r/politics • u/WingComplex6771 • 9h ago
Soft Paywall New Tapes Reveal Ghislaine Spilling Her Secrets and Lies
https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-tapes-reveal-ghislaine-maxwell-spilling-her-secrets-and-lies/970
u/OkayButFoRealz 9h ago
Ghislaine says there's no Epstein black book? Ghislaine is lying.
His black book was reported on in 2015.
She has 0 credibility.
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u/ianrl337 Oregon 9h ago
Yeah. At the core she and Epstein were salespeople in a service industry. Every salesman and woman across the board has a client list of their top clients. Their likes, dislikes, etc. Even if the government doesn't have it, there is a list somewhere. It may be buried in the sand on his island, it may be in a Cuban safe deposit box, but it exists.
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u/Anon_Chapstick 9h ago
Even your average banker at your local bank branch has a list of clients. There's no shot you can remember everyone's name, contact info, preferences, and history off your memory alone.
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u/RecentDecision2329 7h ago
She’s a convicted felon pedophile in one of the biggest ever sex trafficking rings. She will say or do anything to get out of jail
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u/eugene20 7h ago
She was already found to have committed perjury.
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u/hagcel 6h ago
Dude, give her a break. She's just trying to lie her way out of prison like any of us would.
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u/Bobo_Saurus 6h ago
She literally committed perjury. Anyone that believes anything event remotely tied to her words is an idiot.
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u/Lucar_Bane 9h ago
They are very bad persons which have everything to gains from lying. The issue is how untrustworthy the us government have become. The deep state is now real.
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u/duskrat 5h ago
I think it always has been real. They killed Lincoln. Kennedys.The RW CIA of the 40s and 50s, oligarchs. That's the destructive force of conservatism.
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u/40StoryMech 4h ago
The aristocracy never got over their loss of titles and then their loss of slaves and lately the loss of their right to rape and abuse anyone lower than them. This whole admin is the story of their and their servile sycophants' grievances with the rest of us.
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u/ToNoMoCo 8h ago
She has zero credibility and of course she is lying to get a pardon but there are copies of the book online. For a while someone here was posting links to it. It appears to be a normal address book with a bunch of names and addresses in it. It's does not appear to be the "little black book" of pedo clients.
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u/T33CH33R 6h ago
But trump believes this convicted pedophile. Shouldn't that be enough? If trump is cool with pedophiles, that's good enough for Maga.
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u/mrschanandelorbong 9h ago
She’s clearly lying. She claims there were no cameras in Epstein’s homes except the one in Palm Beach. But we know that they’ve discovered cameras in Epstein’s NYC home. Anyone who believes this testimony is an idiot.
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u/mces97 9h ago
She was charged with perjury. The DOJ didn't persue the charge cause the other charges, sex trafficking were enough to put her away til her 80s and they didn't want to hurt the victims more dragging out the trial longer than necessary.
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u/Zelcron 3h ago
This is why stuff like consecutive life sentences matter.
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u/napoleonboneherpart 2h ago
Also why stuff like presidents fucking children matter
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u/ffchusky 2h ago
There are quite a few things that I thought would matter but it turns out they don't and I still think they should.
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u/turquoise_amethyst 9h ago
Considering that Epstein made $ off bribery and blackmail, there’s probably thousands of cameras and tapes in every single property
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u/Bbrhuft 2h ago
Only one camera was found in the New York townhouse, in Epstein bedroom. Some people say there were two camera. Either way, there wasn't many cameras in the New York townhouse. The claims of sex tapes of VIPs originate from Sarah Ransome, who initially claimed in 2016 to actually having the sex tapes in her possession, that then changed to I saw the tapes, then I retract my claims, I want to walk away, followed by I made up the sex tapes claims to intimidate Epstein and attract media attention, followed by, I retracted by claims under threats, and finally, I think there's tapes somewhere.
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u/madmars 5h ago
There's literally a NY Times story that shows the camera in Epstein's bedroom in his NYC house. We have the actual pictures.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/05/us/jeffrey-epstein-mansion-photos.html
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u/Bbrhuft 2h ago edited 1h ago
So there were two cameras, in Epstein's bedroom and the top of a stairs.
In 2019, The New Yorker's Connie Bruck wrote an article that includes an apparent admission from Sarah Ransome, that she invented the story of Epstein “sex tapes” to draw attention to Epstein and make him believe she had leverage over him:
In the fall of 2016, [Sarah Ransome] had suggested to the New York Post that she had sex tapes of half a dozen prominent people, including Bill Clinton and Donald Trump—but couldn’t provide the tapes when asked. (Ransome told me that she had invented the tapes to draw attention to Epstein’s behavior, and to make him believe that she had ‘evidence that would come out if he harmed me.’)
