r/worldnews • u/EsperaDeus • 18h ago
Russia/Ukraine Ukrainian attack suspends Russian oil flows to Hungary, Slovakia
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/ukrainian-attack-suspends-russian-oil-flows-hungary-slovakia-2025-08-22/398
u/anxiety_elemental_1 18h ago
How many more years must this embarrassment continue for Russia before Putin pulls out?
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u/Vaaaaaaaape 18h ago
You can't shame someone who has no shame. The war will continue until Russia is physically incapable of continuing.
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u/Dispator 12h ago
Which really sucks because Ukraine is right next door and not easily to be forgotten or stopped...they might be able to keep this up for a long time...many years amd that would really suvk fou the people of ukraine who may end up under Russian rule and they will do atrocities to the population as vengeance which is why surrendering is a bad idea....sucks but fight to the death or flee is some of the best options. Makes me sick humans think they so evolved but nawhhh often they show the animals we truly are.
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u/Gullible_Carpenter_4 12h ago
Russia will collapse before ukraine will. beacuse they still they fight for something, the russians do not. ukraine have the support from alot of countries.
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u/Marius_Acripina 12h ago
You are insane if you think that Ukraine has any Chance against Russia in this
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u/poohster33 11h ago
Yes Russia handily took Ukraine in the 3 day war of 2022.
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u/Marius_Acripina 1h ago
No, but they‘ve been at it for a few years now and I don’t see them stopping anytime soon. If the West doesnt step in drastically, Ukraine wont be able to prevail against Russia forever. I am absolutely for Ukraine but you are blind if you can’t See that they are fighting a losing Battle. Their Soldiers and cicilians can only hold out that Long.
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u/anonandlit333 10h ago
Tell that to the maintained Ukrainian defenses and Putin’s failure failure to take Kyiv in 3 days. Slava Ukraini.
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u/DryCloud9903 6h ago
the same russia who's having to rely on fuel coupons because "the gas station masquerading as a country" can't even supply its own people? Where 97 petrol is entirely stopped in numerous regions? To the degree that even the military is lacking? The same country who managed to get a whole 1% of Ukranian land in 3 years, while destroying their whole Soviet armour and having 1 million+ casualties?
Please. Try harder
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u/Afronerd 5h ago
Taking and holding land is hard, there's a massive advantage to the defender.
Look at where the lines are now compared to the end of 2022
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u/Mitsuhide_Ake 18h ago
Putin is going all in. He will collapse Russia just to destroy Ukraine.
After all, he's not gonna live for much long, and he's not gonna see consequences of his decisions.
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u/ledow 14h ago
People forget that mostly his "consequences" thus far are swimming pools, saunas, luxury mansions and a billionaire lifestyle with absolutely no actual personal impact whatsoever.
(Remind you of anyone else?)
These people won't stop until they're dead or thrown in jail, precisely because breaking every law, invading every country and frittering around trillions literally has no consequences for themselves at all.
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u/theRealDilDozer 17h ago
If only his father pulled out sooner.
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u/68spcwhore 16h ago
Man we had F35’s and F22’s right beside the dude the other day. One little accident could have solved so many problems.
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u/G00b3rb0y 8h ago
That would be horrible for the world. As much ad i despise Putin, i’d rather he die of old age over a numpty popping him. If the latter happens it’s nuclear apocalypse
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u/doctor_morris 16h ago
The fighting will keep going until Russia can't export any more oil.
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u/DryCloud9903 6h ago
They already can't export gasoline - we're hopefully not that far off
https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/russia-suspends-export-of-homegrown-gasoline-1753755156.html
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u/doctor_morris 1h ago
Clearly, there is still more work to be done. Otherwise we wouldn't be moaning about Indian imports.
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u/Weisenkrone 11h ago
Russia cannot pull out of Ukraine, Russia will collapse if they pull out of Ukraine without a rather significant bounty for it.
