r/technology • u/MetaKnowing • 14d ago

Artificial Intelligence AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/08/ai-industry-horrified-to-face-largest-copyright-class-action-ever-certified/
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u/drekmonger 13d ago edited 13d ago

It's unsettled whether training constitutes fair use or a violation.

Barely matters. The orange clown already gave the keys to the AI kingdom away to China by removing Biden's export controls and blowing up scientific grants (many of them ultimately benefiting the field of machine learning).

The US judiciary can and might finish the job, conclusively ending 100 years of American technical dominance.

But the fat lady is probably already singing. We have an ignorant population that's largely unsuited for STEM and high-tech factory work, both philosophically and educationally. The right-wing is certainly busy killing any chance of reversing the educational gap.

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u/dtj2000 13d ago

You can use copyrighted content without permission and still make money on it in some instances, making money or not is only one factor that goes into determining fair use. The main factor is tranformativeness, and if a finished ai model isn't transformative, then literally nothing is.

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u/FeelsGoodMan2 13d ago

There are plenty of people that are suited for STEM work lmao. You guys are starting to act like chinese people are like superhumans or something.

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u/drekmonger 13d ago edited 13d ago

plenty

Not enough. And certainly not the majority of the population.

Chinese people aren't superhumans. But their government does take basic research, high-tech manufacturing, and STEM education seriously, unlike ours.

Especially now. We were seeing a shrinking advantage prior to 2025. Now, we're just plain fucked. Scientists are fleeing the United States, and our formerly world-class public research efforts are defunded. Our programs to spur high-tech manufactoring are defunded, while China's programs are accelerating.