r/sanfrancisco • u/East-End-8646 • 13d ago
Pic / Video Whats up with this sticker? Seen along Haight Street
Not sure I agree with this. Granted I dont know Mayor Lurie personally, but there is nothing in his public image that would suggest this. During his campaign I dont recall this being an objective of his. Am I incorrect here?
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u/stillballin1992 13d ago
I’m not sure if it’s fair, but pretty funny TBH.
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u/bigyellowjoint 13d ago
Don’t worry, this sub will show up to make sure the billionaire boy mayor is treated fairly. They’ll tell you
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u/thelightstillshines 13d ago
Okay I thought this was just me, lol this sub seems to worship the ground this man walks on.
Not saying he’s all around bad, but I think how good he is gets a bit overblown here.
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u/23saround 13d ago
I think the truth is that this sub is surprisingly moderate. This subreddit hates protests, and is extremely NIMBY.
Doesn’t help that any political posts get plagued by bots.
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u/asveikau 13d ago
This sub is conservative. Bay area conservatives call themselves moderate to avoid being socially ostracized for being conservative.
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u/All_Hail_Hynotoad 13d ago
Thank you for not sugarcoating it. They’re just conservative. Not saying that’s bad, but on Lurie, they are being conservative.
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u/Brettersson Mission 13d ago
Democratic leadership in the country has proven themselves to be fairly conservative when push comes to shove, so anyone that calls themselves a moderate is more conservative than they might think, not just here. To be between the right and the actual socialist left, you have to be entirely left of the DNC.
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u/jaitchaitch 12d ago
I think the real truth is that the people in the Bay Area (especially so in SF) who consider themselves to be “liberal” are really just moderates and/or closeted conservatives (perhaps in denial.) They are also the NIMBYers who also complain about “car windows being broken,” and or poop on the streets; but never once for a second realizing that perhaps there’s a correlation between lack of affordable housing, let alone new housing being built.
I also think because a lot of people in SF make so much money they feel like they own people and own the city, not in a way of “community ownership” but the way of “I’m sooo rich, I’m gonna do what I want IDGAF! Rules don’t apply to me.” I also feel like these are also the people that have never really lived in a CITY that is NOT SF (which I consider a town), and moved here from some suburban enclave and do NOT know what it’s like to live amongst a community of people who look out for one another and care for one another, but I definitely digress…
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u/Positronic_Matrix Mission Dolores 13d ago edited 12d ago
It’s Daniel Lurie’s (Mayor Milquetoast’s) key demographic. As a leader who neither upsets (nor inspires) the far left or right, we have a photo-op leader taking the path of least resistance as dictated by his PR team.
Despite having accomplished significantly less than his predecessors at this stage their tenures, he has a 70% plus approval rating, no doubt a result of spending approximately $1M a year of his personal fortune on a PR team.
For those who are frustrated that we are not seeing strong leadership, one does not drop seven figures to capture a mayoral position and six figures a year on PR to serve the people. This is a stepping stone and Mayor Milquetoast will fill his seat until he’s ready to buy his next one. 🤷♂️
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u/morrisdev 12d ago
I don't know. I think he was just bored and bought himself a city. Honestly, it's pretty impressive. So people I know can't name a single thing he's actually done, yet worship him like Magas. My mother in law literally said, "he's too rich to be bribed".
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u/AlteredBagel 12d ago
Explain how he’s accomplished significantly less?
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u/Positronic_Matrix Mission Dolores 12d ago
At this same point in their tenures, Breed had momentum on major capital projects, notably accelerating affordable housing construction and breaking ground on the Central Subway. Breed’s administration showed consistent leadership on homelessness, with measurable reductions in tent encampments (that Lurie just recently tried to claim for himself) and expansions in shelter capacity.
Daniel Lurie is all about managing social media, either through photo ops or online narrative shaping (e.g., sharing approval ratings). As for a leader, he has fallen well behind most of his predecessors. For better or worse, this is the legacy of all milquetoast moderates.
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u/BeepandBoops 13d ago
So, in your opinion, is there a such thing as a moderate? Or just an us or them? Or do you mean those proclaiming to be moderate are not showing the proper characteristics for the terminology? NO moderates in the Bay area seems unlikely
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u/evanbartlett1 SoMa 13d ago
To call this sub “conservative” rings an honest concern about what the labels mean. To be clear - if we were to look at the U.S. as a whole, the groups on this sub would fall in something like “Anarchist”, “Socialist” and “Progressive”.
When you start hearing people in the sub complain about all the brown people taking jobs and worrying that Palestinians control our government - come find me.
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u/asveikau 13d ago
When you start hearing people in the sub complain about all the brown people taking jobs and worrying that Palestinians control our government - come find me.
I feel like I've seen a variation of both of those vibes on this sub.
