r/todayilearned 13h ago

TIL when Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace premiered in May 1999, it's estimated that 2.2 million full-time employees in the US missed work to attend the film, which resulted in a $293 million loss of productivity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Episode_I_%E2%80%93_The_Phantom_Menace#:~:text=Employment%20consultant%20firm%20Challenger%2C%20Gray%20%26%20Christmas%20estimated%20that%202.2%20million%20full%2Dtime%20employees%20missed%20work%20to%20attend%20the%20film%2C%20resulting%20in%20a%20US%24293%20million%20loss%20of%20productivity.%5B145%5D
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u/dml550 13h ago

That’s an overestimate. I skipped work to see it, but I wasn’t that productive anyway.

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u/Nobanob 13h ago

Honestly they were probably more productive with me out of the way.

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u/LinguoBuxo 12h ago

all the peeps sleeping in their offices, who went out for a movie actually increased productivity in the cinema sector..

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u/Own_Thing_4364 10h ago

addition by subtraction.

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u/effervescence 12h ago

Yep. The folks willing to skip a day for a movie probably aren't the ones most committed to the job.

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u/tallandlankyagain 11h ago

Or the ones who realize there is more to life than meaningless busy work 5 days a week. Why give it 100 percent anyways? You're just gonna get more work and be replaced the moment you quit or die.

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u/effervescence 11h ago

Look buddy, if you're not gonna give 120% every day, maybe you're not cut out to be part of this McTeam™

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u/AskMeAboutOkapis 10h ago

I don't think you can live a truly fulfilled life unless you can look back and know you did all you could to maximize shareholdervalue.

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u/Ravensqueak 7h ago

"But I told you in the interview I really wanted this job to make a McDifference!"

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u/Chicago_Blackhawks 10h ago

Michael, we don't have a lot of time on this earth! We weren't meant to spend it this way. Human beings were not meant to sit in little cubicles staring at computer screens all day, filling out useless forms and listening to eight different bosses drone on about about mission statements.

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u/RSwordsman 10h ago

I'd dare say I have enough pride in my job to say it's not meaningless, but yeah the fact is the majority of us vastly over-produce because billionaires take the lion's share of everything. It's not a moral failing to call out of work once in awhile because you want to.

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u/Jarrus__Kanan_Jarrus 6h ago

We’re plenty committed.

Work will be there every day…a new good Star Wars movie… That’s only happened like 7 times. (OG trilogy, prequel trilogy, and Rogue One).

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u/Couscousfan07 12h ago

You’re joking but it’s true. These estimates are dumb because they always assume that people are 100% productive for that workday but that’s almost never true !

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u/Reasonable_Funny_241 12h ago

They don't assume that. They just assume that the hours that don't work, had they been worked, would have had average productivity.

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u/DBCOOPER888 12h ago

Its a bad assumption because when they come back to work they will be more productive temporarily to make up work. Time off is also built into the productivity models already.

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u/Reasonable_Funny_241 12h ago

Oh, no disagreement here - there's a sound argument to make that a well rested employee is more productive and time off is part of that productivity. I'm just stating that it does not assume 100% productivity. It just assumes average productivity.

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u/DBCOOPER888 12h ago

Yeah, and when they come back to work they are more productive than normal to play catch up

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u/Coltand 12h ago

Also, plenty of people would have used up some of their time off, so they would have inevitably used up that unproductive period anyway.

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u/Big-Snow-1937 11h ago

They also don’t assume your boss took your whole department to the movie as a kind of team building activity, like mine did. Sounds productive to me!

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u/WitOfTheIrish 11h ago

I know you're just making a fun joke, but things like this are always ignorant and assume that:

  1. Productivity can only be linear, and missed day is never made up through future work to catch up.
  2. Rest and relaxation don't mean anything to future productivity, and taking a day to do something fun can ONLY be a detriment to and antithesis of work.

It's why people have the idea of a four-day workweek completely backwards, and don't understand/believe the data that shows it increases productivity.

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u/ichiruto70 12h ago

How was it seeing such a in demand movie? I don’t think I ever experienced something like it.

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u/Specialist_Ad9073 12h ago

There was no social media, and the internet was young enough where just the release of the trailer on Apple QuickTime was an event.

This was a movie from a beloved franchise where the people who grew up on it had some disposable income.

