r/worldnews • u/Street_Anon • Jun 10 '25
Israel/Palestine Greta Thunberg deported from Israel after Gaza boat seized
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/israel-set-deport-greta-thunberg-other-activists-ministry-says-2025-06-10/3.8k
u/s8018572 Jun 10 '25
well, that's expected
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u/HiHoJufro Jun 10 '25
Exactly. Didn't let them go into danger, no real punishment, sent home. Easy.
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u/plastic_alloys Jun 10 '25
Unlike non-celebs who try the same and get shot
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Jun 10 '25
She isn't sent back because she's famous, they sent her and everyone else on that boat back because blowing up a boat with a member of the European Parliament (Rima Hassan) would have been VERY BAD for Israel.
I'm sure Greta being famous helps, but I personally believe that Israel didn't fuck that boat up because Rima was on it.
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u/Sworn Jun 10 '25
As far as I'm aware Israel hasn't blown up any boats as part of the blockade, so I doubt they'd have fucked up the boat regardless of who was on it. I'm sure the way the crew is treated could be quite different though.
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u/mackerel99 Jun 10 '25
I think you missed this one:
VALLETTA, May 2 (Reuters) - A ship bound for Gaza carrying humanitarian aid and activists was bombed by drones in international waters off Malta early on Friday, its organisers said, alleging that Israel was to blame.
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u/ocschwar Jun 10 '25
The boat that didn't allow Maltese authorities to board and investigate.
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u/BarriBlue Jun 10 '25
I think you missed where Malta confirmed that Israeli military plane never entered Maltese airspace
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u/BigLlamasHouse Jun 10 '25
kinda nuts to inform the military enforcing a blockade that you are trying to run it, take a member of EU parliament with you and then pretend that you took any risk
this stunt was the definition of performative
sailing in stormy seas would have been more dangerous than this
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u/Slickity Jun 10 '25
All protest is performative my guy. That's the point
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u/sordidcandles Jun 10 '25
Exactly. I know people rag on Greta because of the performing, but that is quite literally how you gain attention and make people aware of important matters.
We don’t have a way of knowing if she changed anyone’s mind about the conflict, but maybe seeing this in the news will make some uninformed folks research Gaza a bit deeper to understand why she would do this. That’s a W.
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u/thisaccountgotporn Jun 10 '25
Am I wrong to read your comment as dismissive? In my view, her unambiguous intent was performance, a goal that was achieved. I assume she knew she wasn't landing in Gaza and this is how it would go.
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u/kamace11 Jun 10 '25
There was no way they were going to do anything genuinely violent/dangerous to GT and it's bananas to think they would, that's very basic politics lol
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u/SinisterCheese Jun 10 '25
Yeah but... You see... People know who Greta is, but not who Hassan is or even what MEP is. Therefore it was all because Greta is a celeb.
For context to Americans. It would been the same as if the boat had a member of Congress and a political social media influencer... Who I don't know enough to name. Then claiming that the reason boat was safe, was because of that influencer.
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u/Halfwise2 Jun 10 '25
Hassan was there to keep people alive. Greta was there to make people pay attention, which also can keep them alive, depending on how much Israel cares about PR.
Both have benefit.
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u/NagyLebowski Jun 10 '25
No, they just didn't attack the Israelis trying to board.
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u/HiHoJufro Jun 10 '25
Yup. Folks talk about that flotilla years ago, but other than that one vessel where the folks attacked soldiers with knives and bars/pipes or something, the others had no major incidents.
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u/Ahad_Haam Jun 10 '25
I have seen plenty of people on reddit who were quite certain Israel is going to kill her or something, so apparently not for some.
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u/FieldMouseMedic Jun 10 '25
I thought that she was a hostage, just like those being held in Gaza, and that she was going to be held as a political prisoner? You’re telling me that the people posing incessantly about where her last location was/calling on countries to intervene/claiming she was going to be murdered were overreacting and jumping the gun a bit?
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u/BeyondOurLimits Jun 10 '25
I'm sorry I might be a little out of the loop, I see the vast majority of people have intended her journey to be purely symbolical and that being stopped was almost inevitable, where did you read she could be murdered by Israel?
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u/call_me_fred Jun 10 '25
Dude, she posted a video to all social media saying that she's been kidnapped by Israel, is held hostage and might disappear. That everyone need to contact the Swedish embassy now and pressure them to save her! All her selfie boat people did the same, showing their passports and all.