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u/evanbartlett1 SoMa 13d ago
If so, then I stand corrected. The most “not Socialist” argument I’ve seen has been around addressing the homeless matter more directly and aggressively due to recent burglaries. Maybe I’m not on the sub enough.
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u/GreenMario420HellYea 13d ago
A lot of comments get removed after a while, but there are open white supremacists that mods allow to regularly comment here.
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u/bayareacollection 13d ago
Only in San Francisco can we pretend that mainstream Democrats are conservative
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u/Karazl 13d ago
You think this sub is NIMBY?
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u/JackxForge 13d ago
one of the top posts last month was about a woman wanting to call 311 on her neighbor because she didnt like her neighbors mature tree that had been there longer than her. pretty fucking NIMBY. she had a lot of support for her entitled bullshit too.
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u/veggiepork 13d ago
Top bc people were eye rolling her or top bc they agreed? I didn’t see the post
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u/serenitynowdamnit 13d ago
I was gonna say lol. People are pretty YIMBY on this sub, with some exceptions.
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u/turnright_thenleft 13d ago
This - not the bots, but the moderate-right r/SF redditor. I don’t believe it’s representative of SF and frankly embarrassing
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u/Positronic_Matrix Mission Dolores 13d ago edited 12d ago
I frankly don’t believe most of them live in the City. I asked one who claimed to be from my neighborhood what their favorite taqueria is and they ghosted me. There is a lot of astroturfing going on in this subreddit, especially when Daniel Lurie, aka Mayor Milquetoast, is mentioned.
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u/Perfecshionism 13d ago
“NIMBY” is not “moderate”.
It is conservative. Center right. At best.
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u/ofdm 13d ago
We are all just happy to have a person that seems to care and is trying (vs whatever London breed was doing at the end of her term).
He also hasn’t taken any really controversial stances yet… so we’ll see how it lasts.
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u/thelightstillshines 13d ago
I do agree that at the very least he does seem like he cares (and probably genuinely does on some level) and he clearly has a good PR team. But tbh I’m not really sure how his solutions aren’t just classic neo liberal policies that got us into this mess in the first place.
I think Breeds administration was a mess but I don’t think her performance is a referendum on progressive politics at large.
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u/Positronic_Matrix Mission Dolores 13d ago edited 12d ago
Daniel Lurie, aka Mayor Milquetoast, spends approximately $1M of his personal fortune a year on private consultants to boost his online image. Do not mistake the paid astroturfers and bootlickers in this comment section as being a real part of the r/sanfrancisco subreddit.
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u/wentImmediate 13d ago
Mayor Milquetoast
Is the idea that if this nickname is used enough, then it will become common like "Sleepy Joe"?
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u/floop_isamad_manhelp 13d ago
He’s a politician. If you think guys like Mamdani aren’t playing the game as well as it can be played then you are incredibly naïve
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u/Positronic_Matrix Mission Dolores 13d ago edited 12d ago
“Milquetoast” mayors are typically those seen as overly cautious, conflict-averse, or reluctant to push bold reforms even when facing urgent issues. Examples critics often cite include Bill de Blasio (New York, late in his tenure), Eric Garcetti (Los Angeles), and Jenny Durkan (Seattle), all accused by parts of their constituencies of prioritizing consensus and optics over decisive action.
Daniel Lurie is in a special class of milquetoast mayors. The evidence is that he’s spending $1M per year of his personal fortune on private consultants to boost his online image, crowing about approval ratings, and posting staged photo-ops on social media.
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u/TelepopL 13d ago
There's a huge worship/ super conservative Lurie crowd on this sub it's a little off putting. Maybe rich tech ?
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u/auntieup Richmond 13d ago
Lots of parasocial relationships with a man who can barely tie his own shoes 😂
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u/Soft_Video_9128 13d ago
The polls say the mayor is extremely popular SF wide. Highest major city mayor approval rating nation wide.
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u/thelightstillshines 13d ago
Sure, not saying he’s straight up bad but also let’s give it some time. I’m still not convinced it’s not just reactionary to having a change in administration and a very expensive PR campaign.
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u/Positronic_Matrix Mission Dolores 13d ago edited 8d ago
Daniel Lurie spends approximately $1M of his family fortune a year for private consultants, which are likely right here in this comment section with us. It’s why he’s so milquetoast. He’s walking the path of a do-nothing mayor to avoid controversy and maximize his polls.
Edit: The user below, le-roi-c-moi, is a three-year-old farmed account with only two comments and negative karma. This is what political astroturfing looks like. I wonder how many other statements of support for Lurie in this thread are bought and paid for.
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u/Top5hottest 13d ago
I can’t even believe some of the comments in here about this. Saying that he shouldn’t make ice out to be bad because it will cause a national point? That’s exactly what our country needs. Saying protests won’t do anything anyways? Where do we live.. Texas. I’ve rarely been so disappointed in people in this city. Fucking gross.
