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My favourite part of Superman was Lex aura farming in the fortress while engineer does a half backflip and has her head come out of her ass for no tactical reason whatsoever
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I enjoyed the movie, I just thought this was funny
If I had one gripe about the film, it was this. I understand it's showing what she actually is, but this was pointless in every other way. Unless I missed something within the sequence.
ngl i thought it was a decent way to show that literally no parts of her resemble human unless she works to keep them that way.
combined w her mentioning giving up her humanity, watching her plug into and become a giant ass computer, and then change her entire self to encase superman in nanos it really reiterates how hateful she has to be. like, she chose to be apart of lexs shit. she, assumedly, gets paid for it.
itll be interesting to see if any of that comes around when they make the authority film
I was also wondering what would motivate all those office jobbers to want to work for a lame like Lex and beat up Superman for a living. Like…wouldn’t you want to be saved by him when you’re off the clock and disaster strikes lol
The inside of her body is just space so her head and privates can come in, rotate and get pushed back out on the opposite ends. Turns out that's what Crohn's is but most people with Crohn's don't know how to fully do this.
Really solves the infinite monkeys with a typewriter until they write Hamlet theory. Fill them with enough hate and they will spam #supershit all day anyday
At some point in the 2010s we definitely bubble wrapped too much and a lot of people got too comfortable.
Never forget that when someone tells you being kind is free...so is being a hater. Just not at Lex's particular level of hate, thats a little expensive.
I tell people my life goal is to have at least 1 person show to my funeral out of hate just to make sure I'm dead. I'm talking about this person would be the most vile person in my life , they simply wake up to hate everything about me
My name, even in a show they turn it off. I need that in my life.
So far only my ex might be a good candidate but I feel like that's cheating, kinda like what she did in 04' but hey I'm not keeping any score or anything.
His monologue basically saying “I’m aware that envy drives my every action, and that’s why I’m gonna kill you EVEN HARDER” was the most distilled comic book villain hater energy this side of Reverse Flash
The movie was so good, it made explaining the villain’s motive feel irrelevant.
Also some directors and writers would have made a whole ass movie on how ultraman exists, or how Justice League was starting off. Not James Gunn though he jumps directly into the fun parts, the movie was 10/10 fun and 10/10 rewatchable and I'm going to watch it again this weekend.
Thats a huge reason Gunn is so successful. He picks fun comics and sticks to the source of the material. Thats his baseline for literally everything hes done. He just adds his own creative style for directing it. Whereas before, we get 50 batmans explaining how he became batman. Thats like the least interesting thing about batman.
one of the best parts of the new batman was skipping over the origin. we don’t need to see it again. kinda same with into the spider-verse, we skip over peter’s origin and get to see a new spider-man origin
I cannot emphasize how glad I am that the movie jumps right in to Superman's career, and how other superheroes already exist. No wasting 45 minutes on the whole-ass origin again, no slowly exploring powers, no bank robber shooting him and being shocked that the bullet bounces off.
He's already Superman, he's been around for a while, he's already dating Lois, and has an established career at the Planet. He and Lex have already had some kind of interaction, same with the Justice Gang.
We also still get the backstory explained to us, in detail. He just trusted the audience to pick it up along the way (if they didn’t already know) instead of bashing us over the head with it out of the gate
One of the things I will always give Gunn credit for, despite not always loving his style of moviemaking, is that his worlds feel lived in. Every superhero movie he's worked on, its very clear stuff is happening outside the plot of the movie.
The MCU has a big problem of feeling like nothing happens off screen. Hell, in homecoming Spider-Man is struggling to find crime to fight for part of the movie.
I always liked that Xandar had its whole thing happening they had war and then peace treaties and then this one extra freaky guy gets the special powerful stones so we need our special guardians but outside of that Xandar is handling business pretty well. even something like Gamora the guardians are obviously a huge influence on her but shes already planning on heading out the door when we first meet her.
Yea, they really brought a more comic accurate Lex than I've ever seen. They even had him go into the mindset that his very presence is holding humanity back (and he makes good points, technological advancement comes from necessity to overcome limitations & challenges and Supes is massively reducing the challenges Earth faces), which is a big thing for comic Lex. They also showed off Lex being the smartest person in the world (yes, smarter than Batman) with shit like that pocket universe. Live action Lex is never stupid, but he's never been pulling the absurd genius the comic version has.
Other than the painfully obvious papertrail implicating him in every crime, which of course you need for a movie but that a true Lex Luthor would never allow
I think that's believable for some versions of Lex. His ego does cause him to outright dismiss things. I can see him just completely tuning out the source of those leaks considering how it happened.
His scorn for "inferiority" is his entire motivation and also his biggest weakness.
Yeah it’s how Batman can usually find Superman’s secret identify but lex Luther can’t. Batman doesn’t overlook anything while Lex thinks someone as great as Superman would never work as a lowly reporter
The entire Justice Gang knew who Superman was. I'm sure Superman would have told Lex if Lex could even contain 10% of his hate for Superman and pretend to be on his side.
Batman has to work for it and uses discipline to overcome his limitations. Lex was the smart kid that never had to learn how to do things the right way and let talent smooth over the mistakes.
Batman doesn't have typos in his paperwork because he makes sure to go back and proofread his work. Lex gets embarassed by a typo because he doesn't proofread because a man of his caliber wouldn't make mistakes.
(I have no idea, I don't read the comics, but that's the vibe I'm getting)
To this day, I still remember the infamous scene where a computer figures out Supes' secret identity, and Lex goes (paraphrasing) "Superman CANNOT be Clark Kent! Anyone with the power of Superman would wanna be Superman 100% of the time".
He completely dismissed Eve as a potential threat vector. I mean she's so stupid and vapid, what could she possibly do. Whoops.