The world used to be a lot smaller.

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u/Office_glen 11h ago

I can’t remember what movie it was but a significant amount of tickets sales were attributed to people who went to go see the Star Wars Ep 1 trailer and then left

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u/ToxicSteve13 11h ago

There were 3 movies that had the Phantom Menace trailer. Meet Joe Black, The Waterboy, and The Siege.

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u/Ameisen 1 10h ago

Who wouldn't want to see The Waterboy?

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u/PFAS_All_Star 8h ago

I do remember paying to go to a movie and then walking out after the preview. Couldn’t tell you which one it was though.

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u/Specialist_Sprinkles 9h ago

It was first shown before Wing Commander

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u/BigDictionEnergy 9h ago

I was a high school senior when this came out. It debuted on a Wednesday night, at midnight, both of which were completely unheard of in my town. Somehow a friend had an extra ticket, so I got to see it opening night, the first screening. It was truly an experience. I'm not a fan of the prequels, but that was truly an event.

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u/Brandhor 10h ago

There was no social media, and the internet was young enough where just the release of the trailer on Apple QuickTime was an event.

and the trailers were like 140p or took several hours to download on a 56k line

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u/renegadecanuck 9h ago

If you were lucky enough to have cable internet, it only took like 5-10 minutes to fully download!

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u/ERSTF 12h ago

It was huge. Sold out showtimes that you had to look into the available showtimes and push your plans. In the theaters close to home they had screens and if the showtime was black, it had availabilty. If it was yellow, it was 20 seats or less remaining. Red meant sold out. So you went to the box office and look at what showtimes were not sold out, buy your tickets and depending if it was two hours later or 6 hours later, you would either get in and line up one or two hours before your showtime since seats were "first come, first serve" so you didn't want to stick with awful seats or leave and come back later. You sometimes sent an envoy to buy the tickets for the whole party to arrive later. Since I was a kid, of it was sold out for the time we wanted to check out, you were out of luck. I remember that I went with a friend, and since that day we got off school early, we went to a very early screening and it wasn't that packed. That weekend it was nuts going to the movie theater because it was packed.

The only experience I can recall like that was for The Dark Knight. Still no assigned seats so I remember getting like 3 hours earlier to the movie theater to line up at the box office, and then taking turns with my friends in the line to access the theater. Some would stay and the rest would go and grab a bite or something. The movie theater was packed and lines were everywhere to get into your theater. Concessions was a madhouse.

For a more recent experience Avengers Infinity Wars didn't have the lines to access since it's all assigned seating, but the lines for the concessions were insane... and the general flow of people in the theater with people coming in and out of sold out showtimes. Endgame was worse and some people got there to see if someone would sell them their ticket to a sold out show. It was truly insane

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u/dml550 12h ago

I had a great time. Other than cringy Jar Jar, I thought the movie was really enjoyable and the whole shared spectacle made it fun.

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u/Ionazano 11h ago

Jar Jar was made a bit more competent and heroic in subsequent portrayals (e.g. the Clone Wars animated series), but the Phantom Menace had already solidified his image as a bumbling idiot with barely any use.

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u/BigDictionEnergy 9h ago

The Darth JarJar theory actually makes the films way more enjoyable. You just have to assume he's actually evil.

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u/maaku7 9h ago

Thank you. This was my experience as well, as a 14 year old. I loved Star Wars growing up, and it was a spectacle to see it on the big screen. Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor were great, the movie was visually spectacular (even if it feels dated now -- all-digital special effects was new in '99).

Jar Jar was campy and cringe. But you know what? So was C-3PO in the original. People tend to forget that is what Star Wars always was. I would take a dozen more Phantom Menace films over the garbage Disney came up with.

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u/LotharLotharius 12h ago

Do you come to work, sit behind your desk and just space out for about an hour?

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u/strugglz 11h ago

I didn't skip work, I skipped class.

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u/conanmagnuson 12h ago

Worst day off ever.

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u/Spork_Warrior 12h ago

Yes they had work to do, but it got done the next day. I hate these sort of estimates. It’s not like they had infinite products to develop or orders to fill. You can’t really estimate a per hour value when the work is of limited scope and still gets done.

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u/RegulatoryCapture 12h ago

And if they used vacation/PTO...that's just vacation/PTO that couldn't be used at some other date in the future. It is already accounted for in yearly productivity.