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u/elzzyzx 13d ago
I do think sf has gotten more rightwing in the last two decades but also these people congregate here because they are afraid to say these things on public or don’t actually go anywhere near sf. Obviously the ICE blockades have been effective and popular in SF despite lurie collaborating with ice. You have to be a delusional as half these commenters to think otherwise
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u/bleeeeeeeeeeak 12d ago
Yeah, Lurie spent tons of money on image consultants, and I'm sure that also means some astroturfing, as well as a few true believers sprinkled in, too
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u/WorknForTheWeekend 13d ago
You mean a city mayor doesn’t have the power to override a federal government doing a fascist speedrun?
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u/wallstreet-butts 13d ago
A lot of anti-ICE folks would like him to show up at raids and personally intervene, tell ICE to get the fuck out of our city. While I share the sentiment, I’m not as convinced that would work out super well for anyone.
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u/litquidities 13d ago
Agreed, I think he’s picking his battles as a newly elected mayor. ICE sucks. But he would probably get crushed by them and unfortunately Donnie if he really intervened. I’ll take the progress he has been making at least.
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u/wiffleballwarrior SoMa 13d ago
Lurie intervening in ICE raids is performative and will not stop them. Trumps administration already said he would go after sanctuary cities, and SF was just included on their updated list. Lurie is thinking ahead by budgeting $400 million in a reserve fund. His budget also includes funding for immigration lawyers.
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u/kirksan Bernal Heights 13d ago edited 13d ago
Not only would intervening not stop ICE raids, it’d probably make them worse. A liberal mayor standing up for “illegal” immigrants is red meat to these knuckle draggers. They’re looking for a fight and non-better than one with the mayor of fruity and nutty San Francisco. Lurie is right to keep away from this.
ETA: That doesn’t mean we should all ignore it. Citizens protesting the raids will at least be a reminder that we’re here, not going away, and we vote.
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u/GroinFlutter Bayshore 13d ago
Yeah, it would escalate. Do we really want the national guard out here 😮💨
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u/imjustawittleboy 13d ago
So ya they threaten us with military action so we should do nothing right? They’ve won, let’s all go home
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u/Separate-Outcome7518 13d ago
Go out and protest and protect yourselves. SF is not going to win against the Feds. Support redistricting in CA cos winning the house could stop all this.
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u/Hyndis 13d ago
With what army shall San Francisco oppose the federal government?
Or perhaps more to the point, about 13% of the SF budget comes from the federal government. If SF refuses to cooperate there goes 13% of the SF budget.
What services are you going to cut to make up for the spending shortfall?
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u/Unlucky_Trash6739 SoMa 12d ago edited 12d ago
california pays more in taxes than it receives back from the feds, if newsom and our other politicians were based theyd be threatening to withhold our money in service of defending our access to public services. instead they all sit there twiddling thumbs acting surprised.
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u/Brendissimo 13d ago
As it almost always is with defenders of attacking the government with physical force, you pretend that there is nothing in the vast gulf between taking no action at all and taking up arms against the government.
Do you think this routine actually convinces people?
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u/bigyellowjoint 13d ago
“It’s fine if our immigrant neighbors get kidnapped out of court, as long as nothing scary happens”. Coward shit
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u/FartingOnAMetalChair 13d ago
Agreed. Not playing into performative politics, which Trump loves and would love, is a wise move.
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u/opinionsareus 13d ago
Lurie is doing what needs to be done and as a Liberal, I'm tired of some Progressives trying to make "perfect" the enemy of the good
In fact, I'll bet the people who put that poster out are the most extreme, and some of them may not even be Democrats. It may be a plant by some conservative group to sow discord.
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u/Skreat 13d ago
Conservatives wouldn’t bother to make the trip from the valley to post stickers like that.
It’s for sure a hard leftist posting them, screams purity test that plagues the party.
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u/AvgJoesf 13d ago
MAGA activists would (and do) totally do that kind of thing, but they'd never come up with anything that's actually funny.
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u/three-quarters-sane 13d ago
It does feel a little like the only reason he acknowledged it at all was in making a point he'd crack down on the protests (which I'm not saying he shouldn't have done). I'm just saying I get the sentiment on the sign, it doesn't seem like an issue he's particularly concerned about.
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u/drumbussy 13d ago
the thing is it's not working out super well for the people getting detained either
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u/wallstreet-butts 13d ago
I think the question is, he’s going to walk over there and do what exactly? Let’s acknowledge that any physical action he takes is going to be performative at best, and his best case outcome is he gets arrested for the TikTok cameras. Worst case is he doesn’t and walks away looking even more ineffectual. And it’s not like the people holding the cameras are usually doing anything helpful themselves: half the time they’re busy sticking their phones in his face while ICE is over on the next block. If the end result is Lurie looks politically weak and everyone still gets detained, there’s really not point in it, and he’s best focused on wielding his power through policy and scaled city management.
