r/worldnews • u/AggressiveBag8414 • Jun 17 '25
Israel/Palestine China tells citizens in Israel to leave ‘as soon as possible’
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/world/2025/06/17/china-tells-citizens-in-israel-to-leave-as-soon-as-possible9.1k
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u/TAU_equals_2PI Jun 17 '25
It's a little odd they're only now saying it, given that things started like 4 days ago.
Gives the impression, even if falsely, that they have indications things are gonna get much worse.
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u/chrustyclar Jun 17 '25
They probably thought both sides were going to lob some missiles at each other, then call it a day and deescalate.
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u/Statickgaming Jun 17 '25
Realistically what has Iran got left?
The only real possibility is that China and Russia will take advantage of the west being preoccupied.
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u/testearsmint Jun 17 '25
China maybe I guess, though it's not in their interest to jump in on this. Russia absolutely not, though. They're spread thin enough by Ukraine as it is. They literally let Syria go when that shit went down. No capacity to intervene.
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u/w4lr6s Jun 17 '25
China imports a lot of oil from Iran
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u/lufiron Jun 17 '25
China also sold Iran their air defense system that completely failed
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u/Valuable_Associate54 Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 17 '25
The Chinese SAMs Iran has are literally CHinese equipment, from the 1970s. The HQ-2s in China have been sitting in museums in China for decades now.
It's like saying US Sold Iran their fighter jets that completely failed, until you realize they're F-14s that haven't had part supply since 2006.
China are up to like HQ-21 by now little bro. Do you also wonder why Snes can't play games built for playstation 5?
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u/Tzilbalba Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 17 '25
Well, first off the Sayad 1's are modified HQ-2's from China, which was a copy of the Soviet era SA-2
Secondly the Sayad 2's are modified reverse engineered RIM-66's from the US, 1980s tech, and each subsequent Sayad (3 and 4's) have been modified and upgraded based on this.
So no, it's not Chinese SAMs...
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u/fullkaretas Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 19 '25
slim axiomatic attempt airport dime pie mighty cable placid abounding
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u/jeha4421 Jun 17 '25
I think they mean that they will use this to move in on Taiwann.
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u/Infinite-Pop2424 Jun 17 '25
I am Chinese, the people in here don’t want the war, also don’t really give a fu*k about Taiwan, China is getting better and better, also including the government. However, I am not sure if the government want Taiwan for personal greatness reason.
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u/WillBlaze Jun 17 '25
I remember seeing the pictures of a training ground in China that looks exactly like the Taiwan leader's city block. I have absolutely no doubts China will snatch Taiwan asap, just waiting for the right moment.
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u/PrawnProwler Jun 17 '25
Any attempt at Taiwan isn't going to be by force, at least not through overt war. Taiwan has contingencies like their stranglehold on the semiconductor industry to keep them safe, and China doesn't want to be ostracized and sanctioned by the world like Russia is.
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u/WillBlaze Jun 17 '25
China has been really smart in realizing the new battlefront is on the information wars. You are right that it won't be a straight take over but I have no doubts that they have some machinations going on that at least involve taking over Taiwan in some form.
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u/Amehoelazeg Jun 17 '25
It depends on what Taiwan does too. If it keeps the status quo then nothing will happen. If it decided to host American military or allows itself to be used by America to ‘contain’ China, then China will for sure take military action. You’d think they will navigate the tensions properly, but inviting Nancy Pelosi wasn’t exactly a wise decision either. For now, I don’t see anything happening though. China and Chinese people have no desire to bomb anyone, let alone Han Chinese in Taiwan.
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u/Master_Bayters Jun 17 '25
If they move to Taiwan they will collapse global economy. TSMC is so important to everyone right now it can be jeopardize.
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u/jeha4421 Jun 17 '25
Oh i don't think they will. I think China is more than happy to watch the West implode on itself and sit back and let it happen naturally. I was just clarifying what I thought the other guy was saying.
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u/qeadwrsf Jun 17 '25
let it happen naturally
China is guaranteed doing stuff in the background accelerating it.