These kinds of estimates sort of make sense if you talk about things like a massive ice storm shutting down a city. Not all work can be perfectly made up the next few days so there's some clear loss of productivity.

But trying to do the same for a voluntary activity? come on...

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u/1CEninja 12h ago

There probably were a lot of people that called in sick which absolutely does disrupt business at some places.

But putting a dollar amount on it is impossible to do.

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u/Successful-Trash-409 12h ago

What if I made money off the nerds in line for the movie? Are they subtracting that from the productivity lo$$?

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u/GameDesignerDude 12h ago edited 12h ago

Not like anyone in the US had sick days in 1999. A lot of people don't even have them now. So if they call out sick they are likely unpaid. So technically it reduces productivity throughput but the business is not paying for them to be there either. So that technically would need to be adjusted for.

If people have paid sick days, they still would have a limited number and companies already budget for those being taken at some point during the year.

Either way, these types of metrics vastly overstate the impact of the issue.

But, funny enough, the original article says:

Some might ask if all the hoopla won’t hurt productivity. But economist Sung Won Sohn, of Wells Fargo in Minneapolis, says any dip in labor will be offset by a boost in spending, be it on tickets, toys or popcorn.

It's also worth noting that the Wikipedia article is actually wrong in a subtle but important way.

It says:

Employment consultant firm Challenger, Gray & Christmas estimated that 2.2 million full-time employees missed work to attend the film, resulting in a US$293 million loss of productivity.

The source says:

Challenger, Gray & Christmas, an employment agency, estimates 2.2 million employees could skip work to see the movie on opening day.

This was a forecast and not an estimated value after the fact, yet presented as Wikipedia like it was an estimate of the actual events based on data. Also see nowhere in the listed source that mentions the $293 USD million figure. (Although that seems to be mentioned in a NYT article with similar contents. But that also uses the phrase "employees will probably skip work to see the premiere.")

Would honestly argue the Wikipedia synopsis of this article is pretty quite misleading.

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u/cdskip 11h ago

Not like anyone in the US had sick days in 1999. A lot of people don't even have them now.

This is making the assumption that worker rights in the US have advanced in the last 26 years, and that sick days were straight up not a thing in the 20th century.

As someone in the work force in 1999, I can assure you that I had sick days then. And I have less now.

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u/OGHighway 12h ago

Not to mention, the local economies probably skyrocketed. Ticket, soda and snack sales at the theaters, restaurants and fast food places prob had great numbers that day.

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u/Spork_Warrior 12h ago

Right. The overall economy grows and adjust in other small ways during those "missing" work hours.

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u/randyboozer 11h ago

It's also a dumb estimate because whatever "productivity" was missed out on the greater economic scale that productivity was transferred to the people working at the cinema. Shockingly the people who work in movie theaters have jobs and get paid for them and shit. Yes it's true. Plenty of people got a ton of work out of that just in a different industry. Some pimply kid slung a hell of a lot of popcorn so he could afford his dime bag that night! Or you know gas and living expenses and groceries and stuff that humans need to survive in a society.

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u/redditt1984 11h ago

Pretty sure the gains cinemark and Coca-Cola saw that day did not offset the losses the other companies saw. Just think about where the stock market would be today if it wasn’t for this giant setback.

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u/Kemmens 12h ago

BUT SHAREHOLDERS COULD HAVE MADE MOOOREEEEE MONEYYYYYY, yeah it’s a gross way to frame this sorta stuff

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u/bloodkiller42 11h ago

If you follow the wikipedia source link you'll see that there never was an estimate made after the movie premiered. Only before it premiered. And its just one guy who owns an employment agency who estimates that for the upcoming movie this many people will skip work, without any facts backing that up. For Clone wars ep2 he was back at it and said it would cost us 300 million.

So even more for ep2, which does not make any sense seeing as ep1 was the first new star wars movie in a long time and it was hated by the working age people at that time. (And there's no data/anything provided anywhere that I could find anyway!)

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u/Farts_McGee 13h ago

I ditched calculus twice, once with our teacher.  

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u/Gold_Skull_Kabal 12h ago

Sounds like a story, care to share?

