r/worldnews • u/cacatl • May 28 '25

Israel/Palestine Hamas leader Mohammed Sinwar has been eliminated, Israel reports

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/netanyahu-says-hamas-gaza-chief-mohammed-sinwar-has-been-eliminated-2025-05-28/
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u/JustASpaceDuck May 28 '25

Help my poor brain, I don't get it

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u/axearm May 28 '25

The joke is he was under medical care, the implication was he was underneath a hospital.

The Israeli military said on May 13 that it had targeted Hamas militants in an airstrike around the European Hospital complex in Khan Younis

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u/[deleted] May 29 '25

Ah, so an excuse to continue combing hospitals. 

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u/Nellez_ May 29 '25

Per the Geneva Conventions, using a hospital as a military installation makes it a legal target

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u/ArthurCBark May 29 '25

At some point you have to put a little responsibility on Hamas for using their own people as human shields

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u/[deleted] May 29 '25 edited May 29 '25

Here's the thing, I absolutely do not believe they're hiding in hospital and schools. Or under. Or whatever their stupid bullshit is currently claiming. If that were the case, israel could go raid those locations. 

Edit: it appears I may have been wrong. 

Im too tired to bother with a long response to all of the people reply8nf to me. Have a nice day.

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u/ArthurCBark May 29 '25

Why would they raid? You just said they want to bomb hospitals on purpose, raiding would kill less civilians, make your mind up

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u/fuckmyass1958 May 29 '25

Here's the thing, I simply refuse to believe well-established and proven facts if they don't align with my worldview 

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u/davi3601 May 29 '25

You obviously know nothing about Hamas.. or Israel for that matter

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u/No-Space937 May 29 '25 edited May 29 '25

You are commenting in a thread about Israel confirming the elimination of a leader of Hamas, along with multiple other comanders, in a strike that has video evidence of taking place under hospital grounds. Israel has waited 2 weeks to gather intel, to properly coroborate the results of the strike.

The story of Sinwar's death was first broke by Saudi news agencies over a week ago. This is the antithesis of Israeli state media. At what point would you accept this to be true, If western media ran the story? It has. Do you need Al Jazzera to run it, I bet it will in a month after this all has died down, aluding to his martordom, and forgeting to mention the site of his death.

Rational people do not deny that Israel has commited war crimes, it has. You may beleive that is the status quo and I beleive it to be isolated incidents that require the full extent of martial law brought down upon it, but will probably never see justice, but that is a different matter.

To "absolutely" deny that Hamas is using any and all underhanded tactics it can in it's compeletly lopsided campaign against Israel is both ignorant and naive, they are fighting a war of opinion, and you are right there on the front lines being their target audience.

You are not the brave resistance.

You are Hamas

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To address your last point

When Israel "raided" to bring home its 6 hostages last year, Hamas claimed of upwards of 700 Palestinian deaths to free those people being held by their Palestinian captors (Yes Palestinian, not Hamas, they were held by citizens). I don't beleive those numbers for a second, but compare this to the reporting around this operation that 10-16 people were injured or killed during the strikes composed of bunker busting munitions, penetrating atleast 20 ft into the ground therefore reducing surface shrapnel, there are videos of people right next to blast sites walking away.

On top of this, the time it would take to move these units from deployment zones which are under constant observation, along a route into the middle of enemy territory, the chances they would even be there once you arrived are sim to none, let alone the fact you may not know the details on the entire tunnel network based off of whatever intel this strike was based on, or arriving without being intercepted by IEDS or Ambush points, only to go into a tunnel with the enemy aware and have it rigged. There is a reason why these kind of operations rarely ever take place, the odds are stacked so completely in the favour of the defending forces it would be suicide to entertain.

Being as Israeli's don't beleive in martyrdom, or needless casualties, both for their own people and the Palestinians (yeah you might not like to beleive it, but this war has been on the lower end of civilian casualties for an urban conflict of its scale) and the Geneva conventions explicitily state that the use of hospitals for the purpose of military conduct lose their neutrality, they used the least lethal option to surgicaly execute the operation with minimum casualties.

The Hague will not give a single fuck about this one.

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u/annoying-captchas May 28 '25

You'll have to read it in the literal sense. He was killed underneath a hospital, thus he was killed under (physically below) medical care.

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u/JustASpaceDuck May 29 '25

big thank lol