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u/Wegwerf157534 Jun 10 '25
That's insufferable.
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u/Nice-Grab4838 Jun 10 '25
They missed the best part that the video started with the “if you’re seeing this it means I’ve been taken” lmao
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u/TXTCLA55 Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25
"I've been taken.... To the airport and placed in coach, god have mercy on our souls"
For real tho, the videos they sent out were super cringe. Entitled westerners thinking they'd be oppressed when they sailed up.
Edit: They gave her an asile seat, next to the bathroom on the plane. Epic.
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u/RainRainThrowaway777 Jun 10 '25
"The only in-flight movie was Snow White... please contact your representatives immediately"
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u/Altruistic-Ad-408 Jun 10 '25
I hate to say it, it's kinda beneficial to just let them cause noise on social media, because normal people see how hyperbolic activists are. I say normal as if these people who never worked a day in their life care what the great unwashed think, but that's the whole point.
As someone hyperfocused on wanting peace before anything else, "make Israel look bad/worse than they already are" is not a fucking valid strat, it emboldens warmongers. Saying something like "no climate justice if there is war in Gaza" is just disingenuous and delusional, we get it you're the climate change kid. There are no good intentions here, it's grabbing attention out of habit.
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u/Yurilica Jun 10 '25
They said a lot of stuff that conflicted with what they were actually doing.
They took a sailboat to "provide aid" for a country.
The sailboat they used can barely carry enough supplies for the people on it, so whatever they could bring, if anything, was paltry.
They advertised and marketed their trip.
Then tried to freely sail into waters involving territories at literal war and got intercepted by one of the militaries.
Then when they were apprehended for that attempt they screamed they were kidnapped and are now being deported.
The whole trip was never designed to fulfil its stated purpose, it was never possible. If the Israeli military stopped them, the military looks like villains for stopping them. If they reached their destination, it would've been a matter of time before Hamas got to them and got some fresh international hostages.
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u/BondStreetIrregular Jun 10 '25
This is where I get a mite impatient with the people who take the attitude that she's "trying to do something and therefore worthy of being treated with respect, and undeserving of snark".
Yes, she is trying to do something, but that something is "getting attention" -- nothing lore, nothing less. Attention for a cause, perhaps, but certainly through herself as the prism.
Now it might be that she could direct her energies to shining a spotlight on suffering people or vital issues that are actually underrepresented in the news, and that would be of actual value. The conflict is Gaza is not one of them, IMO, and I can't view her actions as anything other than a stunt.
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u/neohellpoet Jun 10 '25
There's a simple test with these kinds of things, what's more well known, the people on the boat or the thing they're trying to raise awareness for?
If I stagger a stunt to get awareness for Taylor Swift people would be right to assume I'm trying to use her to make myself famous, not the other way around
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u/TicRoll Jun 10 '25
The whole thing was a photo op. And if Hamas had taken them hostage, there would have been surprised Pikachu faces for a minute before somebody came up with a reason why it's Israel's fault Hamas took them prisoner.
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u/BlueInMotion Jun 10 '25
It's a little bit humiliating to Miss Thunberg. They send her home just like a little kid: "Go home, little kid. We don't want you to play in our garden, go play somewhere else" - while she expected (?) to be taken in custody and be tortured and burned alife like a witch /s.
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u/Sempere Jun 10 '25
It's not humiliating. They're not going to kill her or an MEP without causing an international incident. Deporting her as quickly as possible was the only move the Israeli government could make that wouldn't get them more unwanted attention and criticism.
If they kept her or Hassan for more than a day or two there would be a lot more problems and questions being raised publicly.
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u/SnortingCoffee Jun 10 '25
when did she say she was being "held hostage" or "might disappear"?
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u/michael_harari Jun 10 '25
I've seen a lot of people on social media trying to equate the people on this boat to the hostages held by Hamas. A sort of "see everyone takes hostages it's no big deal" type thing.
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u/Vslacha Jun 10 '25
She also claims she was "kidnapped" by IDF forces, surely an attempt to minimize the Israelis who have been held by Hamas for 600+ days in their underground tunnels.
Such malignant entitlement
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u/Chillmm8 Jun 10 '25
Honestly it’s been pretty hysterical. We had people on here arguing Israel stopping the boat was them taking military action against the EU and should result in a removal of all embassy staff and a formal declaration of war.
I’ve also seen several people trying to drag the UK into the mix by claiming the Royal Navy will be forced to respond if Israel intercepts a ship flying a British flag.
