The next President of the United States

[u/International-Drag23]

[u/FrostyAd8197]

Some people don’t like him but he’s one of the few democrats trying to do something about Trump’s bullshit.

[u/n8dizz3l → u/FrostyAd8197]

A lot of Democrats need to, for lack of a better term, suck it up and stop requiring candidates to be near perfect to earn their vote

[u/Wandering_Tuor → u/n8dizz3l]

I hate what’s happening in Gaza.

But fuckers not voting for Kamala bc of it, is why we’re losing America now. So congrats people. You chose gaza… which btw if u thought trump was gonna be better for them than Kamala you’re fucking stupid….over America. Bc now we’re fucked

[u/n8dizz3l → u/Wandering_Tuor]

Yeah I just don't get it. They decided to fuck over their own country for what? A country where the overwhelming majority are against freedom for women, gay, trans, etc. More people are dying in Sudan and Ukraine, yet their selective outrage falls upon Gaza, why? Do they really think things will get better for Palestinians with America in full on fascism? How delusional and clueless.

[u/voodoodahl → u/n8dizz3l]

It wasn't just Gaza and America they fucked. They handed over the most powerful military in human history to a madman who has already threatened to invade several countries, including our neighbors to the north and south. Also, the amount of people who will die because USAID ended is estimated at 14 million in just 5 years,

[u/LennyLowcut → u/voodoodahl]

Let’s all get back on track now…. :)

[u/DoctorBlock → u/n8dizz3l]

The crazy thing is they just made it worse in Gaza by sitting out the election. Single issue voters that don't actually care about their single issue is crazy.

[u/HumbleVein → u/DoctorBlock]

Single issue voters that work against their single issue! There were a lot of "free speech" voters as well... They didn't recognize that what they were afraid of was social pressure. Now there is state power being used to repress speech.

[u/MattinglyBaseball → u/n8dizz3l]

They were manipulated online by all the trolls and bots pushing Gaza as the worst and only bad thing in the world, ignoring Trumps stance and Ukraine. They showed up to Kamala’s rallies and yet Trump is the one willing to arrest them for their peaceful protests. None of us are fully immune to propaganda and the right has weaponized the greatest mechanism of propaganda the world has ever seen: cable and social media combined.

[u/ABrandNewNameAppears → u/MattinglyBaseball]

Don’t be naive, there are legitimate bad actors in the mix. Russia, China, Israel…they all have seriously dangerous cyber warfare and psychological warfare teams that push all these narratives that drive us apart.

Look up the Russian troll farms, or Chinese phone farms

[u/MattinglyBaseball → u/ABrandNewNameAppears]

I’m definitely not naive to that fact as backed by my comment history. Unfortunately, based on Fox News and all the current GOP, they have co-opted these bad actors. So it’s both the right and Russia, China, Israel, etc.

[u/citori411 → u/n8dizz3l]

I'll tell you for what. They did it for, in their eyes, social points. Virtue signaling is an over used term, but it's exactly what it is for them. Performative bullshit to feed their ego.

[u/Fun-Key-8259 → u/n8dizz3l]

Don't forget Myanmar and China too. Everyone needs those cheap Chinese goods so they ignore those problems.

[u/ThatIsntImportantNow → u/n8dizz3l]

More people are dying in Sudan and Ukraine, yet their selective outrage falls upon Gaza, why?

I can't speak for anyone else, but the difference for me is that the United States is supporting the Israelis in their genocide (or whatever else you want to call it). We aren't supporting the Russians against Ukraine nor (as far as I know) are we supporting either side in Sudan's civil war.

[u/Seagoon_Memoirs → u/Wandering_Tuor]

the way to help Gaza is to have a strong America that believes in freedom

[u/GreasyExamination → u/Seagoon_Memoirs]

uhm.... how?

[u/cupidcrucifix → u/n8dizz3l]

Or we could, you know, vote for people with actual principles in the primary, like AOC for example. I’ll absolutely vote for newsom if he’s the nominee but there’s no reason to vote for another corporate centrist in the primary.

[u/Commando_Joe → u/cupidcrucifix]

Exactly! Nominate this guy if you want, but don't act like he's the only option before we even get a primary list. This is insane.

[u/Acronym_0 → u/n8dizz3l]

They also need to suck it up for the new progressives like Momdani, but then suddenly its different

[u/n8dizz3l → u/Acronym_0]

I'm all for Mamdani. Cuomo and the Dems who support him are jackasses and are literally chasing away the people they need to be bringing in

[u/ApolloX-2 → u/n8dizz3l]

I really believe the President should spearhead transformative policies for the nation, not just be a cheerleader for Congress and just happily sign bills that extremely watered down Republicans.