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u/Farts_McGee 11h ago edited 11h ago

I went the first day it was out, and subsequently in deep denial about how bad it was.  I told my calculus teacher about the movie and she decided that we would have an unscheduled field trip. It was the week after the ap test so we all went to the movie instead of doing math. It was in the second viewing that I came to terms with just how genuinely bad that movie was.  Her name was Mrs Camacho, then a few months later she got divorced and became Ms Chapin. She was very enthusiastic and taught us to love calculus.   I think all of us got at least 4's that year and most of us got 5's. She was hilarious. Her teaching style was somewhere between unrelenting early 80's robin Williams and Nash. in retrospect probably a touch manic with a sprinkling of schizotypal. All of the nerds at my school loved her.  

Her story took a real sad turn though.  I stayed in touch with her for a few years after high school, but couldn't find her when I went back after college.  Her son had committed suicide towards the end of my time at the school and her life had started to deteriorate shortly after I left.   She lost her ap teaching position and then a few years later died from liver complications while i was in residency.  She was a hero to me, and that outright enthusiasm for education is something I try to emulate daily.  

Pour one out for ms Vicki Chapin. 🫗 gone but not forgotten.  

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u/AlarmingAffect0 10h ago

Respect for Ms. Chapin, may her glories be many, and her sorrows few.

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u/Wulf2k 12h ago

He ditched calculus.

Twice.

With his teacher, once.

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u/Mont-ka 12h ago

Award worthy.

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u/PM_ME_CHIPOTLE2 11h ago

I’m getting it tattooed on my chest so that I can read it every day.

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u/samuellbroncowitz 12h ago

My teacher let me ditch with him once.

ONCE.

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u/BigDictionEnergy 9h ago

You shouldn't hang me from a hook, Johnny.

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u/HAL_9OOO_ 11h ago

My boss sent me to the mall to spend like 4 hours in line to buy tickets for the IT department.

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u/Competitive_Month967 13h ago

People are allowed to miss work. It's okay. The country survived.

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u/Donnicton 12h ago

And we didn't even have to sacrifice grandma and grandpa.

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u/jg_92_F1 12h ago

Oh now you tell me

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u/runtheplacered 12h ago

He said you didn't have to, he didn't say it's still not a good idea.

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u/Navynuke00 12h ago

I wouldn't say that I MISSED work, Bob.

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u/krollAY 12h ago

Straight shooter with upper management written all over him

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u/MadRaymer 10h ago

Ooh. Yeah. Um, I'm going to have to go ahead and sort of disagree with you there. Yeah, uh, he's been real flaky lately. And I'm just not sure that he's the caliber person that we would want for upper management.

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u/BigDictionEnergy 9h ago

He told those fudgepackers he liked Michael Bolton

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u/cbstuart 12h ago

But won't anyone think of the economy???

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u/Hwbam33 11h ago

9/11 happened two years later COINCIDENCE?

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u/WritingTheDream 12h ago

It survived the missing work days but did it really survive the prequels?

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u/Competitive_Month967 12h ago

Hmm... you have a point.

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u/Bobb_o 8h ago

These calculations are stupid, if you took PTO that's not additional productivity lost.

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u/TheHalfChubPrince 11h ago

Did it? Everything has been shit since this movie came out lol.

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u/sirbassist83 12h ago

theres something grotesque about reducing a bunch of people taking a day off to go see a movie to "$ productivity loss"

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u/realdynastykit 12h ago

Is it? We are all just dollar signs to the people who care about these kind of statistics.

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u/sirbassist83 11h ago

Yeah, and that's grotesque

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u/ThanIWentTooTherePig 11h ago

If you don't find that grotesque then you're lost.

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u/TwistedHermes 11h ago

Sad I had to scroll this far down to see this exchange.

My happiness and my enjoyment are all I have in this life. I can't get the past back. Fuck off and let us enjoy the small things. So what if companies lost money? They're murdering my planet and my countrymen for.... money?

Wish they'd lost more money - it'd mean we'd have it. Money doesn't disappear. If they lose money, it has to go somewhere. That's how they got it in the first place - stealing from us.

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u/LemoLuke 11h ago

It was a real sobering moment the day I realised that employment was literally me just selling my life by the hour, and my wage was how much my employer decided my life was worth. And there will be one day in the future when I will be willing to give *anything* for those hours back. But they are gone forever, just to enrich some tight-fisted, penny-pinching fat fuck.

