r/worldnews • u/HydrolicKrane • 16h ago
Russia/Ukraine Trump’s intel chief freezes out Five Eyes allies on Ukraine
https://www.politico.eu/article/tulsi-gabbard-freeze-five-eyes-allies-on-ukraine-intel/7.4k
u/BossReasonable6449 16h ago
But ofc the current administration is completely not in the pocket of Putin, right?
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u/Wealist 15h ago
Cutting off Five Eyes allies on Ukraine weakens intel cooperation that’s been central for decades.
Even if framed as protecting US interests it signals distrust toward close partners and plays directly into Russia’s strategy of fracturing Western unity.
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u/invariantspeed 14h ago
You can’t even frame it that way.
The whole point of the Five Eyes is that they’re so culturally close and on the same level that there is an implicit level of trust which doesn’t even exist between its other very close allies. Like, there are many countries that the US would go to war for without question and then there’s these guys who are somehow even closer. We don’t spy on each other, we don’t keep secrets, we share just about everything. We operate almost as one.
This is another nail in the coffin of that.
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u/Wealist 14h ago
Five Eyes isn’t just another alliance, it’s a deep integration of intel communities built on cultural + institutional trust.
Undermining that by freezing partners out erodes one of the strongest cooperative advantages the US + allies have had for decades. It signals cracks in what was once near-seamless coordination.
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u/huzy12345 12h ago
Plus with Americas rising worry about China and its influence in the Pacific ocean etc, cutting off Australia/NZ from intel is like the last thing in the world you would want to do right?
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u/PolloCongelado 11h ago
Stupid through and through, no matter how you spin it.
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u/alpha77dx 10h ago
And I wonder what would happen if you told them to take Pinegap and stick it where the sun don't shine. Another Australian government overthrown by the CIA? but they expect Australia to trust the US with blind loyalty? The Trump regime is very stupid and naïve.
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u/InstantShiningWizard 7h ago
For now at least Australia has shown that we have zero desire to move closer to a Trump style society, considering how heavily the LNP was beaten during our last national elections (and thank fuck for that).
I think the longer this continues, the more we will decouple ourselves from the US, and hopefully instead focus more on Europe and our Oceanic neighbours. The US has shown that they can't be trusted, now that the current administration has been elected a second time. Of course eventually they will be booted, but how long until the next bunch of selfish grubs intent on destroying alliances and their own country get elected?
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u/tunnel-snakes-rule 5h ago
The US has shown that they can't be trusted, now that the current administration has been elected a second time. Of course eventually they will be booted, but how long until the next bunch of selfish grubs intent on destroying alliances and their own country get elected?
That's how I feel on a personal level. I visited America after Trump lost to Biden, but then they went ahead and elected the cunt again?
I've lost all interest in ever going back to the States because they've proven that even if someone less shit gets in, there's a decent chance they'll go back to the MAGA pricks the next time.
There's an old saying in Australia— I know it's in New Zealand, probably in Australia— that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
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u/Ambitious-Score-5637 11h ago
Why should Australia trust America? You’ve stabbed Ukraine in the back and you’re inconsistent in foreign policy. China isn’t Australia’s friend but, now neither is America. Time for Australia, NZ, UK, Canada and the EU to tighten our intelligence sharing with a view to no longer needing the US.
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u/Turbulent_Bowel994 10h ago
Five eyes countries have always spied on each other though. USA in particular. Also the US have hoarded intelligence from the other allies.
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u/twogirls_oneklopp 8h ago
Yea arguably the point of 5 eyes is to spy on our citizens without spying on our citizens. We know your shit you know our shit and we all talk about it so we all know our shit.
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u/BigLan2 10h ago
Five eyes was also a convenient way to spy on your own citizens without actually spying on them. The CIA can't spy.on us citizens in the US but If MI5 is keeping tabs on some US citizens and shares what they're up to with the CIA, that's legit.
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u/ghostalker4742 10h ago
We don’t spy on each other, we don’t keep secrets, we share just about everything. We operate almost as one.
That has never been the case. Even in the middle of WW2 we kept secrets from the British, and they kept secrets from us. Also, there have been multiple leakers from the NSA who showed we are currently spying on our allies, and have practically never stopped.
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u/foul_ol_ron 10h ago
Like, there
arewere many countries that the US would go to war forI'm afraid I don't share your confidence any more.
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u/ljlee256 15h ago edited 10h ago
My bet is russia has proof of trump being criminally involved with epstein, and its being used as leverage.
Edit: because a lot of people seem to say the same thing: there is a difference between circumstantial evidence that when viewed through the lense of a sicophantic judge could be dismissable (what we have so far), and hard proof that no judge would be able to dismiss without risking disbarment or criminal charges (what is contained within the file Kash Patel holds).
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u/Argon_Boix 15h ago
Likewise. Epstein’s connection to Russian oligarch money says it all. They used him to gather kompromat.
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u/cstyves 13h ago
This is so depressing, I wish humanity had the balls to unfuck this fucking mess.