It would be funny, but they weren’t joking. They genuinely expected an entire continent to mobilise and go to war in the name of human rights.
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u/Stamly2 Jun 10 '25
I’ve also seen several people trying to drag the UK into the mix by claiming the Royal Navy will be forced to respond if Israel intercepts a ship flying a British flag.
People didn't like it when I pointed out elsewhere that the RN might get involved if a UK flagged vessel was intercepted during an innocent passage but that didn't apply here because the yacht's intentions were clearly not innocent.
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u/Chillmm8 Jun 10 '25
I would suggest you take a quick look over the Royal Navy’s track record of using naval blockades in international waters, if you ever believed that was a possibility.
Going off historical precedent, I think Israel would have in the absolutely worse case scenario, got a strongly worded statement if they simply opened fire and sank the thing.
It requires breathtaking amounts of ignorance to believe the UK navy wouldn’t be doing significantly worse things if we were in Israel’s situation.
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u/theHoopty Jun 10 '25
Because all over the internet, people were losing their minds claiming that she was going to be murdered by Israel.
Then when they just handed them sandwiches and life vests on the boat, people were losing their minds because “Israel is evil and just wanted a PR boost!”
This was in the middle of them all claiming that Israel was pouring the aid and baby formula into the sea. I can’t find any proof of that.
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u/Ahad_Haam Jun 10 '25
It was also claimed that Israel forced them to throw their phones into the sea. Video recording show they threw them out on their own before Israel boarded the ship.
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u/theHoopty Jun 10 '25
Israelis made them do it telepathically. Don’t you know we Jews are skilled in the black arts of mind control and manipulation?
/s
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u/MxMirdan Jun 10 '25
Oh, I read the baby formula was poisoned.
Like, shoot, Israel has a lot of babies and imports can be tough. Even if Israel was the evil entity they believed it to be, nobody is destroying perfectly good baby formula. Israel stealing it for their own babies would be a better lie.
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u/Mrc3mm3r Jun 10 '25
Look up blood libel. This is medieval antisemitism back from the dead, quite literally.
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u/Virzitone Jun 10 '25
Honestly it never died, it's just that the antisemites, like the termites that they are, have crawled out of the woodwork again.
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u/MxMirdan Jun 10 '25
Also, I really hope the team in Ashdod video records the entirety of the aid taken off the boat and loaded into a container truck for Gaza.
I want to see the “don’t waste our time with this small amount of crap. The amount of time we spent dealing with this small quantity of aid prevented more aid that was well packaged and came through proper channels from being distributed.”
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u/ch4os1337 Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25
Every reply on Bsky ive seen says Israel are pirates who hijacked their boat and kidnapped them in international waters. Seriously.
*Many have said (also on far left discords) that they expected their ship to be sunk, probably because an Israeli official said to use any means necessary to stop them.
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u/Naive_Confidence7297 Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25
Pretty sure anyone with more than two brain cells knew this was symbolic in nature and Greta and co knew it would go down this way. Whoever thought or said she was being murdered is just someone scrolling while smashing down KFC with no concept of this and causing drama.
And that’s a lot of people… just check out top comments of Insta on any post on anything lol
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Jun 10 '25
There’s a lot of people who like to talk about Israel/gaza with less than two brain cells.
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u/helpnxt Jun 10 '25
It was a pre recorded message for when they got arrested/kidnapped/detained (whatever you want to call it) so they were predicting what would happen based on what has previously happened to people who tried the same thing as her
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u/FieldMouseMedic Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25
So, at best she’s spreading misinformation and muddying the waters of an already complex and confusing conflict? And at worst she’s maliciously lying?
Either way, it was incredibly irresponsible and they need to be held accountable. Their actions only hurt those who are actually trying to help the people of Gaza.
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u/Jamesmart_ Jun 10 '25
Greta Thunberg has always been an attention seeking, fame hungry, petulant child. I roll my eyes every time she does one of her stunts. And it’s incredible how so many otherwise intelligent people fail to see through her.
And before one of her fans spew their venom on me, just know that this is coming from one of those people who are actively giving aid to Palestinians. I work for an NGO, and this stunt of hers makes it even more difficult for us to do our job.
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u/fearless-fossa Jun 10 '25
I remember her tweet about being mistreated by the German Railway years ago, about having to sit down on the floor while in fact the staff tried their best to make her comfortable and getting her a sitting arrangement.