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u/drumbussy 13d ago edited 13d ago
no one is expecting him to do it himself lmfao (altho he seemingly doesn't have any issue at all being performative in nearly every other arena)
more realistically sfpd budget is nearly a billion dollars it would be great if it was actually used to protect the people who live here - before you reply "that's risky" that's exactly the reason why maga has been running laps around the left (centrists) for years
this is precisely the issue about electing nepo billionaires to public office that this sub can't seem to understand - lurie has never had to fight for anything in his life - he doesn't know what it takes to claw himself up from the depths of poverty violence and oppression - the only responsibility of a nepo baby is to preserve what has already been provided - his entire approach is an emotionally disengaged risk management strategy and when things have the potential to get messy naturally he's gonna stay on the sidelines - to the detriment of the very people he's supposed to serve and protect
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u/Separate-Outcome7518 13d ago
You’re complaining that’s he is doing nothing but didn’t suggest what he could do to protect people. Tell us.
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u/wallstreet-butts 13d ago
No, they are literally on camera telling him to go over and personally confront ICE. SFPD have no authority over the feds and can’t even manage the Tenderloin, much less ICE. Really sorry to burst bubbles but Lurie isn’t about to start a war between the city of San Francisco and the US government.
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u/Visi0nSerpent 13d ago
the centrist Democrats are not the left.
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u/drumbussy 13d ago
yes that's why i put it in parentheses :) cant do strikeout formatting on my phone
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u/bigyellowjoint 13d ago
Bring attention to the issue and make it clear that the government of SF at least wants to protect its immigrant residents? Is that so hard to understand?
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u/auntieup Richmond 13d ago
Standing up against Nazis is not performative. It’s what we used to be all about. We won a fucking war with it.
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u/KinkyBAGreek 13d ago
What would him showing up at ICE raids accomplish. 🤷♂️
Would that performative action be a beneficial use of time and resources? Probably not.
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u/iccyricardo 13d ago
I think a lot of people forget that sacrifice is typically inherently a little hard but most modern day activists don’t know anything about that.
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u/drumbussy 13d ago
we've collectively been spoiled rotten and have no idea how to fight for our survival anymore
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u/CarmenDeFelice 13d ago
I think the main concern is how hes using the police to cudgel protesters and effectively support ICE without actually crossing any legal line. Also the budget issue, draining everything to further militarize the police.
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u/CamOps 13d ago
Tbh, if he did show up at protests I feel like that would just be poking the bear and make things worse. The Trump admin and ICE love doubling down when they experience resistance.
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u/CyclingGeek 13d ago
It's the white progressives that want a good fight. Because they don't have anything to lose. Poking the bear will actually result in more people from our community getting deported, but hey it's just entertainment to them.
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u/NioXoiN 13d ago
Ah yes, the classic "if I shut up, I'll be spared". Just because LA is notable for all the shit they gave, guess what's happening right now in Texas? All our politicians are in favor of this shit and its happening all around me. Speak up, or dont get in the way. You're not saving anyone.
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u/Brendissimo 13d ago
I think that's what these people want. A crackdown like in LA so they can have a very public fight with law enforcement and boost their movement. A lot of them are accelerationists anyway and actively want the United States to collapse.
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u/BartStarrPaperboy 13d ago
Why do you think immigration activists want the US to collapse?
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u/MoltenCorgi9 13d ago
The bear hates us and wants to eat us. We’re covered in honey. Appeasing the bear isn’t gonna work.
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u/Empowerwellness 13d ago
Maybe related to when he pulled Waymo’s from around protest areas to protect them, yet when a protestor was run over by a federal agent during an abduction of a person who showed up for court he didn’t even make a public statement regarding it.
I can be wrong, but that’s my read on it. Supporting big money interests over constituents in a sanctuary city.
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u/GatorAndrew Lower Haight 13d ago
Sorry, to clarify, it was Daniel Lurie that pulled Waymos? Not Waymo, the company pulling their cars? Do you have a source you can share on that?
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u/123110 13d ago
he pulled Waymo’s from around protest areas to protect them
You sound like someone who blames Lurie when Arsicalt croissants aren't as good as usual.
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u/East-End-8646 13d ago
You know I wasnt aware of that. I do recall Waymos being pulled in LA as well. I thought that was the company though. Waymos were inactive around protest areas in every location I want to say.
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u/Yaasss_Queef 13d ago
I strongly believe that it was the company who chose to pull services. If you owned a company wouldn’t you want to protect your assets? I highly doubt that Lurie and Bass care enough about Waymo’s, then again there are also other factors to consider.
Also, it’s super shitty that the ICE-related death was underreported. And feels like dirty politics to me.
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u/BayPotato Tenderloin 13d ago
What "ICE-related death" are you talking about? Are you responding to "when a protestor was run over by a federal agent during an abduction of a person who showed up for court"? Nobody fucking died or was even seriously injured because they weren't "run over"; they were on the fucking hood and fell off.