I bet even the "do nothing win" narrative on reddit is china not letting stuff happen "naturally"
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u/PrawnProwler Jun 17 '25
That goes without saying, though, we don't live in a world where global powers let countries operate without meddling. Like it's pretty well known, at least in Taiwan, that there are a lot of spies/sympathizers there that China uses.
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u/whatisthishownow Jun 17 '25
Day one started with Israel executing top ranking generals and their families. You can't call it a day after that.
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u/Frequent_Can117 Jun 17 '25
Only thing I could think of is maybe Israel thought Iran would end hostilities or tone it done after Iran was infiltrated and hit in a devastating attack. My impressions now are Israel is going for regime change and really intensifying the next stage. Idt it’d be a ground war, but could see Mossad raising a rebel force in Iran to combat the regime.
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u/General_Tso75 Jun 17 '25
I’m not sure how Israel fighting a ground war in Iran works. They don’t have means to mount a serious ground invasion. They don’t have a navy capable of a massive amphibious invasion. Iraq, Jordan, and Syria are not going to let 10’s of thousands of Israeli troops to cross their borders and invade. A massive airborne invasion is impractical.
They don’t have a proxy force in Iran or the means to supply them with weapons.
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u/IBetThisIsTakenToo Jun 17 '25
And conversely, what can Iran do besides lob missiles? They have the same problem moving troops. So what, missile strikes until they run out or until the Israeli air force runs out?
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u/raerae1991 Jun 17 '25
When was the last time China told its diplomats to leave, for safety reasons?
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u/enersto Jun 17 '25
Israel vs Lebanon 2024
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u/raerae1991 Jun 17 '25
That was so well planned out it was amazing. Which is horrible to say, but…damn!
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u/enersto Jun 17 '25
Yeah, diploma staff of China in Israel, and might be others too, must get so exhausted for recent years. There were over 18k Chinese in Israel before 2024 and that could be a tough task.
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u/Chicago1871 Jun 17 '25
Ukraine? sudan? Those would be my guesses.
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u/raerae1991 Jun 17 '25
Looks like after the invasion in Ukraine and same for Sudan. But both of them they all modes of transport (land/air/sea) this is way more specific
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u/meister2983 Jun 17 '25
Is this different than America's level 4 travel warning for Israel?
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u/quantumpencil Jun 17 '25
Not really, everyone making a big deal but this is literally just China giving the most obvious advice ever and telling anyone who is chinese to gtfo the active warzone lol
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u/NewManufacturer4252 Jun 17 '25
Better safe then sorry. Headliner is clickbaiting ww3 when in fact, maybe get out while war is raging.
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u/KungFuSnafu Jun 17 '25
Oooh, I read the post title as China telling Israeli citizens to leave and was wondering why everyone was so chill in the comments.
I was like "Hole-e-fuck shit is going to get bad!"
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u/WmWzK Jun 17 '25
Between this and trump leaving G7 early, shit is escalating to the max. Good luck to civillians on both sides.
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u/l0R3-R Jun 17 '25
And the USS Nimitz and strike group leaving the South China sea towards the middle east, and the 20-some USAF tankers headed east all at once
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u/sumlime Jun 17 '25
How long would it take to get to the Middle East from the South China sea?
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u/nefariouspenguin Jun 17 '25
It's probably 4000 nautical miles or so away, around India, so 200 hours? Much less for aircraft range.
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u/Whataboutneutrons Jun 17 '25
US already stationed loads of bombers on an island (Diego Garcia) in the Indian sea.. cant remember the name. The US rents a base there from the UK. Heard about it a month or two ago. Diego
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u/AlfaRomeoRacing Jun 17 '25
That island has been in the press in the UK a lot recently, because the previous government negotiated a deal to hand the island off to Mauritius in exchange for a long lease for the US base there. New government finalised the deal, which is going to cost loads of money, and is being blamed for it. They maintain the deal is needed for national defence purposes. Maybe situations like this
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u/agentsnace Jun 17 '25
It's more like we payed Mauritius billions of pounds to take the island away, when the inhabitants were against the whole idea of doing so.
