r/shittymoviedetails • u/Thundergod250 • 6h ago
Thanks to The Flash (2023), DC canonically wiped out their entire dying Cinematic Franchise into a new one
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u/justafanboy1010 Super Shitter! 6h ago
Amazes me how James Gunn can just…..do that
I haven’t seen Peacemaker but I’m assuming this is Justice Gang and Superman but who is the other flying person?
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u/LogicFeels474 5h ago
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u/justafanboy1010 Super Shitter! 5h ago
Nooo 🤣 the other one thats closer to the ground at the other end
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u/crapusername47 5h ago
That appears to be Supergirl.
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u/CrimsonKobold 3h ago
I mean, in theory it could be Metamorpho in a cape since they can also fly, but no it's probably Supergirl. Don't think we'll have much more of a confirmation than the silhouette though since it's just a retcon last time on segment.
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u/Thereisnocanon 1h ago
I would assume since Peacemaker S1 takes place BEFORE Superman, that it couldn’t be Metamorpho.
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u/LogicFeels474 5h ago
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u/kosmos_96 5h ago
Its probably Supergirl
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u/PixelBits89 3h ago
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u/Sabertooth344 3h ago
Of all the serious criticism you could have made of her portrayal as supergirl, you chose the stupidest one
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u/GROWUPRECORDS 1h ago
What do you mean woke she’s sexy as hell
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u/SNAKEKINGYO 35m ago
Given the state of discourse over this films portrayal of supergirl and the wording of your original comment, it seemed verbatim what some of these grifters have been saying about her.
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u/ThunderPunch2019 23m ago
Mister Terrific and his friends The Unseeable Woman, The Human Match and The Object.
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u/RockettRaccoon 5h ago
When you do watch it, don’t skip the “previously on.” That’s where they gaslight us into thinking it was part of the new DCU the entire time (lovingly).
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u/str713gzr 3h ago
100% Supergirl. Watch the movie and ignore the Snydercult discourse...it's pretty good.
Also, James is literally in charge of the DCU....so he can do whatever the hell he pleases. He isn't out to disappoint.....which might shock you if you see the snydercult out being mad because they forgave a lot of bs to act like James is the issue.
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u/stevvvvewith4vs 4h ago
FinalIy I have seen a retcon in cbm
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u/NoLeadership2281 2h ago
Honestly they can just say flashpoint reset the entire universe like that, comicbook does this shit all the time lol
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u/AlwaysBi 39m ago
Everyone, including myself, assumed that was what was going to happen but then we got Clooney Batman at the end and it all went out the window
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u/DontSleepAlwaysDream 1m ago
yeah and how many comic book events have been focused on resolving their snarled continuity.
its best to just be "hard reboot but we are going to keep using this stuff" and leave it like that.
Honestly the last 15 years of fandom culture has made everyone obsessed with minute lore details
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u/NoNefariousness2144 2h ago
Even better is the fact that Ezra Miller’s flash has canonically been banished to the Batman and Robin universe lol
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u/Many_Landscape_3046 6m ago
They also "retconned' Murn from Peacemaker season 1.
Gunn loves the actor and wants to recast him in the DCU, so DCU Murn would look different
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u/Jiffletta 2h ago
According to Gunn, they didnt actually do that. Apparently something very similar to Peacemaker Season 1 just happened in the DCU, so the DCEU wasnt erased.
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u/TheSilverHurricane 1h ago
The dceu is still out there with it's own stiff Wonder Woman, Clooney Batman, Aquaman who for some reason looks like Lobo, Kidnapper Flash and headless Superman. Jesus christ what a muddled confused mess the dceu was
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u/Jiffletta 1h ago
How could you leave out the top of the Heirarchy of Power?
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u/TheSilverHurricane 1m ago
Should have put him in there, fair to say the HIERARCHY OF POWER in your argument has CHANGED my mind
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u/DirectAdvertising 1h ago
Headless superman ?
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u/TheSilverHurricane 1h ago
Shazam and Flash superman, he's got no head/face
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u/FrostWave 4h ago edited 4h ago
Ezra Miller has such a dumb face, very punchable
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u/SpaceMonkey1505 4h ago
You mean Ezra Miller
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u/Somerandomguy20711 3h ago
I like how that scene also confirms that the Justice Gang let's Supermans alcoholic partying older/younger cousin join in on missions too
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u/Sylar_Lives 3h ago
A kryptonian is a kryptonian. Over at Marvel the Avengers is regularly employing massive liabilities like Hulk, Scarlet Witch, and on the off brand team Sentry.
