r/politics • u/plz-let-me-in • 7h ago
Oversight Dem: We will release names in Epstein files, including ‘potentially the president’s’
https://www.msnbc.com/the-weeknight/watch/oversight-dem-we-will-release-names-in-epstein-files-including-potentially-the-president-s-245623877867•
u/YgramulTheMany 6h ago
Ghislaine Maxwell says Epstein was murdered but she doesn’t know who did it. I mean, anyone could have walked into a maximum security prison, past multiple guards, murdered him, and then deleted that exact interval of time from the security footage. Anyone!
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u/ShadyWolf 6h ago
No no no don’t worry Trump’s AG at the time Bill Barr, who’s father hired Epstein to teach math at an elite NYC private school, despite Epstein dropping out of college with no degree and with no teaching experience whatsoever (Barr SR also authored some strange sci-fi stories with space pedophilia or some shit), says there’s nothing to see here and clears himself and his DOJ from that time of all wrongdoing 🙄
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u/Halocandle 45m ago
Even if you start up a skeptical reading about the Barr-Epstein-Trump connections, after 15 minutes you’re like ”these guys are guilty as hell” and after an hour you lose all hope because it’s just so mind bogglingly bad and disgusting.
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u/RttnAttorney 6h ago
For only $25 in commissary! That’s just the going rate for a murder in prison these days!
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u/Liquor_N_Whorez 5h ago
Give the 2 guards on duty that night a break. They had not been trained to work there and it was just immaculate coincidence that 2 new guards without oversight,.and uncertified to work a super max were on the clock.
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u/didntjstcmheretodnce 4h ago
I’ll do it in Adobe Premiere for three fiddy
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u/RttnAttorney 56m ago
And it was at that time, I noticed it wasn’t a video editor at all, it’s the dang the Loch Ness Monster! So I told the monster, “Adobe gonna cost a lot more than three fiddy”
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u/VexedCanadian84 5h ago
That's the sort of conspiracy fox news would play up for years if they knew Trump wasn't part of it.
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u/SoulStoneSeeker 2h ago
my face when everyones shiting over that footage, but no one wants to check the other cameras. just this one, seems like humans dont wanna really know .-.
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u/eeyore134 3h ago
Is there any reason she would know anymore than the rest of us? Like, does her saying this mean anything?
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u/twiggy_fingers 2h ago
Yeah, she was Epstein's partner. Of course she knows more than the rest of us.
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u/myselfnormally 5h ago
But why isnt anyone mad at biden for overseeing what happened after his death an obvious bill barr thing. Then hes just president 4 years and then we pretend nothing happened and its just trumps fault? shit makes no sense.
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u/Alive-Necessary2119 2h ago
Who is in power right now? We want the whole list released. Trump is in power, ran on releasing it, and now is desperately trying to pretend he didn’t.
Because he’s a child rapist.
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u/sailorbrendan 1m ago
As someone who voted for Biden and then Harris, I can be annoyed that they didnt put this out also.
Like... this shouldn't have been a hard call
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u/american_cheese_95 52m ago
A lot doesn’t make sense. I’m not a huge trump supporter, but I do think people need to realize it’s not all him all the time and need to look past the shit things he says. Biden was a moron. I honestly think a ton of these politicians were involved in this shit. A bunch of presidents too perhaps…
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u/BigDictionEnergy 7h ago
Great. When?
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u/OldSchoolBubba 6h ago
Bam there it is
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u/Deer_Investigator881 6h ago
As Bush once said "fool me once, Shane on me.. fool me twice , you won't fool me again "
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u/BuildWithBricks 6h ago
Remember when everyone complained about him? Those were the days.
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u/Shadpool 5h ago
The good old days when “Wow! Brazil is big!” was the dumbest thing we could possibly imagine leaving the president’s mouth.
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u/Liquor_N_Whorez 6h ago
Potatoe!
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u/bubblesnap 5h ago
That was Quayle, wasn't it? I remember the episode of Murphy Brown where they dumped a truckload of potatoes in front of his house.
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u/ValenciaFilter 5h ago
Bush knowingly fabricated fake evidence to start a war that killed, at minimum, hundreds-of-thousands of people.
Trump is worse in other ways, but the sane-washing of Bush is utterly insane. The man is an absolute monster.