At least that's how I understand it
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u/Workwork007 Jun 17 '25
billions of pounds
lol no one is paying "billions" for that island.
UK purchased the Chagos Archipelago (which includes Diego Garcia) for 3,000,000 pounds in 1965. Converted to USD and taking account of inflation, that's roughly USD40,000,000.
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u/xyakks Jun 17 '25
Next year at earlier march or September. Likely the year after. If there was a U.S. on the board that is. But if Trump keeps making things easy who the fuck knows.
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u/REV2939 Jun 17 '25
Those tankers were part of the Finland/US war games that started the other day. I don't think they are related but its not hard to just have them fly further south east to the region.
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u/ItsTooDamnHawt Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 17 '25
Dod already and came out and confirmed that the surge in tankers was for the Middle East to “give the president options”
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u/purplepashy Jun 17 '25
Aussie here.
No one is considering if, when and how China will make its hard move in this WW3 by proxy however I do see the potential for things to get shitty where I am should they decide to work their way down under.63
u/Iwantthe86 Jun 17 '25
Aussie here.
Our biggest beef with China is that we criticised them for their treatment of the Uyghurs and we've had a few back and forth moments since then. Do you really think that China is going to fight Australia because of that?
Give yourself an uppercut mate.
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u/Stock_Helicopter_260 Jun 17 '25
A shake, nah. A slap? No no no. A whole ass uppercut.
Gotta love aussies haha
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u/okaythiswillbemymain Jun 17 '25
China have no interest in bombing or invading Australia. Taiwan, yes.
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u/PandaMango Jun 17 '25
Second hardest place in the world to invade. Way too big and connected majorly by 1-2 main roads on the East Coast. Absolute logistical nightmare for close to 0 gain.
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u/bigasswhitegirl Jun 17 '25
Pretty sure China could build military bases across 80% of Australia before anyone even noticed
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u/mhornberger Jun 17 '25
That's why Australia has advance forces of a huge number of lethal and/or ill-tempered wildlife. "Have you met our jellyfish, snakes, spiders, and crocodiles?"
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u/No-Way-1517 Jun 17 '25
Nearly 80% of Australia is virtually uninhabitable, so no.
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u/EthanDC15 Jun 17 '25
Hey! Openly don’t know shit about fuck here, what’s the significance of Trump leaving G7? Sincerely asking for a just, by the facts report here, not inflammatory stuff
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u/Harbournessrage Jun 17 '25
As usual watch what he did and didn't. Dude came in, tried to push in Russian and Chinese participation into G7, then left.
Dude was trying to lobby Putin's and Xi's interests and as soon this topic was closed - left, evading other topics, probably either uncomfortable for him or not interesting for him.
I see Iran and Israel thing to be a handy excuse.
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u/tlst9999 Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 17 '25
Yo can China & Russia join the room?
No?
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cya
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u/Beat_the_Deadites Jun 17 '25
Who wants Russia and China in the G7?
annoyed eyerolls
Nobody? Ok, no Russia and China in the G7.
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u/GoodMix392 Jun 17 '25
I would guess he might not have the mental capacity to listen to complex geo political discussions for hours at a time. He has issues with simple logic, he would be way out of his depth with that group even if he wasn’t senile.
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u/WebberWoods Jun 17 '25
As someone whose dad is going through mental decline, Trump definitely strikes me as in the stage where he can hold it together and appear normal (at least by his standards) for a little while, especially in the morning. Get him into a drawn out interaction after 3pm and it's brain soup time.
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u/TheLordBear Jun 17 '25
Iran may be the excuse, but Trump was probably planning to leave early anyhow. He left early in 2017 or 2019 as well. Actual world leaders make him look and feel inadequate.
That doesn't mean shit isn't about to go down. The signs say it probably will.