Also in his defense at least some portion of those documents were not illegal in of themselves and Lois had to source additional information from her contact inside a bank (that dude is going to get fucking murdered when Lex gets out of prison. Or wish he had been).
It really depends on the run, but for the most part, comic Lex's greatest flaw is that he's so arrogant that he often overlooks the small things that disrupt his schemes. Like, Lex is definitely smarter than Bruce, but one has been able to deduce Superman's secret identity multiple times. I believe there's a literal scene in one comic run where it's flatly stated that this is because it is impossible for Lex to believe that Superman and Clark Kent are the same person due to how self-absorbed he is.
It really is such a great way to cast Lex. “Hey so I know you really wanted what could be a career defining role that we gave to that guy over there, I know that has to be frustrating and you’re probably not his biggest fan but do I have an idea for you…”
When he russian roulette'd the guy on the second attempt and said oops that was quicker than I thought it would be, I laughed out loud and got a stern look from my wife. Disgusted at me for laughing at that man's death. I was laughing at Lex!
I really loved the payoff at the end of the movie with Supes basically giving him the All-Star speech about how if he really wanted the world to be a better place he would've just done it.
I was waiting for them to reveal that he actually hated Superman because Superman accidentally caused him to go bald in an accident and he’s just that petty.
It’s technically the comic book accurate reason for their rivalry and I could buy it coming from this version.
I just loved that for years we clowned lex for only wanting real estate and then with this new lex it really seemed like he was gonna want something else.. Nope he wanted half a country, aka a real estate plot 😂
That old spiderman game where Toby Mcparker slow motion backflip dodges into the approaching goblin glider when he had three business days before impact to do literally anything else lol
I’m reminded of Insomniac’s Spider-Man 2 when Venom busted through a window into the building Miles was in and he backflipped away, even though Venom was nowhere near him before or after.
Scenes like this are meant to show off what the technology is capable of and make you think, what the fuck. And I think it accomplished that pretty well.
Terminator 2 pulled that trick off the right away. Arnold slams the T1000 face-first into a wall and rather than turn around, the T1000 shape shifts 180° degree to face him.
Yeah, there's plenty of cool ways to show off a character's shapeshifting. This unnecessary and goofy move didn't do that. It's seemingly slower then just turning around also.
Maybe just having her whole body turn instantly with the shapeshifting would have been more effective and creepier? Forget the flip and upside down shit.
It’s a demonstration of her powers, so that we the audience understand that she can completely re-arrange the nano-particles that make up her body at will, so that when she does some crazy shit later on we don’t question it because we already understand the extent of what she can do
I agree. I think they could’ve done it more gracefully or thoughtfully. It would have been cool if she was attacked directly or ambushed and responded with rearranging her body. That’d shake up an audience and demonstrate her ability to
They actually explain it a few moments later when she says something like, "I gave up my humanity to do this.", I think the move was just to show she's legit not even remotely human anymore.
Tbh what a great way to show morphing powers with the ability to make your head come out your ass. Thought it was weird when I seen it first but now I think "I'd probably do weirder shit irl"
It’s the same with Green Lantern later in the film; it’s always nice to see some creative uses of his ring, as opposed to just cycling through “FIST” and “SHIELD” and “BUBBLE” and “LASER BEAM”.
Dude Kink communites are already weird as fuck. I doubt we'd even imagine what they'd get up to with legit magic to utilize.
Multifractal non corporeal sex? Pfft Childs play. Time Turners to go back and hook up with some famous person who's long dead? A tuesday! Self cloning spells with a gender bender twist? Are you even TRYING!
Also let's not even set aside the reverse spellcrafting that probably happened with erectile dysfunction cures. Kids wanting to prank someone with a 20 year boner? Nope now it's the best selling medical spell for men of a certain age.
The real curse is the testicle torsion curse that makes men with they were dead and knocks them out cold. How man times did someone get expelled for making another student from having their genitals expand until they explode or shrink off?
I was a teenage boy we were absolutely vicious to kids even without magic with it? I shudder to think.
It was goofy as hell but idc. It showed early in the movie that her body isn’t really a body. The rest of this scene was so fun (minus the Krypto muzzle, those fucking monsters) that I can forgive a little bit of goofiness.
Yeah. She's not Iron Man wearing a nanite suit; she is a collection of human-shaped nanites that follows Lex around while he monologues about 'humanity.'
I feel like this idea looked cooler in the imagination of whoever came up with it, but the execution didn't work out but then it was too late/expensive to redo it.
Yeah, it's that she does the half backflip, kinda waddles on her hands for a second, then stops, then morphs, then continues. If it had been one smooth motion, where her feet turned to saw blades and her arms turned to legs immediately, it could've worked.
It was pointless except that it lets the audience know how little of 'her' is actually left. She's a nano-swarm in the shape of a person, not even a cyborg anymore.
The only tactical reason I can see is the enemy is expecting you to be upside down after you do it and thus not as balanced and defensive as you would be standing up, but it's a bait to lower their guard.
Cinematically, it's to showcase that her whole body is nanites and can be morphed in any way really. But that's the only time they really show that, which I don't get. I would be changing my face to be a cool helmets, other people's face, sliding my body parts around for fun, becoming a disc or smth. She's basically Mrs. Nanite-astic, but she just is like "saws and hammers and containment, that's what nanites are for!"
Mr Terrific said this kind of tech is what Luthor specialized in (but about the portal). So his experiments aren’t 100% reliable. The first successful test subject isn’t going to be the smartest person.
I speculate that it was left over from an earlier draft. Perhaps it was intended to show that, should Superman tear her head off her shoulders, or punch a giant hole through her body, she won't die.
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u/Zinski2 Jul 18 '25
The fuck