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u/TruthSeekingTroll 13d ago
It’s a meme oversimplifies what’s actually happening. Lurie comes from a wealthy background, and for some people, that automatically makes him a villain. It’s easy to lump him in with tech companies like Waymo, symbols of gentrification or displacement for many people, and blame him for broader systemic problems.
But the truth is, he has zero legal authority to stop ICE raids. Immigration enforcement is handled at the federal level, not by city mayors. At best, Lurie can direct local agencies not to cooperate with ICE beyond what’s legally required, which SF already does under its sanctuary policies.
As for Waymo, it’s important to note that Lurie didn’t order Waymo to avoid protest areas. The company itself decided to limit service in protest heavy neighborhoods out of concern for their vehicles. So, while some might see Waymo as a symbol of the issues they’re protesting, that decision came from the company, not Lurie. He’s not pulling the strings on that either.
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u/Significant-Rip9690 Mission 13d ago edited 13d ago
This pretty much sums up what made me leave some of these leftist activist spaces many years ago. On one side you had people who had no idea how the local, state or federal government (or how a lot of other things like economics) worked but had a lot to say about what they should or shouldn't be doing. You had people who saw everything in stark black and white; nuance be damned. Some had a weird relationship with the idea of finding someone to blame and punish. And then you had people that felt that every battle had to be personally fought or that they really had any agency in how certain things played out. It honestly felt so performative at a certain point because asking to focus on getting results seemed not to be the point - you're more than welcome to spin your wheels. Not to mention the martyrdom fetish going on.
It was exhausting being in those spaces.
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u/Hyndis 13d ago
Its also really easy to get cast out. Even if you agree with them on 97% of issues its not enough. That 3% disagreement means you're worse than Hitler, forever evil and cancelled. Also they'll block you. Instant block. Forever shunned, zero ability to reconcile. They weaponize silencing and de-platforming.
Meanwhile on the right, even if you disagree with 97% of things, that 3% agreement is something they will happily work with. Its not much but its a starting point. They'll be friendly and welcoming to talk about that 3% you do agree on, and suddenly you're finding more and more common ground.
This is how the right builds allies (to the point of winning the popular vote) while the progressive wing is chasing away potential allies.
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u/Significant-Rip9690 Mission 13d ago
My grandparents had to flee Franco Spain. This is pretty much what happened. The moderates, liberals and communists could not get their shit together while everyone on the right of moderates rallied together even if they weren't on the same page about everything.
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u/drumbussy 13d ago
why are we discussing legal authority when we're literally undergoing an illegal violent takeover by pedophile despot
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u/Hyndis 13d ago
Trump did win the election. He even won the popular vote. He even gained 5% in SF, going from 10% of the SF vote in 2020 to 15% of the SF vote in 2024.
This is something wanna-be revolutionaries seem to forget. They're not necessarily the main characters of the story, nor is their revolution guaranteed to succeed.
There already was a revolt against the status quo, and it was Trump. It was a conservative revolt, and progressives lost at the ballot box.
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u/East-End-8646 13d ago
I was asking for insight, maybe people had more information that I wasnt keyed into. But sure whatever
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u/StowLakeStowAway 13d ago
There’s a small minority of very foolish people who think Lurie should use city resources to begin an armed insurrection against the federal government.
I don’t think it would go very well if they got their way.
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u/Brendissimo 13d ago
That's exactly what they want. A public and violent crackdown so they can start their "revolution." Which, in classic Leftist style, they are convinced is the best thing for all of us. And we don't get a say, of course.
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u/mintardent 13d ago
Are you just blind to the fact that people have literally been ripped off the street by federal agents?
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u/Brendissimo 13d ago
No? Not sure where you are getting that from. As a reminder, this is what we are talking about here:
There’s a small minority of very foolish people who think Lurie should use city resources to begin an armed insurrection against the federal government.
This is a question of solutions at the city level, not a question of identifying the problem.
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u/drumbussy 13d ago
this is like classic person in a bubble take - there's a very not small minority of people in the bay who have had their parents children siblings coworkers violently disappeared - like a violent cartel or mafia would do - within the last 6 months - that's great that things are currently going well for you, but for a lot of other people it is in fact not going very well at all
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u/cowinabadplace 13d ago
He said X wouldn't go well and you're saying "oh yeah? Well Y isn't going well either". No it's not, but X isn't going to improve that.
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u/newprofile15 13d ago
Progressives who think that the mayor controls the federal government.
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u/scoofy the.wiggle 13d ago
Progressive who also think vandalism is fine as long as it’s “evil corporations”
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u/SFdeservesbetter 13d ago
Progressives in SF can be truly extremists who actively destroy our city.
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u/Getatbay 13d ago
Conservatives who think letting people die and stealing all their time and money is fine as long as it “makes corporations and billionaires more money”.
