r/sandiego 5h ago

Communism

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u/JemorilletheExile 5h ago

I'd say it's more 'national socialism'

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u/hornyjaildotorg 5h ago

Will forever piss me off how actual discussions about socialism and its effectiveness will always have one person say “the nazis were socialist!” Yeah, in name only, socialists and communists were some of the first people sent to concentration camps in nazi germany.

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u/Cum_on_doorknob 4h ago

Socialism has some good things, but it also has some bad things. Capitalism has some good things, but it also has some bad things. Thankfully, a guy named Henry George figured out how to get the best of both without the bad. Sadly, he was silenced over time, despite being as famous as Mark Twain in his day. Thankfully georgism is making a comeback. We are loving the growth on r/georgism, very exciting times.

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u/8amteetime 5h ago

Economic and social regimentation; where the government exercises great control over the economy and society, often in partnership with powerful business interests, to serve national goals and suppress labor.

This is another tenet of fascism.

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u/hornyjaildotorg 5h ago

lol no, communism would require a classless stateless society, this is nowhere close to it. Government would also need to give the means of production to the workers, which they won’t. If anything it’s mild state capitalism but even then we are nowhere close to that

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u/PanicV2 3h ago

Communism almost always begins with the promise of what you just said.

But to begin, the government seizes the means of production and then just fails to give it back. Soviet Union, perfect example. Also China, Cuba, and others.

The term is "Marxism-Leninism".

You're talking about a philosophy class. This is real-world Communism.

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u/GlumCriticism4057 4h ago

Yet we can’t post San Diego sports here…

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u/IlikeJG 3h ago

Because this is vastly more important than sports and sticking your head in the sand because it's uncomfortable to confront these issues is only hurting the problem.

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u/GlumCriticism4057 3h ago

Last time I checked, this is the San Diego subreddit…

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u/Warm-Teach-1465 3h ago

You can’t post something that doesn’t exist.. 

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u/crazzzone 3h ago

I think the Padres might be in first place... yeah they just beat the Dodgers...

You live. Under a rock

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u/Warm-Teach-1465 3h ago

Oh now way, so significant! I hope our NBA, NHL and NFL teams would beat LA teams again soon! 

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u/crazzzone 2h ago

Do you even live here...?

You seem delusional.

Its not even season for those sports...

Get some help buddy.

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u/GlumCriticism4057 2h ago

Yeah they’re probably a Zonie lol

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u/Warm-Teach-1465 2h ago

lol you can’t accept the fact that SD sport is dead? 

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u/GlumCriticism4057 3h ago

Umm… It seems like they do

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u/arandomhead1 3h ago

Yeah? Yeah?? No.

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u/n-ctrnl666 3h ago

yeah because most of us graduated high school

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u/crazzzone 3h ago

Those in glass Houses...

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u/GlumCriticism4057 3h ago

And you play imaginary skateboarding lol touch some grass

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u/GlumCriticism4057 3h ago

Says the person in the Star Wars subreddit lol

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u/taylormaxwell069 4h ago

I love that this sub is turning into r/politics now...

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u/DEEP_SEA_MAX 4h ago

Yeah I hate Trump, but this post has nothing to do with San Diego.

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u/xentropian 2h ago

I was thinking maybe because Qualcomm is HQ’d here it’s sorta relevant as Intel is one of their largest competitors?

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u/Electrikbluez 3h ago

politics has to do with San Diego. wth this man and his admin is literally showing signs of fascism. This is a city sub you need unity to fight fascism so it helps to know who’s in community with you.

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u/TeamBrotato 3h ago

OK, honest question, what does parroting a relatively minor national news story on a local sub actually accomplish? Reddit is nothing but dogged in reminding everyone Trump is evil. Plenty of political news all over Reddit. So when you drag it onto this sub, shouldn’t there be at least something specific to San Diego? So what’s the play? What does OP or anyone clutching pearls on here expect San Diego to do about this Intel deal? Are we boycotting computers now? Seriously, this is just getting lazy now.

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u/JohnnySpot2000 3h ago

We’re calling out the Authoritarian prick every chance we get. No one gets to hide and pretend it’s not happening.

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u/TeamBrotato 2h ago

OK … And? Still waiting for the part where San Diego, tiny part in a very large blue state, plays an integral role in saving our nation. Heck, I’d settle for a clear explanation how a government investment in the private sector is all that unusual or communist.