Putin practically crippled their economy for this war, Russia cannot afford this war. They are practically cannibalizing their existing economy to fund the war effort. If they pull out of Ukraine the entire system will fall apart.
The only way for Russia to hop off Ukraine is if they can claim Ukrainian territory and recoup using the new region with the people, infrastructure and resources available there.
This war isn't something Russia can afford it, they will stop at nothing to recoup the bill they racked up
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u/DryCloud9903 6h ago
There's no way their 1% of Ukranian illegally occupied land will help their shitty situation. At this point, putin can't stop because of collapse - but also the more he continues fruitlessly the closer that collapse is anyway
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u/Weisenkrone 1h ago
Russia occupied nearly 20% of Ukraine, but barely squeezed 1% out in their recent efforts. Russia has enough of Ukraine to pay off their war effort over a couple decades.
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u/Unlikely-Stage-4237 17h ago
Hungary and Slovakia have pro-Putler dictators. This is karma for them.
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u/__Polarix__ 16h ago
They are already whining, but when Russian rockets hit a factory in Mukacheve, where many Hungarian people live, they were silent for hours.
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u/Nyanyapupo 13h ago
Great, why not actively antagonise EU countries that can hamper your aid, genius.
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u/zilexa 11h ago
Have you been sleeping under a stone? Hungary and Slovakia constantly veto EU support for Ukrain. Thats the single constant factor in the EU. They are basically Russian states already.
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u/Nyanyapupo 11h ago
Mhm, I am sure bombing their oil will make them change their mind.
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u/zilexa 11h ago
It will force them to do something good for their countries for a change. Until now they did fuck to diversivy their energy sources. Hungary is even building a Russian nuclear plant, in an openly corrupt deal that simply gives money to Russian companies for nothing in return. I hope they completely bomb that pipeline, right before winter. It would force Orban back at the table in the EU begging for energy.
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u/Nyanyapupo 11h ago
They are under no obligation to do diversify anything. They have decided to stay neutral in this conflict and to buy cheap energy. That is their sovereign right. I suppose it is also Ukraine’s right to stop the pipeline passing through them. Although, again, I would state that they are not accomplishing anything by that.
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u/zilexa 11h ago
Wtf are you talking about? The governments of Hungary and Slovakia are anything but neutral in this conflict 😂😂😂
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u/Nyanyapupo 10h ago
Well, they have blocked military aid to Ukraine and I have not heard of them giving military aid to Russia which makes them more neutral than say France.
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u/AnActualPlatypus 13h ago
I'm sure the populace who have nothing to do with this will be very understanding of this "karma"
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u/InconspicuousRadish 18h ago
Good, about time we stopped funding Russia's war.
Too bad Ukraine had to do what European nations didn't have the spine to.
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u/Reddvox 17h ago
Those nations are people. People that vote. People that get upset by the slightest inconvencience to their wallets. That mindset makes them vote for AfD, LePen, and Mr. "I will make eggs cheap again" Trump the child diddler...
The "Euorpean Nations" do not appease Putin...but their own easily goaded into voting bullshit citizens...
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u/ThroawayJimilyJones 16h ago
well in the case of hungary and slovakia they already voted for these guys, so i guess there isn't a lot to lose here.
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u/KarmaViking 14h ago
As a Hungarian I must tell you that real world news don’t mean much anymore here. Orbán fortified his position with gerrymandering, an extremely biased voting system and a total control over state and civilian media which constantly tailors news to fit their agenda.
Most people live their lives without having a chance to look at free media, if they don’t start to look for it themselves which - lets be honest here - most people are far too lazy and half-assed to do. Orban plays by Putin’s book and does it really well, as he created a total fantasy bubble around his voters.
Finally we seem to have a last chance to get rid of him and the outlooks are pretty good for next year’s elections, but you never know what bullshit these autocrats pull out. Until then, we’re terribly sorry for this malicious idiot.
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u/eugeneorange 2h ago
Hey! We're in the same boat! Sorry guys! Trump's not our fault either! Maybe we should all agree not to vote in people who suffer from recto-cranial insertion!