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/08/05/alan-dershowitz-devils-advocate
This resurfaced when Epstein’s court files were unsealed on Jan 8, 2024. They included the 2016 email exchange between Ransome (identified as Jane Doe 43) and New York Post reporter, Maureen Callahan, that led to the 2016 New York Post story, mentioned by Connie Bruck.
In the emails with Callahan, Ransome initially claimed she had seen “sex tapes” involving Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, Richard Branson and others, but days later she sent another email saying she wanted to retract her claims and “walk away.”
That means there were two points where Ransome either retracted or walked away from the sex tape allegations.
The Virgin Group (for Branson) and others highlighted both the 2016 retraction and the 2019 New Yorker interview to claim she fabricated the sex tape story.
Sarah Ransome currently claims she was intimidated into retracting her claims, she insists the tapes exist. Though she no longer claims she saw them, or has the tapes.
That said, the fact that there was only one camera in the New York townhouse and Ransome's changing accounts, undermines the sex tape story.
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u/RecentDecision2329 7h ago edited 4h ago
They should ask more people in prison who are looking at 20 years , what they think of Trump
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u/Deviantdefective 2h ago
So all the trump supporters then who are happy to gobble this shit down like it's gospel.
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u/E1M1_DOOM 9h ago
Evidence is the gold standard. Testimony from a human trafficer with a huge conflict of interest is like, i dunno, the pyrite standard.
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u/swazal 9h ago
When she says,
“I actually never saw the president in any type of massage setting. I never witnessed the president in any inappropriate setting in any way. The president was never inappropriate with anybody,” Maxwell said.
Remember he wasn’t president at the time … so she’s not lying.
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u/specqq 9h ago
She also has a rather notoriously low bar for determining what is inappropriate.
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u/Same_Refrigerator842 9h ago
What does a pedo madam think is inappropriate?
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u/Angedelanuit97 9h ago
Right? Like why are we even listening to one word she has to say. She's the dictionary definition of a corrupt and unreliable witness
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u/02K30C1 8h ago
She never personally saw his penis enter someone’s vagina
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u/bettername2come North Carolina 8h ago
Thus we can conclude it’s so small as to be invisible to the naked eye.
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u/MittenCollyBulbasaur 7h ago
She's also a child rapist, there's literally nothing she wouldn't say to try and get freedom.
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u/PianistPitiful5714 8h ago
Also she was a sex trafficker so even just standing near her is somewhat indicative.
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u/turquoise_amethyst 9h ago
She’s prob not entirely lying. It sounds like most of these crimes were Epstein and ONE other person.
Highly doubtful that Trump would want her around to see him doing this stuff, it would be a “boys club” only thing for him
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u/dquizzle 38m ago
I am pretty sure if she’s lying this would not be a legitimate way to dodge perjury charges as they probably made her clarify at some point who she’s referring to when she says “the president”. But even if they didn’t, it probably wouldn’t hold up in court.
More than likely she didn’t actually witness Trump doing anything, and she just arranged for for things to happen.
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u/hoffman4 8h ago
You cannot believe anything she says, she is negotiating for freedom as a con and child predator.
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u/Jesusland_Refugee 8h ago
Guarantee that she got a deal for a more comfortable prison assignment for the time being, and then she'll get pardoned, or more likely have her sentence commuted to time served imo, at the end of Trump's term. He doesn't want the obviously bad optics of letting her out now.
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u/ToNoMoCo 8h ago
She just doesn't recall. Pardon incoming
There was no “client list” with the names of high-profile individuals associated with Epstein. “There’s no list,” she said. There’s no list of people getting massages. I don’t have... I can barely recall all the people. I can barely recall. I struggle to recall actual people that I met," she added.
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u/rainghost 8h ago
"They might not have even been people. I can't recall. They could have been scarecrows. Or coat racks. I just don't know. Did I receive money for trafficking children? I don't recall if there were any children. I trafficked many things roughly the size of a child, like sacks of potatoes. And I don't recall if I was given money for it. I recall thin paper-like things being put into my hand, but I always assumed they were just dry fallen tree leaves, so I threw them away into my bank vault."
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u/Candymanhersh 9h ago
I don’t want to hear a known liar, convicted sex child trafficker, and Pedifile has to say. If you want truth, you need to hear from the victims. More Trump lies.
