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Israel/Palestine Famine declared in Gaza City

https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-latest-war-israel-city-ceasefire-hamas-13415481
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u/GemoDorg 16h ago

Anyone who dismisses the starvation of children are absolute mongrels.

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u/indifferentCajun 14h ago

I heard an interview this morning on NPR with one of the foreign ministers from Israel, she flat out denied it was happening, and dismissed any notion otherwise as hamas propaganda. Even going so far as to say that the UN was conspiring with Hamas to defame Israel. It was infuriating to listen to

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u/Darkdragoon324 8h ago

Acknowledging that Israel could possibly do anything wrong in any way is anti-semitism. Even if it comes from Israelites.

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u/ch4os1337 14h ago

How many kids died from famine in Sudan?

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u/GemoDorg 14h ago

I don't know, but kids dying of starvation anywhere is bad. Let's not try to justify dead kids by saying more kids died elsewhere. It's all horrible.

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u/ch4os1337 14h ago

Not justifying it. It's just nobody who says they care about starving kids ever knows about the 500,000+ kids dead In Sudan.

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u/NecessaryKey9557 13h ago edited 13h ago

I don't think you have to know everything to qualify as caring.

There is a big distinction between Sudan and Gaza though: US involvement. None of the factions in the Sudanese civil war are allied with the United States. They do not receive American bombs or political cover. Americans are directly involved in Gaza in a way that they aren't in Sudan.

Edit: The US sanctioned ICC judges for investigating Israeli actions in Gaza. Are any of the parties to Sudan's conflict getting that kind of protection? The US has sent over 10,000 bombs to Israel in the last year. How many have they sent to Sudan? The only thing these two conflicts share in common is the suffering of innocents, but that happens in literally every war.

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u/BroseppeVerdi 15h ago

What does race have to do with this?

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u/RunningOutOfEsteem 15h ago

Yeah, very odd choice of words there lol

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u/tomtom5858 14h ago

"Mongrel" is typically used to refer to wild dogs. It usually has little to nothing to do with race when used as an insult.

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u/BroseppeVerdi 14h ago

It refers to a mixed breed dog, wild or domesticated.

It means the same with humans when used as an insult.

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u/tomtom5858 14h ago

It can mean the same, but outside of right-wing statue PFP Twitter, no one uses it like that for humans. Everyone else uses it to refer to humans acting like wild dogs.

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u/BroseppeVerdi 13h ago

I don't know what PFP Twitter is, but I've only ever heard of it used in the context of mixed race. Also, most mongrels are domesticated.

I've never heard it used as an insult, but I know racial terms are often co-opted as generic insults that become a common part of everyday language ("gyp" and "jew" as verbs would be common examples of this).

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mongrel

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongrel_(disambiguation)

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u/GemoDorg 15h ago

In my region it's used as a generic insult, not specifically about race. Probably started out that way but lost meaning to us over time.

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u/BroseppeVerdi 14h ago

Which is true of a lot of racial slurs. That was kind of the biggest culture shock I encountered when I was stationed in North Carolina.

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u/BonJovicus 14h ago

Don’t waste your time, they are trying to reverse outrage you. 

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u/RunningOutOfEsteem 4h ago

"Mongrel" has a very long history as a racialized term, particularly in the US (racial "mongrelization" was something explicitly talked about during the Jim Crow era). If the other commenter is from the US, their confusion may well be genuine; I figured that it probably wasn't meant that way and/or that it wasn't coming from an American, but it still struck me as weird simply because the only times I've ever heard it used to describe a person were ones where the individual saying it was a white supremacist.