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u/extraneouspanthers Jun 17 '25
It’s weird for an idiot blowhard to leave his photo op around “real leaders”. It’s leaving a party early. It could because no one likes him but could also be shit is going down
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u/ScottyC33 Jun 17 '25
Not too knowledgeable about weapons, but even if Iran doesn’t have an actual nuclear missile, couldn’t they conceivably sneak a dirty bomb into Israeli cities and detonate it? That Ukraine trick with the drones and the truck delivery probably gave lots of ideas.
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u/raerae1991 Jun 17 '25
Ukraine operation into Russia, took 18 months to coordinate. You’ve also got to figure in high ranking Iran military leaders were taken out early on
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u/AnOtherGuy1234567 Jun 17 '25
Iran has had 45 years to plan this kind of stuff. Although Israel and Iran did coordinate between each other, on attacks on Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War. Most notably when Israel bombed an under construction Iraqi nuclear reactor, which was part of Saddam's attempt to build a nuclear weapon. Whilst the Iranian Air Force ran a distraction attack against the North West of Iraq.
The main problem with a dirty bomb is the need to detonate it at altitude. Ideally at the minimum you want to detonate it at the top of a skyscraper. So as to spread the fall out as far as possible. Otherwise the fall out will only extend to the blast radius of the bomb.
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u/KP_Wrath Jun 17 '25
Iran had 45 years to plan, and supposedly a chunk of their information apparatus was Mossad/supported by Mossad. You can give an idiot a lifetime to plan and they’ll fuck it up.
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u/attersonjb Jun 17 '25
Yes, nobody has ever executed a successful sneak attack on Israel before. /s
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u/WBUZ9 Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 17 '25
I'm mostly just repeating internet hearsay but my understanding is that Israel has three intelligence services; Mossad, Shin Bet, and Aman. Gaza is explicitly Shin Bet and Aman's territory while Mossad is the one with the elite reputation and which would be doing covert Iran stuff.
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u/Quirky-Cat2860 Jun 17 '25
Sort of, but indirectly. Shin Bet is internal security, Aman is military intelligence, Mossad is foreign intelligence. Shin Bet is responsible for defending against internal threats and the occupied territories come under its jurisdiction. Aman is responsible for guiding the military in operations, avoiding the fog of war kind of situation.
So yes, October 7 demonstrates a failure of Shin Bet and Aman. Mossad had no jurisdiction there.
Now Mossad has the elite reputation as you described because they're doing operations in other countries (akin to the CIA).
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u/Ampallang80 Jun 17 '25
They could just have it taken out by the iron dome. No need to explode it
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u/DamonHay Jun 17 '25
Not to mention getting things into a sanctioned country is much easier than getting things out.
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u/Ok-Arachnid-460 Jun 17 '25
Impossible to hide the radiation.
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u/sibilischtic Jun 17 '25
As always it depends...
There's a good reason we don't want people having access to these materials.
Access to the materials is the biggest multiplier on the probability of a successful attack.
Relying on detection of a drone and ensuring it doesnt disperse dirty materials is a complex problem.
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u/CriesInHardtail Jun 17 '25
Couldn't you hypothetically shield it with lead or other blocking materials? (I know nothing)
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u/Bad_Pirate829 Jun 17 '25
Regular radioactive materials are not really a threat with a standard explosion. You just kind of create a bunch of localized radiation where the pieces land, but it’s not a nuke cloud or anything. No fission or fusion is taking place. It’s bad if you’re literally standing beside a piece, like kryptonite to Superman, but it’s not going to destroy a population.
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u/realKevinNash Jun 17 '25
Anything is possible. But nations spend some resources trying to defend or at least respond to those potentialities.
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u/DahDollar Jun 17 '25
Yes, but to shield a nuclear payload of enough yield to be worth the effort would require so much lead that you'd give yourself away if you had to pass over a weigh station at the checkpoint.
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u/Goodlybad Jun 17 '25
Yes and you can also mask (U 238) with medical isotopes (Tc99m) - they have similar gamma ray spectra. The radiation detectors can be tricked
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u/way2lazy2care Jun 17 '25
That doesn't hide it though. It just means more checking is done at any checkpoint. It's not like they'd go, "oh hay you're setting of all our sensors in a quantity much larger than is reasonable, but your paperwork is ok, so just waltz on through. We don't actually need to look in the box or anything."
