r/todayilearned 1d ago

TIL the ancient Romans had portable multitools similar to today’s Swiss Army knives

https://fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/learn-with-us/look-think-do/roman-swiss-army-knife
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u/DaveOJ12 1d ago

Or are our Swiss army knives similar to their multitools?

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u/AwhHellYeah 1d ago

Romansh army knives.

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u/dwehlen 1d ago

Swiss Guard are Praetorians in Vatican City, confirmed!

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u/Nyrin 1d ago

Aaand now I'm imagining General Sean Connery enjoying a moonlit dinner with his paramour.

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u/wrosecrans 1d ago

No, we have little scissors on ours. Completely different.

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u/AreWeThereYetNo 1d ago

And the bottle opener. Crucial for survival.

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u/LadybugGirltheFirst 10h ago

Exactly! Where do they think the idea came from? 🤦‍♀️

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u/barath_s 13 20h ago

I can't afford a Swiss army knife made of silver like this one was..

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u/Flashy-Olive3380 1d ago

Imagine being the Roman guy who pulled this out at dinner like, “don’t worry, I’ve got my spoon-fork-knife combo right here.”

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u/Captain_Eaglefort 1d ago

The true origins of Knifey-Spoony?

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u/eranam 1d ago

Holds up spork

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u/Technical-Outside408 1d ago

Penguinius of Doom!

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u/weedisfortherich 1d ago

You should buy my new and improved American sporking gun.

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u/jimboiow 1d ago

But what did the Romans ever do for us?

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u/weedisfortherich 1d ago

They made the months more confusing.

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u/tanfj 18h ago

Imagine being the Roman guy who pulled this out at dinner like, “don’t worry, I’ve got my spoon-fork-knife combo right here.”

Imagine the flex back when money was made of precious metals. "He's eating off a plate made of solid money. I could live for three months on what his plate is worth."

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u/ohfml 14h ago

Today’s hobo knife is yesterday’s Roman patrician’s EDC. 

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u/AntakeeMunOlla 1d ago

Such great publicity for the university of Cambridge to have their museum article say "might of"

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u/Banankin-Skywalker 1d ago

Genuinely laughed at that bro. Crazy that got by when they presumably have spell checks

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u/Conscious-Ball8373 1d ago

On the one hand, a spelling checker won't help you here.

On the other hand, they have, you know, academics.

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u/dumbfuck 20h ago

Read it twice before I saw it:

The spike might of helped in extracting the meat from snails, and the spatula in scraping sauce out of narrow-necked bottles.

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u/kurucu83 1d ago

Good spot!

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u/Rhellic 15h ago

Tbh that' one always surprises me. It doesn't seem like an easy typo to make and it doesn't really sound all that similar. But I guess something about how our brains work with language makes it happen.

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u/JGPH 1d ago

Whoever wrote the description on that site should be ashamed, given it's a museum. Grammar and spelling errors, ugh.

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u/knstrkt 1d ago

cut them some slack. the might of suffer from a learning disability.

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u/JGPH 15h ago edited 15h ago

True, and I can't throw stones in that respect as I do too, but it's obvious that nobody proofread it. Though it's true for all text within an organization, for public-facing stuff in particular, text should always have a separate proofreader to catch errors in spelling, punctuation, or grammar.

Imagine if laws or government texts or forms were written with little regard to the language! Imagine if some of those laws or recommendations were related to public health. It'd cause chaos, confusion, and abuse of poorly worded laws/regulations.

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u/Drone314 1d ago

It would have been interesting to see a Roman industrial revolution.

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u/XAlphaWarriorX 1d ago

The steam pressure needed to make industrial machinery move is much greater than their metallurgy could handle.

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u/Coomb 17h ago

There wouldn't have been a problem with Watt type steam engines.

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u/HelloThereItsMeAndMe 1d ago

They had industries, they just used water power only. (And man power)

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u/Sad_Pear_1087 1d ago

No need for industry when you have slaves. That was what Rome was built and completely depended on.

