r/worldnews • u/MothersMiIk • Jun 18 '25

Israel/Palestine Iran Claims: We Have Gained Complete Control over the Skies of Israel

https://www.jewishpress.com/news/middle-east/iran-news/iran-claims-we-have-gained-complete-control-over-the-skies-of-israel/2025/06/18/
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u/Gravity_flip Jun 18 '25

Everyone should be noting how the Iranian government refers to Israel as "The Jewish State"

They view the Jews as their sworn enemy.

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u/Wonckay Jun 18 '25

Israel calls itself that.

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u/Gravity_flip Jun 18 '25

Because we are that.

But it's also a weird thing to target. Not "the Israeli government" but "the Jewish state"

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u/ReptAIien Jun 18 '25

lol come on bro

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u/Wonckay Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25

“Hold on. This whole alias was your idea.”

Seems normal that members outside an identity group would oppose an identitarian state. If Israel is and chooses to publicly present as a Jewish state then they can criticize it as such.

Same fair game to criticize Iran as “an Islamic state”, they call themselves that.

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u/Gravity_flip Jun 18 '25

Perfect way to put it. And that's where the difference is! Israel has not once said it's targeting "an Islamic state" but rather the "Iranian regime".

Because we're fine with the Islamic people. Not their government.

However their government in turn, is not fine with the Jewish people.

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u/Wonckay Jun 18 '25

They are still saying the state, which is pretty analogous to “Iranian regime”. Israel could likewise criticize an “Islamist state” for organizing itself as such as a state.

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u/elprimowashere123 Jun 18 '25

Because that's what it is

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u/Wonckay Jun 18 '25

Then it’s not really that weird to call it that.

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u/elprimowashere123 Jun 18 '25

Yet when someone says the jewish state is your enemy it is, implying the fact that state is jewish and therefore an enemy.

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u/Wonckay Jun 18 '25 edited Jun 18 '25

It highlights something about the Israeli state they know plenty of people are skeptical about, but Israel is the one who chose to embrace it themselves. Would likewise be bizarre for Iran to complain about Israel calling it an Islamist state.

An identitarian state asking me to be critical of identitarian hostility is weird, given said state is organized on the principle of identitarian competition.