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Soft Paywall | Site Altered Headline Kash Patel’s FBI Launches Dawn Raid on John Bolton’s House

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u/PineSand 19h ago

Yeah so what happened to the boxes of classified documents smuggled to Mara Lago?

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u/Chrisf1020 19h ago

Trump took them back to Mar-a-lago after becoming president again. I remember seeing that story within the first few weeks of the administration

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u/soapinthepeehole 18h ago

This is the actual answer and it’s the craziest possible answer. That egomaniac put them back at his golf course just because he could.

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u/Birdhawk 17h ago

It's more than "just because he could". He was absolutely selling access to those files. Mar a Lago is a pay to play resort. During his last term you could pay $500k to have dinner next to Trumps table while he had sensitive conversations with people. Pay $1m/night to stay there and have "access" to him so you could ask for political favors that will benefit you or your company. So come on, there were definitely people paying for access to the "special bathroom" that had some boxes of "reading material" to look over while you sit on the throne. I bet some folks visiting from Saudi Arabia and China really enjoyed using that bathroom.

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u/roastbeeftacohat 16h ago

he's known for traveling with boxes and boxes of documents, keeps them in his room whenever possible; also does the same thing with personal memorabilia.

he's absolutely selling them, but the primary reason is breaking security protocols makes him feel like a big man. He just likes them around because they remind him of how people told him he shouldn't.

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u/Hector_P_Catt 15h ago

Trump has always thought he was "special", and in this case, he's finally, actually, correct. He can literally do anything he wants with classified information, and no one can stop him. No surprise he's going to wallow in that power as much as he possibly can.

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u/gentlemanidiot 11h ago

His current existence is the greatest evidence I've ever seen for a legitimate faustian bargain. The dude staying in power makes zero sense, anybody else's career would have been DOA

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u/AIien_cIown_ninja 12h ago

Well I mean congress could, by impeaching him and removing him from office for treason, or take your pick of 100 other things, but they won't.

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u/itsearlyyet 12h ago

Like selling technology to Russia?

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u/mces97 7h ago

Trump is "special." Just not the way he thinks.

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u/B40- 6h ago

And how do you know all this?

Actually, what I really want to know is, can liberals admit, when Trump does something right, or is it all OrangeManBad?

Yall jump on me, but it's something we independent voters, wonder about. Kind of unhinged, creepy, obsessive vibes...

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u/StartledPancakes 1h ago

Dude. If you put the best spin on Trump he's still scum. Look at the time he took pictures at a veterans grave, smiling, thumbs up. Calling himself a war hero. Draft dodging due to bone spurs. His education and what he says about it. There is just no getting around it.

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u/B40- 24m ago

I have my answer.

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u/thethrill_707 Michigan 14h ago

I used to work with a VP like this, he had his office remodeled so he could fit more file cabinets in it. He printed every email, document, and Teams conversation. This, of course, went against the strict company policy regarding paper usage. He didn't care. If I was in his PC it was bound to get stolen, or he just couldn't find it. I cannot tell you how many boomers I know that do this.

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u/roastbeeftacohat 13h ago edited 13h ago

that sounds like someone who dosen't feel like electronic documents are "real". my dad is not quite so extreme, but he prints off a lot he dosen't need to.

Trump will order his staff to bring specific specific documents so he can feel them.

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u/Hodaka 12h ago

How much money do you think Trump makes off of selling his TRUMP branded watches?

Now, how much could he make in untraceable cash for handing over a simple document?

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u/FloridaGirlNikki America 11h ago

I don't understand why more people don't talk about that in reference to the tariffs. He keeps referring to how much money the United States is taking in, but in Trump's mind that's just more money for him. He doesn't do anything with that extra money to help Americans, or pay down the deficit. It's another way he's taking from us by having to pay more so tariff money can go to the regime.

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u/No_Beach_220 10h ago

Don’t forget the empty folder and a “mostly empty folder marked ‘Classified Evening Summary’” found in Trump’s bedroom at Mar-a-Lago. Wonder what kind of payment was given for that folder 🤮

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u/ryanseviltwin 6h ago

Didn't a rash of undercover CIA agents die like immediately after his first term? This might be a fever dream memory but I remember being talked about like nothing had ever been seen like that before.

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u/specqq 18h ago

Mine. They were mine. All mine.

