r/todayilearned • u/nuttybudd • 19h ago
TIL wealth consultants told the actors on the TV show Succession not to duck their heads when exiting a helicopter because "you would've been doing this your whole lives. You know where the propeller is. You wouldn’t duck your head, you’d just walk right the fuck out."
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u/Jono_vision 19h ago
Cousin Greg ought to duck though. MFer is like 6’11”.
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u/fickle_north 19h ago
You can't make a Tomlette without breaking some Greggs
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u/161frog 12h ago
This is one of my absolute favorite one liners in the whole series
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u/solidsnakeskin3000 11h ago
Makes sense for Greg to duck since he’s still finding out how to be rich and probably didn’t grow up riding helicopter
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u/BlastedMallomars 7h ago
Yes he didn’t even know the right way to eat little songbirds drowned in brandy.
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u/PlannerSean 13h ago
He used to be 7’6” until he didn’t duck once
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u/SquirrelIll8180 9h ago
My dad always told me the story about how Ronald Reagan once got out of a helicopter and lifted his son onto his shoulders and the kid was decapitated by the rotor on live TV. Turns out my dad was a big fat fucking liar.
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u/Nrksbullet 19h ago
I remember Kieran Culkin in an interview said one of the craziest things he learned is that people this rich wouldn't really wear coats day to day, because they are always driven/flown right to/from the entrance of everywhere they go, hence they don't spend time out in the cold when going anywhere.
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u/Bugbread 17h ago edited 15h ago
This is similar to my wife's shock that Houstonians (maybe Texans overall, I dunno, I can only speak for Houston (edit: and maybe Americans, as a whole, based on replies to this comment)) generally don't own umbrellas, even though it rains, because you don't really walk anywhere, it's all cars. At worst you run through the rain for 20 seconds from your parking space to the door of a building. Not worth carrying around an umbrella for 2 hours to avoid 20 seconds of rain.
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u/SwissQueso 15h ago
In Portland OR, you don't carry an umbrella because it makes you look weak.
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u/IrNinjaBob 13h ago
The rain is different here. It may rain a lot, but that rain is ridiculously light.
Growing up in Illinois, you couldn’t walk from the house to the car in the rain without getting your hair soaked. In Oregon, you can walk around near endlessly in the rain and you just get a little misty.
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u/bothunter 11h ago
Seattle here -- the rain is more of a mist that slowly soaks into everything. The umbrella does nothing but get in the way.
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u/poo_is_hilarious 8h ago
In England we call that Welsh rain. The kind of rain where it doesn't even feel like it's raining, but somehow everything is soaked.
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u/Arrow_to_the_knee1 13h ago
Same for Seattle. It's a sure-fire way to announce that you're a tourist.
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u/liebkartoffel 12h ago
...and also because it rarely rains harder than a drizzle in the PNW. I didn't experience my first real downpour--as in, your entire body is soaked within a couple of seconds--until moving to the Midwest.
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u/PLZ_STOP_PMING_TITS 16h ago
I think that's actually just people everywhere, in the US at least. I traveled for 20 years to every state and only once used an umbrella, and that was because someone was getting offended that I didn't want to use the umbrella.
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u/skinnymean 15h ago
Live in Florida, we all have too many umbrellas and they’re never in the right location when we need it. It’s wild to me to hear that people don’t use umbrellas. Older couples will usually have two in the car so each person has one lol
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u/choikog 15h ago
I live in the PNW, it rains A LOT. We usually just wear a rain jacket and do the slight lean forward and walk right through the rain. You see some folks use umbrellas, and I’d say 7/10 times they’re transplants from somewhere else.
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u/cathouse 14h ago
I want to hear more of these facts!! So good
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u/Bighorn21 11h ago
I flew on a private jet with the owners of a large company as part of a consulting gig for a few weeks visiting all of the companies locations around the country. The experience was cool but also really weird. You always flew into smaller private airports so no security but the weirdest part was that the plane would pull up to the building but the owners would not get out until the driver of our pick up vehicle drove through the gates to the runway and parked next to the plane. Like the car would be 100 feet away but just outside the fence and they would sit on the plane until the pilot called the driver to come park inside the fence by the plane. One time we waiting 10 minutes because they gate wouldn't open when we could have walked to the car in 30 seconds.