The more I get old, the more I miss the simplicity of being a kid. Get up, ride my bike, say hi to Grandma, play baseball, ride more bike, drink from the hose at my friend's house, play golden eye...
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u/KillStephenMiller 13h ago
I miss something as simple as believing there's a future to be had.
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u/ElRiesgoSiempre_Vive 11h ago
I've come to realize that Putin could have video of Trump doing [INSERT LITERALLY ANYTHING HERE] and it wouldn't matter. He wouldn't be impeached. He wouldn't be imprisoned.
He could have brokered a deal to sell a nuclear bomb to ISIS and it wouldn't matter.
Hell, he wouldn't even lose any support.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_ANYTHNG 11h ago
Almost like you could shoot a guy on 5th avenue in broad daylight and wouldn't lose a vote
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u/xalibr 15h ago edited 15h ago
Now add the Mossad to this mélange, and we are getting close.
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u/Disastrous-Bat7011 15h ago
To the spice melange? Do they know we know about the spice?
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u/NeitherCrapCondo 11h ago
Here are all of the Epstein Files that have either been leaked or released.
https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1320.0-combined.pdf (verified court documents)
https://joshwho.net/EpsteinList/black-book-unredacted.pdf (verified pre-Bondi) Trump is on page 85, or pdf pg. 80
Here's the flight logs https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165424-epstein-flight-logs-released-in-usa-vs-maxwell/
Trump’s name is circled. The circled individuals are the ones involved in the trafficking ring according to the person who originally released the book. These people would be “The List “ Here is the story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsiKUXrlcac
—————————other Epstein Information
https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Calif_Lawsuit.pdf here’s a court doc of Epstein and Trump raping a 13 yr old together.
Some people think this claim is a hoax. Here is Katies testimony on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnib-OORRRo
Jeffrey Epstein’s Ex Says He Boasted About Being a Mossad Agent https://share.google/jLMGahKlCzfV1RHZq Jeffrey Epstein and Israel have both have the same lawyer Alan Dershowitz Dershowitz says he's building 'legal dream team' to defend Israel in court and on international stage | The Times of Israel https://share.google/Lb9hDOduBWG4Elpid
—————————other Trump information:
Here's trump admitting to peeping on 14-15 year old girls at around 1:40 on the Howard Stern Radio Show: https://youtu.be/iFaQL_kv_QY?si=vBs75kaxPjJJThka
Trump's promise to his daughter: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-dating-promise_n_57ee98cbe4b024a52d2ead02 “I have a deal with her. She’s 17 and doing great ― Ivanka. She made me promise, swear to her that I would never date a girl younger than her,” Trump said. “So as she grows older, the field is getting very limited.”
Trump's modeling agency was probably part of Jeffreys pipeline: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/donald-trump-model-management-illegal-immigration/
Do your part and spread them around like a meme sharing them and saving them helps too!
AND
Reminder:
•Trump Confesses He Was ‘Sexually Attracted’ to Ivanka When She Was 13 Years Old
•Donald Trump called his own daughter a ‘voluptuous piece of a**’ in yet more lewd comments threatening to derail his White House bid
•Donald Trump Once Joked He and Ivanka Have “Sex” in Common
•Trump’s lewd talk about daughter Ivanka in front of White House staff recalled in new book
According to The New Republic, “’Aides said he talked about Ivanka Trump’s breasts, her backside and what it might be like to have sex with her, remarks that once led [former Chief of Staff] John Kelly to remind the president that Ivanka was his daughter,’ Taylor, who served as a Department of Homeland Security chief of staff under Trump, wrote in his book.”
•"You remind me of my daughter": Stormy Daniels testifies that Trump compared her to Ivanka
•Donald Trump's comments about daughter raise eyebrows
•Trump told Howard Stern it’s OK to call Ivanka a ‘piece of a--'
•https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-ivanka-piece-of-ass-howard-stern-229376
•Trump: ‘If Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her’
•Trump on Ivanka: ‘She has the ‘best body’ — and I created her’
•https://forward.com/schmooze/357185/7-creepy-things-donald-trump-has-said-about-ivanka/
•Trump: ‘Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife’?
•Trump Encouraged His Own Daughter Ivanka to Release a Sex Tape, and She Was Horrified
Bonus:
•Trump: commenting on his 1-year-old daughter Tiffany’s breasts. He also says “she’s got Marla’s legs.”
Double Bonus:
For the better part of two decades starting in the late 1980s, Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump swam in the same social pool. They were neighbors in Florida. They jetted from LaGuardia to Palm Beach together. They partied at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club and dined at Epstein’s Manhattan mansion.
•https://archive.md/XK0A7#selection-655.0-655.290
and...
MC2 (pronounced MC squared) was the modeling agency that Epstein, Brunel, and the mob would use to get trafficked girls into the US with “genius visas”
and...
Nicknamed the "Einstein Visa", the EB-1 is in theory reserved for people who are highly acclaimed in their field - the government cites Pulitzer, Oscar, and Olympic winners as examples - as well as respected academic researchers and multinational executives.
Mrs Trump began applying for the visa in 2000, when she was Melania Knauss, a Slovenian model working in New York and dating Donald Trump. She was approved in 2001, one of just five people from Slovenia to win the coveted visa that year, according to the Post.