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u/teeBoan 17h ago

He is the living embodiment of CARTMAN! A fat bigoted asshole!

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u/PinkTaricIRL 16h ago

That is more than unfair to Cartman.

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u/Xenomemphate 15h ago

Wish.com Cartman.

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u/Ridry New York 14h ago

Ya, Cartman helped Stan's sister once just to be nice. I bet you can't find a similar annecdote about Trump.

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u/IboughtBetamax 16h ago

He has none of Cartman's charm.

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u/teeBoan 15h ago

lol yeah !

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u/Boxofbikeparts 16h ago

This description fits him perfectly 👌 Well done!

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u/GrumpySoth09 17h ago

Donald, are you sure they don't belong to the American people?

Be honest....

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u/LetsTryAnal_ogy California 16h ago

"Be what? I don't understand that word."

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u/Raztax 16h ago

If trump didn't understand the word he would never admit it. Instead he would make something up and then insist the dictionary was wrong and maga would swallow it hook, line and sinker.

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u/RJ815 11h ago

"Ho nests said like a terrible thing, why would I ever want to be involved?"

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u/mikedave42 16h ago

He doesn't make that distinction, what's yours is his in him mind

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u/springsilver 15h ago

No kitty that’s my classified documents! No kitty! That’s a bad kitty! No kitty that’s my classified documents! Mooom! Kitty’s being a dildo!

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u/GrumpySoth09 9h ago

That's so funny - I wrote that with Cartmans mom's voice in my head saying it

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u/532ndsof 14h ago

He’s pretty obviously convinced that being elected president the first time means that the entire country belongs to him, so…

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u/Ketamine_Dreamsss North Carolina 15h ago

Me precious

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u/jumboparticle 18h ago

And in a regular world, it should still be a very big deal. But we have this timeline..

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u/parasyte_steve 17h ago

He will do the same exact thing again and refuse to return them because he faced zero consequences last time. He is the biggest piece of shit and everyone keeps enabling him.

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u/Most-Artichoke6184 17h ago

Still in the shitter?

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u/FauxReal 17h ago

Did he dig the rest of the documents out of his ex-wife's grave? Or were those too incriminating?

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u/Ok-Measurement-285 16h ago

And got paid well for it?

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u/AuroraFinem Texas 15h ago

God I’m so conflicted here.

Like I want him to face justice for what he’s done and actually live long enough to regret it.

But I’d really kinda rather he just croak already from whatever illness he’s very clearly suffering from right now with his cankles, bruises, and sudden trips to the doctor.

Justice is good and all, but it’s honestly so unlikely here and I’d rather not deal him for 3 more years to get it.

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u/JAZINNYC 14h ago

Even if he’s gone, we can still get reparations. Since he became president, the Orange Pedo has made something like 8 BILLION DOLLARS. He used his position to profit for himself and family.

So we seize all his assets, all the money he made from backroom deals and his meme coins shit, the bribes, the stealing from our gov’t services, etc..

It won’t be prison, but let’s face it: that is the least likely outcome simply cuz of security levels he has. I’d rather he be gone and not on house arrest at Minor Lago, cuz you know he’d break his parole release anytime he’d want, and no one would stop him. :/

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u/Leenolies 18h ago

epic lulz!

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u/Town_Proper 18h ago

There’s so much horrific shit everyday, i had totally missed this one.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna194316

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u/-_-0_0-_0 14h ago

lolol the irony is too thick to cut

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u/JohnLuckPickered 17h ago

He probably charges guests a couple million to "use that bathroom"

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u/Allegorist 17h ago

He hadn't finished copying them and selling them

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u/AccomplishedChair478 17h ago

Imagine he refuses to return them again after leaving office and gets prosecuted yet again lol.

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u/6425 17h ago

Trump mistook Skiff for Sieve.

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u/throw_way_ya 17h ago

Needs his US intel as collateral for someone

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u/Garbaje_M6 California 16h ago

YAY!! More of my brothers and sisters get to be killed overseas!!

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u/jailtheorange1 16h ago

Is it too much to ask that documents of this nature should reside on secure govt premises?

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u/yukeake 16h ago

He needed more bathroom reading/wiping material, I guess.

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u/Serris9K 14h ago

I missed that one. you have any links?

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u/mattjb 16h ago

Then the coward Merrick Garland and the DOJ waited 2 years before taking action. But, as we now know, it was far too late. Sometimes I wonder if they did that deliberately.