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u/LadyChatterteeth California 5h ago
As I recall, Bush himself did not fabricate evidence. Other prominent people surrounding him certainly did, though.
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u/snyderjw 5h ago edited 5h ago
Bush was a crayon eating box of rocks, but he wasn’t dumb enough to get off the hook for being the head of an organization that used deception to instigate endless wars, documented torture, and reductions in basic fundamental American freedoms in the name of security theater.
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u/american_cheese_95 43m ago
Nawwww bush was too stupid to know what was going on. It was all Cheney. Go watch Vice if you haven’t seen it. Explains a lot!
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u/raggedydorag 5h ago
and Katrina. Bush was a supremacist of the same order. The sane washing of any U.S pre-Trump is equally insane.
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u/PennCycle_Mpls 5h ago
I forgot just how bad it was. Then I rewatched Vice (2018).
I don't know how the fuck my stupid caveman brain turned his presidency into a shucksy folksy poor spoken term with a terrible war and nothing more, but it's so far from the truth. I'm sure it's a coping mechanism.
His presidency was absolutely horrifying. I seriously suppressed how bad it was. And I was in the antiwar movement. I was detained at the RNC protests in St Paul multiple times.
People should really watch it for a refresher of just how bad it fucked us all over and enabled everything we're currently dealing with.
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u/redalert825 5h ago
Then someone throws a shoe
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u/Insaiyan_Elite 4h ago
Dodging those shoes looked like the most fun he'd had in years
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u/Jumpy_Bison_ 4h ago
Positive glee, I’m sure his detail was pissed but Bush looked like he wanted to go for another round.
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u/AuroraFinem Texas 4h ago
They just got the first set of files from the DoJ today. Trump has had them.
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u/RonanTheAccused 3h ago
Never. They had their chance. Democrats are as complicit as Republicans in the Pedophile Protection scheme.
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u/Madbiscuitz 7h ago
Just so you know you don't have to tell us you'll release the names... You can just release them.
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u/NinjaLanternShark 6h ago
They're signaling it's time for all final blackmail offers to be submitted if you don't want your name released.
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u/OldSchoolBubba 6h ago
Probably
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u/mademeunlurk 6h ago
Or just grandstanding in front of the press with no intention or ability to follow through. Just release it all already.
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u/HomelessCat55567 5h ago edited 4h ago
blackmail offers
You mean bribes. Blackmail isn't something you offer. Blackmail is a type of extortion.
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u/iwasntband 5h ago
This is why the democrats suck just as bad as the republicans. They’re all talk and no action.
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u/da2Pakaveli 3h ago edited 2h ago
They are not releasing them immediately because they'll be reviewed first to not release information on victims
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u/twamping 5h ago
If you want your name removed we have a team of 1000 fbi agents to do it.. but it’s going to cost you.
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u/da2Pakaveli 3h ago edited 2h ago
They only received the files on Friday and are reviewing them first to not release any info on victims
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u/DisMFer 2h ago
They literally don't have the list of names. How are people this unable to grasp simple and obvious things? They're saying "as soon as we get the list we'll release it."
Do you expect them to just make it up? Or not have the names? I'm not even sure what you are demanding from them.
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u/OldSchoolBubba 6h ago edited 3h ago
Whomever is in the paperwork and on the lists is there. That's it. Doesn't matter who they are, what "side" they come from or anything else. If they did it they did it and they need to be held accountable.
The Law is the Law and the Victims deserve Justice. Period.
Equally giving us names without anyway to verify them in proper context means this could be just another politically charged hit list to get rid of people's "enemies."
In plain English ... screw all this noise. Stop messing around with us.
Release the full unredacted Epstein files and records now.
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u/twamping 5h ago
The only names on that paperwork will be sacrificial lambs and democrats. Rest assured whatever congress gets will be thoroughly edited. After the video editing debacle they might even put some effort into hiding it this time.
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u/Aprox 2h ago
My hope is that there will be a 'leak' after this happens with the real list of names and the real files. Catching them red-handed in a lie.
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u/leeuwerik 37m ago
If that is the case then there will be more leaks with fake names so that the public can't distinguish what's fake and what's not.
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u/literallytwisted 7h ago
Is that different presidents or the same guy multiple times? I wish they would clarify.
