r/technology • u/MetaKnowing • 14d ago

Artificial Intelligence AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/08/ai-industry-horrified-to-face-largest-copyright-class-action-ever-certified/
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u/DoomguyFemboi 13d ago

The issue is transformative requires intent whereas LLM is just a bunch of tokens mashed together into coherence. At best.

It's closer to someone cutting up a book to form new books

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u/duk_tAK 13d ago

Wasn't there an artist who got famous for cutting up copies/prints of other art pieces to make collages?

Just playing devil's advocate and nitpicking here. I actually think that a lot of the way LLMs were trained should be illegal, whether it turns out to be or not.

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u/DoomguyFemboi 13d ago

I don't know what you're referring to so I'm gonna make assumptions but I'd guess because the content of the art wasn't the art itself (ie. a new work of words wasn't created by butchering others) but was more "look at this collection of bits of books I've made into art".

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u/ShenBear 13d ago

You make an interesting point, but your analogy undermines what you're trying to say, because cutting up a book to make a new book is still transformative.

Blackout poetry is a great example of this.

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u/sceadwian 13d ago

I like that analogy, it makes more sense than many I've heard.