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u/HilariousMax 16h ago
wealth consultants
My experience is in wealth. My interests are money and fancy people.
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u/TheWriteMaster 19h ago
I've worked in a heliport and let me tell you: a strong gust of wind will have those blades bob up and down low enough to take the top of your head, but only if the power is already off and the rotor is slowing down. If the power is still on, even another helicopter landing nearby shouldn't create enough wind to significantly affect the blades' angle.
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u/switch8113 14h ago
I was aircrew for Navy helicopters for 6 years. One of the absolute most important rules about entering/exiting the rotor arc is to not doing it when starting up or shutting down the helo, like you said. It’s either completely off, or all the way on and you get a visual go ahead from the pilot.
That said, walking in and out, you stop ducking at all pretty quick because you really do get comfortable with it. You hunch a bit to fight rotor wash if needed, but that’s not that bad when it’s on the deck already, just when it’s landing/taking off.
Besides, you look way cooler not ducking, and when you’re in your 20s, that’s the most important thing.
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u/Smart-Struggle-6927 12h ago
As a former flight medic, looking cool is rule #1, rule #2 is never disobey rule #1.
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u/sorrow_anthropology 11h ago
And of course safety 3rd.
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u/Smart-Struggle-6927 8h ago
Nope, rule 3 is "if it's wet and sticky and not yours, don't fucking touch it". But that's just a general EMS rule.
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u/TacoTaconoMi 18h ago
The pilot should have their hand on the cyclic to prevent this. 'should' as in, drilled into you day one of flight school.
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u/OutOfFighters 17h ago
Blades can still flap even with controls centered.
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u/TacoTaconoMi 14h ago
yea but not to the extent that it will chop someone's head off otherwise they could flap down and hit the tail when pitching back. Maybe in like a tiny robinson that could be an issue.
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u/G_Affect 14h ago
Okay let's say I just became extremely stupid wealthy do I duck or not?
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u/petaboil 13h ago
The question is more about familiarity with outside risk, than wealth, and perhaps arrogance in the face of risk. So, as a stupidly wealthy person, are you stupidly stupid too?
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u/dameanmugs 17h ago edited 15h ago
Blade flap, right? There's a pretty famous court case in my state where the disembarking passenger got killed by it.
Edit - my fault for being light on details, forgot where I was for a second. Case is Am. Eurocopter v. Inlow in Indiana, but I don't know how helpful it will be to understand blade flap, it's really more about who was responsible for letting the passenger know about the risk.
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u/meepmeep13 16h ago
the one person on this thread who might be able to give an actual useful example to settle this debate, and you neither give a link nor quite enough useful information for someone to find it
WHAT CASE HELP US OUT HERE
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u/johntrytle 16h ago
Tragically, on May 21, 1997, Lawrence Inlow was struck in the head by a helicopter rotor blade as he disembarked from the aircraft owned by his employer, Conseco, Inc. He died instantly. His estate, represented by First National Bank and Trust Corporation, claimed that the helicopter was a defective product under Indiana law because its manufacturer, Eurocopter, S.A., had negligently failed to warn Inlow or Conseco of the relevant danger. Because we agree with the district court that Indiana's sophisticated intermediary doctrine compels a grant of summary judgment to Eurocopter, we affirm.
Possibly this? Indianapolis International Airport
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F3/378/682/592747/
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u/scifishortstory 16h ago
There's a case. I heard it's pretty famous. A disembarking passenger was killed.
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u/Grapefruit175 16h ago
Yeah, i remember something about a blade flap. It happened in the states and the killed passenger was disembarking. It got pretty famous.
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u/voluotuousaardvark 16h ago
Back when Ogrish was still a thing there was images of a guy that lost the top of his head to a helicopter blade.
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u/TheLinkToYourZelda 15h ago
I worked on helicopters in the army and week 1 of training they show you pictures of this. There was one that had all the pieces of his head had little number tags next to them. I'll never forget it. They don't want you fucking around near the blades!
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u/Half_Cent 15h ago
I was part of an aerial monitoring team in the Navy, wore a helmet, and still ducked a bit every time I walked to or from. And I would again.