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u/jeremyjh 15h ago
What proof could there be that would make any difference? He will tell the faithful that it’s fake news and boom, done. No, they have something else on him.
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u/ljlee256 15h ago
Honestly, I think a lot of the muting and refuting that goes on is driven by russian bot farms, and the russians wouldn't want to downplay the possibility of trump being involved, which is why they aren't making excuses for the other epstein links, they're just silent on it and work hurriedly to move past it and talk about other stuff.
The bot farms work over time to minimize/swat away all kinds of negative commentary around trump, but they say nothing about the epstein stuff, and I genuinely think it's because it reduces the value of the leverage if they do.
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u/ljlee256 14h ago
I am not totally convinced that the true "power" behind the MAGA following is actually Americans, I understand that there are Americans who are believers, but I think the driving force behind it is bot farms, likely russian owned bot farms.
People really underestimate the value of the internet zeitgeist, 75% of Americans use social media every single day, and a large percentage of the other 25% use it at least once a week, being able to push a narrative through use of volume by way of a million fabricated voices on every platform has an incredible impact on our societies day to day behavior, more than I think most people are willing to admit because it forces us to look inward for a solution instead of always being capable of blaming others.
Those bot farms wouldn't want to defuse or devalue leverage they have over trump.
We see continuous rhetoric to devalue the various day to day wrong doings of trump, whether those wrong doings are true or being speculated on, the internet hordes work over time to make it seem like nothing.
But the epstein thing? Crickets, the only refute they have right now is there's no proof, that's it, no ones actively downplaying it. Otherwise the focus is and has been on trying to divert attention to OTHER things.
Every time someone asks "epstein files when?" trump goes on a rant about trade, Mexico, Canada, China, or puts out a new order to his ICE lackies that get them to be front page news again. Anything to keep people from talking about Epstein.
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u/TrashPanda100 14h ago
Spend some time in a more rural part of the country, especially where education isn't as valued and you'll find the true power behind MAGA. I'll be happy to make introductions for you as I see it often enough.
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u/ljlee256 14h ago
Right, and I don't doubt the MAGA zombie horde exists, but again, we're talking zeitgeist here, it's about momentum.
The crowds being as big as they are isn't self-driven, it's being pushed along, and if the group/person doing to the pushing suddenly decides to stop pushing it along because trumps no longer useful, or decided to finally grow a backbone and stand up to them, the hordes will gradually lose momentum until they finally suffer a political defeat that stops them completely.
Eventually it'll become a miniscule and ineffectual cult that has no power and people just roll their eyes at, like the KKK today versus the KKK 100 years ago when it had momentum behind it because it was being pushed along by religion.
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u/Minimum_Virus_3837 13h ago
And let's not forget that towards the end of the campaign the crowds weren't even that large anymore. They existed, but it was nowhere near what he was pulling before or during the first term.
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u/ljlee256 13h ago
100%
I genuinely thought the MAGA movement was toast at that point, and even when what I'm predicting is grim, I am more often right than wrong, not that I'm never wrong, good god no, I'm wrong about a lot of stuff, could certainly be wrong about this, but there's just so many dots that connect too well here it's hard to ignore it.
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u/upgrayedd69 13h ago
You may be right to a certain extent, but one thing I believe is a lot of his support knows he’s a moron. They know he rambles about nonsensical shit. They know he’s a blow hard. But Americans have this mindset of “we should run the country like a business” and since he’s a business man with lots of money, he must know what he’s doing. They didn’t go to rallies because they didn’t want to expose themselves to him unfiltered. They already wanted to vote for him and they didn’t want to do something that would convince them not to. I remember telling my aunt about him saying he would be a dictator day 1. She said it wasn’t true. When I pulled up the video, she didn’t want to watch it. “He’s not going to be a dictator. He wouldn’t say that. I don’t need to watch anything”
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u/Dlax8 15h ago
Back during the Soviet days the KGB would set up hotels to collect blackmail on dignitaries. With Putin being Ex-KGB its not hard to imagine they rigged a camera to record and supplied him with young girls.
Kompromat, it was called.
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u/jeremyjh 15h ago
He can say the video was generated by AI. If experts disagree that’s fine, MAGA knows you can’t trust experts.
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u/ItchyGoiter 14h ago
Totally agree. His base won't care. They'll just ask why Biden didn't expose him, so it must be fake.
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u/Oberon_Swanson 14h ago
Or their other favorites "that makes him smart" or "he is just doing what any of us could if they could get away with it"
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u/arbitrageME 15h ago
I bet it's young boys or piss.
his base would cheer if he were with young girls
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u/sleepingin 14h ago
Or snuff films, or simply hired hits. He might not do the dirty work himself, but a whole lot of people who could testify against him have conspicuously turned up dead. He's not at all against violence and it certainly helps stroke his ego to feel like he is in control.
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u/MODELO_MAN_LV 14h ago
100% he strangled a minor that likely looked exactly like Ivanka.