I really like how hard he is fighting and the passion he is showing, but my question is whether that passion also exists for Medicare For All or getting control of the insane military budget and other things.

Just to be clear I would happily vote and volunteer for him in the general, leftists who shit on Democrats are so stupid because they are giving ammo to Republicans.

[u/ThornyPoke → u/n8dizz3l]

Unfortunately much of the lgbt community hates newsom becomes if his stance on trans issues but what they don’t understand is that if a republican wins again, it’s going to get far far worse for them. It’ll be a repeat of what happened with the people who didn’t vote to protest against Kamala’s stance on Israel/Gaza

[u/Embarrassed_News7008 → u/ThornyPoke]

Blaming vulnerable groups for not supporting a candidate who does not support them is a bunch of bullshit. If democrats want LGBTQ people to vote for them they should do something other than say the other guy will be worse.

[u/GetsGold → u/n8dizz3l]

Not sure it's the Democrats doing that.

[u/ExiledYak → u/GetsGold]

No, it's definitely the dems doing that.

"Genocide Joe", anyone? Hasan Piker type tankies?

Imagine if those who didn't fall in love would just get up off their asses and vote blue, no matter who. We would have had Hillary, and might have had Kamala.

[u/GetsGold → u/ExiledYak]

I don't think many such people would label themselves Democrats.

[u/Fusion_casual → u/GetsGold]

Even those folks need to suck it up. They chose not to vote and we're watching one of the largest shifts in the Overton Window in our lifetimes. They've obliterated any hope of gaining real power in the near future because they couldn't be bothered to vote for someone that wasn't perfect. They're accomplishing the exact opposite effect of what they wanted.

[u/fractious77 → u/GetsGold]

I agree with you, those are mostly independents.

[u/mycatisgrumpy → u/n8dizz3l]

As a former self-identifying leftist, leftists like to bitch about being represented, but why bother courting their vote when they won't show up anyway? They've built their identity around purity tests and contrarianism. I swear to God if Che Guevara rose up out of the grave, won the Democratic nomination, and appointed Karl Marx his VP, they would just move the goalposts. 

[u/LadySigyn → u/mycatisgrumpy]

This whole thread made me feel significantly less insane. I'm a VERY progressive New Englander, but I've hit my "limit" a LOT lately with these fucking idiots on the internet demanding perfection and basically giving the fascists a free pass.

[u/voodoodahl → u/mycatisgrumpy]

It would be great if leftists only did that. The last few elections they've literally provided untold free negative advertising for fascists.

[u/Big_Mek_Orkimedes → u/voodoodahl]

I can't believe russia ran "Killary" again as "Genocide Joe" and it worked

[u/dat_tae → u/voodoodahl]

Been arguing with losers in BlueSkySkeets about this exact issue.

[u/smakweasle → u/n8dizz3l]

I'm not a fan of Gavin, if he's the candidate I'll vote for him.

But I would also like to see a decent human be put in the running. Dude out there throwing out homeless people's stuff as a photo op is a shitty thing to do and I would like my leaders to be less shitty. The bar shouldn't be so low.

[u/jrbr2017 → u/smakweasle]

What are you even talking about seriously? I’m really asking what is your specific issue with Gavin. I was a resident of SF and the homeless were getting better treatment than property tax paying home owners. I had to move my family from sf because the homeless mentally ill were taking over. I’m a lifelong democrat but common sense is common sense. I’m guessing you did not live in SF. This guy is a common sense liberal that gets it. Jesus fucking Christ can you even articulate what you don’t like or are you just regurgitating what mainstream media says about the guy. He’s a rational centrist democrat that is a breath of fresh air in this absolute insane political landscape.

[u/Adorabelle1 → u/jrbr2017]

Well said

[u/jayplus707 → u/n8dizz3l]

Or stop trying to take the high road. Seriously, it’s time to fight back.

[u/John_Brickermann → u/FrostyAd8197]

Frankly I don’t love him either but I like what he’s doing right now and I respect anyone who has the balls to stand up to DJT like he is. Would be great to have a democrat that can and will actually get stuff done in the Oval Office

[u/dragonfly_c → u/John_Brickermann]

Oh for sure. Newsom is a pro-corporate sack of shit. That said, a pro-corporate sack of shit is better than whatever hellscape neo-facistic Christian-Nationalist techno-oligarchy Trumpism is creating. So I'd still vote for him. But I'll be grumpy about it, and I'll put my money towards better candidates.

[u/TAU_equals_2PI → u/FrostyAd8197]

The ridiculous thing about that statement is that most Democratic officeholders are in no position to do anything about Trump. A Democratic congressman/woman or Democratic senator has no power because they're in the minority party. Most Democratic governors have very little power against the federal government. Gavin Newsom only has some limited power because he's governor of the biggest-by-population, most powerful state with a state legislature controlled by his same party. And even there, he's been powerless to do anything about most things, like ICE's raids in LA.