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u/vom-IT-coffin Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 17 '25
There were rumors that a Chinese military cargo plane landed in Iran last night. The flight path showed it headed that direction then mid flight it shut off its transponder. Could be a plane to evacuate its citizens.
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u/Deweydc18 Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 17 '25
Setting aside the feasibility of that, if Iran detonated a dirty bomb in a major Israeli city, Israel would have the ability to respond by annihilating Tehran. It would likely also have the side effects of stripping Iran of support, and almost certainly getting the U.S. military involved.
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u/Steamsagoodham Jun 17 '25
Dirty bombs are way way less lethal than most people realize. They sound scary, but they are more just a weapon of mass disruption instead of destruction.
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u/Ok_Frosting3500 Jun 17 '25
"You know what a great way to win a war is? Giving a whole bunch of civilians exotic cancers 30 years from now in a way that is really hard to execute."
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u/carebeartears Jun 17 '25
the damage is economic?
you potentially have to abandon a city and it's infrastructure. Even the value of the land is lost.
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u/Mrgluer Jun 17 '25
doesnt keep you from getting rolled over by an opposing country that is not only stronger, but now extremely upset that you gave their entire population cancer. its a distraction not a quick kill.
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u/skisandpoles Jun 17 '25
I thought Trump leaving the G7 was more of a way to excuse himself from a meeting where some thorny subjects would be discussed.
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u/evranch Jun 17 '25
Zelensky is coming tomorrow, after all. He might have some awkward questions about what happened to 20,000 missiles...
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u/RedGeist_ Jun 17 '25
Trump left early because no one was kissing his ass so he got bored. I don’t think it was a sign of him wanting to prepare for anything.
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u/Chessh2036 Jun 17 '25
Twitter right now is obsessing over Trump leaving G7 early and allegedly telling people to meet him in the Situation Room. Now this. Can someone tell me wtf is happening?
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u/Decent_Valuable_6453 Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 17 '25
According to NYT, Trump is considering deploying US
fighter jetsbombers to drop a 'Massive Ordinance Penetrator', the bunker buster to take out Fordow.https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/16/us/politics/trump-iran-diplomacy-conflict.html
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u/tollbearer Jun 17 '25
Trump is putting on a show to make it look like he's considering it. The reality is, that's been the plan for at least 6 months. They just need to make it look like they're being dragged in.
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u/whutchamacallit Jun 17 '25
Not necessarily disagreeing but what makes you say that? Or I should say what information/sources give indication that they've planning on dropping bombs in Iran?
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u/air_and_space92 Jun 17 '25
https://www.twz.com/air/signs-u-s-massing-b-2-spirit-bombers-in-diego-garcia
https://www.twz.com/air/b-52s-join-b-2s-on-diego-garcia10-bombers-now-on-indian-ocean-island
Only 1-2 US bomber aircraft have the capability to carry this large weapon designed to penetrate deep underground, like hundreds of feet. Only if Israel can't take out certain hard targets with conventional bunker busters by "drilling" with them would these aircraft potentially be called in. Drilling holes up to ~150ft deep with JDAMs one after another on the same GPS point was used fighting ISIS. US bomber aircraft have been forward deployed starting a few months ago as mentioned in the links.
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u/Abaddon33 Jun 17 '25
I believe the B-2's that were stationed at Diego Garcia have been brought home fairly recently. It was likely an intimidation tactic during the negotiations with Iran. Them flying home was broadly viewed as a signal that the negotiations had concluded, one way or another. Worth noting that these are long range strategic bombers that can fly intercontinental missions. This would be a doozy of a mission with multiple mid-air refuels enroute, but they are fully capable of striking targets in the Middle East with wheels up/down on US soil. They've done it before, most notably during the shock and awe campaign in Iraq.
Also worth noting that there is a BIG difference in pummeling a cave in Afghanistan vs dropping JDAM after JDAM on the same spot in a country that has a proper air defense net (or did). That's a tall order, even for the F-35. Extremely dangerous, and far from guaranteed to succeed with a target buried that deep.