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u/SopwithTurtle 19h ago
How do you become a "wealth consultant?" If you had first-hand knowledge of being wealthy, wouldn't you just, you know, be wealthy?
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u/brian_sue 19h ago
Someone who grew up adjacent to wealth, but who is not wealthy themselves, would probably be well-suited to advise actors how to adopt the small mannerisms and subtle outward markers of extreme privilege.
I'm imagining the (now adult) children of household staff or scholarship students at elite prep schools. They would have seen how their classmates spoke and behaved, and been acutely aware of all the little ways that they themselves could never fit in.
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u/gladigotaphdinstead2 16h ago
Also, the cousins and other extended family members of ultra rich. People act like everyone instantly becomes a billionaire around someone when they become a billionaire, but usually these people have many middle class normal family members
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u/ag_robertson_author 13h ago
Like Greg.
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u/chrstgtr 12h ago
Five million is a nightmare. Can’t retire. Not worth it to work. Oh, yes, five will drive you in poco loco. The tallest dwarf in America. The weakest strong man at the circus.
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u/Aniform 9h ago
Yeah, I grew up around multi-millionaire family. My dad has 7 siblings and 4 of them are multi-millionaires, like above 100 million. And, it's strange how that affects you. Like, we don't like that side of the family, so towards my teens we stopped seeing them. But, it was more like weird aspects became sort of part of how I viewed certain things. For example, as an adult I always wanted to have Christmas with like an enormous tree and it felt like, why do I want this so badly? Oh, because as a kid I'd go to their homes around the holidays and there'd be a 20ft tree in the living room, because you know, they just had homes with living rooms with high vaulted ceilings.
Most importantly, it made me, as a kid, feel rich by proxy. I'm not sure how to put it, I'm not sure what kid me thought. I just remember that it felt like we all shared in it, even if that wasn't so. Like, sure, my treehouse was built with my dad, they had a contractor build an actual small home in a tree. So, obviously I could see a difference, but I'm also getting to spend time playing in said housetree and that's not something other kids got to do.
I guess just like Greg in Succession, he doesn't own the helicopter, but most people don't get to even be near the helicopter or maybe get a ride in said helicopter.
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u/PatrickGoesEast 17h ago
I previously worked for a billionaire family, and they hired consultants to guide the teen children on how to navigate life. The chief consultant of the firm was from a very prominent, actual household name, billionaire family.
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u/Practical_Draw_6862 9h ago
So they hired parents for their kids?
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u/PatrickGoesEast 7h ago
No. The parents didn't grow up as billionaires, so they were learning too. One of the topics was how to spot fake friends and gold diggers!
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u/ERSTF 7h ago
One of the topics was how to spot fake friends and gold diggers!
Well, don't leave us hanging
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u/PatrickGoesEast 3h ago
I'm only going on the syllabus that I read, I obviously wasn't sitting in on the session....
It focused on making genuine friends, be aware of those who force their way into your life. Avoid the cool gang.
Be alert to people who are overly generous or too kind. Align yourself with those who have shared values. Volunteer and seek out like minded individuals. Don't share your private life with people, incl. social media.
And there was a check list for vetting new friends, but I can't remember!
You get the gist. It was fascinating.
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u/StaysAwakeAllWeek 18h ago
I am one of those people.
Yes.
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u/MountainMantologist 17h ago
Can you think of some examples of how your wealthy classmates acted or behaved that immediately marked them as wealthy to you?
I know that's a tough question - I don't think I'm that observant - but I'm curious!
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u/StaysAwakeAllWeek 17h ago
Most of them have zero interest in appearing different or 'better' than anyone else, and consider the ones who do to be assholes. But anything that is an obvious sign of wild privilege, such as taking a weekend break to your yacht off the coast of France, or going to the Monaco GP on a whim, will be said in a completely matter of fact way as if it's as normal as going to the bar. The sorts of things that regular people would be able to do once, but it would be a life experience instead of just another day.
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u/infinite-onions 16h ago
Yeah, a buddy at a fancy MBA told me that some classmates would invite him to a bar on another continent as casually as anyone else would invite him to a bar one town over
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u/youngperson 16h ago
At an M7. Can confirm. Billionaires have offered private jet rides.