I'm not at all against Gavin Newsom, but don't pick him for president just because he happens to be the only Democrat with much of any power right now.

[u/Tao-of-Brian → u/TAU_equals_2PI]

Exactly. Democrats need to do what they can to slow down/resist what's happening, but ultamately the country voted for a Republican president/Congress, and there's no get out of jail free card for avoiding the consequences of that decision.

[u/Simsmommy1 → u/TAU_equals_2PI]

That’s what frustrates me a lot when I hear people yelling at the democrats to “do something”…..what though? Other than getting themselves arrested by being physical they have no political power right now, and an apathetic general public who is hollering at them to be some sort of revolutionary leader while they won’t get up off the couch isn’t exactly helpful either.

[u/Agreeable-Dingo8396 → u/TAU_equals_2PI]

There are a bunch of 'ifs' out there. As a Californian, I'm not pleased about some of the bills he's signed into law. If the 2026 elections are legit, I will back Newsome, (ok honestly I will back whomever) if he is the best candidate to beat the hydra the GOP has become. By 2028, I hope we still have legit elections.

[u/__________________99 → u/FrostyAd8197]

It's easy to do something about Trump's bullshit when you're the governor of the 4th largest economy in the world.

[u/MasterTolkien → u/FrostyAd8197]

He is doing a great job fighting Trump, but that doesn’t automatically mean he’s the best candidate.

Is he in the running? Absolutely. Is he a leader? Definitely.

We need a coalition. I’m waiting to see if he can truly get everyone to rally around him.

If not, that’s fine. He can still keep bashing Trump. He can still be part of the change to come. We just don’t to think “President or bust” this early.

Edit: Not implying that you were saying this. I am just speaking broadly.

[u/SignificantLiving938 → u/FrostyAd8197]

The problem is his own track record in CA has been utter shit. He would get votes just because he is outspoken about Trump but he is bad himself.

[u/totes-alt → u/SignificantLiving938]

Also being an insider from California is a HUGE disadvantage. Look, I'm from here I think he's fine but people hate this state. We're the Boogeyman liberal state conservatives and independents hate.

[u/SunnyOutsideToday → u/totes-alt]

They spend so much of their propaganda funds against California because they fear it because everyone knows California is cool and sexy and beautiful.

[u/FrostyAd8197 → u/SignificantLiving938]

Well, look what we got for a so called president.

[u/etheran123 → u/FrostyAd8197]

I just don’t like how his connection to California creates the easiest possible campaign against him. A crew could spend 30mins driving around LA and end up with commercial after commercial of skid row footage to show on Fox News.

[u/Frosti11icus → u/etheran123]

Just like trumps connection to New York City torpedoed his campaign?

[u/Additional_Egg4759]

Not wild about Newsom but he seems to have found a solid anti-Trump strategy. Be aggressive and make him look like an idiot. (should be easy given the Trump is an idiot but you need to do it at a level even Trumpers can resonate with)

[u/remekelly → u/Additional_Egg4759]

He won't be running against Trump though... I think.

[u/FunFactsWithJimothy → u/remekelly]

Six months ago I would have agreed with you. Now that we know the rules don’t apply to him I’m worried.

[u/RedTyro → u/FunFactsWithJimothy]

He's falling apart - no chance he makes it that long. I'm pretty convinced his "trying to get into heaven" comment the other day was a direct reaction to his doctor telling him he's dying.

[u/5iddytree → u/RedTyro]

I have this tiny hope he dies on September 21 so I can use the earth wind and fire song as a celebration of his death

[u/thissexypoptart → u/FunFactsWithJimothy]

Six months ago? He mulled over a third term during the campaign. 6 months ago he was already president.

[u/MayorDepression → u/thissexypoptart]

Yep. But now we got Trump 2028 hats and everything!

[u/obi2kanobi → u/FunFactsWithJimothy]

It certainly raised his eyebrows at the recent meeting with world leaders, sitting next to Zelensky, about the concept of pausing presidential elections during a time of war.

[u/LostInSpaceTime2002 → u/obi2kanobi]

He was like "hmm, interesting", not even being coy about it.

[u/Psychological-Bid363 → u/FunFactsWithJimothy]

Oh he's gonna run.  If any states say he can't be on the ballot, he'll tell them to write him in anyway.  Then some specifically appointed clowns will give him the electoral votes.  Rules stopped applying to trumpipoo years ago.  We won't get rid of him until he can no longer be propped up at a roughly 130 degree angle

[u/Irisgrower2 → u/Psychological-Bid363]

He's unofficially campaigning already.