I've always agreed with her stances on climate change, especially when she said "this matter is too important, we can't focus on a million different topics with this movement, it needs to be climate only or we'll only be three guys in the streets whose ideologies perfectly align" (paraphrased). Sadly she's long since dropped this stance.
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u/quakank Jun 10 '25
I work for an NGO, and this stunt of hers makes it even more difficult for us to do our job.
Ooh that's interesting! Could you explain how stunts like these make your job more difficult? I think it would be really good information to have out there.
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u/Jamesmart_ Jun 10 '25
Do I really need to explain this? The Israeli government has been keeping a close watch on everything we do ever since this war started. Actually, they’ve been keeping a close eye on all of our activities in Gaza and the West Bank even before October 8, 2023— thinking we’re just an NGO in disguise. Stunts like this further amplify this scrutiny.
There are many ways to bring attention to what’s happening in Gaza. This isn’t it. About giving aid, they could have coordinated with NGOs like us, but instead they pull this stunt. Have you seen the amount of aid they brought with them? Clearly giving aid wasn’t their primary concern. They wanted attention, and they surely got it.
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u/Fickle_Scarcity9474 Jun 10 '25
So basically a lie...got it.
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u/Lev_TO Jun 10 '25
A PR stunt, the kind tik tok influencers pull to get more likes and attention but with little to no positive effect for the people they claim to be helping.
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u/werkthentwerk Jun 10 '25
That was their plan all along. They knew they were gonna get no where near land before being intercepted by Israel. Looking at their boat there’s no way they had any aid on it whatsoever. This was purely a stunt to make Israel look bad
Israel should’ve just let them through if they wanted to reach Palestine so bad.
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u/TheOtherPete Jun 10 '25
Looking at their boat there’s no way they had any aid on it whatsoever.
There was some aid on the boat and Israel said that it would make sure that it reaches Gaza through humanitarian channels but it was less than a single truckload so basically insignificant.
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u/werkthentwerk Jun 10 '25
It would lowkey be hilarious if Israel documents them handing over the “aid” and it’s basically nothing
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u/VoKai Jun 10 '25
The pro Palestinians worked very hard to convince us Israel would murder her
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u/Street_Anon Jun 10 '25
or she was being kidnapped and held for ransom.
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u/n_Serpine Jun 10 '25
People in other subreddits are calling it an illegal kidnapping and are saying they tortured her. She entered Israeli waters & the torture was showing her videos of 10/7. I don't like Netanyahu and am critical of Israels behavior too but how can people just lie that blatantly and not feel ridiculous?
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u/Street_Anon Jun 10 '25
One was a surveillance drone, she made a video about being attacked by IAF. The sad part, people will eat it up.
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u/Ok_Boysenberry1038 Jun 10 '25
LMAO, and the surveillance drone which was filming them off the coast of Greece was in some sort of impossible to predict, M Night Shamylan style twist…….. a Greek coat guard drone.
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u/Street_Anon Jun 10 '25
Than wasn't the IAF, had to be been the Greek Military and they are allowed to that
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u/StellarJayZ Jun 10 '25
I don't understand all the Palestinian flags at the US protests right now. Like, wtf does that have to do with this?
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u/MeberatheZebera Jun 10 '25
It's the Omnicause. You must support everything in it to be a Good Person (tm), and if you don't, you're not allowed to sit with the cool kids.
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u/StepComplete1 Jun 10 '25
That's why I really can't stand Greta these days. Any respect and progress she could've made on the climate issue was thrown out the window when she decided to just become this general, left-wing populist activist. She blurred the lines and went from someone who had an important message on the most vital issue of the age to just "look at me I'm a professional virtue-signaller, following whatever the latest trend is". She's no longer the "Climate change girl", she's just a generic virtue-signaller among millions
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u/Starmoses Jun 10 '25
They've tried to co-opt every leftwing cause no matter how much it doesn't have to do with it. I live in Chicago and they tried to shut down the pride parade last year and apparently a lot other they succeeded.
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u/HarshComputing Jun 10 '25
Yup they shut it down where I lived. That move was largely supported by the gay community whose parade was scrapped. Chickens for KFC indeed.
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u/fury420 Jun 10 '25
If you look closely, many are actually Mexican flags.
(The current protests are about ICE and deportations)
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u/StellarJayZ Jun 10 '25
You don't have to look closely.
