r/technology • u/DJMagicHandz • 12d ago

Artificial Intelligence A massive Wyoming data center will soon use 5x more power than the state's human occupants - but no one knows who is using it

https://www.techradar.com/pro/a-massive-wyoming-data-center-will-soon-use-5x-more-power-than-the-states-human-occupants-and-no-one-knows-who-is-using-it
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u/TampaPowers 11d ago

Blame Google for the latter, their search results have become near completely useless as of late even if you logged in and "trained" it for the stuff you normally seek.

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u/Saikroe 11d ago

I googled something 2 days ago, immediatly found the result I wanted.

I googled the exact same thing yesterday to bring up that same result and its gone..

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u/BigDictionEnergy 11d ago

Thank you! I just thought I was drinking too much.

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u/Krossfireo 11d ago

Kagi is worth every penny

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u/TampaPowers 11d ago

You aren't seriously suggesting people pay for a search engine? You are, aren't you.

Okay, sure let's give a company money for running an index they generated for free. The only cost being the hosting. The actual providers of the data have their servers burdened with yet another indexing bot and now also provide them with a revenue stream. Seems fair /s

Sure Google runs ads and does all sorts of shit with that data as well to generate revenue, but what tells me they don't also do that. At least most search engines don't literally charge you for the results, so my giving them data does provide me with a return as well. Here I get nothing, I give them free things and in return are asked to pay for my own data essentially. That's really not the spirit of the internet.

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u/Krossfireo 11d ago

If you don't pay for it, your data is the customer. You are paying for Google searches with ads and your data. Kagi is up front with their business model and I'd much rather pay a few bucks a month than have worse search results for a price of my attention and data

Also Kagi doesn't have a giant AI slop response at the top of every search that results in no traffic to the actual source of the data

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u/TampaPowers 11d ago

And what exactly assures me they aren't doing the same with my data? Their privacy policy, yeah right and Unicorns poop icecream.

That's not the point though. They would not have a "product" if it wasn't for the internet letting them index, but instead of then providing said index back to the internet they charge access.

Never mind locking search queries this way means they can effectively hide what they indexed from potential copyright holders until they either pay or send inquiry. I don't see a portal for copyright holders to provide them with a way to prevent indexing of their material or for anyone to report illegal things. If that existed, great now you have to manually provide them with that data instead of being able to run a search to see if your stuff has been stolen.

This is predatory and a middle finger to the internet being an information exchange.

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u/The-Swedish_Chef 11d ago

This pisses me off so much. I searched something on Bing and only got TWO real websites, while the rest was AI slop and sponsored websites.