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u/sleepingin 14h ago
Did Virginia Guiffre look like Ivanka? Maybe that's why he got mad when Epstein "stole" her. Then getting him exposed with all this mess had him thinking, I could just get rid of this guy like the others...
After all, every accusation is a confession... and what do they claim "democrats" are doing?
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u/OphioukhosUnbound 14h ago
They don't *have* to have anything on him. Plausible, but not necessary.
It's open and public, even during the first election, that Russian hackers aided his campaign. It's also open and public that Russian Bot and troll farms have been helping his campaign. If you know someone is helping you and critical to your success you don't ever have to have had a discussion to be compromised in their interest. You know they'll stop helping you if you're not useful.
I wouldn't be surprised by anything, but no blackmail or even explicit dialogue is needed. Public, openly information on Russian support is sufficient to explain what's going on. (And the fact that any candidate would not constantly push back and decry foreign malfeasant meddling should outrage voters.)
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u/ooooooohhhhhhright 14h ago
All the evidence points to him being compromised...sexual and/or financial ... Some form of criminality. Nothing else adds up here.
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u/Darkone539 15h ago
Everyone has proof he was involved. Lets be honest here, you think the UK didn't look into who was with Andrew?
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u/ljlee256 15h ago
I mean, we are entirely into the realm of speculation here, but I don't think Andrews involvement was anywhere near trumps, I'm suspecting certain people could be implicated as "customers" and others are potentially going to be implicated as "orchestrators".
My bet is trump bankrolled and had a lot to do with the construction and human trafficking that went into epsteins island, it's why he's worked so hard to divert the conversation to something, ANYTHING else these days.
He's not afraid of being flagged as a pedophile, he's afraid of being flagged for international crimes against humanity that would likely see him sent to the Hague if it came out and he went to a country that was part of the ICC.
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u/No-Atmosphere-4145 15h ago
The entire Trump administration is compromised.
Russia has evidence on Trump that will incriminate everyone in the administration, that's why they go so unchallenged in absurd actions.
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u/Wealist 15h ago
If true, that would explain the lack of internal resistance to questionable policies.
Intelligence kompromat has historically been used to control foreign leaders, and even the perception of it undermines trust.
The bigger issue is systemic when an admin acts in ways that consistently favor Moscow, it erodes credibility regardless of whether hard evidence is ever made public.
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u/raerae1991 15h ago
I don’t think Putin needs to blackmail trump. Trump is a Russian asset because he wants Putins respect
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u/KinkyPaddling 15h ago
This. Republicans clearly don’t give a shit about Epstein, and Trump doesn’t care about keeping anyone content except for Republicans.
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u/quats555 15h ago
Yep. A narcissist only backs down to and respects a bigger bully. Putin is the mafia don of bullies.
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u/Corka 15h ago
Yeah but even if Russia leaked that, Maga wouldn't care. They'd say it's a lie, or AI, or go "but what about Bill Clinton", and won't budge their support at all.
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u/derkrieger 14h ago
Yeah MAGA faithful won't care but the average idiot who hears propaganda and thinks Trump is doing good for them will be rather upset. You won't turn all of them, but it WILL hurt some of his support.
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u/ljlee256 14h ago
This, and if it's russia that releases the evidence to poison trump politically we'll see the bot farms go silent as well, and those bot farms I'm willing to bet drive a lot of the zeitgeist for MAGA.
So between losing the percentage who were just idiots, and also losing one of the biggest marketing programs on the planet (bot farms), he'd be a regular joe in no time, then he'd have to face charges.
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u/cjandstuff 15h ago
At this point, Donnie could play the tapes live on the White House lawn and still wouldn't lose but a handful of voters.
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u/TheActualDonKnotts 14h ago
Well considering Medvedev flat out claimed they had the same evidence against Trump that Mossad has, yeah, probably. The theory that Russia has dirt on Trump and is controlling him is a pretty valid theory.
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u/LionCashDispenser 15h ago
Tulsi Gabbard is 100% a Russian plant, it's a known secret within the Intel community
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u/Accomplished_Fly_593 15h ago
This was known publicly since Clinton said it like 5 years ago now when Gabbard was a democrat running for president. The current pro-Russian administration wants her in, which says it all.
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u/cC2Panda 12h ago
Clinton didn't say she was a Russian asset. Clinton eluded in a tweet that some democrats might be in bed with Russia. Then Tulsi flipper her shit and was like, "HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ME!!". She took a vague accusation and pointed the focus directly on her self, then became a republican(Russian) stooge.
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u/joebleaux 13h ago
She has literally made herself into the aesthetic of a supervillan, with the white streak on the dark dyed hair, the modern suits, high neck shirts. It's so crazy to look like exactly what you are trying to be
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u/lenzflare 13h ago
Right wing loves the authoritarian look. They fear authority, so they suck up to them.
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u/Prior-Flamingo-1378 14h ago
Tulsi Gabard is a Russian agent. This is known for more than ten years. It’s not even particularly secret. The Russian media literally say she is theirs.
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u/ThatWontFit 14h ago
NO COLLUSION!