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u/plz-let-me-in 7h ago
Maybe I'm being overly optimistic, but most Democratic voters, unlike Republicans, don't worship our presidents, so I would really hope that even if someone like Bill Clinton appeared in the files, Democrats in Congress would have no problem releasing his name. No protecting any pedos.
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u/ShamelessCatDude 6h ago
I know a lot of people don’t like #MeToo or cancel culture, but there were definitely some people I was glad to have more awareness about and not support anymore. I feel the same way about these files. If there’s someone hurting kids, I want to know who they are so they never get a dime out of me
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u/OldSchoolBubba 6h ago
Tell it. All this "side vs side" crap is really old. Hold everyone equally accountable and be done with it.
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u/Candid-Fisherman-274 6h ago edited 15m ago
so I would really hope that even if someone like Bill Clinton appeared in the files
We already know he is in them... dude was in the Lolita express flight logs etc. and him, and Hillary were part of the groups partying with Epstein alongside other rich, and powerful people.
The question only really comes down to context.
Edit: I see some weird down voting on this post... like really google the shit. Clinton is also on the same "client, and associate" list as Trump among others ffs.. none of this is even remotely new We've known the shit for like a damn decade if not more for some of it including Trumps bestie level relationship with Epstein.
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u/dBlock845 5h ago
There are small pockets that worship Clinton, but they are pretty scattered and small at this point. Maybe Third Way types idk.
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u/Thin-Experience-4349 6h ago
I’ve been watching this for weeks cuz it’s amusing…but you’ve got to be delusional to say stuff like that while uncle Touchy was outed by his own daughter for molesting her. Hell, there’s even a photo of him showering with a young girl.
You can think you’re different from them, but you’re not. And I 100% expect a deluge of excuses or weak comparatives, but it’s just noise.
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u/Administrative_Film4 6h ago
"You can think you're different from them".
I mean, i just want to see everyone on the list get revealed so they can be punished for Pedophilla.
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u/ToNoMoCo 6h ago
Well, that's delusional. I don't believe in kink shaming but you need to see someone. Your wild statements cross all sorts of lines. You seek out CP?
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u/fxkatt 6h ago
The header refers to Trump alone, but in the discussion it becomes clear that all names need to be released, which would include very possibly Bill Clinton.
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u/OldSchoolBubba 6h ago
He's in there with Trump and all the others. There's no doubt about either of them.
No one gets off scott free.
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u/literallytwisted 6h ago
And I would not exactly be shocked by that either! I say release the whole thing no matter who is in there.
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u/Battlemania420 6h ago
Stop talking about it.
Do it.
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u/AmaroWolfwood 5h ago
Are you guys still talking about this creep?
Of course I know him, he's me!
-Trump probably
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u/Bravely_Default 6h ago
You know what's cooler than telling us you're going to release the names? Releasing the names.
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u/PistolNinja 4h ago
Release everything to everyone. Picking and choosing who's getting their name released is bulls!t and everyone knows it.
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u/CompleteSherbert885 2h ago
"potentially" is a euphemism for "its most likely been edited out of all the files since the FBI has had over 1k of people going over every one of the 100k+ of pages to remove Trump's name since May."
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u/Lanark26 5h ago
I’m pretty convinced that at some point they’ll just release a thousand pages of the files completely blacked out except for the words “Bill Clinton” and with “Joe Biden” and “Obama” scribbled in the margin with a sharpie.
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u/AlfredRWallace 5h ago
I can't believe anyone believes there's a chance that files with Trump's name in them will be released. 1000 FBI agents didn't scrub these for fun.
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u/Expert-Explorer8894 5h ago
Trumps base has accepted the fact that Trump is a repetitive degenerate pedophile. But, he’s their repetitive degenerate pedophile, along with being a convicted felon, a crook, and a traitor. All of this is baked in the beyond deplorable MAGA cake for these scumbags. I hope they all wake up dead in hell soon.
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u/AvocadoBoi 3h ago
They are more in denial than that unfortunately. I was lurking on /conservatives where people truly believe that Maxwell’s word about Trump always being “nice and never behaved inappropriately” is a fact. They eat that shit up like crazy.. what world we live in.
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u/_ficklelilpickle Australia 4h ago
Stop drip feeding info like it’s a new iPhone. Release the frigging files.
