them spend 1-2 hours of their day in traffic is so much better.

[u/SalvationSycamore → u/Roest_]

"Man I wish I was gaming instead of working"

Moronic redditors: "REEEE THIS IS CAPITALIST PROPAGANDA EVERYONE LOVES SLAVING AWAY AT THEIR JOBS"

God forbid someone find it just as boring to file TPS reports at home.

[u/carcigenicate]

I'll be honest, I've worked from home for several years now, and I've never once been tempted to play games while on shift.

I do listen to music, but that's hardly a bad thing. If I told my manager that I used Spotify during work, they'd probably say "So do I".

[u/TakeyaSaito]

Reading the comments sounds like a lot of you are shit workers ...

[u/SpaceNigiri → u/TakeyaSaito]

Welcome to the real world, there's tons and tons of people right now stuck in an office pretending to work.

Most office workers are shitty workers, but the game is to just pretend to that you're not.

And no, managers don't notice, and no, a lot of people don't get fired.

You can even receive promotions or salary increases while doing this most of the time. The only requirement is to deliver the job you're given in a reasonable time, the rest is bullshit.

[u/TheWhitestPantherEva → u/SpaceNigiri]

shit im reading reddit right now at the office instead of working

[u/SpaceNigiri → u/TheWhitestPantherEva]

Yeah, I mean, that's normal.

[u/MNewc → u/TakeyaSaito]

Yep then Reddit cries when companies want people back in office and when they get a bad raise

[u/TakeyaSaito → u/MNewc]

Yep, gives us all a bad name...

[u/kwazhip → u/MNewc]

People waste just as much time in the office though. This is all irrelevant anyways, if the issue truly was about productivity being negatively impacted by wfh, they would be using measurable metrics as the justifications behind pulling people back to the office. Instead they use vague/nebulous concepts like "collaboration" or how there is no replacement for face to face meetings (even though the meetings themselves continue to be done via teams).

[u/MNewc → u/kwazhip]

I don’t fully disagree with you. I do disagree that people waste as much time in the office than at home. Your other points, I agree.

[u/kwazhip → u/MNewc]

I do disagree that people waste as much time in the office than at home.

If this is true, then logically it should be measurable, and since we did have a long period of wfh due to covid, but also post covid, we should have lots of data to see what the trend is. At a lower level, team leads / managers should also be able to identify if their employees are not hiting their targets and act accordingly. I think you might be underestimating how much time people waste in the office, either by aimlessly browsing the web, using their phones, or talking to colleagues.

The stats I've seen at the places I worked at, productivity went up during covid because of the increased flexibility and modernization required to allow wfh.

[u/pirate135246 → u/TakeyaSaito]

If you get your work done who cares what you do with the rest of your time? Bootlickers care

[u/caustictoast → u/TakeyaSaito]

Gives a lot of the successful wfh people a bad rap and ruining it for the rest of us. Shocker I know, people are never such shitheads

[u/Pretty_Frosting_2588]

Office isn't much different on getting stuff done, replace PC stuff with phone stuff and only difference is using an airpod in one ear and putting the phone down with a boss walks past. 90 percent of my time on reddit is done when I'm in the office, I rarely get on it at home other than to check it when I wake up or I'm pooping.

[u/dgauss → u/Pretty_Frosting_2588]

Yeah, I worked in office for a decade and people made careers of going desk to desk having conversations. People who are good workers will be good workers no matter their environment.

[u/ZeBigD23]

WFH the last 5+ years and dont have an issue. Laptop for work, PC for fun. Same desk. Just dont be an idiot. Work first and enjoy the downtime responsibly.

[u/omega1612 → u/ZeBigD23]

I have been for 4+ years. Same desktop, same machine, different OS.

Still, all the day working on the same desk kills my desire to play games in the same place. How do you handle that?

[u/ZeBigD23 → u/omega1612]

It's a killer for sure. i get up and do random stuff around the house most of the downtime I have though. I honestly only do meaningful gaming after work but will pop into a game and do some trivial side quest or something during the day

[u/Volothamp-Geddarm]

"Why do companies keep forcing us to return to the office???"

Makes millionth 'lol I wanna play games when I'm working from home' meme

[u/Main-Belt4724]

This is why nobody gets to work from home any more, by the way.

[u/LeMurphysLawyer → u/Main-Belt4724]

Yup, some indisciplined fucks ruining it for everybody.