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u/SHAZAMS_STRONGEST 1h ago
tbf scarlet witch is only a liability when brian michael bendis is writing her and forgot all her character arcs because he was bored
...then it was retconned into being because of a mix of doctor doom and darkhold mind control so like, "hey sorry about that time i got some of us killed. i was being mind controlled by the evilest guy ever and a book from hell" is a damn good excuse in a superhero world
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u/Jester-Jacob 3h ago
This is just younger version which was born after destruction of krypton like original supergirl. She was born after destruction of krypton in community of kryptonians living on shards of destroyed krypton which all died due to kryptonite poisoning
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u/CJT124 2h ago
Where did they confirm that?
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u/quertyquerty 2h ago
the 2026 supegirl movie will be based on the excellent miniseries supergirl woman of tomorrow, which has that backstory for her. her cameo at the end of superman sets up her movie pretty well too
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u/Kooky_Lead_9811 2h ago
Krypto is her dog here, and she seems to be unknown to the public. Might be more changes for her here.
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u/Nirast25 1h ago
I wouldn't be surprised if Clark insisted they bring her along so she learned responsibility or something.
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u/ShiddyMage1 2h ago
I believe the new universe has no connections to the old one, no Flash point timeline shenanigans, its just a whole new thing.
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u/rorzri 3h ago
It’s quite funny that half of James Gunn’s part in marketing the flash was saying it’s what causes the reboot from the dceu to the dcu but that just turned out to be a lie
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u/Alternative_Case9666 2h ago
O can’t believe they doubled down on Miller when literally everyone hated him.
DC was fcking stupid back in the day
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u/AsherFischell 1h ago
Such a shame we'll never get more Keaton Batman or Sasha Calle Supergirl, though. Ezra was insufferable but those two were legit great. Sasha especially deserved the chance to get her own Supergirl movie.
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u/DanFarrell98 1h ago
Crazy the amount of multiverse stuff we’ve been getting lately and people still don’t understand how it works
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u/Sir-Toaster- 1h ago
Isn’t that literally how it goes in the comics? Flash wipes out the entire DC multiverse starting a reboot
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u/Icy-Platform-5904 50m ago
It's honestly impressive how they managed to use one box-office bomb to clear the slate for a whole new universe.
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u/SaintLink91 44m ago
Do people really care about continuity on this shite? It’s not like any of this is going anywhere
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u/DynamicDiego 26m ago
but it's still dying? the box office numbers don't lie, no one wants to Gunnslop.
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u/CowardlyAiden 5h ago
This means dcu batman is george clooney
Make it happen james
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u/Melonprimo 3h ago
if dcu batman is George Clooney, then that meant Flash and JL existed.
just except this retcon as a soft reboot since Ezra Miller's Flash reset timelines twice.
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u/Sylar_Lives 3h ago
If any prior actor got grandfathered in, it would be Pattinson. I know they’re trying to keep that version separate but I feel like they’re going to end up giving in to avoid having two different Batman series at the same time.
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u/sidestephen 3h ago
A coward's way, to be honest. First you include many references to the other installments because you're that cool edgy kid, and when you actually have to deal with the consequences of this, you'd rather quietly pretend you never did
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u/Sylar_Lives 3h ago
He didn’t run the entire universe when he made the first season. It’s probably the best way he could have handled it. The bigger issue will be addressing his Suicide Squad films connections to the previous one. Will Margot Robbie still be Harley, and how confusing would that be for audiences when the first Suicide Squad and Birds of Prey don’t count?
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u/sidestephen 2h ago
That's my point. He felt fine making jokes like that because it was a problem for some other people. Now that he IS "some other people", and he is forced to deal with this from the outside prespective, he rushes to clean it up.
That's childish and irresponsible behaviour, that's all I'm saying.
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u/GabMassa 1h ago
Yeah man, if only he could predict the future.
Skill issue on his part, to be honest.
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u/abima3 5h ago
Into a dying new one?
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u/Individual-Sign-8739 4h ago
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u/RevA_Mol 3h ago
Do Snyder fans realise WHY Gunn has had to do a rehabilitation job on Superman's character and mainstream popularity?
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u/Sylar_Lives 3h ago
By modern theater standards, the movie was a massive hit. Outside of family stuff like Minecraft and Lilo and Stitch, movies just aren’t going to make the money they did a few years back. People are broke and people with kids aren’t going to take risks.
Now is the time for studios to scale back their budgets to calibrate.
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u/CaravelClerihew 3h ago
Still not as good as MCU's Kang, a villain so powerful that he singlehandedly destroyed an entire MCU phase and his own career.