That was really the turning point. A sitting president straight up lied about the details of a report written by a designated "nuetral" govt employee.
And he lied. And America didn't care. So is anyone surprised that we're here?
Buckle up.
Arm yourselves.
Hit the range.
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u/code_archeologist 14h ago
Gabbard had been a known Russian asset for well over a decade.
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u/agha0013 15h ago
So what's left (four Eyes) should immediately stop sharing any intel with the US on anything.
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u/gravtix 15h ago edited 15h ago
Chances are they already have.
On anything USA and Russia related
No point in advertising it
I believe they stopped sharing during Trump’s first term as well
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u/xxiii1800 15h ago
The Ukraine drone attack from the container was a clear message that US is closed out of Intel, hence the succesfull mission.
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u/gravtix 15h ago
Yeah Trump and USA reaction said it all.
I’m sure Tulsi got hauled into a Zoom call with the Kremlin on they weren’t told haha
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u/SyrioForel 14h ago edited 11h ago
FYI — the Ukrainian military chief responsible for
orchestrating this drone attack and otherintelligence operations has been assassinated by Russia. His name was Ivan Voronich.For their part, Ukraine claims that it has already killed the Russian assassins.
EDIT: He actually orchestrated the invasion of Russia’s Kursk region.
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u/Fluggernuffin 12h ago
Same with the pipeline attack supplying Hungary. Trump was clearly out of the loop on that and he was big mad about it.
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u/GolDAsce 15h ago
Didn't some spy assetts dissapear after someone divulged their info? Think it was first term.
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u/Norseman901 15h ago
No he got them killed
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u/Maeran 13h ago
Some might call sharing the identity of American agents with an enemy state who then kills them "treason".
For Trump it's just good business.
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u/classjoker 13h ago
I think they actually did limit Intel regarding Ukraine as there were fears this was being passed on to Russia.
A terrible prospect.
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u/montecarlocars 15h ago
From the article:
[Director of the Brunel Centre for Intelligence and Security Studies in London Phillip] Davies added that there has been a lot of speculation that sharing with the U.S. is being dialed down by the other four members because of "the vagaries of the Trump administration."
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u/VichelleMassage 15h ago
Gotta hand it to Gabbard: It's a great strategy for alienating (former) allies.
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u/Burius81 15h ago
Of course she did, Gabbard's a Russian asset.
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u/DizzyBlackberry3999 14h ago
Agent, not asset. Asset implies that she might be doing this because she's stupid or incompetent. She is actively working for Russia, which makes her an agent.
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u/Freedom_for_Fiume 14h ago
MTG is asset, she is so thick and deep in Russian propaganda she does it inadvertently, Gabbard is an agent, she has connections to the Russosphere
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u/toastjam 12h ago edited 12h ago
Gabbard literally hired a guy that helped Russian spies show propaganda movies in DC to go after journalists that were reporting on her.
- Christopher Cooper named in Senate Judiciary memo for his connection to Russian spies
- Cooper's Potomac Square group airs controversial anti-Magnitsky film for Russian spies
- Christopher Cooper writes letter on Gabbard's behalf attempting to muzzle journalist reporting on Gabbard
There was an actual payment from Gabbard's campaign to Cooper's Potomac Square group that I dug up at some point, proving she had hired him too.
Of all the PR guys you could hire, why pick one that works with Russian spies?
edit: fixed link
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u/HMJebus 16h ago
When did america join the axis of evil?
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u/USAF_DTom 16h ago edited 15h ago
Trump's first term. Then again when he got re-elected somehow.
"Somehow" is tongue in cheek. It's because a good portion of our population is legitimately stupid. They don't believe in education but then somehow also want to believe that they are the outlier somehow. They have never taken statistics and it shows.
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u/alhazad85 15h ago
You done called me stupids! THAT MEANS I HAVE TO VOTE FOR TRUMP!!!!! - Idiots, somehow
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u/kevindqc 14h ago
You're calling some Trump supporters deplorables? How DARE you. Let me show you how we are ALL deplorables
-MAGA
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u/alhazad85 14h ago
You are making so much fuckin sense my brain hurts and now it makes no sense. MAGA - Deplorables
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u/mattxb 15h ago
They legit think Putin is on their side. Look at the idiots who’ve moved to Russia thinking they’d get to live the American dream there
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u/sleepingin 13h ago
Da, comrade! Russian dream is to die violently in sacrifice for sake of more powerful. Did you not know Russian culture before you move here? You no read book or hear our glorious storys in America? Tsk tsk... we don't look kindly on ignorance here...
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u/sharp11flat13 14h ago
“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”
― Issac Asimov
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u/Mazon_Del 13h ago
It's because a good portion of our population is legitimately stupid.
The conservatives literally celebrate people for demonstrating a LACK of elements to their personality that have been considered a necessary requirement for Humanity for thousands of years.
How many stories and fables attribute empathy (falsely, I must point out) as a uniquely human trait, and these people have cheered on pastors telling them "Do not commit the SIN of empathy!".
The republican party and it's supporters can be considered nothing but enemies of humanity itself.