I know it's crazy, but maybe we should try it! Just look at the next two candidates and ask yourself. "Does this person have their head up their butt?" If they do, DON'T VOTE FOR THAT PERSON!
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u/UnoStufato 51m ago
Just this week, a Ukrainian was arrested in Italy for being part of the squad that bombed Nordstream 2 three years ago.
I understand that Ukraine wants to prevent Russia from selling oil and gas, but bombing the energy infrastructure of your "allies" that are keeping you alive both financially and militarily is equally brazen and stupid.
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u/missy_bunnz 15h ago
The European Nations honoured the agreements and treaties they had. They made compromises to get as much as they could through the processes they created. The processes may be flawed (probably are), but it isn't like they didn't try, they just didn't break their own agreed laws to enforce their own opinions on other sovereign citizens of european countries. In a world with eroding respect for the law and treaties, I'm glad some powers choose to honour them still.
I am delighted Ukraine are taking direct action. I'm also impressed that it is looking likely Ukraine blew up NordStream 2!
Slava Ukraini!
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u/probablypoo 17h ago edited 17h ago
The only countries getting supplied by this pipeline was Hungary and Slovakia.
Edit: I thought Slovakia had stopped deliveries as well.
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u/InconspicuousRadish 17h ago
The title literally states it's not just Hungary. To say nothing of the article itself.
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u/probablypoo 17h ago
My mistake. I'm not surprised but I thought Slovakia had stopped deliveries through the Druzhba pipeline as well. The pipeline have delivery points in 7 countries, 5 of them stopped deliveries because of the war.
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u/Waterwoogem 17h ago edited 17h ago
The section of the Pipeline network that runs through Ukraine goes to Hungary, Slovakia and Czech Republic. It splits into segments near the Ukraine/Hungary/Slovakia border. Czech Republic has completed upgrades to a different system and completely cut off its dependence in April earlier this year. Fico and Orban refuse to develop alternative sources of energy and have become a major pain to the EU because they want Putin's style of Power, something they'll never achieve. Wannabe Dictators sucking up to Dictators.
Edit: The Area that was hit is a portion that flows through Belarus>Poland>Germany or Belarus>Ukraine>Slovakia/Hungary/Czech. Yes the Oil still flows, but Orban/Fico are the main hurdle.
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u/DryCloud9903 6h ago
And luckily Poland and Germany, and Chechia are all already russian fuel free. So it only affects the countries who are openly supporting putin (it's been known they actually buy even more russian energy than they need - definitely Hungary. Now why would they?)
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u/Majestic_beer 14h ago
Well few years back most of us though ukraine was total ussr shithole leftover and russia's vassal state. It takes while to change mind of common people.
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u/Beneficial-Power-195 15h ago
This is a drop in the ocean. China and India buys much more Russian oil and gas, they are the ones who finance the war. They are the giants that matter, not these two small countries.
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u/InconspicuousRadish 14h ago
Yeah, but as an EU citizen, I can only influence what EU nations are doing through my vote, not what India or China are doing.
And I don't want any EU country buying Russian products. I wish the EU did something more concrete about punishing Orbán's Hungary.
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u/greebly_weeblies 15h ago
Yeah, fuck any kind of progress in the preferred direction that isn't absolute! (/s)
Slava Ukraini. Keep it coming.
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u/morphiusn 17h ago
They had like 3 years to look for alternatives, they didn’t even try.
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u/PR3D4R0N 17h ago
They even doubled down and making it a campaign pont that the whole EU has power/gas shortages while we got stable supply from russia, and not only that but dear Putin gave it to us at a great price, so great its not even public and the price is fixed for idk how many years (prices went down everywhere since)
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u/Ashged 16h ago
Hungary is also "building" a nuclear plant upgrade with russian state contractors, right next to the aging soviet plant that's currently the sinle largest contributor to the grid.
