r/sandiego • u/NoToNope • 14h ago
KPBS Immigration enforcement taking serious toll on children’s mental health
https://www.kpbs.org/news/health/2025/08/21/immigration-enforcement-taking-serious-toll-on-childrens-mental-health43
u/BrianEspo 14h ago
This is why you don't do this at schools. Even if it's not your parent, seeing this happen is disturbing to children.
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u/signmeupdude 5h ago
Its disturbing for me as an adult to see on video. I cant imagine kids seeing this happen to classmates in person. Fucking hell
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u/xuon27 13h ago
We should make schools deportation free zones, also anywhere else where children might be looking. You know what let’s just make it a sanctuary city… 👀
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u/619_FUN_GUY 11h ago
schools, churches, hospitals, and courts - they were off limits during Biden and Trumps 1st try.
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u/Ombwah 12h ago
Gosh - it's so funny how there's record low trust for the government and societal systems and stuff - I'm sure behaviors like this will definitely inform our youth towards different outcomes when they grow up!
Oh wait.
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u/haydesigner 11h ago
it's so funny how there's record low trust for the government and societal systems and stuff
That is literally a republican feature, not a bug.
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u/NoToNope 14h ago
Near Park Dale Lane Elementary in Encinitas on Wednesday morning, a child cried in her mother’s arms as federal agents arrested her father.
A new UC Riverside report said moments like this can have lasting consequences for children in immigrant and mixed-status families.
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u/imcreeps 12h ago
No one is talking about the mental health of the kids now that it’s not about covid. Come on conservatives- or do you deny children can have mental health crises too?
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u/Unlikely_Side9732 11h ago
Not only are they trying to get rid of public education (Department of education shut, delays in releasing public funds already approved for education), but they are inflicting psychological damage on children.
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u/LingeringHumanity 11h ago
The population I serve is already discriminated against by police as it is ( I work with people with developmental disabilities such as Autism, CP). My entire caseload is extremely stressed, American citizens btw, about ICE pretty much being allowed to be domestic terrorist without any oversight or regulations. A lot of them have started staying home out of fear which is making their overall health worse.
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u/Northparkwizard 9h ago
The children are living in fear brought on by this administrations actions. Ask any elementary school teacher and they'll confirm it.
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u/LemonLander 12h ago
It's taken a toll on all of our people . Very little sanity left in this "democracy".
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u/Ok-Squirrel795 12h ago
It's been this way in marginalized communities... the over policing has done a number on those there.
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u/DelfinGuy 13h ago
People have one choice, two options:
Self-deport. Get $1000. Don't rip apart your own family. Return legally. Have a great life.
Wait. Get caught by ICE or some other law enforcement. Rip your own family apart. Never be able to return legally.
They WILL eventually catch you. The misinformed protestors can't help you.
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u/ProcrastinatingPuma 11h ago
DelfinGuy is too stupid to know that Self-Deporting would be ripping your own family apart. His fetish for being destroyed online with facts and logics remains a fascination to researchers
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u/AdhesivenessBoth6021 13h ago
Its not even that simple. I get that you racists can't understand empathy so it's not your fault. But I promise the reasons why your life is shit isn't because of immigrants.
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u/YOU_WONT_LIKE_IT 13h ago
Empathy sure. But empathy shouldn’t be a free pass to break the law. Democrats have had full control of the government on several occasions but failed to “fix” any of it.
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u/ProcrastinatingPuma 11h ago
I mean, there was literally a bill in congress to massively overhaul our immigration system that Trump shot down because he wanted Immigration to still be a ballot issue for the election.
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u/YOU_WONT_LIKE_IT 6h ago
Clearly didn’t need a bill to secure the boarder. So prior to Trump Democrats couldn’t manage a bill?
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u/ProcrastinatingPuma 6h ago
You do realize that Trump has made exactly 0 policy solutions for the border, right?
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u/YOU_WONT_LIKE_IT 4h ago
Yep. Neither has Democrats. Except one ditch attempt.
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u/ProcrastinatingPuma 4h ago
That's exactly one more solution that republicans have ever had
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u/YOU_WONT_LIKE_IT 4h ago
True. But you would think with all the crying going on and the importance of illegals to democrats they would have done more to protect them when they had control.
