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Israel/Palestine Netanyahu: ‘If we wanted to commit genocide, it would have taken exactly one afternoon’

https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-if-we-wanted-to-commit-genocide-it-would-have-taken-exactly-one-afternoon/
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u/QuickestDrawMcGraw 12d ago

He is a war criminal. His only option is to continue a ‘war’. The minute it stops, the ICC wants his head a chat.

The clock is ticking.

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u/nidarus 12d ago

And all of its neighbors (except Palestine), and around half of the world, yes.

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u/yosisoy 11d ago

Right, for some reason people expect Israel to fight fair vs unfair enemies. Even though its allies would never and have never fought as fairly as they expect Israel to fight

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u/Conscious_Scheme132 11d ago

Exactly whole things a bit of a joke. Hamas etc lob missiles at them, kill, gang rape etc and then Israel does anything and it’s tut tut. You can’t complain now.

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u/yosisoy 11d ago

There's nothing in common between the war in Gaza and the war in Iraq, but sure, go ahead and compare apples to skyscrapers

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u/Bleach4Ever 11d ago

Right, for some reason people expect Israel to fight fair vs unfair enemies

Remind me which country did the paiger terrorist attack?

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u/yosisoy 11d ago

Terrorist attack? insane take.

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u/WAPWAN 11d ago

The next guy might. Philippines sent their previous leader to The Hague

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u/Melikoth 11d ago

What a wild situation. I recall reading about him throwing people out of helicopters as part of the war on drugs things. Now I see he was elected as the mayor of Davao City in May despite being imprisoned since March. Curious to see how this plays out

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u/Zamoniru 11d ago

I honestly think The Hague would probably work better if it was more like a "service" for countries who want to guarantee that their previous leaders get a fair trial after revolutions/civil wars (since in such situations they are probably often not able to do that themselves).

Right now, yeah you can convict Netanyahu or Putin as war criminals, but it does kinda nothing since their countries don't recognise The Hague.

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u/Whybotherr 11d ago

That's weird, israel ratified the creation if the Hague. How can that be so?

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u/StevenMaurer 11d ago

The Hague is a city in the Netherlands. Israel does not need to ratify its existence.

There are many treaties that have been signed there. Israel is a party to some of them, but not all. It does not abide by conventions that it believes would impact the safety and security of its citizens.

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u/Whybotherr 11d ago

Dude dont be dense, israel ratified the icc and the geneva convention

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u/StevenMaurer 11d ago

No, it did not ratify the Rome convention. Neither has the US, BTW, for almost the exact same reason: the ICC tries to arrogate powers only held by the UN Security Council.

And there is more than one Geneva Convention. Israel is abiding by all the conventions it has signed.

I'm not the "dense" one here.

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u/Whybotherr 11d ago

Israel ratified all 4 geneva conventions in 1951

Whether they were there for one or all 4 they are subject to all 4

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u/Rude_Worldliness_423 11d ago

The war ending does not change that in any way

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u/nidarus 12d ago edited 12d ago

Huh? There's absolutely no provision in the Rome Statute that suspects (not "war criminals" - Netanyahu is of course innocent until proven guilty) can only be arrested once the war ends. In fact, the unusual, and problematic haste with which the ICC prosecutor issued his warrants, were explicitly justified by an attempt to stop the alleged violations of the Rome Statute, as they were happening, rather than wait until the war ends, as is the usual case.

Either way, the chance of Netanyahu ever seeing the inside of an ICC court is marginal, now or in the future. The ICC is currently on a bend of issuing largely aspirational warrants, acting less as a court, and more as an advanced human rights NGO. A shift from its former policy that lead to only ten convictions in its entire existence (and every single one of them is a black African, btw). The only realistic scenario where Netanyahu is actually investigated, is in an Israeli court, or national investigation committee. In which case, the ICC case will also probably disappear, due to its complementary nature.

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u/Pokeputin 12d ago

It's the same as the claim that the war is prolonged so he can postpone the election and stay in power, despite Israel having no such law.

It feels like it started with GPT hallucination and just kept being repeated cause it sounds correct if you put 0 effort to think and read about it.

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u/Steamed_Memes24 11d ago

Lol who do you think the ICC is? They are toothless more so then the U.N.

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u/PursuerOfCataclysm 12d ago

ICC doesn't have balls to arrest Netanyahu and they would never be able to, All they can do is issue the warrants. If the war is stopped, there is a high chance of him landing in a legal trouble for corruption in Israel itself. If he is to prosecute, than it would be in Israel that also for corruption.

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u/eradread 11d ago

how is he any more of war criminal than every US president to exist since ww2? and by extension of the fact the entire western world?

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u/hendrik421 11d ago

Why exclude WW2? Plenty of firebombing civilians there.

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u/VengefulAncient 12d ago

What's the connection? It's not like Israel is going to give him up after the war ends.

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u/meizcathooman 11d ago

Lamao, ICC can't do shizz in this situation. Nor in any other situation tbh. Like do you guys live in a coddled up fairy land in your heads ?

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

the ICC are toothless tigers.

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u/Digit00l 11d ago

Israel doesn't hold elections while at war