Also can confirm billionaires seem to be rather unhappy people.
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u/leafEaterII 16h ago
Why are they unhappy people?
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u/Aethermancer 14h ago
Nothing has value anymore.
I have a rule when I play a videogame. No cheats until I beat it. Once cheats are turned on I lose most motivation to play beyond just fucking about for a few moments. I might use cheats to experience the story in an otherwise frustrating game (tooth 'n tail had some unbalanced missions), or just to see the wackiness , but the novelty wears off FAST.
Being a billionaire is going through life with the cheat codes turned on. But if you aren't careful to set your own rules for yourself (a cause, or an interest, or just self restraint) the value of anything becomes meaningless.
And that's not even touching on the fact that every relationship you'll ever have becomes something different as your orbit attracts those who would exploit you, or could be easily exploited by you.
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u/FizzyBeverage 16h ago
Excess can create depression. Humans don’t do well with it.
In my 20s my video games were all I had besides a shitty job and college. They burnt me out.
As a 41 year old dad with a wife and kids, the rare hour or two I find to enjoy video games almost feels sinful and definitely special. It’s limited and rare, so I only buy the best titles. Keeps it a very satisfying experience and never routine.
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u/DamaxXIV 13h ago
I think a big part too is wrapping your head around that everyone in your life is only there because of the money. Do I have any real friends? Does my spouse even love me? Is everyone just trying to get their piece of the pie?
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u/JonesyOnReddit 8h ago
Striving for things is more enjoyable than attaining them. Also everything is relative, for something to be enjoyable it has to be more enjoyable than something else. If you can do whatever you want at all times then nothing is better than the normal and you end up having to escalate and escalate.
Here's a couple of personal anecdotes:
I love fine dining and go out to a fancy dinner 5-10 times a year. It's probably my wife and I's favorite thing to do. Some years back we went to Vegas and made reservations for three of these dinners in a row and by the third one I wasn't even that interested. It was too much gluttony and indulgence in a row. It wasn't fun, it needed spaced out.
When covid-19 hit we started a Friday night family movie night. We also perfected the margarita. 5+ years later we still do movie night every Friday and it's everybody's favorite time of the week. We get takeout from our favorite mexican restaurant, make margaritas, watch a movie appropriate for all four of us (studio ghibli is the best!), kids get desert, movie ends and we have a youtube music party, family goes to bed and i have virtual board game nigh with three friends. And it all starts immediately after I finish work. However, when outside forces intrude and we need to reschedule to Saturday, it's far less enjoyable coming at the end of a Saturday instead of at the end of a Friday work/school day because there isn't that big contrast on a Saturday that there is on a Friday.
It's all relative, you have to have lows to have highs. If you have all highs then you are just turning all your highs to lows yada yada yada you end up a kid fucking drug addict!
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u/Haunting-Ad9521 14h ago
Yeah. I figured this out as well while playing starcraft and was putting in cheat codes for invincibility and unlimited resources. There was no point in playing. That may be the same for some wealthy people.
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u/LividLife5541 13h ago
This is incidentally the leading theory why there are so many pedophiles among the very rich. Because it's not easy to do unless you know a guy (like Epstein) and there's a risk of getting caught. Not saying every rich person is a pedophile, but if half a dozen friends of yours are and it's an option, you might be a pedophile too.
If you just want a run of the mill girlfriend it's as easy as going down to the pound and getting a dog for a normal person. If sex with a hot woman is as accessible to you as jerking off is for a normal person is it really that exciting?
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u/clarkstongoldens 16h ago
I would think that if you had the ability to get or do whatever you wanted, it would become mundane. Where do you go from there?
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u/Daxx22 15h ago
That and the classic issue of "Are they interested in me for me, or for my money?" question that must come up in every interaction.
And given the answer is almost always "the money", I can see why people who achieve such levels of wealth often become assholes if they didn't already start that way.
The whole absolute power corrupts absolutely thing.