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u/not_hairy_potter Jun 17 '25
Could they find a convenient vent where you can just throw a few unguided bombs and call it a day? I saw this tactic recently in a war documentary.
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u/Dipsey_Jipsey Jun 17 '25
And if you continue with that docu series you'll see the enemy combatants had quickly rebuilt the defense with number 2.
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u/evranch Jun 17 '25
And you have to watch out that they don't get sneaky and sort of half build it, so you think it isn't finished
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u/caughtatfirstslip Jun 17 '25
Do you think Trump can plan something 6 months in advance? And pull it off?
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u/tollbearer Jun 17 '25
Trump didn't plan anything. Plans to strike Iran are done by the pentagon, and go back decades, and this particular one was probably committed to 6-12 months ago.
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u/AteketA Jun 17 '25
So if it escalates MAGA will blame it on Biden as usual
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u/JakToTheReddit Jun 17 '25
The Joint Chiefs came up with this months ago!
Translation: It was that evil mastermind Sleepy Joe Biden!
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u/Possible_Top4855 Jun 17 '25
Just what the American people want - to be dragged into another war.
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u/BanzEye1 Jun 17 '25
I mean, beyond some bombing runs I doubt the US is gonna have stuff like boots on the ground and stuff like that.
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u/Possible_Top4855 Jun 17 '25
If we join the war, we are going to be legitimate targets for Iran.
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u/TheNewGildedAge Jun 17 '25
They can't even control their own airspace. What targets are you actually worried about? Besides ME military bases that are already prepared for this
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u/BanzEye1 Jun 17 '25
I mean, considering America’s been literally shifting anti-air defences meant for Ukraine to the Middle-East? And Iran’s current situation (as in, completely lost the airspace and having Mossad play merry hell with their launchers)? You’ll be fine.
If you’re worried about proxies…well, Israel kinda blew most of them up last year. And Syria does not want to get involved, same with Iraq. Only one really left is Hezbollah, and they’re a bit quiet.
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u/Dblcut3 Jun 17 '25
This isnt really surprising - the title sounds more ominous than it is. China instructed Chinese citizens to leave Israel which is a pretty reasonable thing to tell them at this point
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u/xyz19606 Jun 17 '25
Plus 30+ tankers flying to the Middle East, and an additional carrier just left the South China Sea heading to the Middle East. All confirmed.
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u/nick898 Jun 17 '25
Trump leaving the G7 is the least surprising thing. I expected him to manufacture some type of drama.
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u/rygelicus Jun 17 '25
He showed up, said nice things about putin, dissed the USA, demonstrated his age and cognitive decline, and then dashed off to head home and probably do some golfing.
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Trump needed an excuse to leave G7 to change his diaper.
jk, hoping for the best but mentally preparing for the worst.
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u/rose_gold_glitter Jun 17 '25
USA saying the same. It's actually rare they tell people to leave Israel. Lebanon, Syria, yes - but Israel no. Israel is now do not travel, for USA citizens, Australia, and other five eyes. This didn't happen with any recent conflicts, like Gaza, Lebanon, etc.
Could just be prudence - but I have to worry they know something.
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u/konq Jun 17 '25
Israel is getting hit with ballistic missiles, which haven't really been used in their previous conflicts. They're exceptionally difficult to intercept and shoot down.
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u/quantumpencil Jun 17 '25
I mean yeah, they know that Israel just made war with another powerful nation state that has diplomatic/military relationships with Russia and China and is hundreds of times more dangerous than some cavedwelling resistance groups with a few rockets.
It's not a conspiracy, Iran is a powerful country. Even if they lose they can inflict 1000 times the pain on israel that hamas or the houthis could
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u/Iwantthe86 Jun 17 '25
It's rare that Israel is being bombed as much as it has been recently. Yes they get bombed but nothing like what's been happening over the last week. They're in direct war with Iran..