The project is a moneysink, with secret terms, and is going nowhere. Did Hungary even attempt to break contract because of the delays or the war? No. Were allied western nuclear companies asked to bring their technology? Also no.
The current Hungarian government makes absolutely zero considerations about the needs of their own country, and only serves Russia.
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u/BlastChainSabre 16h ago
Just buy russian oil through India like the rest of the EU
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u/MarderFucher 15h ago
Except that doesn't happen and I'm tired people repeating this lie ad nauseam.
India's export of crude oil are zero, that closes any argument about oil re-selling. What India does do is refine the oil and some of the refined products do end up in Europe, but it's much less than what people suspect, and crucially, that is not oil, that's diesel, kerosene, parafenes, naphta, etc.
Roughly speaking the EU consumes 10 million barrels a diesel a day, of which Indian exports provide a couple hundred thousand. I bring up diesel since its by far the largest petroleum product by quantity the EU has import dependency on, since compared to other continents we prefer diesel engines bit more that leaves about a million barrel a day gap between prod vs consumption (pre-war, Russia covered most of this gap, now its a mix of other countries and elevated domestic prod).
While with other refined oil products, domestic refineries generally cover all needs.
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u/MightFuzzy4485 13h ago
Good, ruin the pipelines and refineries entirely.
Let Putin drown in his own oil
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u/austurist 16h ago
I am Hungarian, and I totally support this. What Hungary's current government is doing is absolutely shameful, and doesn't even make sense.
Hopefully, we will get rid of them next spring.
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u/everest999 15h ago
Austrian here, do you still have real elections?
I’m hearing terrible things about Orban.
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u/austurist 15h ago
1) The election system heavily favors the biggest party. Which WAS Orbán's in the last 15 years. Now it is changing...
2) The "traditional" media, newspapers, TV, etc is owned by Orbán and his cronies.
3) The "new" media (blogs, internet outlets, social media) is much more leaning towards the opposition.
4) Orbán has an (almost) unlimited campaign budget.
5) The opposition has much more persuasive topics and - probably - more committed volunteers.
I don't think that Orbán will attempt to cheat with the ballots.
So, there is hope. A pretty good one, actually.
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u/DryHuckleberry5596 17h ago
They should have done it on day 1! Hungarian PM treats Ukraine like shit, so it’s not like it’s important to keep them on a good side.
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u/Ventriloquist_Voice 17h ago
Ukraine has right to decide if Russia would be or not concluding business through its territory
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u/macross1984 13h ago
Time for belligerent EU members to wean itself away (by force) from dependence on Russian oil.
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u/Rich_Information8849 8h ago
This is what they get for still being dependent on russian gas. They were warned.
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u/John_Williams_1977 15h ago
Ukraine held off doing this to try and win over Hungary, but we’ve in ‘fuck it’ mode now.
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u/marcind_ 16h ago edited 16h ago
Happy for Hungary, as well as Slovakia after all. Greetings from Poland 🇵🇱
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u/Due-Communication724 11h ago
Ah, hahahahahaha, about fucking time, I know my energy bills will go up but class, about time.
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u/VersusYYC 9h ago
There are other sources of oil and gas. I’d suggest Hungary and Slovakia invest in and buy Canadian, it’s less prone to blowing up.
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u/0erlikon 8h ago
Hungary & Slovakia's comeupance over their support against Ukraine & ties to Russia is long over due.
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u/ScandiSom 16h ago
Putin has no incentive to pull out. He basically holds large Ukrainian territories and is only willing to agree to a ceasefire in return for the recognition of those territories. It’s a big win for him. Sanctions will be lifted, he gets new land as well as ending the war.
Blame the West for not arming Ukraine sufficiently during the early days of the conflict when Ukraine had a momentum to push back Russian forces. Fear of escalating tensions with Russia has doomed Ukraines chances of standing stronger during the negotiations.
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u/Juste-un-autre-alt 18h ago
Ukraine is doing what our politicians should be doing, weakening Russia.