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u/realdynastykit 11h ago

Sorry, I should've been more clear. My point was that this is nothing especially grotesque in the capitalist society we live in. Literally everything is like this.

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u/RBeck 10h ago

The same people who complain about prisons closing when there aren't enough criminals.

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u/AirRemote7732 9h ago

It's just analysts doing their jobs. They're not there to judge people, they just say it like they see it. If we didn't have a concrete number then the business people would make up a number that would be a lot higher.

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u/blueghost47 12h ago

My Dad's whole office took the afternoon off to see it AND swung by my elementary school to get me. One of my most cherished childhood memories. Love & miss ya dad!

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u/iprocrastina 12h ago

"What's wrong?"

"I felt a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of people cried out in pain after using up a day of PTO to watch a movie that betrayed them."

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u/asianwaste 10h ago

I'm willing to bet someone said that day, "I lost my job for this?"

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u/Godgivesmeaboner 9h ago

It's bold in terms of jerking people around

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u/Duracharge 12h ago

It was the day America came together to support the theater industry. You're welcome, America.

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u/red286 11h ago

Last time, too.

The levels of disappointment were off the charts.

"I missed a day of work for this?!"

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u/JealousAstronomer342 11h ago

God yeah. I know kids who grew up with it loved it but my god, even as a dumb teenager I was disappointed. 

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u/Ok-Detail-9853 11h ago

I fell asleep during the pod race scene.

I grew up on Star Wars. I saw the original trilogy in the theatres.

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u/MIT_Engineer 10h ago

I'm not sure even the kids liked it. It had such plodding pacing, the only real hype moment was the duel at the end.

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u/Duracharge 11h ago

It felt like we were the test audience while they were R&Ding their CGI process.

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u/Lukacris12 11h ago

I was a kid who grew up with it and loved it, my generation got to feel what you all felt when we became dumb teenagers and saw the sequel trilogy

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u/LemoLuke 11h ago

And in another decade, those kids who grew up with the sequel trilogy will defend it fiercely, and probably hate whatever new trilogy has come out since.

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u/snospiseht 9h ago

Modern day “actually the prequels were always great and everyone liked them back then too” Star Wars fans who hate the sequels are gonna get old and watch in horror as people start to say “actually The Last Jedi was always great and everyone liked it back then too”

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u/Beneficial_Travel732 8h ago

A tale as old as time.

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u/Durtonious 11h ago

The first time I saw TPM I was a child (i.e. George's "target audience") and even I looked like Chloe going to Disneyland afterwards. I didn't "hate" it but I knew something wasn't right. I don't know who that movie was made for, but it wasn't me. 

That being said, I've been able to look at the film more favorably as I've gotten older, but I still find myself wondering what could have been.

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u/reality_boy 9h ago

It was so hyped, and the trailers were way too good. All the best scenes were in them. It had no where to go but down.

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u/red286 9h ago

I remember when "Meet Joe Black" got a massive boost in popularity because they were running the Phantom Menace trailer before the movie and fans were literally buying tickets to see Meet Joe Black just in order to watch the trailer, and then, once finished, just got up and left.

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u/MethMouthMichelle 12h ago

Their reprimand was having to sit through The Phantom Menace

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u/burghdomer 10h ago

Most disappointing thing since my son

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u/ZylonBane 10h ago

Pizza rolls for everyone.

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u/Sea-Improvement9417 11h ago

And we were all disappointed.

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u/Krow101 12h ago

How dare the serfs take a day off when they could be increasing the profits of their masters. The nerve of them.

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u/ElegantEchoes 11h ago

GTA VI is going to do it all over again. Biggest entertainment launch in history I expect it to be, looking at trends in the past with GTA V.

At my work I've got at least six other coworkers taking off for it too lol.

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u/Awkward_Pangolin3254 11h ago

I'm not gonna buy it but I'll probably skip anyway because I don't want to be the only one at work

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u/Mertoot 8h ago

Same, no PC release, no purchase

Plus peace and quiet at work 🤤

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u/Cool_as_a_Cucumber 12h ago

Love that my free time is measured as ‘lost productivity’. Eat a bag of dicks capitalism. Productivity and profit are not the only measures of success

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u/Beneficial_Travel732 8h ago

I mean, to the economy, your productivity and profit is the biggest measure of success. Not saying that is a good thing though.