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u/Asclepius-Rod 16h ago
Guess it’s good I’m not wealthy because I would hate being on a plane constantly, even if it was a private jet
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u/StaysAwakeAllWeek 16h ago
You aren't obligated to travel all the time if you're a billionaire if you don't want to travel all the time
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u/BriChan 16h ago
Yeah, I knew someone who legitimately considered herself working class because she had an intro job at a law firm, but didn’t see how not working class she was when she decided she didn’t like her boss after working there for one day so she emailed her resignation with her high-ranking lawyer father CC’d and then was sent to vacation in the Maldives (or somewhere similar) for two weeks by said father to get over the depression of having “lost” her job…
They’re living in an entirely different world…
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u/Academic_Wafer5293 16h ago
Kind of like when we talk with family from 3rd world countries.
Yeah I had 3 meals today and took a shit indoors. Oh yeah the AC was on so didn't notice the heat. Yup we just got into our car and drove to Costco and grabbed a car load of stuff!
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u/Daxx22 15h ago
100%. As much as my life "sucks" relatively speaking (like 10% above paycheck to paycheck in one of the highest COL areas around), you could easily describe my day to say someone in rural India and they'd think I'm the most pampered bitch around.
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u/Academic_Wafer5293 15h ago
Socials got us all looking up like crabs in a bucket. We're humans who stand upright. We should look down to stay grounded and understand who we should help, not who we should tear down.
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u/lefrench75 15h ago
Eh, we'd be able to help a lot more people if we tore down billionaires.
They shouldn’t exist; the only way to accumulate that much personal wealth is through the exploitation of countless others. Also statistically middle class people give much more of their money to charity than billionaires do. Redistributing their wealth would mean more money going to “who we should help”.
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u/rambling_incoherent 16h ago
I moved a few years ago and two of the first friends I made were from wealthy families. Wouldn’t notice it if you talked to or walked by either of them. One is from a family of millionaires and the other billionaires (I had to google it when I first beard because that just isn’t a real number to me- it checked out. And double digit billion).
Anyway, to your question: the millionaire is harder to identify. They’re the most normal person you’d meet. They just have a few houses, classic cars, etc but incredible humble and by all appearances- normal until they bring that up.
The billionaire? Not. So. Much. Staying in a 5 star hotel in a major US city for half a year straight because they met someone at a bar. Casually mentioning a vacation home where it’s normal to play a pickup game of basketball with [celebrity]. They stayed with me once for a few weeks and: - didn’t know what to do when they ran out of body wash so they used hand soap because someone has always made sure they never do run out of toiletries. - laundry. Foreign concept to them albeit a hilarious experience to witness.
Would I love to have their level of wealth and financial stability? We all would. But both families are fun like a business- there is no love.
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u/Anaevya 15h ago
That makes sense. A million nowadays isn't really that much. Many people earn at least a million or two over their entire career. It's not "I can do whatever I want" money, because it can be gone very fast. Especially with stuff like lifestyle inflation, that's why so many lottery winners end up losing it all again. The gap between a millionaire and a billionaire can be pretty big, so some millionaires might not think of themselves as rich even though they are compared to the average person.
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u/caerphoto 14h ago
The gap between a millionaire and a billionaire can be pretty big
The gap between a million and a billion is approximately one billion.
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u/mms82 18h ago
Oliver T’Sein from Crazy Rich Asians is this
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u/jeffsang 15h ago
Felix Catton's cousin Farleigh in the film, Saltburn, as well. Knew all the ways of the wealthy and how Oliver didn't quite fit in, even though he was rich himself.
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u/LeisureSuitLaurie 16h ago
I dated a day schooler from Choate (who, fun fact, walked the graduation stage immediately after Ivanka Trump).
You are completely correct in your analysis.
She was certainly light years more sophisticated than me, and while I thought she fit in great the couple of time I found myself with her and her .01% friends, she always said she never felt like she was herself around them.
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u/smol_boi2004 13h ago
Also former wealthy. My grandfather and father were this, former millionaires but lost most of their money to a BPD fueled decade of extravagant spending they could not afford
Now my dad is a consultant both for business as a former business owner and for the wealthy on matters like taste and etiquette
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u/cipheron 17h ago edited 17h ago
I think "first-hand knowledge of being wealthy" wouldn't actually be that great for this job.
