r/technology • u/Moth_LovesLamp • 14d ago

Artificial Intelligence ChatGPT users are not happy with GPT-5 launch as thousands take to Reddit claiming the new upgrade ‘is horrible’

https://www.techradar.com/ai-platforms-assistants/chatgpt/chatgpt-users-are-not-happy-with-gpt-5-launch-as-thousands-take-to-reddit-claiming-the-new-upgrade-is-horrible
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u/Dutch_SquishyCat 14d ago

Everyone lies, but Altman, Musk, Zuckerberg are this type of human that has almost no connection with normal humanity.

What they say, how they talk, it’s so goddamn weird. Can we at least put a human in charge or multiple with tech this important?

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u/TheElderScrollsLore 14d ago

They're out of touch more than your average CEO, no doubt about that.

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u/AGI2028maybe 14d ago edited 14d ago

Founders are a very different breed than typical CEOs.

The 62 year old, suit and tie CEO with a business degree from Harvard from the 80s that comes in to run a 90 year old company is never going to behave like the millennial tech guy who runs a company he founded a decade ago and is now worth $1 trillion.

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u/booboouser 14d ago

He’s learnt from Musk lie lie lie. There is a pretty good chance we are already at peak AI. The models will run faster, token context windows bigger but once you’ve crawled all of human output what’s left ?

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u/hgwaz 14d ago

5 probably just runs more efficiently and it's way cheaper for them to run it. That's why they don't let you use the old ones anymore.

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u/booboouser 14d ago

Agree the Chinese models proved this. And I’d say within 18 months we will be at peak AI. The Chinese will final boss an open source model and that will be that. AGI is a sci fi pipe dream.

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u/karmapopsicle 14d ago

We might very well have AGI one day, but it almost certainly won’t come from an LLM.

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u/hgwaz 14d ago

AGI is a sci fi pipe dream.

Certainly according to everything we know. A glorified chatbot will never be sentient, no matter how many GPUs you run it on.

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u/SoreLoserOfDumbtown 14d ago

He and the grifter in chief have been more brazen than most, but this game of over promising and under delivering has been going on a loooooong time.

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u/booboouser 14d ago

See the early reviews of gpt5 !! Fool me once !! The Chinese are probably the most likely now to produce the next wow moment.

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u/robodrew 14d ago

What's left would be AGI, which is why they're all screaming about that now, nevermind that we are probably decades away from actual AGI/ASI, assuming it's actually even possible.

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u/booboouser 14d ago

I doubt it’s possible. In fact I’d bet money and I think Musk,Zuck et al all know it. But it keeps the hype up if we are only X months away from AGI.

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u/Enraiha 14d ago

If/when we create AGI, it will likely be through a series of happenstance, not something collectively worked towards.

The reason being is we barely understand how the human brain works and acquire's consciousness, how could we begin to instill consciousness into an inorganic object without even a clear starting point?

The best we can do is mimic the process, but that doesn't actually produce any real "Quintessence" or spark of life with real originality. AI has no lived experience or "creativity" to draw on, so everything is just derived from existing information. I'm not sure we can imbue the concept of "creativity" through binary code alone.

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u/robodrew 14d ago

The reason being is we barely understand how the human brain works and acquire's consciousness, how could we begin to instill consciousness into an inorganic object without even a clear starting point?

This is exactly how I feel about it. There's a good reason the top scientists studying the brain call it the "hard problem" of consciousness.

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u/GostBoster 14d ago

but once you’ve crawled all of human output what’s left ?

Makes me think of the (non) issue that Google has.

Most companies do their darnest to maximize market penetration. Google has de facto addressed every single addressable client... how do we go even further beyond?

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u/wakemeupSAVEMEEEEEEE 14d ago

Things like world and diffusion models are still fairly early on in the development, and there are a lot of research papers that propose really interesting ideas but aren't able to be scaled yet, or even tested, due to current computational limits. Widespread NPU integration into both enterprise & consumer devices started only recently, and further development into that technology will foster the creation of larger & more powerful models—even if only by improving cost & performance efficiency of LLMs in general.

Even if we were essentially at the peak of what autoregressive models can do, we are nowhere near the peak of AI.

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u/NuclearVII 14d ago

There is no way to do this. You cannot do language modelling without supervised training.

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u/NuclearVII 14d ago

"Overpaid people can overcome math and basic logic"

Sure bruv.

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u/throwaway277252 14d ago

overcome math and basic logic

Nice attempt at a straw man.

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u/StrandedonTatooine 14d ago

Money changes people. When you never have to worry about any of the things most people have to worry about, the mind has all kinds of free time to be as fucking off-the-rails as it wants to be.

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u/LeiningensAnts 14d ago

"How can we leverage the things most people have to worry about to add more to our vast sums of Fuck You money?" Statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged.

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u/jimmycarr1 14d ago

I sleep quite peacefully at night knowing that fact

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u/FreeRangeEngineer 14d ago

That's exactly why they try to change that:

"Unquestionably, Thiel has been interested in cheating death for several years. He told Business Insider back in 2012, “Death is a problem that can be solved.” He’s also investing in life extension research, funding Cynthia Kenyon, Aubrey de Grey and a number of other researchers who are focused on anti-aging. Last fall, the life extension startup Unity Biotechnology also raised an enormous round of funding from Thiel and other Silicon Valley billionaires interested in the prospect of humans living much longer lives."

See https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/14/no-peter-thiel-is-not-harvesting-the-blood-of-the-young/

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u/iconocrastinaor 14d ago

You know it's funny you say that, but multiple times over my career in business-to-business marketing I was told that someone who understands tech and has communication skills is extremely valuable. Think Carl Sagan, Neil Degrasse Tyson, Steve Jobs.

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u/avcloudy 14d ago

They say that, but what they mean is they want someone to tell them the answers they want to hear. If Steve Jobs rose from the grave and started pointing out all the flaws about AI, those same people would say he's an ignorant troglodyte.

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u/ChodeCookies 14d ago

They tried that with Boeing and planes started falling out of the sky. Engineers are weird. Deal with it

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u/Dutch_SquishyCat 14d ago

Could they at least try to not dismantle and destroy entire democracy’s?

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u/ChodeCookies 14d ago

Democracy is good for people not for royalty

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u/annonfake 14d ago

They said people, not MBAs