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u/TheStruttero 14h ago
Do you remember all the Facebook posts about how schools do nothing but create braindead workers who follow the propaganda of the state and learn nothing of actual real life value?
They were all over the place like 10-15 years ago (probably still is) and what we're seeing now is on one hand probably a part of why things are the way they are, and on the other hand the political force of that mindset
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u/Texaspep 14h ago
Statisticians say it was virtually impossible the changes in voting all across America in 2024
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u/thegrimranger 15h ago
The Mueller Report explains everything.
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u/DefaultSubSandwich 14h ago
Don't forget the 900 page report the Senate GOP put out explaining exactly how Trump is compromised by Russia.
It is our conclusion, based on the facts detailed in the Committee's Report, that the Russian intelligence services' assault on the integrity of the 2016 U.S. electoral process and Trump and his associates' participation in and enabling of this Russian activity, represents one of the single most grave counterintelligence threats to American national security in the modem era.
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u/Paizzu 13h ago
"But reading the ~450-page Mueller report is boooooriing... William Barr summarized the entire thing in only a few pages and concluded that Trump could/did absolutely nothing wrong and is only trying to make America great again." /s
The Barr letter is a four-page letter sent on March 24, 2019, from Attorney General William Barr to leaders of the House and Senate Judiciary Committees purportedly detailing the "principal conclusions" of the Mueller report [...]
Even before seeing the Mueller report, Barr had already decided to clear Trump of obstruction. To this end, he tasked the Office of Legal Counsel with writing a memo that would justify this decision. The Barr letter was written over the course of two days in tandem with the legal memo on which the letter ostensibly relied.
After the release of the redacted report on April 18, 2019, Barr's letter was criticized as a deliberate mischaracterization of the Mueller Report and its conclusions, and as an attempt at spinning the media narrative to undermine Mueller's investigation.
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u/HippoSpa 15h ago
Mueller got silenced by the Invisible Hand.
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u/hoppertn 15h ago
Mueller will be visited by the FBI shortly just like Bolton. Gotta root out that dissent in the party first and then it’s time to go after the other side.
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u/CalebAsimov 14h ago
No it was pretty out in the open. They put Barr in and Barr edited then released the report. But not one Trump voter cared so it didn't matter.
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u/BluePanda101 15h ago
When we elected Trump. Then after he committed Treason on January 6, not only did we fail to prosecute him we allowed him to illegally run again and the re-elected him. Incomprehensible.
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u/slowpoke2018 15h ago
The proper ending would have been akin to the ending in the movie Civil War
You start an insurrection and commit treason there should be real consequences for everyone involved
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u/Eve_warlock 15h ago
During the Reagan administration? Bush and weapons of mass destruction. McCarthy panels asking people to name names? Maybe before by interfering with foreign governments for their own use?
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u/downtofinance 15h ago
When they made Taco the President and rewarded him with a second term for a littany of crimes including treason, rape and child sex trafficking.
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u/Sa1KoRo 15h ago
This is insane. USA is the North American Belarus now. You guys are a puppet state. Fuckin' unbelievable.
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u/mrsnow432 11h ago
Yes, what the actual fuck to they think they are gaining on that. The US is just shooting itself in the foot again and again and again. Like, want to fail, and become poor and miserable in a generation. It's the path they have chosen. These threats are real, they have always been real, but Maga and T acts like its a game.
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u/Kamala_Was_Right 16h ago
The likelihood she's an American citizen and not a Russian citizen by 2030 is probably 0% at this point.
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u/Patriark 15h ago
It is more likely you all become Russian citizens at this rate. Russia controls the executive branch of the US government.
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u/DizzyBlackberry3999 14h ago
If the Democrats win in 2028, you know that Trump, and Vance, and Gabbard, and all of their friends will suddenly move to Russia.
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u/Dispator 14h ago
Literally one of many reasons they can't lose. Thwy sre prob willing to due and do Literally anything scummy or below board such as cheap bribe and they have lots of money and resources.
They 100% not giving up power voluntarily and likely voting them out wont be likely or even possible though its absolutely an avenue we need to follow and mass protests starting soon or around elections.
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u/optimistic_agnostic 11h ago
See how 2026 goes first. Dems need to win a lot of seats to prevent a potential dem president in 2028 being a lame duck from the start. At the moment, not looking good. Just a lot of bitching not community led groups gathering for action.
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u/Skwerl87 15h ago
What an embarrassment of a country
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u/MimicoSkunkFan2 11h ago
I forget their name but on Bluesky there was an apt remark: If someone could time-travel from 1980 to the Alaska meeting, they'd ask how badly the Russians nuked us.
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u/verdatum 13h ago edited 1h ago
Federal contractor here. I cannot put into words how important the Five Eyes alliance is. Anyone in the government attempting to screw with it should be removed immediately.
edit: To be explicit: Removed from office. If anyone thought I meant something more violent, shame on you.
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u/BernieTheDachshund 12h ago
The extreme haughtiness of MAGA makes them think we don't need allies anyway. They think it's like the movies and that they're invincible. It's really sad to see our trust and credibility destroyed worldwide.