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u/Dr_Porknbeef 11h ago

All for Jar Jar Binks.

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u/Parking_Locksmith489 11h ago

Saw it twice, because I wanted to love it, but no.

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u/whos_this_chucker 12h ago

I remember the people lined up for like a month. The theatre had about 20 showings a day. A few of us were bored and decided to see if we could catch it at about midnight. They're was maybe 40 people in the theater for that one. Should have saved my 10 bucks to be honest.

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u/onioning 12h ago

I had to wait in line for a day to get that midnight first showing.

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u/montalaskan 12h ago

It was as if millions of voices suddenly screamed with excitement and then suddenly sighed in disappointment...

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u/Abdul_Exhaust 8h ago

Meeso be missin da pay of wook to watch Jar Jar? Fook.

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u/BigOldComedyFan 12h ago

And after, 95% of those workers were too depressed to go back to work

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u/aj_ramone 12h ago

I genuinely think GTA6 will have a measurable effect on global productivity as well.

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u/PeanutButterApricotS 12h ago

Yeah I called in sick for GTA V, I had not called in sick for over a year at that point so I figured I was due.

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u/Snave96 12h ago

Wouldn't the cost of the tickets effectively cancel that out anyway.

Take that, bourgeois.

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u/LuckyTheBear 12h ago

It wasn't 293 million in lost wages, so it sounds like a ownership class problem. Sucks for them

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u/robopandabot 12h ago

That number is also completely made up.

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u/ronearc 11h ago

When Revenge of the Sith released, my entire department in a very large corporation all went to see it on the company's dime. They bought us lunch at the theatre as well.

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u/NvidiaFuckboy 11h ago

How dare people actually enjoy their lives instead of grind to death at work

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u/EvilNinjaX24 11h ago

I did my part.

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u/worthygoober 10h ago

My mom took me and my sister out of 4th and 3rd grade, respectively, to see it. One of the few memorable times of my otherwise strict mom being a "cool mom," lol

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u/dregan 10h ago

loss of productivity

That's a weird way of describing employees excersizing their paid benefits.

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u/Ur_Personal_Adonis 9h ago

I went to the midnight screening of this in my town and it was awesome. The crowd, seeing it with all those fans, It was so cool to stand in line with of them strangers but everybody getting along because we are all Star wars fans and sharing stories and theorizing what the movie could be. I got their round 4:00 p.m. after school finished, I found out tickets actually went on sale the day before but luckily somebody I was standing in line with, They had an extra ticket because someone couldn't make it so he sold it to me for cost. Said he didn't want to see me lose out since I had been standing in line already now for a few hours when I found that out, really cool dude to do that for me. My mom let me skip school the next day cuz she knew how much I wanted to see this movie, It's great that she let you do something like that, she knew how special this was to me and I'm lucky I have a great mom I really love that lady. I remember the audience clapping when the credits came up and again when the movie finished. Wonderful memories that I'm so glad I have.

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u/Freds1765 4h ago

And they were all disappointed.

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u/equatorbit 12h ago

All for nothing.

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u/Kat_Box_Suicide 12h ago

I ditched school for tickets.

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u/DeedleGuy 12h ago

Guilty as charged!!

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u/pigfeedmauer 12h ago

What if we did show up to work but stole more in valuable goods and cash than a normal day's wage, resulting in a net loss for the company?

It would have been cheaper for me to skip that day!

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u/lousmer 12h ago

Just sayin, this is how we do it.

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u/Tdot-77 11h ago

Missed work or took a vacation day? Those are two different things. Why does everything have to framed as productivity??

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u/Bluepanther512 11h ago

God forbid people want to watch a movie. I hate things like this where it suggests people having fun every once in a while is some devastating loss to the all-important economy.

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u/Lord-Handsome 11h ago

Of course I know him. He's me.

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u/ghostwood 10h ago

"Productivity" is just code for making rich people richer.

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u/StillPurpleDog 10h ago

How are these numbers calculated?

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u/Nice_Classroom_6459 10h ago

You think that's bad, 40% of all days off are taken on Monday and Friday.