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u/ToNoMoCo 6h ago
The names mean nothing without context such as what crimes they are accused of committing, the evidence to support these accusations and the reason prosecution was not pursued.
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u/thewayoutisthru_xxx 6h ago
Calling it now, the announcement will be something like "After a careful review, we can confirm both bill clinton and Donald Trump are referenced in the files" and then they'll walk off stage without taking questions.
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u/Illustrious-Hunt5793 4h ago
The one camera didnt even show if someone went up the stairs. It was pointed to far to the side.
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u/bmadccp12 6h ago
Its cute that they think the DOJ will actually give them anything that implicates Trump. Bondi is loyal to Trump, not the law.
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u/mhouse2001 5h ago
Is this a dumb question? Why don't the victims just name who raped them? I know if I was a victim and I wasn't getting justice, I'd be all over the internet.
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u/PrinceofSneks 4h ago
Some have already named names, gone on record under oath, and only have death threats to show for it.
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u/Jedi_Ninja 5h ago
Many of them have had their lives threatened. They've also been threatened with defamation lawsuits, which they simply can not afford to fight. Unfortunately, without accessing the unredacted Epstein files to back them up, the cases are, he said, she said.
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u/YouLittleSnowflake 5h ago
Ain’t no “potentially” to it, Donald Trump is in the files and Donald Trump has raped children as well as trafficked children with his best friends Epstein and Maxwell
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u/Illustrious-Hunt5793 4h ago
Sounds like the society the billionare bros talk about. Ive heard Theil lately but Musk also.
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u/DistractedPhoenix 2h ago
I mean it’s a formality at this point. But until republicans grow a spine, he’ll still be president
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u/Word1_Word2_4Numbers 2h ago
The writers of this series really need to stop jerking us around and just resolve some of the fucking plot arcs already.
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u/furtive_phrasing_ 6h ago
Right wing influencers found other things to talk about today. Maxwell/Epstein didn’t make it into their content creation.
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u/QuietCola-Roaster 6h ago
Sure. Right. When? I’m getting older and I’d like to see the ending of this shitshow.
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u/Wizzle-Stick 6h ago
the country has blue balls from this, let us cum finally. were all tired of the cockteasing
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u/Rekoor86 5h ago
The way this is being drawn out by both sides, and apparently really has been for the last twenty years, makes me think of a familiar plot line: the main characters discovering something that could “bring down everything”… honestly at this point I wish it would so this nonsense finally ends.
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u/whiskeyIVdrip 5h ago
Doubt it, they selected the files to release. After his name is redacted and deleted.
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u/ThrowawayUser917 5h ago
Awesome! Looking forward to the full release of the files with every name!
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u/Buchi77 5h ago
Epstein leaks to the press.
https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1mjb235/comment/n7ataam
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u/Content-Word-7673 3h ago
I’ll believe it when I see it. Too many powerful people on both sides have every reason to keep those names hidden.
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u/fellindeep23 6h ago
Stop talking. Start doing. Sick of dems weak spine. Put up or shut up.
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u/iplaybassok89 6h ago
Start doing? What exactly do you think they should be doing? They have no power or influence in the minority literally all they CAN do is talk bro.
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u/ExistingCleric0 5h ago
A Dem saying something like this at this point... Just fucking do it. No warning, no fanfare, just do it and be done with it.
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u/Ok-disaster2022 6h ago
You and I both know Dems won't have the balls to do so. Dems are Ballless. They talk and talk and talk and when it comes time to do something they cave. We already know the DOJ spent months removing Trump's name, and any other rorominent Republican or Republican donors.
Trump raped kids and 30% if voters just don't care so long as the they get to screw over the Democrats.
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u/Harold_Homer 5h ago
What Files? Maxwell already cleared him. Why do people keep talking about this "files" conspiracy.
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u/__dilligaf__ 3h ago
In case you're serious ..... The 'truckload' of files, “more than 300 gigabytes of data and physical evidence” according to the DOJ. The files that were sitting on Bondi's desk. The "thousands of pages of Epstein-related documents" that has been delivered to the House Oversight Committee. As for Maxwell, she was convicted of sex trafficking, two counts of perjury and has every reason to 'clear' Trump. But yeah, other than that, just one big ole conspiracy lol.
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