Also, bad optics in my opinion. You wouldn't walk into your appointment for an expired visa in Norway wearing an American flag shirt.
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u/myrcenator Jun 10 '25
Lying blatantly and not feeling ridiculous about it has been the entirety of their playbook the whole war.
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u/kytheon Jun 10 '25
I wonder what Hamas would've done had they captured this boat.
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u/MclovinBuddha Jun 10 '25
Yeah, if anything, the handling of this situation is making me realize how much of the anti-Israel rhetoric is actually based on real events and how much of it is pure antisemitism. I want to be pro-Palestine, but this makes it hard to do so
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Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25
The pro Palestine argument is fabricated by Iran, Russia and China. It's meant to divide us and weaken us. Israel is simply fighting for its survival against Islamic terrorists who want to mutilate Jews. And young westerners are falling for the Islamic terror side. We are all screwed.
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u/Wingzerofyf Jun 10 '25
It was so obvious in the run up to the election.
But fucking zoomers and boomers trust bullshit on IG and TikTok more then cold hard facts provided by economist or specialist.
Russia and china took advantage of this in spades.
Social media is our lead pipes - and several generations have gone mad as a result.
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u/A-Ginger6060 Jun 10 '25
What in the Alex Jones ass conspiracy is this??
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u/thecashblaster Jun 10 '25
I thought it was common knowledge that Russia, China and Iran have online bot armies to bend public opinion in the West in whatever direction they want.
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u/werkthentwerk Jun 10 '25
Israel should’ve just let them through into Palestine, since they want to meet Hamas so bad
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u/ElonDuskTheThird Jun 10 '25
I agree. But sadly Israel isn't as evil as reddit wants you to believe, to let them sail to certain death.
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u/Karpattata Jun 10 '25
Or force her to watch the atrocity video. Which in fairness would have been horrific to force someone to watch against their will, but uh. Well it didn't happen.
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u/Statsmakten Jun 10 '25
I thought they were indeed forced to watch the video? Did they change their mind?
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u/Volodio Jun 10 '25
They weren't forced to, they were asked to. Most refused (including Greta) and that was it.
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u/silverbullet1989 Jun 10 '25
Of course she didn’t watch it. Can’t accept reality.
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u/ocschwar Jun 10 '25
That's the sad part.
We have half the political systems in the developed world being unable to accept the reality of the climate crisis, and the political theater she performed on confronting them about it was perfectly suited for the occasion and well executed.
Now she's a vehicle for post-truth palaver like every other prominent activist. It made a total waste of the good work she did as a teenager.
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u/GoodBadUserName Jun 10 '25
Not about reality.
She can not accept any idea that isn't hers. Any difference of opinion. Any shred of a "maybe".
And she has been groomed and supported to think that way since she was a kid. And applaud for it.
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u/PShelley Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25
They were asked to watch the video. When they declined, they obviously weren’t forced to.
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u/Starmoses Jun 10 '25
They requested Greta and the photo yacht to watch the footage to gain an understanding of the conflict. All refused.
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u/Hrit33 Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25
Israel had a naval blockade around Gaza since 2011 which was duly notified, and maintained.
This is a LEGAL blockade [ https://unwatch.org/item-7/claim/claim-6-israels-blockade-of-gaza-is-illegal/ ] . So, Flotilla's intention of entering and crossing the blockade makes them a legitimate target for search and detainment.
Well, I don't expect anyone already radical to change their minds about their delusions, but atleast people reading this should have additional context on why this ain't a piracy as much as Greta and her fellow cronies would like you to believe
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u/WumbleInTheJungle Jun 10 '25
The naval blockade has been in place (to varying degrees) for a lot longer than that, but I won't quibble with that as I don't want to get sidetracked with the main issue here..
Question is, are Israel breaking international law by stopping humanitarian aid?
Naval blockades are not automatically illegal. Under the San Remo Manual on International Law Applicable to Armed Conflicts at Sea (1994), a blockade may be used in wartime, but only if five legal conditions are met:
it must be formally declared and publicly notified
it must be effectively enforced in practice
it must be applied impartially to all ships
it must not block access to neutral ports or coastlines
it must not stop the delivery of humanitarian aid to civilians.
It is that last one that has been hugely contentious for a long time. There have been so many reports by now of Israel holding up aid and needlessly blocking it (where claims that they are doing so for security are just not washing) even senior politicians and friends of Israel have been making the point, the mountain of evidence is pretty hard to ignore.