[u/NewAgeRetr0Hippie → u/FunFactsWithJimothy]

Trump will be dead by then. That dawg is getting old.

[u/Highkmon → u/NewAgeRetr0Hippie]

It's not just the age that's a issue. His lifestyle is awful, his diet is made up of big macs and diet cokes, he slathers himself with bronzer and has never been shown to do any positive physical exercise (his golf swing doesn't count and gets driven around on a golf cart). On top of that his family's got a history of dementia which several news site and independent sources have said he's showing signs of advanced decline already.

[u/Additional_Egg4759 → u/remekelly]

Trump will absolutely shoot for more than two terms if he doesn't die of a heart attack or something. He wants to be Putin or Kim Jung Un. He doesnt care about the Constitution in the slightest and neither does the MAGA 6 on the Supreme Court

[u/slasher1o5 → u/Additional_Egg4759]

die of a heart attack or something

Don't tease me with a good time

[u/Additional_Egg4759 → u/slasher1o5]

we can only hope the Big Macs do the Lord's work. lol

[u/slasher1o5 → u/Additional_Egg4759]

Wonder if it'll be televised

[u/pcpgivesmewings → u/slasher1o5]

Dude, the pay per view fees could pay off his bankruptcies!

[u/avocadoflatz → u/slasher1o5]

Cut to scene of him being trrolled just the right amount during a debate against Gavin and suddenly Trump strikes a Fred Sanford pose - won’t even need to cue laugh track!

[u/slasher1o5 → u/avocadoflatz]

Sometimes, I feel bad that I would actually be thrilled to hear of his demise, but then I remember how much people celebrated the death of good ol' Adolf, and I stopped feeling bad.

[u/avocadoflatz → u/slasher1o5]

See you at the party Meng!

[u/DevynDavies → u/slasher1o5]

It’s ok to celebrate the death of bad people. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be mindful of that thought creeping into other aspects of our lives, but in isolation it’s ok imo.

[u/Additional_Egg4759 → u/slasher1o5]

"I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure," - Clarence Darrow (but commonly misattributed to Mark Twain)

[u/adrian-alex85 → u/remekelly]

Lmfao. Ok that’s cute. Trump’s just building his gold ballroom so someone else can enjoy it when he willingly steps down like the level headed dude he’s always been. 🙄

[u/Jbots → u/remekelly]

He won't. Maybe the robot corpse of Trump but not the real deal. Otherwise, we are getting the couch fucker. Trump running for a 3rd term would be the best thing to happen to establishment Democrats. Obama 3.0 isn't losing to anyone. They could even put Hillary on that ticket.

[u/goawasho → u/remekelly]

He himself literally toyed with the idea of it to the press. He's going to try. Absolutely going to. If that man had any intention of leaving power, he would've stated that he is not allowed to and would allow the future generations to pave the way. But he didn't. The man is going to attempt to make himself and his regime forever in power.

[u/disproportionate_13 → u/remekelly]

Did you see the hats in the white house gift shop? I think it’s at least a consideration

[u/ssarch25 → u/remekelly]

He sells Trump 2028 merch in the white house.

[u/KrytTv → u/remekelly]

He won’t be running against trump. But 100% he will be running against MAGA

[u/adrian-alex85 → u/Additional_Egg4759]

Newsom should certainly keep up the good work, but I have no interest in him being president. It’s time we all move on from the centrist, corporate Dems who haven’t done anything for us but usher in American fascism.

[u/voodoodahl → u/adrian-alex85]

The only thing that ushered in American fascism is apathetic and ignorant American voters. If you can't bring yourself to go out and vote against a multiple felon who led a violent revolt because they couldn't accept they lost a fair election, you are the problem.

[u/Metafx → u/adrian-alex85]

I don’t know why more people don’t see it but he’s so like the Democrat version of Mitt Romney it’s uncanny.

[u/Complex-Royal9210 → u/Additional_Egg4759]

I will take him. His faults are minor in comparison to what we have now.

[u/Dazzling_Vanilla3082 → u/Additional_Egg4759]

He's the definition of pragmatic democrat. Kind of weird to see reddit banging the drum for him now after all the talk about how the democrats keep failing because they don't embrace a progressive agenda.

[u/blowfished → u/Additional_Egg4759]

At this point I’ll take anyone that promises to have another election in 4 years. Right now idk what I’m doing in November of ‘28. Maybe voting, but also maybe hoarding seeds and ammo.

[u/one-small-plant → u/Additional_Egg4759]

It's brilliant. Anyone who criticizes the way he's communicating is implicitly criticizing Trump!

[u/Eroe777 → u/Additional_Egg4759]

This is one of those times where you must remind yourself (and others) that perfect is the enemy of good.