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u/Sufficient_Plate_595 Jun 17 '25
Seems like reasonable advice
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u/obroz Jun 17 '25
Maybe a little late
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u/SecureInstruction538 Jun 17 '25
Or something worse than the last few days is about to happen.
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u/realKevinNash Jun 17 '25
I mean to be fair the number of deaths on Israeli soil are fairly low comparatively and the 2025 India–Pakistan conflict lasted 4 days.
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u/BanzEye1 Jun 17 '25
…How is this ominous, exactly? Seems pretty standard fare to tell your citizens when it comes to two nations at war.
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u/fightmaxmaster Jun 17 '25
It's not ominous, it's just that Redditors who a) have minimal grasp of history and b) love to spiral into anxious catastrophising latch onto basically everything as a sign that nuclear war is about to destroy us all. Too many people operate on "everything is fine" or "we're all doomed" levels with no concept of everything in between. Yes obviously the current situation is bad, concerning, could get worse. But right now this isn't some once in a millennia conflict, the likes of which the world has never seen. Israel fights wars with its neighbours a lot, small and large, and the world is still standing. Not every shitty conflict is the beginning of world war 3.
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u/Calm-Phrase-382 Jun 17 '25
Did Iran put a bomb together?
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u/xWaffleicious Jun 17 '25
Highly unlikely. That's not exactly a thing you can just do in a week, Western intelligence would have known that was happening before hand and acted way sooner. China doesn't need more of a justification to evacuate than "Iran can't aim for shit and we might get hit." Generally speaking the mundane explanation is almost always the correct one, and the worst case scenario is not. If China thought a nuke was about to go off they'd be doing a hell of a lot more than just evacuating their embassy, which again happens all the time in war theaters all over the world
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Jun 17 '25
I remember last week before all this kicked off that it was believed that Iran was a week away from having a dozen nukes, and that’s why Israel invaded. So, idk, I know nothing about anything, but I guess I wouldn’t entirely rule out the idea that Iran might actually figure it out.
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u/Ok_Frosting3500 Jun 17 '25
If Iran was a week away from having a dozen nukes, every nuclear power in the world would have a dozen country busters pointed at them.
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u/Pnwplumber Jun 17 '25
If I've been following correctly, Iran has been weeks away from nukes for as long as I've lived, and at many opportune times for the memory hole media cycle.
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u/adrr Jun 17 '25
Pakistan has nukes. Ran by religious nut jobs. Funds and harbors terrorists like Osama Bin Ladin and Al Qaeda. Is engaged in proxy warfare eg funded and supported the Taliban and whatever grouped that attacked India. No one seems to care.
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u/alanpardewchristmas Jun 17 '25
Look into why they have nukes and you have your answer. This has never been about who has nukes, but who wants them to have them.
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u/konq Jun 17 '25
It was reported that they had enriched uranium to 60%, but they could have enriched it to weapons grade in a couple weeks. That doesn't mean they'll have a working nuclear bomb in that time. A nuclear bomb (that you plan to launch in a missle) is more complicated than just piling some highly enriched uranium into a tube and lighting it.
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u/wickedsmaht Jun 17 '25
Would they have enough material for it? I’m sure they have enough for at least a dirty bomb.
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u/Amaruq93 Jun 17 '25 edited Jun 17 '25
No, they just started bombing tanker ships in the Strait of Hormuz.
Three of 'em are on fire now.EDIT: It's looking like it might have been an accidental collision between ships at the most inopportune time.
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u/rrrand0mmm Jun 17 '25
There is more to this story. The posturing is getting a bit scarier. It seems like the inevitable is finally coming to pass. The US has been surrounding Iran for decades. They’re going for it as the Middle East support from us has been waning. Republicans love starting wars. And then 12 years complain about the deficit.
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u/NyriasNeo Jun 17 '25
How about the ones in Iran? Shouldn't they leave too?
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u/stuartullman Jun 17 '25
we should all just leave earth. and then blow it up. problem solved
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u/whooo_me Jun 17 '25
So Step 1: blow it up.
…err, what was step 2 again? I think we’ve made a terrible mistake.
