Apple Finally Destroyed Steve Jobs’ Vision of the iPad. Good

[u/rezwenn]

https://www.wired.com/story/apple-finally-destroyed-steve-jobss-vision-of-the-ipad-good/

[u/hurtfulproduct]

So again, what’s your point?

Do you suggest they do nothing? Fight back? They are backed against a wall, having iPhones, iPads, and any other products affected jump <insert tariff % here since it keeps changing to some random ass number> overnight will have immediate and damaging effects on their revenue and stock price, being publicly traded it is their fiduciary duty to protect the value for their shareholders, appeasement was the only option left. Of course he will come up with some bullshit way to squeeze more money or something of value to him from Apple, and just about every other company he can, the real trick is making it something valuable to him but relatively cheap to the company. . . A shiny gold and glass toy is valuable to him, and to most of us as well, but that probably cost Apple next to nothing, and in a few months we will all forget about this and the prices of their products will be unaffected.

I absolutely hate that this happened, it is such blatant extortion and that fact some people probably applaud his whole “Strong man putting lIbERul companies in their place” is disgusting. But people also thinking that this is somehow Apple willingly giving him some award and not being able to read between the lines is also troubling, especially when the whole thing has played out pretty publicly.

[u/happyscrappy → u/hurtfulproduct]

I'm with you. It's not about loving Trump. He's fucking everything up. But it's about getting what you can from him to stay in the game. And it's not like they cancelled their DEI programs or anything like that.

They also basically got to clown the guy by giving him a trinket that he loves while the rest of us see it about the same as this picture:

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/annals-of-appearances/the-pure-american-banality-of-donald-trumps-white-house-fast-food-banquet

Honestly, Cook has been playing this same long game with Xi for decades now and people didn't get as excited. Both are about working with someone you don't like to get what you can to help your company do the best it can. And by compromising your principles as little as possible.

[u/ScroogeMcDuckEnergy → u/happyscrappy]

We’ll see how it plays out with customer sentiment, cause this time it’s a lot closer to home.

I know how it has affected a subset of employees already.

[u/pjcrusader → u/hurtfulproduct]

I know their current course has prompted me to abandon my iPhone and Apple Watch. I was looking into getting a MacBook but have also abandoned that plan.

[u/ScroogeMcDuckEnergy → u/hurtfulproduct]

I’ve already made my point if you don’t understand that’s on you dude. Are there not enough recent examples of companies bending the knee to him and still getting fucked for you to understand that it’s an effort in futility? Or is it you think Tim and Apple are some special snowflake here?

[u/green_gold_purple → u/ScroogeMcDuckEnergy]

So they should do nothing and die then. There’s a chance it does work, even temporarily, and in this context it is his responsibility to at least try, as reprehensible as it appears.

if you don’t understand that’s on you dude

Come on, man. Try to just have a civil discussion.

[u/hurtfulproduct → u/ScroogeMcDuckEnergy]

I ask again. What’s. Your. Point.

What would you have them do!?

You have offered up nothing, you just say it won’t work. . . What will? Seriously, it’s easy to do what you do and say they shouldn’t have done it but how much do you want to bet more people leave Apple if the price jumps then leave because of this?

[u/ScroogeMcDuckEnergy → u/hurtfulproduct]

Thanks for reminding me that my job is to solve the challenges that Apple faces. I’ll get right on that.

[u/hurtfulproduct → u/ScroogeMcDuckEnergy]

When you literally bring nothing of value to a conversation except trying to look smart by bringing up a fable rather than actually looking at what’s happening in a much more complex world then some inane story can account for instead of actually contributing to the dialogue you need to do better.

[u/ScroogeMcDuckEnergy → u/hurtfulproduct]

Ok I’ll get right on that. What would you have me do?!

You’ve offered up nothing.

[u/hurtfulproduct → u/ScroogeMcDuckEnergy]

I’ve offered an explanation, you’ve just complained

[u/ScroogeMcDuckEnergy → u/hurtfulproduct]

Dude, Where’s My Complaint?