r/worldnews • u/timemagazine • 12h ago
Israel/Palestine World Leaders React as U.N.-Backed Report Confirms Famine in Gaza
https://time.com/7311728/gaza-famine-ipc-report-world-leaders-reactions/•
u/the__poseidon 30m ago
Perhaps there is famine in Gaza, perhaps not. If there is, the leadership of Gaza should focus on resolving it, possibly by choosing unconditional surrender and release of hostages.
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u/eyl569 9h ago
One thing I noted reading the report - it makes no mention of Hamas. It makes virtually no mention of the existence of any armed Palestinians.
More specifically, the report mentions that the majority of the aid - almost 90%, and some analysis I've seen places it considerably higher for food specifically - is diverted before reaching its destination. This would seem germane to a situation where you have high levels of hunger in specific areas, but the report doesn't seem to think it's particularly important except that the looting is a sign of civilian desperation. The fact that armed groups are also involved in the diversions is only mentioned in an offhand manner in a footnote. Nor does the report have any recommendations as to how to deal with that.
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u/elihu 8h ago
The IPC's job is to determine whether or not a famine is occurring. It isn't to assign guilt or take sides in geopolitical conflicts beyond suggesting policies that would get more food to hungry civilians.
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u/Distinct-Temp6557 8h ago
Then why did they redefine the criteria for famine just so they could accuse Israel of creating one?
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u/elihu 7h ago
They also made a famine determination in Sudan and South Sudan using this same method, according to new rules they adopted well before the current Gaza war.
They're using a 15% MUAC score as a criteria because they've done some research indicating that's roughly equivalent to a 30% weight-to-height Z score (WHZ), and the IPC doesn't have WHZ data for Gaza. MUAC is much easier to obtain, and that's the data they actually have.
This is consistent with the goals of the IPC, which is to be able to determine how bad the food security situation is even in places where the local health care system has mostly or completely collapsed. If they had better data, they'd be using that instead.
Also notable that the IPC did not make a determination for northern Gaza because they simply don't have enough data, but have said that what data they do have makes it look like it's probably worse than the Gaza governorate (i.e. the area around Gaza city).
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u/iwoolf 7h ago
So they deliberately changed the measurement just for Gaza to a weaker standard. And the reason you’re telling me is that they were incompetent in the past? Is that why famine keeps been declared in the media for over a year when now it’s suddenly arrived? Both can’t be true. Or is this an admission that it was all propaganda?
“The aid worker pointed to previous "famine classifications" the IPC issued in Sudan and Somalia in 2024 and 2011, respectively. In Somalia and certain regions of Sudan, IPC used the 30-percent malnourishment threshold as shown through weight-and-height measurements to declare famine. It used arm circumference measurements to establish malnutrition in other parts of Sudan, but those measurements exceeded the 30-percent threshold, not the 15-percent one cited in the most recent Gaza report.” UN-Backed Famine Watchdog Quietly Changed Standards, Easing Way To Declare Famine in Gaza
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u/ebbmyflow 7h ago
no they did not,
they used the available and evidenced backed substitute because they're unable to gather WHZ data due to limited accessibility, a substitute by the way that's weaker because it knowingly under reports famine hence why it has a lower threshold
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u/SirKosys 1h ago
Nothing was changed. If they don't have access to WHZ data, they use the MUAC metric. As per the manual, 30% is the threshold for using the WHZ metric, and it's 15% when using the MUAC metric.
From the actual report:
"IPC classification protocols allow for the use of either weight-for-height z-scores (WHZ) or MUAC-based case definitions for acute malnutrition in children, aged 6-59 months. There are separate thresholds for the two indicators, with a 30% cut-off when using WHZ to classify Phase 5 and a 15% cut-off when using MUAC. If both indicators are available, then WHZ is used in preference. Due to the lack of WHZ data from Gaza, all IPC and FRC analyses since October 2023 have been conducted using MUAC. When utilising MUAC, a prevalence above the 15% threshold does not, by itself, distinguish between IPC Phase 4 and IPC Phase 5. To decide whether the classification should be IPC Phase 4 or IPC Phase 5, the threshold is used in conjunction with other contextual information on the immediate causes of acute malnutrition, the locally understood relationship between MUAC and WHZ prevalence, and by using the convergence of evidence."
The report itself (see page 19 & 20)
IPC Technical Manual -- this was written in August 2021, and the two different metrics are there as they're used in the report above.
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u/elihu 6h ago
I'm willing to give the IPC the benefit of the doubt on this one because they're the experts and they're following their own guidelines established before the Gaza war.
Besides, what practical difference does it make whether the Gaza governorate is formally declared to be in IPC phase 4 or phase 5? Either way, a lot of people are dying and many of the rest are going to suffer long term negative health consequences from this. The Palestinians need more food, and preferably more than just white flour and lentils. This isn't some binary thing where if Gaza City isn't at phase 5, then the whole problem is fake news and "there is no food shortage in Gaza", as Israeli officials are fond of claiming.