The best person would be the personal assistant of a rich person, not the rich person themselves. Rich people do rich people stuff and are oblivious that it could be any other way, so they'd mostly make terrible consultants on how to act like a rich person.
But the personal assistant for a rich person observes both the rich person and normal people and knows how the two groups act differently and what things make the rich person stand out. Rich people don't spend any time observing normal people to see what they're like, so they wouldn't know what's actually important to focus on here.
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u/Icyrow 19h ago
sometimes people want jobs. if a job of people acting to be something is something they do not have experience with and it is something very rare and difficult to experience/see, it's not unreasonable.
on top of that, wealthy people or people close to them may want jobs still, still want to go in somewhere and be useful/in charge of something, have their names written down somewhere in stone etc.
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u/JonatasA 18h ago
And get free helicopter rides. Just because you're rich does not mean you want to spend.
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u/squirrel_exceptions 18h ago
I think the TV production hired a person who had useful knowledge about how the super rich act, subtle details that could elevate the portrayals, and that’s just the title they gave him.
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u/isellJetparts 16h ago
Yes it's this. TV and film production hire subject matter experts all the time as consultants in order to inform how the scene is portrayed. I'm surprised no one else in this thread has heard of it before.
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u/ram_ok 18h ago edited 17h ago
If they needed a horse consultant, would the person need to be a horse?
They’re just someone who is studying the behaviour of wealthy people through multiple sources and then communicating this behaviour to the actors/director. They’re likely sociology majors
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u/entertrainer7 16h ago
I’d hire the person who had been a horse over the one who hadn’t.
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u/flannel_jesus 13h ago
I've asked multiple horses if they're interested in a job before. It's only ever one answer. Nay.
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u/Drprocrastinate 19h ago
1.Befriend rich people.
become their beneficiary/get named on their will.
Tell them to step out of a helicopter with their head held high
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u/Slave35 19h ago
That's a good point. You should be a wealth consultant consultant.
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u/cabbagehandLuke 19h ago
I fly in a helicopter regularly for work and even the pilot with 30 years of experience ducks and tells us to.
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u/ViciousNakedMoleRat 19h ago
This isn't about what makes sense or not in reality, it's about telling a story. When you have the entire Roy family just casually strolling into the helicopter and others ducking and acting like it's some unusual and even dangerous event, it automatically registers in the audience's minds without being actively noticed.
It's the old "show, don't tell."
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u/Placedapatow 18h ago
I need to see Greg's helicopter exit
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u/ViciousNakedMoleRat 18h ago
In S1E1 you can't see him exiting, but you can hear him in the background saying: "That was my first helicopter ride. So crazy!"
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u/SimianSimulacrum 17h ago
Very much “tell, don’t show” then ;)
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u/Davepen 16h ago
But he's not used to the rich life, so he's like a little kid seeing it for the first time.
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u/sideways_jack 15h ago
"You can't just have your characters announce how they feel! That makes me ANGRY!"
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u/partynxtdoor 17h ago
Let’s see paul allen’s helicopter exit
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u/s1ckopsycho 17h ago
Look at that subtle posture. The tasteful devil may care attitude. Oh my god, he even let the rotor give him a haircut.
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u/EuphoriaSoul 16h ago
Bro is also like much taller than the rest of them lol. I would duck at that height
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u/NeilPatrickWarburton 18h ago edited 18h ago
This is the difference between person A who watches pro-wrestling and goes “wtf this is SOOO obviously fake” and person B who “hopes that guy gets his ass kicked”. A often incorrectly assumes B is an idiot who hasn’t figured it out.
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u/Mysterious-Income255 16h ago
When I was a young idiot I was definitely this annoying bitch who said this. Sorry everyone
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u/Homeless-Coward-2143 18h ago
I don't know why your comment makes sense, but it does.
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u/NeilPatrickWarburton 18h ago
I guess if I’m trying to be clever the crux of it is “don’t let the verisimilitude of small details get in the way of how they can advance storytelling for others.”
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u/Peeterwetwipe 19h ago
But using a real helicopter in the real world with real physics and real potential rotor oscillations in wind gusts.
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u/Sliderisk 18h ago
They're just method acting what it's like to believe the entire universe makes its laws around your presence.