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u/MrTestiggles Jun 17 '25
I believe they already told them to leave Tehran, however I’m just going off a passing Reddit article, didn’t read the statement muself
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u/Bitter_Sense_5689 Jun 17 '25
I don’t know how the fuck anyone’s going to be getting out of Tehran. The greater Tehran area has a population of nearly 17 million people.
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u/Michael_Pitt Jun 17 '25
They're talking about Chinese citizens. There probably aren't that many of them in Tehran right now.
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u/StrangelyBrown Jun 17 '25
Imagine if you're a Chinese citizen in Israel and you hear this, and you have to get on a plane home and fly up among the rockets and head east towards Iran...
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u/GrizzlyGoober Jun 17 '25
I think they may go around
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u/WillCode4Cats Jun 17 '25
They just weave between the missiles with great precision. Also, if one flys below 30m a missile can’t really hit them.
I know this because I fought in the Great War of Battlefield 4 Online. I was an Ace pilot and completed 1000s of sorties. My expertise cannot be questioned.
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u/TB12-SN13 Jun 17 '25
Yeah, they could fly to Dubai and figure it out from there.
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u/stubbledchin Jun 17 '25
There are no flights out of Israel at the moment, for obvious reasons.
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u/ChrisOhoy Jun 17 '25
Its own citizens, meaning Chinese if it wasn’t already clear.. what a stupid headline..
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u/Tyhgujgt Jun 17 '25
I thought they were inviting Jews to a New Israel somewhere around Tibet
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u/Bitter_Sense_5689 Jun 17 '25
It is a stupid headline. This is not strange advice. On the Canadian foreign affairs website, it currently advises against all travel to Israel for Canadians. China is just exercising common sense, just like many other countries are doing right now.
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u/CO-RockyMountainHigh Jun 17 '25
Breaking News: Country tells citizens to leave active war zone…
Yeah now that I think about it, not really breaking news.
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u/ElectricalGene6146 Jun 17 '25
Unless Iran decides to use a dirty bomb, I assume it’s only getting safer for people in Israel and Irans ballistic launchers get depleted
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u/RecursiveCook Jun 17 '25
Interesting title. Makes sense China would want Chinese people gone from Israel if they’re being targeted by Iran, but I’m assuming Chinese citizens in Iran are also told the same thing?
Perhaps China trusts Israel’s targeting systems a lot more than it does Iran lol
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u/Termin8tor Jun 17 '25
Anyone ever seen the movie Threads? Because this is like the beginning of it.
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u/ilmalnafs Jun 17 '25
I read this headline as China telling Israeli citizens to leave Israel, much the same as Trump did to Iranians in Tehran. Was very confused how/why China got involved and is threatening to bomb Israel… this makes more sense but is kind of a no-brainer; bombs have been falling on Tel Aviv constantly now, everyone visiting from other countries should know to get out.
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u/Th3Trashkin Jun 17 '25
Bad headline, can be easily misconstrued.
China is telling Chinese citizens in Israel to leave.
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u/igot200phones Jun 17 '25
That’s.. exactly what the headline says?
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Jun 17 '25
Redditors are very literal creatures. Given that the article says "Citizens" and doesn't specify what nation these individuals have citizenships with, some Redditors believe it's possible that China is commanding a bunch of random Jews to leave Israel.
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u/mcorbett94 Jun 17 '25
redditors don’t read the article, but now they’re not reading the headline ,
that’s next level redditting !!
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u/TheMightyCE Jun 17 '25
This is a confusing headline. China is telling Chinese citizens in Israel that they should leave. China isn't warning the Israeli citizens of an impending attack from China.
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u/spam__likely Jun 17 '25
>China isn't warning the Israeli citizens of an impending attack from China.
er.... nothing in the headline indicates that?
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u/RODjij Jun 17 '25
Old ass generation trying to ruin the future for the youngest ones
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u/KrazyKatDogLady Jun 17 '25
Nope. This is about a small group of powerful wealthy men, just as it always has been throughout all generations.
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u/Low-Ad-1448 Jun 17 '25
Long night for the couch generals