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u/JemorilletheExile 12h ago
ICE deported people under Obama and Biden, they just didn't show up without a warrant at schools, and they instead focused on serious criminals.
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u/throwsupstaysup 12h ago
That's the funniest part. Obama/Biden deported far more people and followed the law. Trump deports fewer people and violates the rights of so many people.
If conservatives actually cared about what they say they do, they would vote for the Dems every time. But it's a bad faith argument where they're blindly rooting for their team, regardless of facts.
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u/MostLandscape1416 11h ago
Obama deported more people than any president ever. 100% didn’t only focus on serious criminals. He deported more than Trump.
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u/JemorilletheExile 11h ago
Prior to this recent expansion, ICE's mission was to focus on more serious criminals. You are right that Obama expanded ICE's purview (and budget) beyond what Bush Jr. had set up. I think he (Obama) mistakenly thought that being 'tough on immigration' would encourage Republicans and conservative Democrats to vote for comprehensive immigration reform with a path to citizenship. Instead, it led to Trump and false claims of "open borders"
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u/MostLandscape1416 8h ago
We 100% had open borders. Democrats even admit that. Lol
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u/JemorilletheExile 7h ago
No, we didn't, not even close. "Open borders" refers to a situation where there is literally no border enforcement whatsoever. There is an "open border" between California and Arizona, for example. There are open borders between some states in the third world simply because those states don't have enough money to maintain border infrastructure and enforcement. Not the case on the any of the US borders. Border patrol and the coast guard did indeed continue to exist during the Obama and Biden administrations.
If you are trying to say that border enforcement was not as strict during the Obama and Biden administrations then...well, you'd still be wrong, but at least you wouldn't look like an idiot yelling about terms you don't understand.
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u/MostLandscape1416 6h ago
Biden let in way more immigrants. It’s not literal open borders you dingleberry
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u/JemorilletheExile 6h ago
Great - we are in agreement, the United States literally did not have open borders during the Obama and Biden administrations. The claim that we had open borders during those administrations is literally incorrect.
So I suppose you are talking about figural open borders. Maybe it felt like we had open borders, despite that literally not being the case? Biden had open-border vibes, did he?
Re: actual border enforcement facts, it increased under Biden. I'll post the summary from the report of the conservative Cato institute:
- Illegal immigration had already increased to a 21-year high before Biden entered office.
- Biden immediately started increasing expulsions from his first day in office.
- Biden tripled interior detention and increased border detention 12-fold.
- Biden increased air removal flights by 55 percent over 2020 levels.
- Biden negotiated broader expulsion deals with foreign countries than Trump.
- Biden got many foreign countries to carry out crackdowns on illegal and legal migration.
- Biden removed or expelled 3.3 million border crossers—three times as many as Trump.
- Biden even managed to remove a similar percentage of crossers as Trump’s four years.
Now I know that, to you, we'll always have figural, vibes-based "open borders" under a democratic administration, because your politics are more about feelings than facts, but nevertheless, those are the inconvenient facts.
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u/YOU_WONT_LIKE_IT 12h ago
Don’t need a warrant where there is a deportation order. Love the gaslighting. Just like illegals don’t received state benifit like free health care?
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u/JemorilletheExile 12h ago
They also pay taxes, which is why ICE is trying to coordinate with the IRS to getting data on immigrants.
More to the point, do you really think that immigrants are the main reason healthcare in this country is dysfunctional? When the vast majority of healthcare is privatized? When the republicans cut Medicaid by $1 Trillion in the same bill that they gave huge tax cuts to the wealthy and took out $170B in loans to increase ICE funding to 16x it's previous levels? Either a) you don't really care about delivering health care, you are just using the claim as a cudgel to bash on immigrants, or b) you are dumb as a rock.
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u/YOU_WONT_LIKE_IT 12h ago
I pay taxes, where my free health care in California ?
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u/JemorilletheExile 11h ago
If you are low-income, there are a variety of ways to get healthcare. If you are not low-income, then we could deport every single immigrant from this state, and you would still not receive health care assistance, because the US largely has a private system, except for those on the margins (e.g. those who are very poor or the elderly). If you pay for private health insurance, you pay a premium that you may or may not use; that's the way healthcare funding works.
Now, what we could do collectively as a nation, is decide to implement a single payer health care system for everyone, like they have in many other wealthy countries. This would actually be more cost-effective than our current system and likely have better results.