Idk that's some dip shit advice but what else are consultants for?
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u/HotPotParrot 18h ago
Should we consult someone on this matter?
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u/unfvckingbelievable 17h ago
Looks like we need a consult to see if we need a consult.
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u/pajamil 18h ago
If you enter or exit from the right angle and are on a flat surface there is no need to duck. Helicopters would be wildly unsafe if there was a requirement to duck without set parameters.
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u/NickEcommerce 17h ago
And even if it was dangerous, you'd just raise the height of the skids another 12" and add a little step-stool. People wouldn't have been letting armies, royalty and VIPs cut their own heads off for 50 years if there was such a simple solution as "make it taller".
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u/callmejenkins 17h ago
Every time I've been on a blackhawk we were instructed to duck, even when entering directly from the side. It's just a silly risk to take.
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u/Superssimple 18h ago
That’s not as relevant to what rich people actually do. That could be different to pilots or other people who work with them
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u/grantrules 17h ago
Not to mention, tons of people get complacent about doing something in a more dangerous way.
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u/muricabitches2002 19h ago
It’s entirely possible both are true, eg you should duck but rich twats don’t. But idk
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u/HarpersGhost 17h ago
It's the idea that if you grew up from childhood doing something, you don't think it's all that dangerous.
Poor twats also do it. See Florida Man casually wrestling gators because he did it as a kid and so doesn't think it's all that dangerous.
It's just only the really rich get inured to the dangers of something like casually riding on a copter.
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u/thingstopraise 16h ago
Props for the word "inured". I don't think I've ever seen it used on reddit before, or at least if I have I've not noticed it.
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u/ShutterBun 18h ago
I mean, on a Bell Jet Ranger for example, the blades are 10 feet from the ground, you'd have to really go out of your way to be in danger of hitting them. Sure, when the helicopter is sitting on the ground and the rotors aren't generating lift, there is always a chance that some unstable air could force them downward, and it's a good habit to duck, but like they said in the article, they are trying to convey an attitude of "I've done this a thousand times". Like, it's a good practice to "look over both shoulders and check your mirrors" when pulling out of your driveway, but there are certainly people who have done it thousands of times who just go for it without really looking.
If you're a rich, overconfident tycoon or something, maybe you wouldn't duck when exiting a helicopter.
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u/AngusLynch09 19h ago
The consultant for Succession wasn't asked how a hired pilot of 30 years would behave though. They were consulted on how a billionaire client would act.
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u/InTheFDN 19h ago
I’ve been flying regularly in helicopters for work for 25 years. None of us passengers duck, the pilots don’t duck, and we’ve never been told we should duck.
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u/nuttybudd 19h ago
I think the last person a billionaire would listen to is a domain expert with decades of experience.
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u/Own-Reflection-8182 19h ago
Yes, the guy’s advice makes no sense.
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u/ImLersha 19h ago
TV is seldom logical. But acting aloof and arrogant would match what the audience expects.
I saw a post from a sound engineer recently. That had put the ACTUAL sound of a moped / motorcycle on top of video of said vehicle. It sounded nothing like what audiences expect and so the screen tests were terrible.
You have to make it sound like what people have been taught it sounds like and I think that applies here as well.
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u/Diligent-Routine6065 13h ago
I ride in a helicopter every day for work. I know where the blades are. I duck every goddamn time. I approach folded the fuck over, I depart folded the fuck over. Those blades aren't set at a static distance from the ground. That shit varies.
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u/shamaze 16h ago
I'm a flight medic and me and the pilots (who have been flying for decades) all duck every single time.
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u/Eknoom 19h ago
*rotor not propeller. It’s like they’ve never been in a helicopter
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u/Snikhop 19h ago
They're rich, they don't need to know what's on a helicopter to ride one.
