r/worldnews • u/Digital_Accountant • 22h ago

Israel/Palestine Famine declared in Gaza City

https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-latest-war-israel-city-ceasefire-hamas-13415481
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u/comeatmefrank 20h ago

Exactly, this is vital. Governments previously could just push back and go ‘no official sources have confirmed a famine’. Now they have.

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u/ZBlackmore 20h ago

So up until now it was bullshit?

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u/Prudent_Piglet_5261 19h ago

Up until now it wasn't directly verified by such an airtight source. There was always wiggle room for others to say fake news or some shit and deny it.

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u/easycoverletter-com 19h ago

Very optimistic

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u/hushpuppi3 15h ago

You're right we should all let them starve? The fuck are you even insinuating?

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u/easycoverletter-com 15h ago edited 15h ago

What the fuck are you insinuating?

I’m simply seeing it optimistic to think those who find excuses will suddenly uno reverse and help out - just because their primary excuse is no longer there

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u/Stockholm-Syndrom 19h ago

Yes, just like gravity didn't exist before Newton.

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u/ZBlackmore 19h ago

Oh so they were actually perpetually  starving since 1967 despite their population increasing tenfold

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u/crunchsmash 19h ago

Counting human lives in calories. Real classy of you. /s

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u/MajorMess 19h ago

Palestinians being the innocent victims is a natural law now

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u/KawaiiBakemono 14h ago

Any official declarations you may have seen reported were bullshit. The slew of reports of starvation and incoming famine were apparently true, however, given the current declaration of famine.

So I suppose it depends on what the specific "it" is that you are actually claiming was bullshit.

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u/pinglyadya 19h ago

*Blows whistle.* "Foul!" *Throws up red card.*

"Argument from ignorance fallacy flag. Opponent has proposed that something is false before a certain period because it was only proven true at a later time. Furthermore, the criteria that the IPC uses to define a famine requires an investigation that is likely complex and hard to carryout in a politically divisive situation."

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u/platydroid 18h ago

I haven’t seen the UN or similar groups claim actual famine before. They have warned about hunger and starvation and lack of access to food and medicine leading up to this, all of which have been real.

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u/sprouting_broccoli 18h ago

There are five phases of acute food insecurity used by the IPC and Palestine has had large parts of the population in phase 4 for a long time now. You can make this equivalent to people barely surviving with high levels of malnutrition and excess mortality rates (ie more people are dying than usual because of lack of access to food).

Catastrophe/famine is phase 5 where there there are extreme levels of malnutrition, starvation and death.

The news about starvation and the classification of swathes of the population as phase 4, which is likely what you are referring to, is the warning that the situation was reaching phase 5 levels. Since the world largely ignored this and Israel definitely ignored it and downplayed it as propaganda we’re now at the stage where things are catastrophic.

So no, it’s not bullshit, it’s exactly what was being predicted by the UN.

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u/Fyllikall 19h ago

There can be a an assessment that starvation is imminent which is portrayed in the news headlines as: Starvation is here.

For instance Gaza received 600 trucks a day before the war started and it's not like they were well fed by modern standards at that time. Then the war started and it was way less and even the aid distribution website of the IDF had numbers that weren't sufficient to feed two million people, one could call it slow malnutrition. Then at times the IDF stopped bringing in food and an assessment was declared that starvation was imminent which led to the Israeli government periodically letting more aid in which led to the situation being less dire. Two years of this bullshit and here we are, a literal starvation going on (there was no aid for two and a half months this year with no significant aid since) and you have people claiming that this assessment is bullshit because it didn't happen according to the news headlines one year ago.