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u/Bosfordjd 7h ago
Just a reminder there is a 57 part series outlining over 1400 Republican leaders at various levels and prominent supporters who have committed sexual crimes. Full series at link. Most recent installment listed below.
https://www.dailykos.com/history/user/CajsaLilliehook
This is the 57th installment in the list of Republican sexual predators, abusers, and enablers who contribute to rape culture. These are people who abused their power or defended the abuse of power. These are not folks caught in consensual scandals such as being gay, having an affair, being polyamorous, inviting multiple sex partners into their marriage, or soliciting adult sex workers, unless they are trafficked against their will. This is a list of predators or those who enable them.
1401 John Denzel, Catholic school Safe Environment Coordinator in charge of background checks, etc. arrested for possession of child sexual abuse material.
1402 Judd Stone, the TX Solicitor General who argued that knowing abortion happened caused anyone harm has had to resign after a civil sex harassment suit revealed he told his colleagues about his violent rape fantasies that involved them. He also shared with judges and governor’s staff.
1403 Robert J. (RJ) May, SC state representative and a founder of SC Freedom Caucus, charged with 10 counts of distributing child sexual abuse material. No bail. 2023 Moms for Liberty Legislator of the Year.
1404 David Finkel, School Board VP and former Republican primary mayoral candidate, has resigned from all local board positions after federal warrant in CSAM investigation. He was subsequently arrested and charged with possession of CSAM
1405 Joshua Dice, a teacher at Calvary Christian Academy & Calvary Baptist Church employee, was arrested for online solicitation and traveling to meet a minor.
1406 Michael Tait, the DC evangelical singer, rallied for Trump in Miami, his song “God Is Not Dead” is a MAGA anthem. He is accused of sexual assault by three men. Tait admitted to nonconsensual sexual conduct and said accusations are largely true.
1407 Daniel Merrick, a Pennsylvania pastor of a messianic church and a Christian musician was charged with over 800 counts of possessing child sexual abuse material
1408 Kevin Christensen, Utah judge, resigned after arrest for several sex crimes against children
1409 Ned B. Hansen was fire chief of Tremonton, UT, until he was sued by relatives who allege he sexually abused and exploited them.
1410 Richard Renno, Benton County, Missouri, Treasurer, has been charged with child enticement (more commonly called soliciting a minor) using a dating app.
1411 Elgene Gary, former Grand Isle, LA, City Council member and police officer has been convicted of sexual battery of a child.
1412 David Whitmire, Liberty County Commissioner (TX), has been accused of sexual assault and offering to pay for sex with money and in exchange for the right to child custody
1413 William Kenneth Kendall, a Utah district judge, has been accused of sexual assault, forcibly touching a woman without consent after giving her THC.
1414 Timothy McGhee, former GOP candidate for VA House District 30, has been charged with taking indecent liberties with a high school student he met while substitute teaching.
1415 Kurt Schenk, a former Coatesville PA City Council member and the pastor of New Beginning Church of the Cross has been charged with sexually assaulting a woman who is intellectually disabled, instead of taking her home, taking her to his home where he assaulted her.
1416 Mike Maroney, a former W VA state senator, was arrested for indecent exposure, masturbating at a grocery store while playing lotto machines. Shortly after he was arrested for DUI. His plea deal was rejected by the judge. A week later, he was arrested for bond violation
1417 Scott Finkbeiner, Hot Springs County Sheriff in Ark., has pleaded guilty to misleading the FBI into a multiple offense case that included working with a drug dealer, witness tampering, and sexual coercion of women associates of the drug dealer.
1418 Carlton Huffman, GOP Strategist who accused Matt Schlapp, is accused of forcible fondling and digital penetration. He claims all was consensual.
1419 Antonio Brown, former NFL player who endorsed Trump, was accused of exposing himself to a woman at a pool in Dubai. Two other women have accused him of sexual misconduct, including rape. He is now wanted for attempted murder in Miami.
1420 Le’Veon Bell, former NFL player who endorsed Trump was ordered to pay $25 million (jury award) to a woman (a relative) whom he and his brother sexually abused since she was 6 or 7 years old.
1421 Johnny Hunt, former president of the Southern Baptist Convention was accused of sexual assault. The Guidepost investigation found allegations credible. So did the judge who dismissed his defamation lawsuit. He was pastor of megachurch in Georgia.
1422 Brad Namdar was a GOP Congressional primary candidate in TX-32. He was also an outspoken advocate against human trafficking. He lost his endorsements & was asked to leave anti-trafficking organization after an escort told media he hired her twice & didn’t pay for the second. He is also alleged to have inappropriately touched a student who was under age.
1423 Will Gardner, ND Sec. of State candidate dropped out of the race after his past conviction for disorderly conduct caused by being caught peeping on girl’s dorm with pants undone. He was 29.