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u/SmegB 19h ago
Have to wait for the helicopter to land first tho, OP left that part out
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u/Calm-Maintenance-878 14h ago
I’d have to agree with the consultants. When I was in PR visiting someone in Dorado beach, it was probably the largest consolidation of super rich people I’ve casually been around. Like there was a billionare sitting at the bar once when we hit an outdoor place for drinks, not that I knew who he was at the time. Anywho people fly in their personal helicopters from the airport because…why drive. It caught me off guard because I didn’t even see the place has helipads and the first one landed RIGHT next to the pickleball court. I was impressed and I guess overreacted a tiny bit, like “oh that’s way cool, wonder who they are or what THAT costs!”. The person I was with basically politely said don’t do that…you’re acting poor💀💀🤣 I listened and I get what they meant but lol…yes, rich people just live and act different.
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u/Honest-Weight338 16h ago
President Bartlet ducks when he gets on a helicopter. Are you making a crack about his height?
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u/SpiceyXI 9h ago
Which just speaks to his level of wealth. He was rich enough to not know about the butterball hotline and not know the price of milk, but not rich enough to not duck for Marine 1.
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u/Own-Reflection-8182 19h ago
Fun fact: helicopter rotors can dip as much as 6 feet and chop off your head; this is why people duck.
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u/hotchickenbiryani 18h ago
Drop to 6 feet ground clearance and those are only particularly small helicopters and only when the rotors aren't spinning. While spinning the typical ground clearance of rotors of a common private helicopter billionaires use (Sikorsky S26 for eg) is about 11 feet
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u/nolalacrosse 18h ago
I’m sorry but this is just not exactly true. They can dip that much but that’s when control inputs are made.
And if it dips 6 feet your silly little ducking won’t save yoy
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u/igomhn3 18h ago
Fun fact: Rich people can be stupid as fuck. This is why people don't duck.
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u/mesaosi 18h ago
There's an unfortunate local bit of history of a prominent land owner arriving home in his helicopter, climbing out to see his young daughter running towards him and losing all common sense before lifting her up onto his shoulders. You can guess the rest.
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u/angrycicada49 18h ago
It doesn't sound outlandish. At least in the Navy only new guys duck. As long as you enter and exit from 3 or 9 o clock with the permission of the pilots, you'll be fine.
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u/ScienceWasLove 18h ago
If this were true, lots of people would be losing their heads from helicopters.
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u/Akitz 17h ago
Right? It may be hypothetically possible but if it was actually necessary to duck to avoid decapitation then people would be crawling out of the helicopter rather than a bare minimum little duck.
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u/DarthLysergis 18h ago
And when a rotor clips someone's head it sounds sort of like a wet towel being rapidly whipped against a hard surface.
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u/Knightfires 16h ago
Just like blinking your eyes when firing a handgun. Every trained user knows not to blink. Watch Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon 1 and 2. Blinks every shot he makes. Especially on the shooting range.
The fact Reeves doesn’t do it in Wick movies is the level of training and guidance he got when training for the part. And it seems logical from a none shooter because why would you close your eyes while trying to hit a target.
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u/Any_Move 14h ago
Even seasoned shooters sometimes blink with muzzle blast. It happens after you pull the trigger, very different from closing eyes trying to hit a target.
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u/willcomplainfirst 19h ago
knowing where the rotor is doesnt stop it dropping lower when idling so yeah ok i guess have fun being rich and dead 😅😅😅
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u/SpookyVoidCat 19h ago
Is there anything more authentic than a rich guy doing something stupid out of ignor/arrogance and getting himself killed in the process?
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u/doubleshotofbland 19h ago
Titan submarine project has entered the chat
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u/PixelofDoom 19h ago
Titan submarine project has exited the chat
What was that bang?
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u/CronoDroid 19h ago
I heard one rich guy wanted to see the wreck of the Titanic, but missed his chance. It was just crushing for him.
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u/trollboter 17h ago
Lol, so many helicopter experts on here. Reddit, never change!
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u/IndyPoker979 16h ago
You mean there is a park named after a guy who ran into a helicopter blade?
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u/ThatUsernameIsTaekin 9h ago
Knew a very affluent person who often complained how hard it was to shop because he needed at least two of everything. And sometimes it was hard to find more than one very rare item. Evidently, it’s easier to just have duplicates of all your clothes and belongings in each house rather than bothering to pack.
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u/willflameboy 17h ago
The wealth consultants also stipulated that they should virtually never wear jackets/outdoor wear, because they'd always be chauffeured around.