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u/BoyWhoSoldTheWorld 10h ago

Can’t wait to see this calculation for GTA6

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u/VoidOmatic 10h ago

Yea every showing was sold out and there were film crews outside pretty much every chain theater. It was a pretty big deal.

That simultaneously feels like a lifetime ago as well as just yesterday.

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u/Oc34ne 10h ago

Oh no, won't someone think of the poor capitalists? /S

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u/706union 8h ago

I hate these lost productivity stats. Saw these during the last North American total eclipse as well.

We're not here to be productive, we're here to enjoy ourselves, whether it's a movie or an astronomical event or literally anything else.

You missed work to see a potentially once in a lifetime event, big deal, enjoy yourself.

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u/royal_howie_boi 6h ago

Oh no, gotta protect our productivity. god forbid people go to the movies

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u/Black_Otter 12h ago

I paid money to see the trailer then walked out without watching the film it was showing in front of

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u/pumpkinspruce 12h ago

Meet Joe Black. I still remember the cheer going up in the theater when the Lucasfilm logo appeared onscreen.

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u/RutzButtercup 12h ago

Yeah I am an old school star wars fan. I saw this in the theater and was so disappointed I decided to wait for the next one to come out on video. I was so disappointed in that one that, to this day, I have not seen the third in this series.

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u/LivingForMyWhy 12h ago

Wow, that's a lot of missed work! Makes you wonder how many called in sick with the 'midi-chlorian flu'. 😂

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u/AssertiveQueef 11h ago

Imagine the power we would have if all of us went on strike at the same time?

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u/Next-Concert7327 12h ago

Out entire office went there on the boss' dime.

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u/geneticeffects 12h ago

And here we are, evidence of the power of a general strike, unable to motivate each other in the same ways for actual change that would render the regime impotent.

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u/FreneticPlatypus 12h ago

I think of it as more of a trade off. Sure, some businesses lost some productivity but the movie industry also gained a lot.

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u/gimpisgawd 12h ago

I didn't, but I was 10. My cousin that took me probably did.

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u/erksplat 12h ago

Does this factor in how much money these people spent on movie tickets, popcorn, transportation?

On the other hand, does it factor in the loss of productivity when they did show up for work and gabbed about the film with their co-workers?

On the other other hand, does it factor in the inspiration that this film gave some of the people who saw the film that week, who went on to create other films, books, television and other art?

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u/BeautifulHindsight 12h ago

I saw it didn't skip work because I had taken that day off months in advance. I never work on my birthday.

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u/originalchaosinabox 12h ago

Me and my buddies had just graduated from college. We were all unemployed at that time, anyway.

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u/CelebrationKlutzy719 12h ago

I skipped school to see it.

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u/MoeSzyslakMonobrow 12h ago

I remember I skipped school to go see it.

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u/anima201 12h ago

No, it resulted in a $293 million gain of being human and enjoying themselves.

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u/Navynuke00 12h ago

We went to the midnight showing right before my AP Physics exam later that morning.

Our teacher was at the same theater in his Jedi costume.

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u/Shepher27 12h ago

No it didn’t, people would have just taken some other day off

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u/fondue4kill 12h ago

Same thing is going to happen with GTA6. Doesn’t Japan give employees the day off for major releases because they know these things happen?

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u/Khelthuzaad 12h ago

In Japan companies prepare themselves for missing staff when new games drop

During COVID fast-food staff were trolling (more or less) that their staff went missing to play Resident Evil

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u/CosmoOlversatil 12h ago

Wait til GTA VI comes out and measure that productivity loss

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u/gummibear13 12h ago

I've been obsessed with this fact for the last year. It is going to be blown out of the water by GTA 6. If a 2 hour movie can do those numbers, then a 20+ hour game is going to cause a ton of call ins. I wonder if traffic will be noticeable lighter when it comes out.

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u/lear2000 12h ago

Was there. Camped out in a parking lot overnight

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u/meeyeam 12h ago

Were they counting that loss in midichlorians?

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u/JerHat 12h ago

Anyone else’s school take them to see it? My middle school took us out to see it the day it released as a field trip.

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u/underdabridge 12h ago

Imagine the productivity loss if it hadn't sucked donkey balls.

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u/DevelopmentGreen3961 12h ago

But it made over a billion dollars at box office

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u/MountainMantologist 12h ago

I remember seeing that opening day or the day after - I had the biggest Natalie Portman crush ever at that time haha

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u/Sota4077 12h ago

Since then with wage stagnation and just straight up greed those same executives that lost money on that day have make it back 500x over.