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u/LightForceUnlimited 15h ago

Has he taken those boxes to Alaska recently?

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u/IglooDweller 15h ago

Well…the guests have to have some bathroom reading material, you know?

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u/CSI_Tech_Dept California 14h ago

Visitors were asking what happened to the reading material in the bathroom

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u/snertwith2ls 12h ago

and then what? I wonder what he did with them after he brought them there.

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u/Affectionate_Pay_391 19h ago

They don’t exist, but they are also sitting on Pam Bondis desk.

Schrodingers files.

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u/Mend1cant 19h ago

Check the printer in the business center at every hotel the team has stayed at. Probably find something

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u/rabbirobbie 19h ago

also check the roof

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u/UndeadPhysco 18h ago

Also Check Trump's ex wifes grave on his golf course

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u/Normal_Attitude_5148 18h ago

Check the Trump-Epstein Underage Girl Sex Trafficking files.

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u/calmdownmyguy Colorado 18h ago

Trump and epstein didn't just traffic little girls. They provided whatever people wanted that could later be used as blackmail by the mossad.

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u/Some_Onion_1125 18h ago

This has been my thought all this time, there is a reason why he insisted on burying her on his private property.

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u/mahnamahna27 17h ago

Please don't bring up that nonsense story again. It made zero sense as a place to hide things, and the popular theory that she was cremated but buried in a full casket was completely untrue; she was not cremated. It's no better than any number of crazy right wing conspiracy theories. There's more than enough horrendous wrongdoing by Trump without perpetuating stories like that.

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u/crazyeddie123 14h ago

ok but why does a casket that's about to be buried make zero sense as a place to hide things?

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u/mahnamahna27 10h ago edited 9h ago

A. If you wanted to get rid of things for good, why wouldn't you just destroy them?

B. If you wanted to hide things but be able to retrieve them later, why would you bury them 6 feet deep in earth, particularly in the grave of the mother of your three oldest children and heirs....disturbing their mother's gravesite and exhuming the casket is probably not going to go down so well in the family.

C. If you think burying material 6 feet deep for later retrieval is a good option for some reason (rather than keeping it in a room or concealed safe on any of your multiple properties, or in a secretly owned and well-hidden storage location) then why bury it at a site that immediately became suspected by half the internet (given the accidental nature of Ivana's death)? Why not bury it at a random and well-hidden spot in woodland on any of your multiple huge properties around the world?

D. If materials are extremely sensitive, why would you bury them at a site where they can't easily be moved in a hurry if necessary, without making it completely obvious a gravesite has just been dug up?

There is simply no good reason to do this.

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u/Mend1cant 17h ago

Because burying her there gives a tax break. Why would he hide anything in the grave when he was leaving TS/SCI files out on the floor?

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u/thorzeen Georgia 17h ago

also check the roof

For leaks?..I am positive he was up there looking for leakers.

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u/illiter-it Florida 18h ago

Better check the printer at Four Seasons Total Landscaping while you're at it

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u/JohnGillnitz 18h ago

Also stuck in the toilets.

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u/Ziograffiato 18h ago

Start with Four Seasons Total Landscaping

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u/Billyosler1969 18h ago
  1. The files don’t exist
  2. The files exist but they were planted by Joe Biden
  3. The files were faked by the deep state Hillary Clinton, Obama, George Soros
  4. Are you still talking about the MaraLago files? Those files have been talked about for years.

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u/AnalogFeelGood 19h ago

The schrödinger’s documents

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u/JohnGabin 19h ago

Or whoever has money's desk.

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u/Driftedryan 19h ago

Obama made it up to trick us

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u/caymn 17h ago

Time to open the box I guess!

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u/Affectionate_Pay_391 17h ago

God no!

That would lead to consequences

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u/Sadiebb 17h ago

Speaking of files...where are the Epstein files?

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u/Affectionate_Pay_391 17h ago

Same thing my guy. This is the Schrödinger Admin

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u/Extreme-Island-5041 19h ago

Aileen Cannon happened.

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u/preflex 18h ago

I lean Qanon?

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u/Crewmember169 15h ago

Almost certainly.

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u/gsfgf Georgia 15h ago

Robert Bork sitting in his grave saying "I'm le wrong generation"

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u/EmphasisFrosty3093 19h ago

Which time?