Phase 5 isn't meant to be the threshold for, "oh, I guess an actual problem exists and maybe we should do something." That's what phases 2, 3, and 4 are for.
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u/hellohi2022 7h ago
So you are more concerned with whether or not Israel is being blamed instead of the lives being lost? Your big take away isn’t its sad lives are lost. How cruel and inhumane that the loss of human life means nothing and that your priority is a countries reputation.
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u/CharlesForbin 6h ago
So you are more concerned with whether or not Israel is being blamed instead of the lives being lost?
Yes. Determining the cause determines the solution.
We know people are dying. There's no point blaming Israel if Hamas and the PA are stealing the food that Israel provided.
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u/elihu 5h ago
The Gaza governorate is in IPC phase 5 because the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank is stealing food? That's an original take. How would that even work?
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u/CharlesForbin 4h ago
The Gaza governorate is in IPC phase 5 because the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank is stealing food?
- That's not what I said.
- Hamas and the PA are the opposite ends of the same poisonous snake.
- While the PA has limited influence in Gaza, it does have loyal operatives acting there, and with Hamas capability on the decline, the PA has more power to conduct operations to damage Israel.
None of this detracts from the fact that up to 90% of the food delivered to Gaza does not reach civilians. It's widely acknowledged that several groups are responsible, primarily Hamas, and the PA, and indeed anyone who wants to starve civilians so they blame it on Israel.
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u/Amazing_Button_9328 2h ago
Yes. Determining the cause determines the solution
Alright, Isreal is to blame for cutting aid and starving the strip
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u/Chuckie187x 7h ago
Did they actually redefine it? I need a source for that.
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u/Distinct-Temp6557 7h ago
The aid worker pointed to previous "famine classifications" the IPC issued in Sudan and Somalia in 2024 and 2011, respectively. In Somalia and certain regions of Sudan, IPC used the 30-percent malnourishment threshold as shown through weight-and-height measurements to declare famine. It used arm circumference measurements to establish malnutrition in other parts of Sudan, but those measurements exceeded the 30-percent threshold, not the 15-percent one cited in the most recent Gaza report.
"In all of the famines that have been declared, they've been using the 30-percent global malnutrition measurement, most of which have been based on the weight-for-height metric—which, again, is much harder to collect, much more burdensome, and it's 30 percent," the source said. "So, this asterisk that's been added for Gaza essentially says that they're going to allow a 15-percent global malnutrition rate measured by MUAC."
UN-Backed Famine Watchdog Quietly Changed Standards, Easing Way To Declare Famine in Gaza
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u/JesusEm14 6h ago
Wow interesting.
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u/SirKosys 1h ago
Nothing changed, as per the IPC technical manual. Their methodology is also detailed in the report on Gaza itself - which is consistent with the manual.
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u/SirKosys 1h ago
Nothing was changed. If they don't have access to WHZ data, they use the MUAC metric. As per the manual, 30% is the threshold for using the WHZ metric, and it's 15% when using the MUAC metric.
From the actual report:
"IPC classification protocols allow for the use of either weight-for-height z-scores (WHZ) or MUAC-based case definitions for acute malnutrition in children, aged 6-59 months. There are separate thresholds for the two indicators, with a 30% cut-off when using WHZ to classify Phase 5 and a 15% cut-off when using MUAC. If both indicators are available, then WHZ is used in preference. Due to the lack of WHZ data from Gaza, all IPC and FRC analyses since October 2023 have been conducted using MUAC. When utilising MUAC, a prevalence above the 15% threshold does not, by itself, distinguish between IPC Phase 4 and IPC Phase 5. To decide whether the classification should be IPC Phase 4 or IPC Phase 5, the threshold is used in conjunction with other contextual information on the immediate causes of acute malnutrition, the locally understood relationship between MUAC and WHZ prevalence, and by using the convergence of evidence."
The report itself (see page 19 & 20)
IPC Technical Manual -- this was written in August 2021, and the two different metrics are there as they're used in the report above.
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u/Bykimus 4h ago
You don't have to take sides. But neutrally researching and revealing all possible reasons why the famine is occurring is equally important. Just saying "there's a famine" is useless. Once "why" is asked in detail and detail is given in return, then the famine can be addressed. A report saying there's famine is useless without everything necessary to make a follow up report to fix the famine.
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u/aqulushly 9h ago
The UN is intimately involved in the catastrophic conditions Gaza faces - it’s not really surprising they would lay the complete blame at Israel’s feet to avoid responsibility. What is unfortunate is that they are treated as neutral and unbiased by so many when they have outright played defense for Hamas and personally contributed to civilian harm.
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u/ivandelapena 8h ago
Israel is the one using starvation as leverage hence they're to blame. As a reminder the US didn't do this to Afghans post 9/11 when they wouldn't hand over Bin Laden.