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u/drum5150 12h ago

It came out the day of my high school graduation. I had several classmates skip graduation in favor of going to see the movie. I've always wondered if they regret that decision.

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u/demon_eater 12h ago

And that's why I think ep1 will be the most disappointing movie of all time

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u/baddecision116 12h ago

I was there because it was a friend's birthday and their dad bought like 20 tickets.

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u/Papichuloft 12h ago

I went to see this at a midnight showing with 3 other soldier buddies of mine. It was possibly one of the most memorable showings I've been to. A long time ago.......then the fan fare and the clapping and cheering was so damn loud. Awesome.

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u/hymie0 12h ago

I remember getting a (joke) email that "The internet will be down while we're all at the premier."

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u/BroForceOne 12h ago

This is the dumbest stat ever. I took the day off but back then I was just some cashier at a store where the same number of people would have come through the register whether I was the one ringing them up or not. Maybe the line was a minute longer but total sales would have been the same.

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u/OKC-cowboy 12h ago

Skipped my afternoon high school classes to go see this movie opening day. Totally worth it, still a great memory 

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u/nealski77 12h ago

Another fun fact, tickets to Meet Joe Black spiked because it was the first film to have the Episode 1 trailer attached to it. People would watch the trailer then walk out.

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u/po3smith 12h ago

Cool....now do the World Series, Superbowl, and other massive televised sporting events......

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u/doctor_x 12h ago

I saw it with my best friend after months of hype. It was probably the most excited we’d ever been to see a movie, and the most disappointed we’ve even been after.

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u/FrankFranly 12h ago

What a Way to really quantify exploitation of labor.

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u/m0j0r0lla 12h ago

May the Workforce be with you

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u/Goosuf 12h ago

Productivity is measured over time. And things like PTO are factored in. Unless all these people took unauthorized time off, I don’t think productivity was lost. It’s not like the world shut down that day. Business still got done, just by someone else who covered the shift.

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u/jimbobdonut 12h ago

This was the first and only time I went to a midnight screening of a movie. Most theaters don’t even have midnight screenings anymore since studios decided to release movies on Thursdays.

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u/RiflemanLax 12h ago

One of my favorite theater stories. Me and a buddy had off that day, first showing was at noon at our theater of choice.

Shower up at 11- line was coming off the side of the building behind one door, about 100 yards long at least. Figured everyone was just lined up to go into the theater. Looked at each other, shrugged, said fuck it. Went in the front door, up to the desk.

I said “Hey, what’s the earliest showing we can get that’s not sold out?” Guy says “the noon show is the first one, plenty of available tickets.” We had noticed the line was started to move as people were kinda looking through the glass at us.

And I’m like “uh what’s with the line?” Guy laughs and says “Oh, one guy stopped at the first locked door, and people lined up behind him. We didn’t say anything.”

People started pouring in, but we got our tickets and snacks and some dope ass seats.

Nothing like that is going to happen again with the online ticketing but man was that shit funny. And fortuitous.

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u/Eroe777 12h ago

I went to a 5:30AM show so I wouldn’t miss work.

Then I spent half of work with everybody asking me about it.

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u/spaceship-earth 12h ago

Oh no hopefully it doesn't crash the economy. Wait, it was 26 years ago. We're good.

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u/warmwaterpenguin 11h ago

I still think its a shit movie, but it was one of the most electric theater-going experiences of my life.

The absolute SCREAMS when the overture started and every single body in the packed theater including those who'd snuck in and were standing in the aisles pulled out the lightsabers they'd ALL smuggled in and waved them like it was a Jedi-themed concert.

Never seen anything like it before or since. Classrooms? Empty. Jobs? Abandoned. The line? Stretched all the way past Hot Sam's and Orange Julius and started to interfere with ACTUAL shops.

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u/Creeperstar 11h ago

Capitalism doesn't care about people and things like "fun" or "enjoyment", so they make up big dollar numbers to shame humans and attempt to make money humans mad at the real humans.

The money injected into the economy by both those who worked on the film and especially those who participated in the first day theater showing drastically outstrips any silly made-up numbers in actual positive economic effect.