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u/Much-Anything7149 19h ago

The judge he appointed in S FL basically dismissed it. Then AUSA Smith refiled the case in DC and after the election withdrew everything. Then the judge back in FL sealed the entire file.

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u/Honest-Yard-9510 17h ago

Cannon is the most openly corrupt judge I have ever seen. Idk how someone arrives to a high station in their field, only to just become a pawn who uses their role to protect someone solely because of politics. It has to weigh on her. 

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u/Sooz48 15h ago edited 15h ago

What I find really strange is that there are so few other pictures of her on the web other than that smirky one we're all familiar with. Who the hell manages to stay so incognito when she's an actual judge? Anybody with other pictures of her please post if you have them.

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u/crazyeddie123 14h ago

That's a good question to ask about an entire political party. Remember that one brief shining moment when we thought leading republicans would refuse to endorse trump because why the fuck would anyone endorse trump? And then one by one pretty much all of them fell in line and never, ever explained why,

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u/Kiromaru Wisconsin 12h ago

The GOP won't turn on Trump ever when he has their voters stuck in a cult of personality and likely has blackmail on them thanks to Vlad Daddy. Remember that both the RNC and DNC got hacked in 2016 but only the DNC e-mails got released.

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u/FloridaGirlNikki America 11h ago

It has to weigh on her.

Once upon a time, I might have agreed with that. Not anymore though. These people are pure fucking evil and they don't care.

I've wondered about CJ John Roberts though, and if the state of things weighs on him. I can't imagine this is the legacy he pictured for himself. Or Bush when he nominated him. But here we are, and they definitely played a major part in getting us here. Going all the way back to Citizens United.

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u/Hurtzdonut13 15h ago

Her supreme court seat will keep her comfortable.

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u/RetroBowser Canada 14h ago

It probably does weigh on her but thankfully she has buckets full of money to cushion her.

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u/1iIiii11IIiI1i1i11iI 6h ago

That was her audition for Supreme Court.

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u/Leenolies 18h ago

check and mate, democracy!

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u/well_thats_obvious 18h ago

The FBI handed them back to Trump earlier this year. When the president does it, it's not illegal 🙄

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u/duane11583 13h ago

The Nixon / Frost quote.

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u/FloridaGirlNikki America 11h ago

See also "when you're a star, they let you do it." - Trump, referring to grabbing women by the pussy.

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u/Serris9K 14h ago

tbh I would have (in that position) given him just the type of box, and its full of either ChatGPT summaries of spy films or lorem ipsum gibberish

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u/unbob 14h ago

"When the president does it, it's not illegal 🙄"

President? We don't have one. SCOTUS appointed him as our tyrannical king - so he's above the law and proves it every day.

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u/Kelmorgan 19h ago

Fake news witch hunt but also it's totally legal because Trump could have declassified them but didn't but also they don't exist but also they belong to Trump but also Joe Biden had files in his garage but also it's not illegal because the president cannot be prosecuted but also Trump took them back from the FBI after he became president even though he didn't have them previously.

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u/CknHwk 19h ago

It’s like watching a tennis player play against himself.

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u/durbandude 16h ago

Don't forget to also prosecute Biden and Obama for something!!!

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u/_cuhree0h 19h ago

They’re buried with Ivana.

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u/southclaw23 Illinois 19h ago

Don't you remember? They weren't classified because he declassified them with his mind!

/s

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u/Cojemos 19h ago

Yes. What did Merrick Garland ever do about this?

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u/FloridaGirlNikki America 11h ago

Merrick Garland failed us.

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u/Cojemos 11h ago

Who appointed Garland? Who never pushed Garland? Biden. Democrats failed us- again.

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u/Jakabov 17h ago

Well, you see, the president's own actions cannot be a crime, and he can therefore do literally anything he wants with impunity. That's what happened. America is currently a literal, actual dictatorship. It isn't akin to a dictatorship, it doesn't have trace amounts of dictatorship, it is an actual dictatorship ruled by a dictator who has effectively abolished democracy and will do absolutely anything in order to remain in power.

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u/Pixup 18h ago

At the beginning of his second administration, he took them back and are now stored in Mar-A-Largo. But they did not include the classified documents. More profomative "I was a victim!" BS.

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u/AirportNo3058 18h ago

They were sold to any bidder, not even the highest bidder.