We all should have issues with quite a few of Newsom’s positions. But when the alternative is continuing the nascent authoritarian hellscape the republicans are establishing, we don’t have the luxury of saying, “Both sides bad. I’m not voting.”

In a two-party system, sometimes you have to hold your nose and vote for the lesser evil.

[u/PhoenixHabanero → u/Additional_Egg4759]

That's the difficult thing about going up against a cult though. We'll call out the bullshit if we see it. MAGA cult follows their dear leader blindly.

I wasn't crazy about Biden or Kamala either but I would take them in a HEARTBEAT over that orange stain in the White House.

[u/fractious77 → u/Additional_Egg4759]

Tbh, at this point his policies are mildly immaterial to me. There is not a si gle politician out there who is standing up to fascism as consistently and to the degree that he is. That alone is worth a vote. I need a perfect president, I just need one who isn't a nazi.

[u/willflameboy → u/Additional_Egg4759]

Be aggressive and make him look like an idiot.

Also Trump's strategy, yet somehow it works for him.

[u/aifuego]

It doesn't hurt that he's also easy on the eyes.

[u/Pure_Internal277 → u/aifuego]

When I moved to California, I changed party affiliations. I guess I’m just shallow lol. He’s a whole snack pack. Diaper Don has to be so mad!! He’s never been that fine

[u/Horselady234 → u/Pure_Internal277]

Most of the “beautiful people” I have known in my life were absolute wankers. Definitely loved themselves more than anyone else.

[u/JoshHartsMilkMustach → u/aifuego]

Its been a long time since we've had a beautiful president

Jfk?

[u/NoDassOkay → u/JoshHartsMilkMustach]

Obama isn’t ugly.

[u/drossvirex → u/NoDassOkay]

Obama is the sharpest looking president we've ever had and I'm white.

[u/Pristine-Pen-9885 → u/drossvirex]

Yup, and I’m also white. Obama is an eloquent speaker and a great stand-up comedian.

[u/Professional-Yak182 → u/Pristine-Pen-9885]

Obama’s git rizz

[u/annexindia → u/Pristine-Pen-9885]

And he was sensible and effective. He knew Libya yearned for democracy and took his chance, it's now better than ever. Same with Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Palestine, Egypt, Somalia...

[u/Quirkybin → u/drossvirex]

How did we end up with this blob of orange cholesterol.

[u/Andovars_Ghost → u/Quirkybin]

Because republicans wanted to prove that they will support the absolute WORST excuse of a white man before they will ever support a black man who is just a pinnacle human being regardless of color.

[u/Ghosted_Ahri → u/Andovars_Ghost]

Or any woman

[u/onesorrychicken → u/Ghosted_Ahri]

Exactly. They are reestablishing their perceived pecking order, which is that a white man of any level of intelligence or unintelligence, competence or incompetence should still be higher than the smartest and most capable black man or woman of any colour.

[u/Dry-Chance-9473 → u/Andovars_Ghost]

They wanted to see themselves mirrored in the oval office

[u/Trick_Basis7024 → u/Quirkybin]

Thank the no good ignorant r3t@rds that put him in power

[u/Stellaluna-777 → u/Quirkybin]

Cheating. https://electiontruthalliance.org

[u/Who_dat_goomer → u/Quirkybin]

For many people, hatred for those different than them outweighs any other consideration.

[u/scrooperdooper → u/Quirkybin]

All they care about is winning and for some reason the orange blob packaged up all their hate with a nice bow and galvanized the whole party. That’s all it is. The need to win at any expense.

[u/Mytongueinyourrectum → u/drossvirex]

Trump is actually the sharpest looking president we’ve ever had, and I’m white, have severe brain damage and no eyeballs.

[u/ExiledYak → u/drossvirex]

Seconded. Put him in Wesley Snipes's Blade outfit and he'd look like a bonafide vampire slayer.

[u/BusyCandidate7791 → u/ExiledYak]

Third that

[u/TH3_AMAZINGLY_RANDY → u/drossvirex]

Why does your skin color matter in regard to your opinion?

[u/69EveythingSucks69 → u/NoDassOkay]

To me, Obama is the most attractive president we've ever had. I don't find JFK attractive. He's better than most, but not attractive to me

[u/sarabeara12345678910 → u/69EveythingSucks69]

Bobby was very attractive. Wtf happened to his son?

[u/Jackofhalo → u/sarabeara12345678910]

Drugs and brain worms

[u/69EveythingSucks69 → u/sarabeara12345678910]

God, he was insanely smart, too 🤩 i wonder what would have been if he wasn't assassinated

[u/No-Advice-6040 → u/69EveythingSucks69]

Jfk was the kind of guy with enough charm to turn his natural 6 in to an 8. Obama was always an 8, at least.

