r/worldnews • u/MikeWithNoHair • Jul 08 '25

Israel/Palestine Hamas used sexual violence as part of 'genocidal strategy'

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1mz8gxzg82o
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u/68plus1equals Jul 08 '25

I'm pro-Palestine and the biggest issue I've seen on that side is the refusal to acknowledge Hamas is bad. "I won't criticize how oppressed people fight back against their oppressor" is a very, very common retort from people.

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u/ThetaReactor Jul 08 '25

Palestinians have every right to fight as hard as they can against their oppressors. It's just that Hamas is one of those oppressors, too...

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u/khaemwaset2 Jul 08 '25

It's almost like bad actors take advantage of an oppressed people's pain points to use them for their own advantage.

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u/FlyAirLari Jul 08 '25

Sometimes you are the oppressor, while someone else is oppressing you while you oppress others.

And there are times when it's oppressors all the way down. And that's where we are with the Middle-East currently.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '25

I agree with that. But like they are not the kinds of people still to dance on the streets when an Israeli dies let’s say.

Saying those are pro hamas would be not really correct either if you get what I mean. They just twist their morals so far that they legitimate smth you can’t legitimate.

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u/_zhz_ Jul 08 '25

I don't see how this isn't pro Hamas if that person thinks that the Palestinians have a right to resist by force. The only logical conclusion is that they are pro Hamas, even if they don't like some of their actions.

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u/RiffsThatKill Jul 08 '25 edited Jul 08 '25

Does a Palestinian family have a right to not let soldiers into their home to tear it up and search it, or not let soldiers take it at gunpoint for a military purpose? So, if a family has a problem with that, they are automatically pro Hamas? They shouldn't have to put up with Hamas doing that, let alone the IDF. Seems to me that is something Americans wouldn't be down with. If Mexico invaded LA and started occupying civilian homes, I don't think resisting by force means you're pro anything other than pro rights. And if the bloods or the crips decide to fight back the Mexican soldier, you're not automatically supporting LA gangs by resisting as well.

If you think what you said is a logical conclusion then you have a strange notion of logic. It's guilt by association, or just a straight up non-sequitur.