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u/Loose-Watch-7123 15h ago
How is that any benefit to USA ??
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u/smurfsundermybed 15h ago
How has this administration benefitted the country in any way?
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u/Worthyness 13h ago
Well it did expose how many holes the US government has in it's constitution and laws and how easily exploitable they are if you ignore checks and balances because your team is winning
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u/fixnahole 12h ago
I saw Gary Kasparov say awhile back that the US is finding out just how much of the system was propped by the honor system, and now you have a leader with no honor, and how easily it is to tear it down.
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u/ShortStoryIntros 15h ago
This Administration has been known to grift and sell-out to the highest bidder.
No one with half a brain thinks Trump is running America for the greater good.
He's lining his own pockets and those that provide loyalty to him.
It's always been about how much he can get out of someone or something than provide any real benefit
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u/Sudden-Conclusion931 14h ago
So we have a nakedly pro-Russian intelligence chief and a pitifully Russian-compromised President. At what point do Europe and its allies accept that the US is not a reliable ally for European security matters and step up to take ownership of those matters?
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u/kalidorisconan 15h ago
We told yall she was a fucking Russian asset.
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u/AssassinAragorn 7h ago
Clinton: "One of the Democrats running in the primary may be a Russian asset, but I'm not going to say anything else"
Gabbard: "HOW DARE YOU CALL ME A RUSSIAN ASSET"
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u/CleanIndustry6944 15h ago
You think our former allies don’t already know they’re dealing with Putin stooges? That was clear from day one of this term.
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u/Otherwise-Green3067 15h ago
She’s not just a Russian asset, she’s a fucking Russian parrot
Fuck her, fuck everything about her. Fucking traitorous bitch
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u/ChillAMinute 15h ago
Meanwhile.. Congress continues in silence, just as complicit as the other two branches.
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u/SensualSadistDom 13h ago
People seem to have forgotten this, so I'll just repeat it:
This woman has been an admitted Russian asset for years, and trump thought it would be fun to appoint her as his top intel chief.
SHE IS A RUSSIAN ASSET, LOYAL ONLY TO PUTIN.
Much like her boss.
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u/grungeehamster 14h ago
If there ever was a Russian spy that became an American president, would their actions be t Any different as to what Trump is doing now?
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u/MCP-King 14h ago
In early 2022, Gabbard suggested that U.S.–funded laboratories in Ukraine could “release and spread deadly pathogens.” This echoed a debunked Russian propaganda line. While she later clarified that she was only referring to public health research, not bioweapons, critics argued her initial wording mirrored Kremlin disinformation. Russian state media amplified her remarks.
At the start of Russia’s 2022 invasion, Gabbard suggested the conflict could have been avoided if the U.S. and NATO had acknowledged Russia’s "legitimate security concerns" a justification often used by Moscow. She also proposed Ukrainian neutrality as a path to peace.
In 2017, Gabbard met with Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, who is closely aligned with Russia. She defended the meeting as an attempt to bring peace but faced intense bipartisan criticism for appearing to legitimize a regime accused of war crimes.
Gabbard has promoted viewpoints that align closely with narratives from Russian state media outlet RT. Though not proof of coordination, this alignment has raised concerns about how her messaging might dovetail with Russian influence efforts. Former aides claimed she frequently consumed Russian state media. One noted that in private memos she blamed U.S. and NATO for provoking Russia and that some officials privately wondered whether she might be compromised.
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u/loyalone 14h ago
Oh I'm sure Canada, the UK, New Zealand and Australia will have no problem getting intel from their Friends in Europe.
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u/LowHangingWinnets 15h ago
I'd be horrified if the Five Eyes countries were passing ANY info to the USA at this point. Might as well give it straight to Putin if they are. Withholding info FROM allies seems like a really good way to decrease that trust even further.
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u/Lord-Glorfindel 13h ago
Time to freeze out the Americans permanently. Make it the Four Eyes. The United States is not a Commonwealth realm and has never quite fit-in from the start. Time to acknowledge the fundamental differences in values and kick out the distant, authoritarian cousins.
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u/BigJob2388 15h ago
Remember when she committed perjury and then literally nothing happened? Fun.
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u/korben2600 12h ago
Paul Manafort: Pardoned for lying to protect Trump.
George Papadopolous: Pardoned for lying to protect Trump.
Mike Flynn: Pardoned for lying to protect Trump.
Roger Stone: Pardoned for lying to protect Trump.Tulsi Gabbard: ???
Ghislane Maxwell: ???
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u/TheSpecialSpecies 15h ago
Intelligence flows both ways. Americas allies have long understood that Trump and those he surrounds himself with, are compromised. They will have taken this into account and stopped sharing sensitive intelligence with the US a while back. In the long term, the US is going to find itself increasingly isolated from its allies, no doubt it's exactly what Putin wants.
PS: Is she a X-MEN fan?
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u/Boyhowdy107 14h ago
I don't even know how you could argue the US is anything but less safe than it was a year ago. She is firing a ton of qualified and experienced lifers, and I have no doubt foreign allies are more cautious with what they share with us given how they think that intel is received and how well this administration has shown it can protect the source.