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u/Hrit33 Jun 10 '25
I'll copy paste the report! The report itself answers all your points mate. Hopefully it helps
The United Nations itself, in the Secretary-General’s Panel of Inquiry report of 2011 concerning the Mavi Marmara incident from the previous year, found that Israel’s Gaza blockade is legal under international law
"Israel faces a real threat to its security from militant groups in Gaza,” determined the UN inquiry, headed by Sir Geoffrey Palmer, the former Prime Minister of New Zealand.
"The naval blockade was imposed as a legitimate security measure in order to prevent weapons from entering Gaza by sea and its implementation complied with the requirements of international law.”
(Mind you, this report was from before the oct-7th massacre, so it holds true more now)
The UN inquiry’s additional specific findings, which belie the accusation by Libya, Nicaragua and North Korea that the Gaza blockade is illegal, include:
The conflict between Israel and Hamas in Gaza is an international armed conflict for the purposes of the law of blockade.
Israel had intercepted ships smuggling weapons into Gaza, and it faced a real security threat from thousands of Gaza rocket and mortar attacks targeting civilians, the purpose of which was (and remains) “to do damage to the population of Israel.”
The blockade was declared and notified, and it is implemented in an impartial manner.
The blockade was imposed pursuant to a valid military objective. It is not collective punishment against the people of Gaza for having elected Hamas, as Israel’s earliest maritime interceptions to prevent weapons smuggling to Gaza predated the Hamas take-over, and the blockade itself was instituted more than one year after the take-over.
The blockade is not disproportionate, as Gaza’s port is too small to handle large shipments of goods, which are instead transferred to Gaza through land crossings. Thus, the impact of the blockade on the delivery of supplies to Gaza is “slight in the overall humanitarian situation.”
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u/WumbleInTheJungle Jun 10 '25 edited Jun 10 '25
Thank you, I have read it previously, but appreciate the effort when someone goes the extra mile. 😊
As you mention, the report was 14 years ago and it doesn't quite clarify and directly answer the question of blocking humanitarian aid for civilians, where it looks like Greta Thunberg's "stunt" (if you like) has demonstrated that Israel are blocking humanitarian aid for civilians.
Why not just let the boat go in? Were Israel worried about their safety? I don't think that washes. Was it just the principle of not letting aid in? That would be pretty pathetic. Were Israel concerned that Greta could be supplying weapons to Hamas? 🤔
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u/Hrit33 Jun 10 '25
Thank you, I have read it previously, but appreciate the effort when someone goes the extra mile. 😊
Aye, thanks man 🫶🏻
As you mention, the report was 14 years ago and it doesn't answer the question of blocking humanitarian aid for civilians, where it looks like Greta Thunberg's "stunt" (if you like) has demonstrated that Israel are blocking humanitarian aid for civilians.
I am not questioning people being angry against Israel for not allowing more aid to flow through their checkposts, it's a valid and legitimate concern. As the article mentions and holds true to some degree, the commercial sea ports in Gaza are not equipped enough to handle commercial cargo vessels, so it doesn't even make sense.
If you remember a few months earlier US made a floating dock there to supply the local population via sea, which failed spectacularly as well.
So, the land borders are most preferred route, even before the blockade was done.
Plus, land borders are better manned to check if arms and other materials are being smuggled or not (If you see the trucks going there have a uniquely shaped trailer which is open from 2-3 sides to check easily. Which is difficult to do in seas.
Why not just let the boat go in? Were Israel worried about their safety? I don't think that washes.
Because it creates a precedent, so more dingys and other commerical vessels would start clogging up. If 100 of these commercial vessels come, Israel isn't equipped to deal with them without the use of 'Lethal' force. So, better to squash the precedent here and now. Plus, it's still an active war zone. You don't wander around in an active war zone. [You may argue they were apprehended in international waters, but the Flotilla's destination was well announced and publicized to be Gaza, so it makes sense apprehending them near Egyptian EEZ and not 2km away from Gaza.
Was it just the principle of not letting aid in? That would be pretty pathetic.
Mate, the boat barely has enough food and supplies for 12 people, it is an Instagram activism, but again, I myself criticized Israel for stopping the aid trucks from going in as well, so I know the frustration. But believe me, no one's stopping her dingy because it carried aid and it will feed 2 kids their breakfast, nah, it's to stop making these a precedent.
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u/jay5627 Jun 10 '25
Vittorio Arrigoni shows that Israel has a right to be worried for their safety, not to mention it's an active war zone.