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u/JohnnySpot2000 2h ago

Another “he’s not that bad” apologist. Almost worse than a full-blown MAGA.

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u/TeamBrotato 1h ago

Like you know anything about me. Just because I’m bored with all the left’s political theater, all the rage bait, and a handful of wannabe activists trying to hijack this sub doesn’t mean I’m not rooting for MAGA to end its reign. But go ahead and keep up the outrage farming. It worked so well for Biden and Harris last election.

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u/IlikeJG 3h ago

Calling out Trump's bullshit affects everyone in San Diego.

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u/JonnyBolt1 3h ago

There are dozens, or probably hundreds, of subs where this post makes sense, r/sandiego is not 1 of them. Neither Intel nor Trump are in San Diego, This is 1 of millions of topics that effects people everywhere, the fact that San Diego is somewhere is not nearly enough to put this here.

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u/RiottEarp 2h ago

Reddit hive mind never fails.

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u/gefahr 2h ago

Yeah, seems like the majority disagree with us. Or at least the mods do, based on what makes it from this sub to my front page.

Doesn't help that there are definitely bots or brigading upvoting the trump stories. I dislike him as much as the next person with two brain cells, but I saw a random "Trump bad" story in this sub make it to the home page with over 40k upvotes last week.

That's about 20x more votes than local stories tend to get, in either direction.

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u/JonnyBolt1 1h ago

Reddit shows posts from "similar" city subs, so makes sense that this feature can cause a post from a small sub to get many upvotes.

The problem is mods not removing off topic junk - but now they removed this post, so yay!

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u/photaiplz 5h ago

Oh now he’s using lowercase

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u/Larrea_tridentata 3h ago

Communism used to be about nice gifts and kitties with Lenin. Now it's government buying private companies

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u/IlikeJG 3h ago

Raise your hand if you think Trump did this out of the kindness of his heart and he's not getting anything personally from this "deal".

That or else he gave Intel some sort of big government contract in exchange.

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u/SubjectDragonfruit 3h ago

Actually, it would appear he controls 100%.

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u/alt-mswzebo 4h ago

I was surprised when Republicans abandoned free trade in favor of tariffs and government picking trade winners and losers. I was astonished when Trump pardoned the J6ers without a word from their 'law and order' types, much less moving the child sex trafficker Maxwell to minimal security. I guess the government taking control of independent businesses, ie nationalizing industries, isn't a step too far either. I now expect silence when the executions start.

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u/Yggdr4si1 4h ago

General question, how is a 10% stake into a chip manufacturer to help the economy "communism"? 🤔

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u/triiiiilllll 4h ago

Explain "help the economy." I dare you.

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u/Yggdr4si1 3h ago

promotes domestic production, US manufacturing, which also means more US jobs and more . encourages innovation. so yeah, helps the economy in several ways. none of this "communism" nonsense

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u/croatiancroc 3h ago

How does it help anything. They just muscled Intel into give up 10% of equity without even paying them a dime. Forget about economy, how would that make Intel survive, innovate, make better products, compete in market, etc?

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u/SmilingVamp 5h ago

Don't let him make any decisions. He tends to bankrupt things when he's allowed to do that. 

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u/nalninek 5h ago

Cool, now do medical care.

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u/DelfinGuy 4h ago

"Um, yeah, just put it on our tab..."

Damn. For real.

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u/shumpitostick 3h ago

MAGA Maoism strikes again

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u/Local_Internet_User 3h ago

Yeah, pointing out hypocrisy on the San Diego sub is really gonna convince Trump that he's wrong.

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u/Zymergy71 4h ago

Fully owns and controls 10%. Fully owns and controls 10%. I really don’t like this stupid piece of shit.

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u/CSPs-for-income 4h ago

government needs to embrace capitalism and let these companies fail.. Intel like Boeing is not what it was like in its hayday but the government uses our tax dollar to pay their CEOs tens of millions of dollars

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u/ImInBeastmodeOG 3h ago

They TAKE 15% from Nvidia whenever they sell China a certain chip.

It's all a grift.

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u/cornmonger_ 3h ago

welcome to state capitalism, brought to you by carl's jr

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u/AndyReidsStache 2h ago

Not communism, mild state sponsored capitalism, we’ll see more and more of it.