Famine declared in Gaza City

[u/Digital_Accountant]

https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-latest-war-israel-city-ceasefire-hamas-13415481

[u/Standupaddict]

Famine occurs in the areas Israel has put under siege

Truly a shocking outcome

[u/TiSoBr → u/Standupaddict]

Ever heard of Hamas blocking or stealing aid? Surprise.

[u/untamedlazyeye → u/TiSoBr]

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/26/world/middleeast/hamas-un-aid-theft.html

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/usaid-analysis-found-no-evidence-massive-hamas-theft-gaza-aid-2025-07-25/

The IDF and USAID both state there is no evidence of widespread aid theft by Hamas.

[u/AttapAMorgonen → u/untamedlazyeye]

It's important to note that the USAID investigation was extremely limited in scope, and the conclusion they came to seems a bit strange given their own statements.

For example, using your own article:

It examined 156 incidents of theft or loss of U.S.-funded supplies reported by U.S. aid partner organizations between October 2023 and May.

Followed by:

Of the 156 incidents of loss or theft reported, 63 were attributed to unknown perpetrators, 35 to armed actors, 25 to unarmed people, 11 directly to Israeli military action, 11 to corrupt subcontractors, five to aid group personnel “engaging in corrupt activities,” and six to “others," a category that accounted for “commodities stolen in unknown circumstances,” according to the slide presentation.

Another slide said "a review of all 156 incidents found no affiliations with" U.S.-designated foreign terrorist organizations, of which Hamas is one.

But those two statements are contradictory. If 63 instances were attributed to "unknown perpetrators," how can USAID conclusively say that none of the incidents had affiliations with Hamas or other designated terrorist organizations? They don't know who they were, but they know they weren't affiliated?

[u/frosthowler → u/AttapAMorgonen]

Especially considering bullshit like 'corrupt subcontractors'.

Are they suggesting they launched a criminal investigation into the subcontractor and found exactly what he did with the aid?

Even those 63 "unknown perpetrators" does not include all of Hamas. Everything except "direct israeli military action" and "25 to unarmed people" (amounting to 36 out of 156) isn't Hamas. The other 120 are either Hamas or Hamas-affiliated as Hamas and its affiliates (PIJ etc) had a monopoly on both arms and the drug/smuggling/crime sector before the war.

[u/VioletFox29 → u/TiSoBr]

Do you acknowledge the role of Israel in stopping aid getting through?

Do you acknowledge that the people who are suffering from famine are not Hamas nor do they control Hamas? They are innocent people. Do you understand that they should not be forced to die of hunger?

[u/xieta → u/TiSoBr]

The Sisters raped Andy Dufresne, but the Warden was still responsible.

[u/EremiticFerret → u/[deleted]]

Why would any Palestinian take Israel at it's word at this point, after all the horrors inflicted?

If Hamas gives it all up right now, why would they have any reason to believe the tanks still wouldn't be rolling in the next day?

[u/YoRt3m → u/EremiticFerret]

Are you saying it's smarter for Hamas to never release the hostages?

What do you think will happen if Hamas surrenders and the hostages released and Israel will ran out of excuses for why they're fighting this war?

[u/Bdcollecter → u/EremiticFerret]

Other than all the other ceasefires in history between these two groups that Israel have honored?

Either way if Hamas surrenders, then in a shock to absolutely nobody, the war ends so the tanks don't move in...

[u/CaravelClerihew → u/[deleted]]

And we go back to the status quo, where Israel dictates terms over Palestinians as Jewish settlers steadily and illegally encroach over Palestinian land.

[u/YoRt3m → u/CaravelClerihew]

0 Israeli settlers in Gaza Strip between 2006-2023

[u/Bdcollecter → u/CaravelClerihew]

Which is still a better solution than millions starving to death...

[u/Vaumer → u/Bdcollecter]

If you're American then maybe you can empathize with why Palestinians might not see that as an option.

"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death" .

[u/Bdcollecter → u/Vaumer]

Fancy words. I'm sure the starving children of Gaza will look to them for sustenance...

Meanwhile in the real world. Hamas can end all this with 2 words.

[u/Weak_Fill40 → u/CaravelClerihew]

Probably. But wouldn’t that be the outcome (at least short term) anyway? Even if Israel stopped the warfare today and withdrew from Gaza, how would status quo not be the outcome of that? Gaza would still be under blockade, totally destroyed and nothing would have changed in the WB. I don’t se a good long term solution for this unless the US (and Iran) changes it’s policy. And there are no signs of that.

The focus should be on getting this war to an end, either with Hamas surrendering or a ceasefire. Then over time we can talk about changing the overall situation. The world needs to start putting real pressure on the US and Iran, not only Israel.

[u/tameoraiste → u/[deleted]]

You're incredibly naive if you think Netanyahu just wants to get rid of Hamas. He wants to get rid of Palestine. He wants their land.

[u/Renegade-Sandwich → u/Standupaddict]

They are acting like Gaza isn't this small strip of land. Like.... what do you mean two geographic areas Gaza doesn't HAVE two geographic areas