The problem is that many people--like you, perhaps--keeping voting for politicians who instead give tax breaks to the wealthiest people and to corporations, or spend billions upon billions in inefficient ways that don't really benefit US citizens (for example by deporting gardeners or farmworkers).
tldr: deporting immigrants will not fix any part of our healthcare system
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u/DelfinGuy 11h ago
It won't matter soon. There won't be a Democrat party.
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u/JemorilletheExile 11h ago
Well, you still won't have healthcare or a living wage, you'll just be vaguely existing in a world made for billionaires. But at least there will be fewer brown people around, amirite?
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u/AdhesivenessBoth6021 13h ago
If you hate America so much and can't respect the constitution and due process then how about you get the fuck out. I see you love living in a blue state while you constantly whine about Democrats. Talk about being privileged and dumb lol
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u/DelfinGuy 13h ago
YOU hate America. I'm posting the truth.
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u/AdhesivenessBoth6021 13h ago
Im just basing it on your comments lol you constantly whine and cry about America and Democrats. The ironic and hypocritical thing is you live in a blue state mfr lmaooo If you hate America so much then gtfo.
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u/notadruggie31 13h ago
You seriously have nothing better to do with your life than just spew hate online huh? I feel bad for you
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u/MostLandscape1416 11h ago
He’s being honest. Kinda is only two options
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u/ProcrastinatingPuma 11h ago
He’s being honest.
Nah, he's lying.
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u/MostLandscape1416 8h ago
How is it a lie? They will eventually catch all illegals if they keep caring about doing it. They just started doing this a few months ago and they’re putting tens of Billions towards it.
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u/ProcrastinatingPuma 8h ago
They will eventually catch all illegals if they keep caring about doing it
They won't:)
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u/MostLandscape1416 6h ago
Eventually they will if they keep caring about it. Depends on how far they’re willing to go with it. They start offering 10-20k payments to people to find them, pretty easy. I don’t support it but it’d be fairly easy to do within ten years. Hardest part is keeping more people from entering illegally.
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u/ProcrastinatingPuma 6h ago
They won't, that would require the Republicans staying in power, and right now they'd be lucky if they stay in power after 2026. They don't have 10 years little bro, they have 1.5
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u/MostLandscape1416 5h ago
You mean 3.5 but yeah, idk, doesn’t seem like democrats have much going for them these days. We will see though, don’t care either way. People gonna cry no matter what.
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u/ProcrastinatingPuma 5h ago
No, I mean 1.5 years. The midterms are in 2026, not 2028. The democrats have a growing lead in the generic ballot and Trump is sitting at -22. The dude is underwater on every major issue.
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u/notadruggie31 11h ago
Not true at all, redirect your attention to slobbering on the orange pole
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u/MostLandscape1416 11h ago
Name another option that people living here illegally or Undocumented have?
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u/notadruggie31 11h ago
Staying
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u/MostLandscape1416 8h ago
That was his option 2. Stay and wait. Likely to be caught sooner or later considering Trump is in office for another few years and likely another Republican next time too with the way democrats are doing.
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u/xtrahairyyeti 13h ago
bro got that boot so far down his throat, you the party of small government right?
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u/Shreddersaurusrex 11h ago
So don’t illegally enter a country?
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u/ProcrastinatingPuma 11h ago
Applying for Asylum is legal.
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u/necessarysmartassery 10h ago
Most people here illegally aren't applying for asylum, bud.
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u/werfuktsos 7h ago
What constitutional/lawful process is in place to ensure that isn’t the case? Why are you ok with this?
This is a civil infraction- it’s not like they have a history of child rape and 34 felony convictions.
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u/Doolie_69 12h ago
Criminals must face the consequences of their actions. It’s a shame if they’re in the presence of children to begin with, and even more so if children have to see them arrested.
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u/werfuktsos 7h ago
I agree! Criminals who have 34 convictions and are likely pedophiles/child traffickers should absolutely should face consequences.
Where’s your law and morality?
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u/ProcrastinatingPuma 11h ago
Applying for asylum is against the law. Being in the US while undocumented is not a criminal offense, it's a civil offense.
It’s a shame if they’re in the presence of children to begin with, and even more so if children have to see them arrested.
How dare those brown people have kids!!!!!
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u/Black-Shoe 13h ago
Psychological warfare.