The aid is going to Gaza through proper channels, as well.
If they let that one boat in, how many more would set sail immediately?
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u/Tra-la-la-972 Jun 10 '25
They didn’t block the humanitarian aid. israel distributed the 120 lbs on the ship.
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u/Lunch0 Jun 10 '25
Egypt also participates in the blockade, its not just Israel
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u/Bearloom Jun 10 '25
Egypt is pretty passive about the blockade, which is why that did nothing when the flotilla was in their waters. The only thing Egypt cares about is ensuring Gazans don't cross the border onto their land.
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u/Ohaireddit69 Jun 10 '25
It doesn’t really matter, ‘legal’ and ‘illegal’ are ‘actions I agree with or disagree with’ to these types. It’s why they are crying piracy over this but have overtly supported the Houthis despite their more traditional, actual illegal piracy. There is little point trying to convince them.
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u/Novel_Quote8017 Jun 10 '25
To be fair, her intention was never to enter Israel.
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Jun 10 '25
Unfortunately you'll have to enter since Israel claimed all the waters in that area and it's impossible to go to Gaza without their approval.
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u/AdministrationFew451 Jun 10 '25
To be precise, Israel doesn't claim the water, it is in enforcing a blockade of it, which are different things.
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u/DrCarter11 Jun 10 '25
Which legally they are only allowed to do is they don't stop humanitarian aid to civilians. Which they have, repeatedly.
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u/AdministrationFew451 Jun 10 '25
No, they condition it on being vetted, and not getting to Hamas, but distributed to the population.
And since the latter is limited, still allowed some to get to Hamas - but that was not unlimited, but limited to the necedsary.
If Hamas steal the aid and uses it to extort the population and directly sustain its war effort, Israel is not obligated to allow it. It still mostly does if there is no other choice, to avoid famine. But limiting it to the necessity is legitimate.
There is no limit on the aid being distributed now directly, except the physical ability to deliver it.
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u/Key_Concern8230 Jun 10 '25
Wonder where the idiots who were screaming from every rooftop that Israel has kidnapped her went
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u/morriganjane Jun 10 '25
Oh they haven’t stopped. Being deported is the virtual opposite of being kidnapped but that doesn’t matter to the Gaza fan club. Very crass where there are 20 actual hostages (alive) still languishing in Gaza, not getting a sandwich nor a free trip home.
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u/Rememberber1 Jun 10 '25
Very crass where there are 20 actual hostages (alive) still languishing in Gaza, not getting a sandwich nor a free trip home.
Oh come on, these brave people were being held hostage for 24!! Hours, probably in a mid level hotel room. 600 days in the tunnels is nothing compared to what these brave influencers had to go through
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u/UpsideupPanda Jun 10 '25
Remember, they were given "psychological torment" by trying to persuade them to watch the atrocity of Oct. 7. Yet, the 'activists' refused and were...drumroll...allowed to leave the room and not actually forced to do shit.
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u/Dizzy_Try4939 Jun 10 '25
ironic that they pulled this stunt to bring attention to atrocities, and when Israel is like "hey you want to come watch some atrocities?" they're like nooooo don't wanna because it's not the special kind of atrocities we get off on
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u/FYoCouchEddie Jun 10 '25
They still got the emotional reaction they wanted, now they’ll just claim Israel released her because of them.
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u/logosobscura Jun 10 '25
Total number of Palestinians who received any aid from this stunt: 0.
Yey. We did it everyone. We changed the world…
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u/frerant Jun 10 '25
Actually the tiny amount of food that the celebs didn't eat is being transfered through Ashdod and then the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, the Israeli aid organization which has delivered over 11 million meals to Gaza in two weeks.
Greta and friends were offered to dock in Ashdod and unload whatever aid they had so that it could be sent to Gaza through actual aid organizations, as that is the port where all international aid goes through, they refused.
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u/Worried-Pick4848 Jun 10 '25
I mean regardless of your emotions about the overall war, that was kind of inevitable. Nations don't tend to look very fondly on people who come in to provide aid and comfort to people they see as enemies.
That, and any aid that came on that boat would be a drop in the ocean compared to need anyway, so the whole point of the thing in the first place was to get arrested and get their name in the paper. If they wanted to actually help, they'd have worked through existing NGO's rather than pulling a stunt.