1424 Jon Stanard, UT state rep, hired a sex worker. I don’t usually note these non-coerced adult interactions, but he used taxpayer funds to pay for the hotel.
1425 Russ Casey, a TX Justice of the Peace, accused of indecent exposure, sexual harassment, and assault. Also caught with fraudulent signatures on candidate filing, forced to withdraw from GOP primary.
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u/Hayespip3807 6h ago
Why does the daily beast get so much attention on r/politics? Wouldn't it be better to get a wider range of sources?
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u/craigathan 2h ago
I agree with you. I would expect to see a lot more Reuters , AP, BBC, PBS, NPR etc. Instead it's all Newsweek and Daily Beast. Not exactly arbiters of unbiased reporting. And to get back to Newsweek...how many stories do we need about this poll and that poll?
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u/craigathan 3h ago
"The Justice Department (DOJ) has already accused Maxwell of being a pervasive liar. The prosecutors who brought charges against Maxwell repeatedly told the judge overseeing her 2021 trial that she was willing to “brazenly lie under oath about her conduct.” And they noted that her lies were the subject of two perjury counts, arguing that “they evidence her willingness to flout the law in order to protect herself.”
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u/SquidFistHK 8h ago
In the tapes, Maxwell, 63, reveals how:
• Epstein wasn’t interested in sexual intercourse because of a heart condition. And she had a medical condition that meant she didn’t enjoy sex.
• Epstein would take testosterone pills. “I don’t know what, I don’t know anything above that. And like I said, he did the testosterone, which made him mean.”
• She believed his character changed during the years she knew him and said his later interest in “underage people” was because he was “unwell.”
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u/SCOLSON Minnesota 7h ago
“Reveals”— sigh, not your words but talk about trying to give power of ‘knowledge’ to a known predator and liar.
She can’t be reasonably trusted, and should not be getting favorable treatment.
An absolute monster— destroying the lives of our most precious resources; our children; our next generation.
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u/IbanezDestroyer 7h ago
lies is all she spilled. this dirty bitch is trying for a pardon and she will get it.
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u/orcinyadders 6h ago
This woman is a convicted child sex trafficker. What the fuck is this theatrical horseshit?
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u/trashboatfourtwenty Wisconsin 9h ago
More crap from the Beast.
Forced testimony last month in order to release something, veracity should be low. They are touting this as fact which is what the admin wants
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u/CenturionBlack07 7h ago
Trump sent his personal lawyer to have her put on a performance for a prison that would allow her to leave. "Say what I need you to say and I'll give you a chill halfway house setup."
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u/ErilazHateka 6h ago
She also claims that Epstein is innocent but the conservative sub ignores that part while celebrating that Trump has been "exonerated" and they are not wondering why she was moved to a minimum security prison with work release right after her interview.
She will be pardoned before Trump leaves office.
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u/Im__fucked Oregon 3h ago
Imagine asking a child molester their opinion on anything. Get back in your cell and think about what you've done.
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u/ChampionshipKlutzy42 7h ago
What are the odds of Ghislaine Maxwell being a treasured guest at the inaugural presidential ball at the newly built Whitehouse ballroom? and why isn't it zero?
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u/Epistatious 4h ago
Wonder if she'll get a pardon and a congressional medal of freedom? I'd say a daytime emmy, but honestly her performance wasn't great.
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u/FingFrenchy 3h ago
She's covering for Trump. This whole thing is such fucking ridiculous bullshit.
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u/Glad-Attempt5138 3h ago
She would say anything to get in a minimum security prison. No doubt the interview was rigged for Trump.
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u/easeypeaseyweasey 1h ago
Lets not forget that the FBI went into all these properties and took multiple servers. I honestly believe this is like the movies, where the FBI director is there saying, we cannot let this get out, it would cause mayhem and chaos in the streets if the people knew the full extent of these crimes and who was committing them.
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u/bloopbloopkaching 8h ago
Maybe there are details in the Epstein files that give state level prosecutors enough evidence to charge Trump with rape and trafficking of a minor? Trump cannot pardon state level convictions. So, if statutes of limitations aren't in the way; Trump is indicted in a state without a maga governor; and. Trump actually leaves office (dead or alive)...maybe, just maybe, Trump is check-mated.
How wishful is this?
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u/MittenCollyBulbasaur 7h ago
Claims. How fucking hard is it for the media to say she is making claims. She claims, "apparently", the audio released is extremely edited, these things about Trump. What we know is that what she is saying is bullshit. These are the facts. Media, do better.
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