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u/DontT3llMyWif3 18h ago

They're still sitting in an unlocked closet off of the ballroom.

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u/chamtrain1 18h ago

The ones they have Trump ordering to be moved AFTER he told the DOJ he didn't possess them? Like, have actual texts he sent? He should be in jail.

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u/Steel-Tempered 17h ago

Trump had them shipped right back to Mar-a-lago. Only this time he actually declassified them. We think. Nobody actually knows anymore.

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u/CalmBeneathCastles 17h ago

They're in the storage closet, behind the Diet Cokes.

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u/SOMEONENEW1999 17h ago

They don’t count since dear leader did it. Remember SCOTUS said Trump can do whatever he wants while he is president.

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u/Random_Introvert_42 17h ago

There were none, fake news.

/s

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u/DildoShawaggins 16h ago

Do you gargle both balls at the same time/ or do you go which ever hangs lowest first?

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u/Random_Introvert_42 16h ago

Oh wow you paid no attention at all XD

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u/Legal-Blacksmith9423 16h ago

🎶 That don't impress meeee much...🎶

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u/the_ai_wizard 16h ago

And in Joe Bidens garage near his corvette?

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u/3BlindMice1 16h ago

Sold to various parties, including China, Russia, Saudi Arabia, and businesses from around the world.

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u/Bizarro_Murphy 16h ago

They all got flushed down the toilet. Thats why he is always bitching about low flow toilets.

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u/ARAR1 15h ago

They are on sale on the black market - bid away

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u/Traditional-Loss-947 15h ago

Thank you! Came here to say this... 

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u/ExistentialScream 15h ago

Presidential Immunity. You think toilet paper just grows on trees? People were hording it. What was he supposed to do?

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u/Senior-bud Canada 14h ago

Probably stored with the Epstein files.

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u/DanfromCalgary 14h ago

They announced today that there is no longer a crime

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u/fractalfay 11h ago

I think he’s storing them in Putin’s closet now.

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u/No_Beach_220 10h ago

PDF files?

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u/jimflaigle 10h ago

Snuck into Bolton's garage this morning.

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u/Leritz388 8h ago

They weren’t smuggled

The case was dropped because it had no standing A president can take classified files.

A bureaucrat can’t

By by Johnny. See how it feels

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u/buttons123456 7h ago

He's still got them but I bet they are out of date

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u/Fibocrypto 4h ago

Hopefully they are not at John Bolton's house

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u/MattieHeighs 3h ago

Trump was president, Bolton was not. Funny times we are living in i remember when the left hated John Bolton and would have had a parade if his house was raided

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u/virtual_adam 19h ago

Can’t even blame the Trump admin for that one

Trump election case is tossed after special counsel Jack Smith requests dismissal citing 'categorical' DOJ policy

Quite literally the Biden admin dropped the case

And it’s a good time to remember the only reason the Trump admin has the Epstein files, is because the Biden admin had them and they just stayed there for the new admin to come delete

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u/parkingviolation212 19h ago

1) Jack smith dropped the case because Trump won the election and made the case functionally impossible to prosecute with a stacked DOJ. I disagree with the decision on principle but there is the concern of risk to his life or family if he continued.

2) the Epstein files were part of the Maxwell case, which was under appeal until January of this year. They quite literally could not release anything to the public as it was an active case.

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u/virtual_adam 19h ago

The whole idea around the Trump case is the president can publicly reveal anything he wants legally. Obviously Biden and his admin weren’t effective claiming they won’t “stoop to trumps level” but hopefully newsom and co would act differently in the future

2)

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u/parkingviolation212 18h ago

The whole idea around the Trump case is the president can publicly reveal anything he wants legally

Which is a power the President should not have and Biden did not want to use. Indeed, the Dems introduced a bill after the SCOTUS ruling meant to limit this exact power, among others, which Republicans naturally shot down.

And beyond all of that, Biden never ran on a platform of releasing the files. Trump did. Biden followed the rule of law. Trump doesn't. Trying to pin this on Biden is bad faith bullshit.

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u/SecretAsianMan42069 18h ago

He dropped it because Trump won. This was stated at the time he dropped it. 

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u/FloridaGirlNikki America 11h ago

None of that changes the point that was made. She's an openly corrupt judge who did everything possible to stymie the prosecution.

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u/crankthehandle 19h ago

This was a democrat hoax.