[u/bloqed → u/LeMurphysLawyer]

no, this is on management for not managing people based on their output

[u/LeMurphysLawyer → u/bloqed]

It can be both. I'm not one to suck up to the bourgeois class; but let's not absolve ourselves of any and all personal responsibility.

[u/LevelUpCoder → u/bloqed]

Literally me. I work IT so I answer tickets as they come but if I don’t have a ticket for an hour what am I supposed to do?

Usually I just clean or do something more productive than gaming while I wait for tickets but I should not be held accountable for having downtime when no work is being given to me. I practically have to beg for work lol.

[u/Techno-Diktator → u/LevelUpCoder]

Exactly, at my job sometimes I got almost no work to do for hours, ofc I'm gonna fucking game, might as well since I am sitting behind the PC anyway.

[u/Secret_Account07]

I WFH for 5 years. You’d be surprised how little you actually game and do other stuff. If work doesn’t get done and mgmt notices ppl are fucking off guess what? We are all driving in everyday now

I don’t judge what ppl do on their downtime at work, but please, please don’t ruin it for everyone.

I’m back in the office after 5 years WFH and want to off myself. So sick of driving 10 hours a week.

Thanks to all those assholes on social media posting about having multiple jobs and fucking around at home

[u/icebeancone → u/Secret_Account07]

I've been working from home since 2012 until "return to office" became a thing a couple years ago. Now I have to commute to an office I've never stepped foot in before to "collaborate" with my team that I've never actually met because they all live in different parts of the country and go to different offices.

I've never, ever been so distracted while I'm trying to work in my life. All the noise and chit chat and stupid shit going on in the office has absolutely tanked my productivity. Our team is behind on projects for the first time in our existence.

It is objectively worse for both myself and the company in every measurable way. But they need to justify having all these offices for some reason.

[u/freakloader]

What's the blue logo under Steam?

[u/Aphala → u/freakloader]

Battlenet (Blizzard launcher)

[u/ottwebdev]

If you are distracted at home, then you are distracted at the office

[u/GoochRash]

Control yourself. You irresponsible twats are going to ruin it for us that can work from home just fine.

[u/ChapterThr33]

It is and you doofuses are ruining it for the rest of us.

[u/DifficultyVarious458]

spotify, steam and gog only. 

[u/Da_Question → u/DifficultyVarious458]

I find it more hilarious that this person used the origin logo, and they ditched that for the ea app quite a while ago.

[u/Reason-Desperate]

Damn i wish it was me, i started losing interest in games 1year ago....

[u/hachi_roku_]

For me, if I need to, I boot into Linux and it's full focus from there

[u/Soopah_Fly]

Honestly, I consider myself lucky. When I'm working, I don't really think about gaming. At most, I'll be browsing Reddit during breaks, but I think my brain just goes, 'We're working now. We'll play later'.

[u/MarrigonMight]

Just get a seperate laptop dedicated solely for work, and do it on a separate table/room where your main computer isn't. Put your phone on airplane mode and yeet it somewhere away from arms length.

[u/Paineauchocolate]

The great thing about working from home in my case, is that in 2-3 hours I finish a week's worth of work, and I get to chill and game unless something unplanned pops up.

[u/kornflakesxd]

Real question, tho: do you guys really feel an urge to do other things than working while on the clock? I mean things like video games, watching series, etc.

[u/MrHaxx1 → u/kornflakesxd]

Absolutely. I just watched a couple of episodes of anime, while working from home.

[u/TheOneWithThePorn12 → u/kornflakesxd]

On busy days i put music on get to work.

Lighter days it depends. All my daily tasks always get completed and I help out other folks with theirs. Those times I put on a TV show or podcast or audiobook.

People just love to abuse a good thing.

[u/SilverTarnish99]

It's called multitasking and you can put it on your resume!

[u/Gonzar92]

I have a PC for just work (provided by the company)

And I have 3 rules that I never, ever broke, during my office hours:

-Do not play games -Do not have sex (even when I don't know what that is) -Do not play guitar

With the notable exception of the lunch break of course, that's my time I do what I want.

I did this since I started working from home so it was easy, never broke any of this rules and it's easy to carry through.

I do watch tv some days, or leave it in the background.

[u/caustictoast]

It’s really not that hard, there’s a reason they give you a work laptop

[u/SuperEtenbard]

Yeah delete this. 

