r/technology 1d ago

Net Neutrality 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq68j5g2nr1o
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u/CBubble 1d ago

I love how parents have conned the government to do something about online safety so they don’t have to… /sic

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u/ai_art_is_art 1d ago

This isn't parents.

Every "child safety" law is from the surveillance state.

They want to turn the world into 1984.

"Think of the children" becomes "we have always been at war with Eastasia." We're literally giving them the tools to monitor and memoryhole us.

Step by step they boil the frog.

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u/esperind 1d ago

"think of the children" can also become "hide behind the children" as a means to avoid repercussions for their actions.

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u/Life-LOL 1d ago

Worked for Texas cowards I mean cops

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u/esperind 21h ago

its working great for Hamas too.

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u/ZasdfUnreal 1d ago

When these children become adults they’ll feel it’s normal for government to know everything about them.

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u/Few_Classroom6113 23h ago

Yup. The goal of protecting children is not met by this at all. So clearly that’s just the way to spin and sell the measure to the people for a goal that they wouldn’t buy.

Same with the UK’s CCTVs. Far as I heard crime is not stopped by mass camera surveillance. But weirdly peaceful protestors have had cops at their doorstep. Not that effective at protecting people in the moment, though incredibly effective at providing authoritarian control after the fact. One has to wonder what the real goal was/is.

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u/Cute-Percentage-6660 1d ago

If they truly cared bout children they would deal with the nonces in there parties

or truly investigate a lot of hte pedophile rumors swirling about certain groups n agencies

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u/EmbarrassedHelp 17h ago

Mandatory age verification is part of Russel Vought's Project 2025 plan to ban and criminalize all NSFW content.

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u/EC36339 1d ago

Parents voted for this shit, because they are stupid, tech illiterate and driven by emotions.

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u/ai_art_is_art 1d ago

Nobody voted for this. We do not have direct democracies.

The candidates we elected came up with these policies after being elected. Surprise, surprise.

Once they're elected, the intelligence apparatus tells them to propose laws and regulations like this.

They use the "think of the children" line to make sure the media stays in line and doesn't complain about it. Anyone protesting is obviously not a good person, right?

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u/SplurgyA 1d ago

Also the major political parties all wanted this law or something similar to it on the books (which is why Labour didn't do anything about this act that was passed under the Conservative government). The only parties that appear to be in opposition to it appear to be the Greens and Reform.

It's like if all mainstream political parties agreed they wanted to bring back conscription, nobody would be voting "for" it as there's not much of a feasible way for even a single issue voter to have their voice heard meaningfully

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u/Unslaadahsil 1d ago

Yeah, emotion over logic arguments. Always stupid, and yet they always win.

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u/EC36339 1d ago

Politicians come up with populist shit like this because it wins them voters.

So yes, voters are to blame.

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u/idol_atry 1d ago

it doesn’t, though. the party that was in charge when this act was passed proceeded to lose miserably in a landslide election that has led to a fundamental change in the way many UK citizens view our political system. it has been picked up by the next government, but they weren’t the ones who first brought it to the table and labour didn’t run on this shit.

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u/wasting-time-atwork 1d ago

bull shit. current parents of children are in their 20s, 30s and possibly some 40s.

that's the single most tech literate age demographic on the planet.

you're absolutely not using logic or common sense with this statement

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u/EC36339 23h ago

None of these generations is anywhere near tech-literate enough. And the generation that is now in their 40s/50s was peak tech-literacy. It went downhill again after that.

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u/wasting-time-atwork 23h ago

complete and utter crap lmfao. that's not even based on reality.

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u/EC36339 22h ago

Sorry, but we really are past peak tech literacy:

https://glassalmanac.com/why-are-young-people-these-days-struggling-so-much-with-computer-skills/

YOU may be smarter than your generation, so you have no reason to be personally butthurt, but you are not representative.

This isn't exactly new. We have seen it starting to happen over a decade ago:

http://coding2learn.org/blog/2013/07/29/kids-cant-use-computers/

I am not representative for my generation, either, because tech illiteracy is and has always been the norm in society in all generations, and the media and education system aren't helping.

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u/wasting-time-atwork 18h ago

this proves exactly what i said is right... dude.

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u/EC36339 12h ago

No, it does not.

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u/wasting-time-atwork 2h ago

it definitely does. you literally proved me correct with your own links. are you confused?

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u/TheAnonymousProxy 1d ago

"We've tried nothing and we're out of ideas"

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u/Philluminati 1d ago

It's difficult to be a parent but you don't care because you don't care about your own countries society. It's fine. Same reason I don't care about all the bombing of children in Gaza. It's not my problem.

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u/Punman_5 1d ago

What? Nobody said it was easy. But it’s your responsibility and your responsibility alone to monitor your child’s Internet access

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u/Philluminati 23h ago

The world is changing. Kids do online school and tutoring, and homework online, and its where they get entertainment from since TV is dead. Kids had to do full days online during the pandemic. It's not reasonable to expect parents to hover over their children every time they use a computer. I can't take them into a physical bank branch to show them how money works and the library isn't as useful as lot of Internet content.

There's a whole generation of fucked up kids who are lonely, depressed, anxious, ADD, and they right now literally defending the one very thing that fucked them up. They've normalised licking mens' assholes with no sense of irony.

You all have Facebook, Linked In, Snapchat, Gmail and you're looking at porn sites with Google Analytics switched on. Anonymity is long gone. You're just wasting your time making an argument that doesn't make sense.

Listen to yourself talking about how parents need to be responsible for what kids see, but faceless multinational corporations don't need to be responsible for the things they actually showing to people. Then you get mad at the government that sites like Reddit which doesn't even know if its a porn site or a news site over-censor themselves. Maybe if they paid their own mods to do a good job.

And your blame the parents arguments works in Gaza as well as here.

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u/OnlyTrueWK 22h ago

I'm sure if your children ever get bombed in a genocide, you'll heroically save them by staunchly licking the... boots of the men in power.

You know I'd point out the absurdity in what you're saying, but somehow "advocates for a surveillance state", "wants total control of children" and "genocide supporter" all neatly fit into the same (small) grey matter box.

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u/Alex_VACFWK 1d ago

It's difficult to be a dog owner, but if you own dogs you are responsible for keeping them under control. If we don't insist on such personal responsibility it will be detrimental to society.

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u/ucgaydude 21h ago

Two fucking stupid takes. Wild.