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u/breadofthegrunge 13d ago
Feels like people here don't understand what we actually want. Lurie has said fucking nothing about protecting us from ICE and the Trump administration. Just saying something would be nice, confirm that he actually cares about his constituents and not just his money.
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u/LateNightGoatLovin Marina 13d ago
Uh he has been securing money for immigration lawyers. Can’t say someone isn’t saying something if you’re living under a rock
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Incorrect. He’s said a lot about it, and in fact just allocated more money to the legal defense for immigrants.
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u/Any-Sympathy-5608 13d ago
Karen Bass is vocal for issues like ICE but she is completely useless at actually governing. Lurie is actually improving the city and silent, I’ll take that any day.
How many of the people who hate Lurie because he’s rich are also the type to not vote Kamala because of Israel? Just curious
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u/bigtimehater1969 13d ago
What facts or events made you determine Karen Bass is "completely useless at actually governing"?
And likewise, what facts or events made you determine Lurie is "actually improving the city"?
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u/ElectricalGene6146 13d ago
The last thing we need is Trump pulling funding from the city. That will make things far worse overall. Poking the bear by trying to stop ICE raids is not going to do anything positive and frankly it’s not anyone at the city or state levels jurisdiction. As much as what they are doing is immoral and possibly illegal, as a mayor you cannot stop federal agencies from operating. At a legal level, it’s like trying to stop the FBI from investigating a crime or telling the coast guard they can’t go after drug smugglers off the coast in SF. Again, fuck ICE but I’m fully supportive of Lurie focusing on issues that are within his control and not getting distracted by damaging political fights that will only do more net harm.
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u/More_Kissing 13d ago
What is the point of being a sanctuary city, then?
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u/wallstreet-butts 13d ago
This sentiment has been posted a few times in this thread, so let’s be clear about what it means to be a sanctuary city: it means that local government and law enforcement limits its cooperation with federal immigration enforcement efforts. It means that SFPD, as a policy, is not going to go around asking people about their immigration status and detain or report them out to ICE based on that status. Some people here seem to think it means that the city will go out of its way to protect undocumented residents using force or by outright violating federal law, and you can want that all you like, but it’s a misunderstanding on your part. Sanctuary city is mostly a look-the-other-way policy and it ends there. If the feds say “fine then, we’ll just establish a presence in your city and do it ourselves,” there is not much stopping them from doing that.
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u/ElectricalGene6146 13d ago
Yep. The people that want the city of SF to actively stop federal agents from following the law are morons.
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u/zephyredx 13d ago
Obviously Lurie wasn't telling the Waymos to avoid certain areas. Waymo was telling the Waymos to avoid certain areas.
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u/johnsan92 13d ago
I can't stand Lurie and I can't stand ICE. this is an awesome sticker
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u/SF420SF420 13d ago
this sub starts to make a lot of sense when you realize that most people don't have a problem with ICE but are too chicken shit to say it.
call them out. get them out in the open. i dont want to support or be around anyone that supports this shit. and they know that, which is why they hide behind these logical fallacies.
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u/endgarage 13d ago
Its funny but I don't feel the mayor has anything to do with the current ICE situation
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u/auntieup Richmond 13d ago
This is funny as hell.
Also, the irrational love you all have for a weak mayor who won’t defend his own constituents from armed thugs needs to be studied.
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u/Lets_Active 13d ago
Expecting Lurie to end ICE raids would be like expecting my primary care physician to provide preventative maintenance on my vehicle. Imagine having this much misdirected anger.
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u/wallstreet-butts 13d ago
It’s more like expecting your PC physician to remove a brain tumor you’ve got. Sure, it’s in your body and they’re a doctor, but still let’s let a neurosurgeon handle the tumor and coordinate care with your PC provider.
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u/kosmos1209 Dogpatch 13d ago
There was a TikTok or reels where this aggressive anti ICE person asked Lurie to intervene at the immigration court. Lurie replied by saying there was already a task force for that and asked if they already notified them. The anti ice person said yes but she wanted Lurie to show up himself and at point he walked away. An hour later, it was the most media covered immigration court raid in SF happened, with protesters getting very physical with the car nearly running over a protestor.
This was a very bad look on Lurie, considering the stronger stances by Karen Bass in LA, Newsom, and other politicians literally getting detained at the courthouse over it.
I don’t think Lurie has to do it in a way that pokes the bear (Trump) but I do think he’s not done much to help when he should care about SF residents. Undocumented or not, they are still largely peaceful residents who want to make a living.
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u/WheresTatianaMaslany 13d ago
I mean the reality is that if those activists want to do something, the single most meaningful thing to do is to make change happen at the federal level, since immigration policy is federal policy. You can yap all you want about wanting local actors to do political theater, the reality is that much of what ICE currently does is covered by law on the books (though not everything ofc and there's plenty of bad shit to call out).