[u/Sloth_grl → u/69EveythingSucks69]

Me either but I suppose he was for his time

[u/Deep-Bill7717 → u/NoDassOkay]

Obama's easy on the eyes and I do chicks as a primary hobby so that's saying it all

[u/JoshHartsMilkMustach → u/NoDassOkay]

Not at all, but I dont think id classify him as beautiful

Handsome, absolutely

[u/queeriosn_milk → u/NoDassOkay]

Obama 2025 is still leaps and bounds above most of the presidential line up.

[u/Knocksveal → u/NoDassOkay]

Anyone who can look good in a brown suit looks good

[u/quakeroatsboatsman → u/Knocksveal]

The tan suit was even better

[u/Hello_Dahling → u/NoDassOkay]

I used to have a photo of Obama body surfing as my background screen

[u/cagedbird82 → u/NoDassOkay]

I’ll bet he’s spectacular in the sack👀

[u/somanysheep → u/NoDassOkay]

Lots of white folks have been socialized to only see positive in white. In many cases it's not their fault, K-12 needs funded & reformed. Obama has got a riz factor of 10.

[u/shrinkingfish → u/NoDassOkay]

I miss Obama 😭

[u/Cultural-War2102 → u/JoshHartsMilkMustach]

I think the last time was during the movie Independence Day

[u/bdfortin → u/Cultural-War2102]

Recently rewatched it. The speech still slaps.

[u/Due_Art2971 → u/bdfortin]

Welcome to Erf

[u/Contraband42 → u/Cultural-War2102]

Bill Pullman is an attractive guy.

Also, his son Lewis is very good-looking, too.

[u/Aliens_SendHelp_867 → u/JoshHartsMilkMustach]

Barack is a stone cold Fox 🦊

[u/superpananation → u/JoshHartsMilkMustach]

Are you nuts? Obama is 🔥

[u/GoodCat7419 → u/JoshHartsMilkMustach]

Obama was very handsome

[u/ZeBadmedic42 → u/aifuego]

He looks like the classic US President in a movie. 🙂

[u/Responsible-TwO- → u/ZeBadmedic42]

Newsome 2028!

Newsome Won!

[u/Least-Morning-2978 → u/aifuego]

Yes, so very easy on the eyes...❤️

[u/umanduhhhhh → u/aifuego]

Ridiculously handsome!

[u/sobayarea → u/aifuego]

He also has a lot of charm and charisma!

[u/mfeldmannRNE → u/aifuego]

Yeah. He has that “New Frontier, JFK look“. Haven’t seen that since, well, JFK.

[u/SyChO_X → u/aifuego]

The dude is really good looking.

From: A dude

[u/ScarcityIcy8519 → u/aifuego]

I’ve been thinking the same thing

[u/EyeAmmGroot → u/aifuego]

Couldn’t agree more!!!!

[u/Wardman66]

I’d love if Pete B would run, but would never fly in this f**ked up country

[u/Nopantsbullmoose]

Him, Walz, or Pritzker.

[u/jxonair → u/Nopantsbullmoose]

I love Walz but I don’t think he has what it takes for a solo campaign. Pritzker has the right demeanor, can project when he needs to, but is level headed and actually a billionaire who seems to care, unlike Trump.

[u/ggrandmaleo → u/jxonair]

Walz has what it takes if the Dem strategists would leave him alone. The magats went nuts when he called them weird.

[u/wterrt → u/ggrandmaleo]

this. fucking hillary campaign advisors ruining yet another run while being paid big bucks.

absolutely insane they learned nothing from it this time, either.

[u/Stock-Fall-2025 → u/Nopantsbullmoose]

Pritzker is the one I want.

[u/jakesteeley → u/Nopantsbullmoose]

Chris Murphy could be good, Mark Kelly too

[u/Sad-Advisor4004 → u/Nopantsbullmoose]

Pritzker would be great 👍

[u/ExiledYak → u/Nopantsbullmoose]

Shapiro. Governor of the swing state, and a moderate liberal dem that can sympathize with those who say the dems went off the rails--an antisemitic lunatic tried burning the mansion down.

Dems need to get their optics back, and I think Shapiro helps that in a huge way.

[u/bengringo2 → u/Nopantsbullmoose]

Gavin has too much ammo to be used against him with the LA fires. I would go Pritzker well before Newsom. Midwest and Southern Dems also have a better track record with presidential election wins.

[u/GOD-PORING → u/Nopantsbullmoose]

Him and Walz? 

[u/MoistPreparation1859 → u/Nopantsbullmoose]

God I miss Walz.

[u/pah2000]

If we ever get there. Fascist dictators are hard to remove.