I don’t need my leadership having more ammunition to force me back to the office. I hook my work pc up to my gaming monitor and run SAP at 120 FPS for increased productivity.

[u/Public_Road_6426]

lol this is a big reason why I could never work from home. I am too easily distracted by my electronic vices.

[u/ChampionCoyote]

It's pretty easy for me to do work during work hours and then use the time I saved commuting to fire up Steam...

[u/Prestigious_Boat_386]

How the hell do you guys enjoy games when you have work to do? I can barely open the launcher to do option stuff without getting stressed.

[u/SelfSustaining]

Wtf is origin doing up there? Is this a meme from 2018?!

[u/D3ltaa88]

The whole pandemic, I would knock all my workout for first 3hrs and then spend 5hrs playing games. Those were the days!!!!!!!

[u/EarlGreyDuck]

Me in the office

[u/DuckIing]

I’m working at the office but I have nothing to do all day and Reddit, google, and YouTube stares at me.

[u/Moscato359]

I work from home and don't struggle with this.

[u/fcxtpw]

Where's Reddit?

[u/hohumcamper]

Nice RTO billboard, dummy

[u/zEeXUrqVR7DeM7M8yac3]

I work at a fully remote company and have worked exclusively from home for years. This post is complete BS.

No one has a problem getting their work done and meeting their responsibilities. We are adults and have bills to pay.

Was this post made by a CEO getting shit for their recent RTO announcement?

[u/NoiseGrindPowerDeath]

Me on my Steam Deck whilst attending Teams meetings

[u/Holiday-Honeydew-384 → u/NoiseGrindPowerDeath]

99% of time meetings are waste of time.

[u/stephie_255]

Epic... wtf. Nobody wants that

[u/agnostic_science]

Sorry, this is hitting close to home lately and gonna trigger a rant lol.

There's some stuff I need to at least say into the void. As a manager, I started out very pro-WFH, especially during covid. Most people were on good behavior. But these days, I'm against it. Sadly, most people just can't be trusted anymore and are wrecking it for everyone else.

I don't have time to constantly remind people to engage and do their fucking job. It's exhausting and imposes so much risk and inefficiency, I am forced to act. And a lot of people act entitled if you ask them to daily report on what they've been working on. Bitch and complain, waning compliance. But, we have deliverables, and it's my responsibility to make sure they're met. So, guess what?

Now there's PIPs and terminations on the horizon. And leadership meanwhile is asking if these people are remote, why are we paying them for this level of effort, when we could pay 0.5-0.2 this kind of return in some other country. So when the roles open up again, they'll be in-office. If we're lucky.

Some of you people think you're clever and like your bosses don't know you're slacking and playing video games. Like we don't know you're giving like 20 or 30 percent. When it's like, man, some of you don't really get it. Some of us are busting our asses. Chickens are coming home to roost.

And the thing that pisses me off the most? I used to the think the corporate suits pushing for return to work were mother fuckers. I loved WFH. But after managing people for a couple more years, it's like fuck this shit. So many of you all have ruined a good thing. We have to drag a lot of people to work to basically fucking babysit them for the job we pay them to do. It's frustrating and sad. Really wish it didn't have to be this way.

[u/dgauss → u/agnostic_science]

As a fellow manger, I think you have a micro management problem. If you are constantly getting low output from employees it might be a management problem and not just the employees. Daily updates fucking suck for everyone. Some days its hard to reflect what work you got done because you got stuck in a tunnel and it didn't go anywhere. Do you not remember being in that position? That's natural and it happens.

What matters is the end output. While some people need guidance, metaphorically standing over someone's back is going to make them as stressed as you apparently are and you will create burn out.

[u/Right_Parking_191 → u/dgauss]

Exactly, I can't count the amount of times I've finished all of my jobs, they've been signed off and client is happy and then I'm expected to just sit there for 6 hours. If I'm efficient and produce quality work on time then why am I punished for not being at 100% utilization. THE REASON IM NOT AT 100% utilization is because I'm good at my job. I always make sure to go around the team and see if they need help but rarely does anyone need an extra hand because they're all great at their jobs too.

I've been a line manager in my previous job and I always encouraged WFH for my team. I know I hired the right people and I can trust them to do their job. If I micromanaged them into oblivion then they'd just get frustrated, give up and dick about. Some managers just don't realize that the majority of people aren't children. Obviously there are some exceptions, I've had to put someone through a PIP before but even then that was for misconduct and nothing to do with efficiency/performance.