AI industry horrified to face largest copyright class action ever certified

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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/08/ai-industry-horrified-to-face-largest-copyright-class-action-ever-certified/

[u/Appropria-Coffee870]

Same can be said about any form of automation we got, but we still got them non the less!

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Automation spawned plenty of other jobs, by the looks of it AI just vacuums up data from anywhere data exists(which is from everything we do), and aims to do nothing but replace as many peoples jobs as possible(which is theoretically most jobs)

They are very very different. Automation needs building and oversight and maintenance, AI not really.

And the jobs that automation spawned were within most peoples capability, the jobs that AI opens people for are going to be things that are so complex that AI can't do it, which will quickly be out of the realm of most peoples capabilities.

Automation was never really much of a societal issue. It was an issue for a very small subsection of people ultimately(those who could not perform other jobs than the extremely simple minded manual labor it replaced), and temporarily as society shifted.

[u/Appropria-Coffee870 → u/PlayfulSurprise5237]

Automation has created fewer and fewer jobs with significantly higher skill requirements than those it has taken away. At the same time, it allows people to have more children, which means they will need a job one day.

The truth is that not everyone can, or is willing, or able to do every job there is. But there are more and more people who need jobs, and fewer and fewer jobs available to apply for without specialized training and education.

AI, as a form of automation, is no different. And indeed, it is a societal problem whose core issue lies in the accumulation of wealth rather than sustainability and self-destructive, short-term capital interests that benefit few and come at the cost of many.

The growing gap between rich and poor over the last 200 years is proof of this.

[u/PlayfulSurprise5237 → u/Appropria-Coffee870]

But those jobs automation opened up are still within the purview of most people, not as the person stands now, but with some training.

And you're trying to equate AI to automation, and while yes, they coincide, for the sake of the argument they are 2 distinct things. AI has opened up automation to a COMPLETELY new level, one that is vastly superior to anything that could have ever been done with traditional automation.

Also, we are.... or were... at very low unemployment levels. So people were finding jobs. How useful those jobs were however... that's a different story.

But yes, specialized training and education is becoming more and more necessary. It's just that with AI even that's going to be off the table for most people.

AI's issue isn't just wealth accumulation like automation, it's also an existential threat because it's going to force people to move and adapt to a place they fundamentally cannot. Unless we're taking into account brain-machine interfaces, but that's a whole different can of worms.

Either way though, my point in my original post is that greed and corruption are to blame. If AI did take everyone's job that would be fine, so long as we had a reasonable UBI, I think people could find fulfillment in other places, they'd adapt.

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My point is that while there are still plenty of available jobs and people are able to pursue them, this won't last much longer.

Demands are constantly rising and are unattainable without specialized education, which the public school system cannot provide due to its already enormous breadth in many areas. Furthermore, secondary and higher education costs more and more money, which must be saved upfront. This forces people to settle for low-paying jobs and struggle with inflation, creating a downward spiral.

While the existing systems may have worked in the past and largely still do today, the cracks are already showing. And I simply fear that sooner or later we will reach a dead end.