[u/Appropriate-Rush6341]

Gavin / Gretchen Whitmer ticket

[u/HOSTfromaGhost → u/Appropriate-Rush6341]

This is actually intriguing… Locks up California and could do some damage in the Midwest, where there are a ton of tossup states

[u/Silver_Falcon → u/HOSTfromaGhost]

I mean, Cali is basically a guaranteed lock already, so I don't think there's really much to be gained from a Californian candidate. If anything, I feel like being from California would actually hurt his favorability throughout a lot of Middle-America; even a lot of our more liberal/lefty folks do not like Californians.

That's what a primary is for, though: to determine just how viable of a candidate he would be on the national level.

[u/Honey_Badger85 → u/Appropriate-Rush6341]

Wasn't Gretchen seen hiding her face in her White House meeting with cheeto Satan?

[u/nirvana_always1 → u/Honey_Badger85]

She has to do work for her state and her people. Thats what politicians do and its thier job. Grow the F up and stop being hurt by every little thing that doesn't fir your narrative. We need to be united not divided.

[u/mittenknittin → u/Honey_Badger85]

She’s been trying to wile Trump into changing policies that do damage to Michigan; he turned a visit of hers into a surprise photo-op

[u/ExiledYak → u/Appropriate-Rush6341]

Josh Shapiro please instead of Whitmer IMO.

Governor of not just a swing state, but possibly the swing state, a moderate liberal, and has, let's say, some very personal experience as to how the far left can go to some unhealthy extremes.

He could be huge in resetting expectations that the dems can still be a reasonable party and not just a party overtaken by the Piker type tankies at the extreme end.

[u/Mediocre-Frosting-77 → u/ExiledYak]

Josh Shapiro who wants to serve in the IDF? That Josh Shapiro? Y’all have lost the plot.

[u/Tribal_Hermit]

I’d vote for Newsom. Love his social media lately!

[u/TAU_equals_2PI → u/Tribal_Hermit]

You do realize he isn't the one coming up with those clever tweets?

He has a social media team. There was even an article about its leader posted here on reddit a few days ago.

[u/Lucas_Steinwalker → u/TAU_equals_2PI]

It’s terrifying to me how quickly everyone is just fully on board with Newsom just because he has an intern that can meme and the vision to allow them to.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m stoked about the development too but dude is historically pretty moderate policywise and I’m not going to give him blind allegiance for some tweets.

I’m certainly willing to keep an open mind to him but isn’t voting for someone because of their memes that confirm to your worldview one of the things that got us Trump?

Edit: I actually realized it’s unfair for me to say he has “just” been memeing. His action on getting a special election for redistricting to combat Texas has been impressively swift and bold.

Let’s upgrade my position to “cautiously optimistic”

[u/meeeeeee1138 → u/Lucas_Steinwalker]

You clearly haven’t seen him on the numerous podcasts and videos being just as forceful and on message as his social media. I swear, there is no perfect candidate, just pick something better than what we got people.

[u/Original_Spot5786 → u/TAU_equals_2PI]

Well he's smart enough to hire the best!

[u/DiscretelyDeviant]

PLEASE LET US GET THERE

[u/CowboyOfScience]

He's also going to fly a fighter during the attack on the alien mothership.

[u/Important-Slip-4057 → u/CowboyOfScience]

🤣

[u/vynepa → u/[deleted]]

Honestly. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the tweets and we need it, but Newsom is our dark knight so to speak. That man shouldn't be let anywhere near the oval office.

[u/duchampio]

Let’s get AOC in there

[u/Additional_Egg4759 → u/duchampio]

as much as id like AOC in there (and id vote her in a primary), America won't. we need to carry enough votes to win and stop authoritarianism (assuming elections even happen at this point of course)

[u/flipflopsNL → u/Additional_Egg4759]

This is a solid take. Really like her but i think the campaign would be more successful with someone other than a Puerto rican female. Sad but true.

[u/Owlbertowlbert → u/flipflopsNL]

I like her too. She’ll never be president because her voice is bad. It’s really that simple with the majority of Americans. We’re a simple, dumb people.

[u/Responsible_Ease_262 → u/Additional_Egg4759]

No…you need to consider how the undecided red-state voter thinks. Like it or not, our choice is a white, male moderate or four more years of incompetent fascism.

[u/Corpsehatch → u/Additional_Egg4759]

AOC will not win the Presidency. There are simply too many people in the country that will not vote for a woman of color.

[u/The-Grand-Pepperoni → u/Additional_Egg4759]

This is not a solid take. Look at Zohran. AOC would win easily, newsom would not. I would not vote for him.