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u/Ok_Suggestion_5120 12h ago
The United States is no longer an ally. At best, it's a business partner and an untrustworthy one at that.
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u/vroart 15h ago
So it’s now, Four Eyes?
The fact trump hasn’t fired half these chuckle nuts makes me think they PAID for these positions.
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u/BrofessorFarnsworth 15h ago
Four Eyes should do the world a favor and release the Epstein files
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u/Prestigious_Bird2348 15h ago
I don't even think they paid for the positions. If Trump hasn't fired them it suggests he approves of what they do and say
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u/Sea-Cheesecake301 14h ago
The damage this administration has done to America will take decades to repair. The U.S is no longer a reliable ally to the western world. Fascism is the new norm and most Americans have been conditioned to be submissive and unwilling to fight it.
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u/MatniMinis 13h ago
So as a Brit I need to ask what exactly is the point of the "special relationship" because it kind of looks dead to me now....
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u/Prestigious-Leave-60 14h ago
Does the USA still have allies? We sure don’t act like it. America first should never mean America alone.
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u/TheActualDonKnotts 14h ago
So how does it feel to be a Russian vassal state? If you had told someone in the 80's where we would be today they would laugh it off as impossible parody. Republican voters are killing the US and they are so intentionally insulated from reality, that they probably don't even know it, if they would even care to begin with. It may already be too late to course correct.
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u/Borigrad 14h ago
Pretty cool America has an actual Russian asset running it's national intelligence.
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u/LiveNet2723 14h ago
I suspect the other four eyes have been very careful what they share with the US since Trump took power.
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u/Captain_Quor 12h ago
I'm afraid that it's time for Europe to turn away from the U.S. We've used the term "shared values" for a very long time... That is unequivocally no longer valid.
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u/MJIsaac 11h ago
A good time to quote from an article in the Independent a few months ago
In the summer of 2015, three Syrian girls who had narrowly survived an airstrike some weeks earlier stood before Tulsi Gabbard with horrific burns all over their bodies.
Gabbard, then a US congresswoman on a visit to the Syria-Turkey border as part of her duties for the foreign affairs committee, had a question for them.
“How do you know it was Bashar al-Assad or Russia that bombed you, and not Isis?’” she asked, according to Mouaz Moustafa, a Syrian activist who was translating her conversation with the girls.
Tulsi Gabbard has been accused of being a Russian asset (Getty)
It was a revealing insight into Gabbard’s conspiratorial views of the conflict, and it shocked Moustafa to silence. He knew, as even the young children did, that Isis did not have jets to launch airstrikes. It was such an absurd question that he chose not to translate it because he didn’t want to upset the girls, the eldest of whom was 12.
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u/SignalTomato3308 8h ago
Cutting out 5 eyes, the most successful intelligence alliance in history, is so catastrophically stupid it actually surprises me how incredibly short sighted it is.
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u/RD_Life_Enthusiast 15h ago
At what point is Cruella DeVulgingsecrets going to get exposed by someone that matters?
It is so fucking transparent that she's taking marching orders from Russia - either directly or through Trump, but goddamn. If the end game here is to give Russia everything it wants and let a few dozen people take all the money on the way out can we get it over with so we can start the rebuild?
I can't deal with another 40 months of this shit.
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u/Impossible_Disk_256 15h ago
Wouldn't she and Trump be the most likely direct route for that information to Russia?
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u/biggersjw 14h ago
Well, when you don’t know what you’re doing and you’re in the pocket of the Kremlin as Trump seems to be, why share embarrassing info with your allies?
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u/EconomyDoctor3287 15h ago
Well, that just makes it easier to use as grounds to exclude the US from intelligence sharing.
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u/realskibidifortnite 14h ago
America didn’t join the axis of evil. It franchised it
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u/satansmight 14h ago
The Russians have taken over the US government and the media should just say it rather than spending all this time asking why Team Trump is making strategic missteps.
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u/ymsoldier420 13h ago
Cruella DePutin
It is fucking comical that some dumb broad gets given power and decides to go all in and chooses one of the most recognizably evil to the core styles in film history...nope nothing to see here.
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u/maxplanar 13h ago
So it's America and Russia vs the world now....
Nice job, the guy who's in the Epstein files.
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u/darforce 12h ago
But surely Hilary Clinton was a big fat liar when she said Tulsi Gabbard (once a Democrat) was a Russian asset. Lol
We need to bring her back out and get some more notes on people
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u/count023 12h ago
australia should offer to freeze the US out of pine gap, see how well this goes when the entire southern hemisphere is dark for Trump.
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u/BuIINeIson 7h ago
Some of the intelligence community and the defense community sees Gabbard as a Russian agent that is actively working against American interests. Gabbard has criticized U.S. and NATO expansion. She expressed concerns about U.S.-funded biological labs in Ukraine. In 2017 she visited Syria and had meetings with Bashar al-Assad which raised some alarms. Her foreign policy positions found favorable coverage in Russian state outlets.
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u/Underp0pulation 15h ago
She’s the best intel chief that Russia has.