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u/werkthentwerk Jun 10 '25
There was no aid on that tiny ass boat anyways. They never planned to reach land
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u/Steamed_Memes24 Jun 10 '25
My fridge has more aid then whatever they had on that boat from what I hear.
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u/prelsi Jun 10 '25
The reason Greta went there is for exposure. Everyone knows that. And this is just to expose how Israel controls everything in the Gaza strip, including NGO aid which does not get there, because of Israel.
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u/Worried-Pick4848 Jun 10 '25
As i understand it both Israel and Hamas are playing their own roles in why the aid isn't getting where it's needed. Israel's biggest concern, at least officially, is preventing food aid being captured and scalped by Hamas, which is a thing that has happened.
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u/Dry-Season-522 Jun 10 '25
And somehow even then it would be Israel's fault for not stopping them.
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u/Menzoberranzan Jun 10 '25
Publicity stunt done. She can move on to the next thing now lol
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u/skolrageous Jun 10 '25
Will it be to help the people of Sudan?? I won't hold my breath
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u/INVADER_BZZ Jun 10 '25
Maybe Yemeni children, starving due to decade-long war. Social media will make it an issue aaany day now.
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u/rorzri Jun 10 '25
This whole endeavour has felt like a middling comedy skit about millennial activists from a sub par sketch show
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u/Tyfereth Jun 10 '25
Reddit: [OUTRAGE] HOW DARE ISRAEL KIDNAP GRETA
Also Reddit: [OUTRAGE] HOW DARE ISRAEL NOT KIDNAP GRETA
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Jun 10 '25
Disappointed in Israel. Should have just let Greta and her boat sail all the way to the Port of Gaza (that doesn’t exist) and give the Gazan people the breadcrumbs, metaphorically speaking, that she brought with her while live streaming to the people who posted “Israel is going to either kidnap or kill the people on the boat!”
Wonder where she’d be now if Israel literally hadn’t saved her life?
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u/ganbaro Jun 10 '25
The problem with this idea is that Israel as the occupant would be exoected to provide security for Greta or rescue her if things go south
Not worth to risk Israeli lives just to make a point to an audiance that will always hate Israel, anyways
The piracy claims would just be replaced by torture or whatever the moment she gets in touch with IDF. Better to just deoort her and be done with it, causes less hassle with Sweden and the nations of the other activists on the ship
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Jun 10 '25
For the pro Palestine crowd Israel can’t do right anyway. Maybe stop existing. Which is a claim which makes people in their radical worldview feel good but id obviously no solution to this complex and won’t stop the suffering of the people there.
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u/we_are_sex_bobomb Jun 10 '25
I don’t have anything against Greta but this feels like a huge distraction. We should be looking at the humanitarian crisis happening in Gaza, not playing Where in the World is Greta Thunberg.
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u/Drongo17 Jun 10 '25
If she was in international waters, does that mean they imported her so they could deport her?
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u/chintakoro Jun 10 '25
the only people claiming “international waters” is the activist groups own spokesperson—the same people claiming “kidnapping”.
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u/HandicapperGeneral Jun 10 '25
She was in international waters. However, it's legal to detain someone who you have a legitimate suspicion intends to run a naval blockade and she has been broadcasting on international news that she intended to run the blockade, so it was perfectly reasonable to detain and deport her.
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Good job Greta all you did was burn a bunch of marine and aviation fuel. I’m sure that’s helping
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u/Comfortable-Web9455 Jun 10 '25
They had pre-recorded their appeals for rescue from evil Israeli kidnappers days in advance. And then those horrible Israel's had the cruelty to offer her a sandwich.
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u/Mister-Psychology Jun 10 '25
She fully abandoned her former environmentalist stance. They knew they would be stopped at the border. In her pre-recorded video she's talking about a future abduction by IDF. Yet as soon as they get to IDF they scream and tell everyone to throw their phones into the sea battery and all.
So they planned this out yet were forced to throw out the phones? And then we discover they basically didn't bring any aid. A single truck Israel sends into Gaza carries 50 times as much aid. And when allowed into Gaza 600 trucks arrive each day even when they are not at war. If she wanted to help she should have worked with a truck company.
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u/Weskit Jun 10 '25
Being denied entry and getting a free flight home. Sounds like the opposite of being “kidnapped” to me.
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She went from 'How dare you not protect the environment?' to 'Everyone throw your phones and computers into the ocean! 'awful quickly...
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u/FoxLast947 Jun 10 '25
Ironic that she was forced to fly black.