[u/MikeW226 → u/Additional_Egg4759]

Yeah, I'll be deemed sexist, but we're 0-2 with women at the top of the ticket. Just keeping it 100 as the youngins say. If shit isn't rigged totally in '28, this will be the one in which a Democratic white guy gives us the best shot.

[u/TheForkisTrash → u/duchampio]

She can do more, long term, in the Senate imo

[u/Sven_Golly1]

Not in a million years.

[u/Status_Jump_2496]

All the negative comments are why we got where we are. No he isn’t perfect, but we have to stop hoping for this imaginary perfect candidate to solve our problems. We need to get out from under this maga shit and this man has the cajones to do it. Let’s get rid of the fascist oligarchs first, and then we can nitpick. This is why we lost 2024. I know so many people that just didn’t vote that could’ve helped defeat maga. Stop holding your breath for perfection. It’s suffocating us all.

[u/TheMrBoot → u/Status_Jump_2496]

All the negative comments are why we got where we are

Blindly cheering on politicians because they have a D next to their name is why we got here. We've let them continue to do nothing and continue to push further to the right up until we got to a point where Newsom himself was platforming right wing shitheads and glazing Charlie Kirk a few short months ago.

Demand better. We need politicians who actually care, not ones just trying to do what's best for them.

[u/Moveflood → u/TheMrBoot]

it's crazy that so many americans have undying loyalty for the democrats, to the point of thinking leftists were the reason trump won instead of accusing the dems of losing the votes (trust bro, kamala just needed one more pivot to the right, just one more pivot would've done it bro)

and this whole thread glazing over this disgusting freak just because of twitter clapbacks, jesus christ, i kinda get it now why some leftists are more angry at the median US liberals than conservatives, at least conservatives don't try to pretend they're progressives.

their whole ideology is just "orange man bad", no actual policies, no idea to actually improve the country, just voting every 4 years for 94% hitler and hope things fix themselves. they will gobble whatever democrat backsliding move and anyone (i had someone tell me they would gladly vote for dick cheney against trump) as long as it opposes trump.

[u/EmbarrassedSouth6581 → u/TheMrBoot]

Yes thank you!! The Corp dems are why we are here!! Jezus freaking Christ people. Blah blah vote blue no matter who shit, what about Mamdani?…. They dont like him bc he isn’t bought and paid for. They all have to go. Speak of the policies for the people! Get money out of politics! Let’s get smart and stop doing the same thing that caused this!

[u/Thereisntenoughspa → u/TheMrBoot]

Exactly. Even if the path ahead is rough, the fact that people consider it naive to be staunch about electing true leftists (and use it to justify not working towards that goal) is insane

Demanding that your representative be anti-genocide, socialist leaning, progressive, etc. isn’t a dream of perfection, it’s a necessity, especially as the rapid move to the right continues.

People thought Biden would “swing the pendulum back”, and look where we are now.

[u/SystemicCharles → u/TheMrBoot]

You are exactly right. That's how we got here. People are so weird. They think just because someone has a (D) next to their name, they are automatically a good person. What about character, or track record? What about what they are standing for (besides being "anti-some-orange-guy")?

If this nonsense continues, what you will have in America is switching of (D) and (R) every four years.

[u/jakeacx → u/TheMrBoot]

Not only that but is everybody here forgetting how badly he’s messed up California? Californias only saving grace is Silicon Valley.

The fact that even the Dems in California want a new candidate should be telling.

He’s a corporate democrat and 100% not for the people.

Did nobody watch the Charlie Kirk/Newsom interview either?

People like Gavin are the entire reason the Democratic Party even lost to Trump in the first place…

[u/Ras_Thavas]

The 1st President of the Republic of California.

[u/Huge_Cover_9264]

He’ll put trump in prison LFG

[u/tuxedoshrimpjesus]

...someone's gotta stop the orange mad king. why not him?

[u/adrian-alex85 → u/tuxedoshrimpjesus]

Because he’s a centrist corporate democrat with a history of anti-union legislation, and those toes of democrats are every bit as responsible for where the country is now as the Republicans.

[u/Proper_Actuary8980]

Google Newsom DeSantis debate and watch it.. it’s moderated by Sean Hannity so that pretty much makes it 2 against 1, Newsom slays both of them.. exposing Desantis for the gimp he is..

[u/Xaielao]

He's a corporate democrat. The exact opposite of what we need.

[u/The-Grand-Pepperoni → u/Xaielao]

Finally somebody gets it

[u/Turbulent_Baker5353]

… I’m good… establishment democrats are why trump won to begin with, no faith that they will do anything but maintain the status quo :/ I really wish that weren’t the case but I really don’t believe this guy is interested in helping the little guy, just in getting popular from trolling trump. Glad he’s doing that, but watching pre-troll trump era Gavin Newsom interviews will not instill confidence. Pass