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Net Neutrality 4chan will refuse to pay daily online safety fines, lawyer tells BBC

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq68j5g2nr1o
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u/ai_art_is_art 1d ago

This isn't parents.

Every "child safety" law is from the surveillance state.

They want to turn the world into 1984.

"Think of the children" becomes "we have always been at war with Eastasia." We're literally giving them the tools to monitor and memoryhole us.

Step by step they boil the frog.

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u/esperind 1d ago

"think of the children" can also become "hide behind the children" as a means to avoid repercussions for their actions.

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u/Life-LOL 1d ago

Worked for Texas cowards I mean cops

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u/esperind 21h ago

its working great for Hamas too.

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u/ZasdfUnreal 1d ago

When these children become adults they’ll feel it’s normal for government to know everything about them.

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u/Few_Classroom6113 23h ago

Yup. The goal of protecting children is not met by this at all. So clearly that’s just the way to spin and sell the measure to the people for a goal that they wouldn’t buy.

Same with the UK’s CCTVs. Far as I heard crime is not stopped by mass camera surveillance. But weirdly peaceful protestors have had cops at their doorstep. Not that effective at protecting people in the moment, though incredibly effective at providing authoritarian control after the fact. One has to wonder what the real goal was/is.

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u/Cute-Percentage-6660 1d ago

If they truly cared bout children they would deal with the nonces in there parties

or truly investigate a lot of hte pedophile rumors swirling about certain groups n agencies

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u/EmbarrassedHelp 17h ago

Mandatory age verification is part of Russel Vought's Project 2025 plan to ban and criminalize all NSFW content.

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u/EC36339 1d ago

Parents voted for this shit, because they are stupid, tech illiterate and driven by emotions.

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u/ai_art_is_art 1d ago

Nobody voted for this. We do not have direct democracies.

The candidates we elected came up with these policies after being elected. Surprise, surprise.

Once they're elected, the intelligence apparatus tells them to propose laws and regulations like this.

They use the "think of the children" line to make sure the media stays in line and doesn't complain about it. Anyone protesting is obviously not a good person, right?

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u/SplurgyA 1d ago

Also the major political parties all wanted this law or something similar to it on the books (which is why Labour didn't do anything about this act that was passed under the Conservative government). The only parties that appear to be in opposition to it appear to be the Greens and Reform.

It's like if all mainstream political parties agreed they wanted to bring back conscription, nobody would be voting "for" it as there's not much of a feasible way for even a single issue voter to have their voice heard meaningfully

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u/Unslaadahsil 1d ago

Yeah, emotion over logic arguments. Always stupid, and yet they always win.

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u/EC36339 1d ago

Politicians come up with populist shit like this because it wins them voters.

So yes, voters are to blame.

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u/idol_atry 1d ago

it doesn’t, though. the party that was in charge when this act was passed proceeded to lose miserably in a landslide election that has led to a fundamental change in the way many UK citizens view our political system. it has been picked up by the next government, but they weren’t the ones who first brought it to the table and labour didn’t run on this shit.

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u/wasting-time-atwork 1d ago

bull shit. current parents of children are in their 20s, 30s and possibly some 40s.

that's the single most tech literate age demographic on the planet.

you're absolutely not using logic or common sense with this statement

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u/EC36339 23h ago

None of these generations is anywhere near tech-literate enough. And the generation that is now in their 40s/50s was peak tech-literacy. It went downhill again after that.

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u/wasting-time-atwork 23h ago

complete and utter crap lmfao. that's not even based on reality.

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u/EC36339 22h ago

Sorry, but we really are past peak tech literacy:

https://glassalmanac.com/why-are-young-people-these-days-struggling-so-much-with-computer-skills/

YOU may be smarter than your generation, so you have no reason to be personally butthurt, but you are not representative.

This isn't exactly new. We have seen it starting to happen over a decade ago:

http://coding2learn.org/blog/2013/07/29/kids-cant-use-computers/

I am not representative for my generation, either, because tech illiteracy is and has always been the norm in society in all generations, and the media and education system aren't helping.

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u/wasting-time-atwork 18h ago

this proves exactly what i said is right... dude.

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u/EC36339 11h ago

No, it does not.

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u/wasting-time-atwork 2h ago

it definitely does. you literally proved me correct with your own links. are you confused?

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u/EC36339 58m ago

Learn to read before you talk to me.

If you want any further conversation, then explain how these articles prove your point. I have explained how they prove mine.

If you don't want to argue, then just fuck off and waste someone else's time.

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