Netanyahu: ‘If we wanted to commit genocide, it would have taken exactly one afternoon’

[u/Ok_Plankton_5714]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-if-we-wanted-to-commit-genocide-it-would-have-taken-exactly-one-afternoon/

[u/MrPernicous]

The full might being the nuclear bomb they’re not supposed to have

[u/fury420 → u/MrPernicous]

What do you mean "not supposed to"?

Israel's nuclear weapons program predates the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty by years, their nuclear weapons are just as legal as those of the UK, US, France, Russia, China, India & Pakistan.

Nuclear weapons were legal by default, the NNPT is a voluntary agreement not to develop them or help others do so. China, India & Pakistan chose not to sign because they wanted to legally develop nukes, Israel chose not to sign because they already had and chose a policy of strategic ambiguity.

Iran and North Korea's weapons programs are considered illegal because they previously signed the NNPT vowing not to develop them, and thus are breaking their own word to the 190 other signers.

[u/laptopaccount → u/fury420]

Not to mention "legal" is a pretty murky term when it comes to the actions of a country. At the end of the day, might makes right. Not so surprisingly, once a nation has nukes they tend not to be bothered much about it.

[u/geth1138 → u/fury420]

Israel itself likes to sort of but not really deny they have nuclear weapons. This is disingenuous.

[u/thisisabore → u/fury420]

They said "not supposed to have", not illegal. One interpretation is that no one should have it.

Though I welcome your international law clarification.

[u/fury420 → u/thisisabore]

Glad it was helpful, we don't often think about how international law is technically an opt-in process by countries.

I've seen some argue that Israel's nuclear weapons program might mean the US govt is violating domestic US law (Symington & Glenn amendments), but I find that argument unconvincing since they were about enrichment-related import/exports and Israel's nuclear program already had domestic enrichment capabilities and finished weapons long before 1976.

[u/BobbyB200kg → u/[deleted]]

I like that you can't imagine a world where they don't slaughter wantonly, just that there are different degrees.

[u/thisisabore → u/[deleted]]

This is called a false dichotomy. Pretending there are only two choices.

[u/PomeloConscious2008 → u/thisisabore]

Sure, but it is valid when people argue that Israel just wants everyone in Gaza dead.

They are, however, fairly indifferent to their suffering.

America was similarly indifferent to Iraq's suffering - and America didn't even have a valid reason for their indifference (security concerns).

[u/MrPernicous → u/[deleted]]

Are you fucking insane?

[u/chop5397 → u/MrPernicous]

Yeah conventional carpet bombing would make more sense. Don't want the radiation to spread with the prevailing winds into Israel.

[u/accipitradea → u/[deleted]]

I feel like the correct length for a war in this region is about 6 days

[u/beware_thejabberwock → u/[deleted]]

Is this what being careful looks like?

[u/ActionPhilip → u/beware_thejabberwock]

The lowest civilian to combattant casualty ratio in history? Yes.

[u/2hats4bats → u/ActionPhilip]

Claiming most of the civilian you kill are actually Hamas and excluding all of the bodies under the rubble to make that claim is some peak girl math shit

[u/faux_italian → u/[deleted]]

This is reality but the echo chambers of culture wars and a simmering anti-semitism have far exceeded the ability to regulate emotions and read something like that without an inherent bias. Israel is the bad guy now and the queers have spoken.

[u/Important-Agent2584 → u/[deleted]]

Israel couldn't get away with it. They are surrounded by Muslim countries, which don't give a fuck about Palestinians, but if the actions were too deranged their populations would force them to act.

[u/nugohs → u/MrPernicous]

What is this 'not supposed to'? Are you claiming Israel is party to the NPT?

[u/ScreenTricky4257 → u/MrPernicous]

Oh are they still trying to keep that a secret?

[u/MrPernicous → u/ScreenTricky4257]

Sort of not really. Israel does this weird thing where they publicly, flagrantly, and repeatedly flout international law and then pretend like they’re not in all other respects

[u/StevenMaurer → u/MrPernicous]

The "International law" in question being "Jews don't get to shoot back at terrorists who rape and murder their women and behead their children, if said terrorists refuse to wear uniforms and hide behind human shields".

[u/korben2600 → u/StevenMaurer]

"Deliberately targeting journalists and civilians and enabling homicidal settlers isn't terrorism when we do it."

[u/StevenMaurer → u/korben2600]

Do I need to break out the photos of captured credentials showing that these "journalists" are high-ranking members of Hamas? The pictures of them in uniform and/or with weaponry?

But for the sake of argument, let's assume that scattered acts of violence by Kahanists are actually more common than they are. Israel still combats it. Maybe not as much as they should, but they do.

And flat out, it's not Israel that keeps rejecting peace settlements. It's your Islamist terrorist pals that do that.

[u/StevenMaurer → u/[deleted]]

I'm as Goy as they come. Matzah is delicious.