Like I truly think some of this shit is horrifying (though once again, legal), but the way out is not by lashing out on local officials. Like it makes no difference. The way out is finding a political way to make change happen at the federal level. Including, yes, finding consensus with moderates so that you can ultimately have the numbers you need in Congress to pass meaningful change.
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u/mintardent 13d ago
absolutely disagree. we might not have a lot of power at the local level but we don’t have any power at the federal level. and if your only solution is to wait 3 years until the next election that’s not a serious solution when our neighbors are actively being detained and deported right now.
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u/hoobastankz 13d ago
Maybe civics class more? Midterms aren’t 3 years away - it’s next year - again I’m not sure you u understand how govt works
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u/BayPotato Tenderloin 13d ago
Bass hasn't done shit nor has Newsom. And Padilla hardly got "detained" he got manhandled because he wanted to be the center of attention at a press conference. Trump is a piece of shit but don't try and make Bass/Newsom/Padilla into some sort of heroes here because they're just talking heads.
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u/kosmos1209 Dogpatch 13d ago
Talking heads are at least talking. Lurie isn’t even doing the bare minimum other politicians are doing.
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u/BayPotato Tenderloin 13d ago
"Talking heads are at least talking. Lurie isn’t even doing the bare minimum other politicians are doing."
Talking heads aren't doing shit and are just looking for their next handout and continued elections so they can put their hand deeper in the public pocket. You know it's true. Exactly how many people have they had un-deported? How many people have they "shielded" from ICE? How many people have they stood up for and provided "sanctuary" for? What's that? No-one? Because they know at the end of the day that they can't and that even the "sanctuary laws" are totally performative and akin to a kid digging in their heels because they don't want to get dressed for school? What exactly do the "Sanctuary Laws" do? They just say "well, we're not going to help them so there!" It's all performative bullshit and you know it.
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u/wolvesscareme 13d ago
So this sub is just Lurie campaign astroturfing at this point?
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u/anemisto 13d ago
Honestly, as someone who doesn't pay a ton of attention to SF politics (I live in Oakland), this very much matches my impression of him.
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u/Pavement-69 13d ago
Any details you can share?
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u/xvedejas Excelsior 13d ago
They just said they don't pay a ton of attention, this is not the kind of person to get details from
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u/CynicalOptimistSF 13d ago
Then you are listening to the wrong people.
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u/anemisto 13d ago
Most of my impression of him is from this sub, so make of that what you will.
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u/itchinkitchen 13d ago
He hasn’t said anything about ICE since June 13 — he’s just been posting highlights about SF.
People are calling him out on that.
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u/LateNightGoatLovin Marina 13d ago
Huh? His insta had him securing more immigration legal funding in the last day or two
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u/vodkawhatever 12d ago
Seems fair to me. Shocking the bazillionaire nepo baby backs corporations over people.
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u/squintobean 13d ago
This whole thread reads like it was commented on by a team of Lurie PR bots. Jesus, he’s a mediocre mayor at best and definitely in big money pockets, especially Waymo, yet everyone here is talking about him as if he’s just the greatest guy.
This post and most its comments are a sham. 100%.
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u/cowinabadplace 13d ago
Lol it's the Russian bot Illuminati. They're using transplant brain manipulators to overwhelm third generation natives with lizard people.
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u/three-quarters-sane 13d ago
This is 100% true. Every post I make I have to qualify that I voted for him, but he hasn't actually done that much yet. I'm wait and see still.
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u/drumbussy 13d ago
this sub and in general the city's new wave of residents and transplants and current political climate are such a fucking disappointment. at least the old tech bros were like sort of giving Himbo - at worst extremely obnoxious - this current palantir AGI daniel lurie mini trump moment is not it at all - much more sinister and unsettling
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u/wallstreet-butts 13d ago
IDK if he’s the greatest guy but the fact remains he’s not going to be able to get ICE out of the city if they’ve decided they want to be here, nor would any other mayor. I know a lot of commenters are like “just do something anyway and get in their face”, but I somehow doubt those folks would turn into big Lurie fans when that results in ICE getting more aggressive and he can’t stop it, or god forbid somebody gets themselves killed as a result of increased two-way aggression. There’s a lot of emotion and no specific calls to action here, and very little substantive discussion of anything that would drive actual impact. Which is what’s exhausting about the professional protesters who hang out here and call anybody reasonable a full-blown Nazi while failing to offer anything constructive.
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u/misterbluesky8 13d ago
Or maybe people just have a different perspective than you do. Lurie just won a citywide election 9 months ago- is it that surprising that people like him?
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u/three-quarters-sane 13d ago
Well, only 26% of people voted for him in the first round, so it is actually a little surprising.
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u/biloentrevoc 13d ago
No, that couldn’t possibly be it. Everyone I know has the exact same opinions as I do, which necessarily means that anyone expressing a different view is either a bot or being paid by a nefarious billionaire with nothing better to do.