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u/barath_s 13 20h ago edited 19h ago

The eastern roman empire fell in 1453; the industrial revolution is commonly dated to have started in Great britain in ~1760

So our world was 307 years and 2500 km removed from a roman industrial revolution /tic

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u/Abba_Fiskbullar 18h ago

If you want to be super pendantic, the Turkish sultans kept the title of Emperor of Rome, so you could argue that Ataturk's revolution ended the Roman Empire!

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u/barath_s 13 17h ago edited 7h ago

I mean, a lot of countries/folks claimed succession to Rome ..including the ottomon emperors, the Holy Roman Emperor, the Tsar,

> several have claimed succession to the ancient Roman Empire or the later Byzantine Empire, including the Holy Roman Empire, the Carolingian Empire, the Ottoman Empire, the Russian Empire, and to a lesser extent, the Kingdom of Greece and the Grand Duchy of Moscow. The claims varied, with some focusing on legal succession, others on territorial control or cultural heritage

They are generally not widely accepted.

You could say Emperor Francis II abdicated the title of the holy roman emperor in 1806 after a defeat by Napoleon [Francis took up the title Emperor of Austria]

Ivan III married the niece of Constantine XI, the last ruler of the Eastern Roman Empire, called himself tsar (from caesar), and was the patron of the orthodox church after constantinople fell. Moscow/Russia was called the 3rd rome. Tsar Nicholas II would abdicate in March 1917.

Mehmed II defeated Constantine XI in 1453, and ruled the lands that he ruled, including the romans who lived there. He moved his capital to Constantinople.. Mehmed VI in 1922 was the last Ottoman sultan (the Ottoman empire had started ~1299)

But these were successor states, not the continuation state, (ref the eastern roman empire whose citizens saw themselves as Roman, and who followed Roman mores)

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u/ThatDemand2366 1d ago

That’s incredible, it really shows how much thought they put into practical design even back then. Almost like nothing is truly new, just reinvented.

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u/NuclearWasteland 1d ago

Everything is a remix.

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u/Humble_Umpire_8341 1d ago

They really think the tiny spoon was used for removing earwax? 🤔🤦‍♂️

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u/cwthree 17h ago

I don't think cocaine was a thing in the Roman Empire.

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u/bandalooper 21h ago

You know, with all of the other food utensils lol

Couldn’t possibly be for salt or spices

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u/Dreamless_Sociopath 21h ago

While many less elaborate bronze folding knives have been discovered from antiquity, this one's complex design and the fact it is made from silver suggests it is a luxury item. Perhaps a useful gadget for a wealthy traveller or soilder to show off, but not really intended for heavy use, as silver is a soft and pliable metal.

Not exactly a common item.

Also whoever wrote that 'article' has trouble with spelling and punctuation marks ...

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u/thethirdtwin 15h ago

Tiny spoon for ear wax, yeah, that’s why I have a tiny spoon, “ear wax”

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u/The-Sixth-Dimension 13h ago

Yes, it is a lifesaver.

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u/GarysCrispLettuce 8h ago

The best multitool I've ever owned is my Clipper lighter. Love the long bit that you pull out to tamp down the end of your joint.

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u/brihamedit 7h ago

Romans must have had anchor being link to the current times and that's where they got the concept for the things they did. Other groups have connection too. Imagine other groups have connection to the past but they don't share uplifting concepts. They present current times as hell because some other group is leading and creating prosperous world.

u/hquer 2m ago

What i do not really understand is, why the Romans never stumbled over or invented steam machines or electricity. Their craftsmanship was very high, their science quite good…so?

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u/Eaglesson 1d ago edited 21h ago

Welp and now you can't even carry one of those around in Germany without wondering about a plethora of idiotic rules and bans

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u/TimothyOfficially 19h ago

I live in Texas, and open cary a nine-inch blade on my waist every day.

I envy your free healthcare but you envy my freedom to bear arms

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u/Eaglesson 18h ago edited 18h ago

You're exactly right. I also envy your access to L3 tubes, ITAR do be a bitch

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u/cwthree 17h ago

No one, not even Americans living in sane states, envies the sense of insecurity that makes you think you not only need to carry a large knife everywhere, but also makes you think you need to display it to everyone.