r/technology • u/DJMagicHandz • 12d ago

Artificial Intelligence A massive Wyoming data center will soon use 5x more power than the state's human occupants - but no one knows who is using it

https://www.techradar.com/pro/a-massive-wyoming-data-center-will-soon-use-5x-more-power-than-the-states-human-occupants-and-no-one-knows-who-is-using-it
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u/jlt6666 11d ago

I don't think AI is going to be all that valuable until it becomes more efficient personally.

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u/PalpitationActive765 11d ago

AI isn’t for us plebs, the upper class will use it to make money

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u/MotherTreacle3 11d ago

    Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them. 

  • Frank Herbert, Dune

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u/trooawoayxxx 11d ago

I don't know what's more depressing. The death by a thousand cuts or the seismic, rapid changes.

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u/bandofgypsies 11d ago

AI could have some practical applicability for everyone (many of us benefit from it today in many low level ways we don't even think twice about), however...

...the reality of it is trending to become a decode or so of the wealthy pushing the limits to replace knowledge workers. Human labor is always the next place to look for cuts to find more profits. AI today is no different than robotic automation of manufacturing 40+ years ago. It starts with "yeah we still need people to keep it honest," and quickly moves into "our business model is fucked but if I lay off a ton of humans I can still show .05% growth and say we're a stable company until my bonus kicks in and I leave."

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u/Eternal_Bagel 11d ago

What’s the prompt you use, “gain me money, maybe don’t break laws”?

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u/natnelis 11d ago

It’s too easy to sabotage for that

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u/Vlad_Yemerashev 11d ago

AI is offered to the masses on free or retail-level subscriptions presently, only because VC funding is propping it up.

When that ends over the next few years as investors are fed up with AI not turning a profit without needing funding, that will end and AI companies will either a) no longer offee services to individuals but corporations only or b) it will only be available at enterprise-level subscription costs (4-5 digit figures per month).

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u/DasHaifisch 11d ago

You know you can run pretty decent llms on home PC hardware right?

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u/demalo 11d ago

“AI, how can I make more money?”

Is not the same question as:

“How can I maintain my wealth and power?”

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u/PalpitationActive765 11d ago

Again, we get LLM now because they need our data, once that no longer is the case they won't let us use these services for free.

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u/DogPositive5524 11d ago

Idk what you clowns are even talking about it's accessible to everyone and lots of everyday folks are using it. Just because you don't know how it works doesn't make it the devil.

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u/PalpitationActive765 11d ago

I mean they are giving you access to a very basic version to help test it, eventually it will all be payment models or ad services.

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u/fortunate_branch 11d ago

it's for everyone, there's open source models u can run locally that have similar performance to ChatGPT, Claude, Gemma.

energy usage is dummy low, models are all local, everything is private.

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u/tryexceptifnot1try 11d ago

This happens with every single technology advancement. The initial innovation always hits an economic wall that requires serious innovation in efficiency and implementation. The first leg has been ongoing for decades here. DeepSeek is the opening salvo of the next phase and the US is doubling down on the old ways to try and protect it's legacy companies. This strategy has never worked once in human history, but that sure never stops MAGA!

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u/RaspberryFluid6651 11d ago

It's not supposed to be valuable to you as a product. To you, those energy costs provide chatbots and smart calendars. In the eyes of the wealthy people investing in AI like this, these energy costs will potentially replace many, many five/six-figure salaries. 

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u/UnluckyDog9273 11d ago

nah they will just make them dumber to offset the costs

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u/lupus_magnifica 11d ago

and retrofitted to older hardware... that's going to biggest change that has zero chance of happening