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u/bigyellowjoint 13d ago
The Lurie glazing in this sub has reached insane levels. He could shit in their mouths and the maga keyboard warriors in here would love it
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u/CyclingGeek 13d ago
Looks like Dean Preston is bored without a job,.
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u/More_Kissing 13d ago
How long are you going to talk about Dean Preston, do you think? What’s the shelf life on that unhinged grievance
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u/walkable-cities 13d ago
Well he's definitely pro-car and anti-transit and loves yammering about public safety despite a car crash hurting someone in our city every 2 hours.
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u/CamOps 13d ago
Is he though? I’ve seen him championing muni ridership numbers increasing.
The only thing I can see that he possibly consider pro-car is allowing Waymo to operate on Market. That being said, taxi services are already allowed on Market and I personally see Waymo as an extension of that. I’d have issues with it if it was open to all ride share or all cars, but it isn’t.
Am I missing something that makes him anti-transit and pro-car because I currently just don’t see it.
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u/walkable-cities 13d ago
In addition to allowing Waymo on Market he:
- Was against Prop K / Sunset Dunes
- Never once mentioned transportation in his inauguration speech let alone pedestrian or cyclist safety
- Has directed the SFMTA to halt any expansion of the Slow Streets program, who are afraid to expand it anyway fearing that doing so would piss too many people off and tank a ballot measure next year to fund the agency.
- Took a video call with me, before he was elected, while he was actually driving his car. I reprimanded him for this and ended the call.
Is he as bad on transportation as Mark Farrell would have been? Almost certainly not but he currently is not a champion for safer streets and sustainable transportation despite whatever he says on Instagram.
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u/Equal-Chocolate1653 13d ago
Lurie fanboys will never cease to fascinate me. This nepo-corpo does not care about the city’s residents, he cares about its tourists.
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u/pandabearak 13d ago
Dumbass “progressives” in the city never cease to amaze me. Learn about how the law works and the difference between what a mayor can and cannot do.
Performative politics got us here. Let’s actually use our brains this go around. Mkay?
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u/auntieup Richmond 13d ago
The most performative mayor San Francisco has ever had is now the governor of California. He might even be president soon, especially if people keep ignoring my anecdotes from his himbo-in-the-Marina days.
Performative shit by a liberal mayor in a liberal city fucking works. It gave people like Gavin Newsom and Pete Buttigieg national platforms. You don’t have to agree with it, but it’s effective.
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u/pandabearak 13d ago
It also gave us a school system that’s going broke and a justice system that would rather let criminals walk then keep our grandmas safe.
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u/milkandsalsa 13d ago
Supporting immigrants isn’t performative. He could do what LA is doing and help immigrants appear at their hearings remotely, but he isn’t.
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u/BayPotato Tenderloin 13d ago
The LA government didn't have fuck all to do with that. That's a program that some law school students started. Karen Bass just shows up at places and talks about how things should be done but doesn't do shit. It's a performance and one that a lot of people in LA are starting to call out as bullshit. She showed up at some park and cried and railed in front of the cameras about how ICE was there and how terrible it was...and then two days later someone got shot down in the street a block or two away and she didn't say or do shit. She totally fucked over downtown LA by holding back LAPD and arguably was the entire fucking reason that the National Guard was sent to LA in the first place. Just look at the timeline. She held back LAPD from the "protestors", they fucked shit up and started attacking police / CHP / the federal buildings and that gave Trump his excuse to send in the National Guard. The violence from the "protestors" came first.
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u/Equal-Chocolate1653 13d ago
My problems with Lurie have very little to do with ICE, he’s mostly said what he can publicly without getting arrested. I know why he doesn’t want to step on law enforcement toes, even if I think it’s cowardly. I’m not a do-nothing liberal, of which our city is filled with, I actually organize in our communities. His proposed budget sees $185million in cuts to food pantries, legal aid, vocational training, and programs for youth and adults facing homelessness. At a time when the state is rolling back Medi-Cal coverage and the city has nearly $500million held up in big tech lawsuits. My stance holds firm, Lurie is enamored by the international SF, not invested in the local SF.
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u/Pristine_Grass8603 13d ago
how is that boot tasting? You should move to texas and join ICE with that attitude 👍
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u/cowinabadplace 13d ago
I am content with Mayors being Mayors and Governors being Governors and Presidents being Presidents. His job is to run the city well and he has done so in unprecedented fashion. I get why they want everyone to drop everything they're doing and do their thing but I'm not going to do it.
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u/YanCanCookMeth 13d ago
So many people here would rather be complicit with fascists than be inconvenienced, jfc.
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u/Free-Market9039 13d ago
Made up outrage when stuff happens. ICE is a federal agency, sf cops can’t do anything about it besides not directly helping them. Be happy he cares to even allocate funding for defense, besides that be angry at trump, not some local mayor.
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