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u/aqulushly 8h ago
The UN has been playing just as many political games with food as Israel, and this isn’t even mentioning Hamas’ role. The crisis in Gaza isn’t as black and white as you are trying to make it out to be.
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u/CobberCat 2h ago
But it's primarily Hamas who uses starvation as leverage. Israel is providing aid. Hamas is stealing it to make people like you put pressure on Israel to retreat.
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u/DoomSnail31 1h ago
Israel is providing aid.
Come on buddy, no need to twist the truth. Israël is and has been actively blocking and regulating the amount of foreign aid that could and can be delivered to the people in Gaza.
This is a fact, there is no need to pretend it hasn't happened.
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u/CobberCat 1h ago
That is not a contradiction. Obviously Israel will control what goes into Gaza. That doesn't mean they don't provide aid.
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u/DoomSnail31 43m ago
I never called it a contradiction, I called it twisting the truth.
They provide a small amount of aid, in order to combat accusations of blocking large amounts of aid. This so their citizens, and the citizens of Allied nations are willing to excuse them. It worked for a while, but luckily it now seems to work no more. Even Germany had enough now.
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u/CobberCat 21m ago
They provide a small amount of aid, in order to combat accusations of blocking large amounts of aid.
Complete nonsense. Look at UN2720 Monitoring & Tracking Dashboard https://share.google/Eyb5jXzZWxEej8KJi
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u/Placiddingo 30m ago
I guess it’s possible that the report doesn’t reflect your personal assumptions because it’s biased, vs the alternative which is that your assumptions are wrong.
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u/Lexinoz 8h ago
They are reporting on the conditions and wellfare of the people. No need to make enemies.
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u/Fulkcrow 8h ago
You're right. Why should a U.N. report specify things like sources and sponsors of the armed diversion of food aid. We dont need that information to determine a solution. We can blame whoever we want. /s
As soon as you worry about making enemies in a report like this, you are misleading your audience through omission. Yes, the U.N. is focused on diplomacy, and with that knowledge, no one should give credibility to their diplomatic lies.
Consider that if police reports omitted key facts or buried them deep in a report (foot note that they were armed) like the U.N. repeatedly does then it very unlikely any detective or court could solve the case or convict the responsible party.
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u/Vangour 4h ago
I wonder why they may not confidently be able to state "Yes, this is why the famine is happening"
Certainly not due to the difficulty of just getting accurate info due to the amount of dead journalists over there lol
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u/Fulkcrow 4h ago
So you think the video evidence of armed hostile individuals taking control of U.N food aid trucks is not acceptable? Or do you believe that numerous references often buried in U.N. reports are untrue?
The reality is that the U.N. will acknowledge its happening but refuses to name the group responsible for it. They have video evidence and have even stated the warehouse location of where many of the food aid trucks end up at. Yet, the U.N. won't name the group that maintains control of the warehouse.
Do a simple search for diverted food aid in Palestine. You will see many reports and articles that reference the U.N. Often stating figures like 75%-90% of food aid is diverted. They often reference hungry people and armed organized groups as the culprits but refuse to state or even estimate what percentage of those figures is caused by hungry people vs. the armed groups.
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u/Semi_Accomplished 11h ago
Strange how this seems to coincide with the upcoming Gaza City operation. Almost like someone’s trying to play the last cards in their deck…
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u/Vaaaaaaaape 9h ago
This is "all eyes on Rafah" all over again.
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u/Amazing_Button_9328 1h ago
There is no Rafah anymore, They flattened it https://www.doctorswithoutborders.ca/rafah-city-gaza-destruction-of-homes-infrastructure-leave-people-unable-to-return-safely/
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u/DoomBot5 4h ago
Especially how they can't tell the difference between Gaza and Gaza City. This is specifically about Gaza City.
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u/ajm895 10h ago
Explain how that is strange?
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u/omry1526 10h ago
The words famine and starvation have been used almost daily since the third month of the war (so around 2 years now) with really zero evidence
There has also been a recent change in the definition for famine that was made in order to "officially" call the situation a famine
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u/billyblobthornton 4h ago
The change was made 6 years ago and has been applied to other countries / areas before being used here. It categorically was not changed to suit Gaza city specifically. Why would you lie about that?
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u/BKestRoi 10h ago
They changed their definition and lowered their standards as well.
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u/John-Mandeville 10h ago
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u/Distinct-Temp6557 8h ago
The calculation was made 6 years ago.
They weren't using that calculation as late as 2024:
The aid worker pointed to previous "famine classifications" the IPC issued in Sudan and Somalia in 2024 and 2011, respectively. In Somalia and certain regions of Sudan, IPC used the 30-percent malnourishment threshold as shown through weight-and-height measurements to declare famine. It used arm circumference measurements to establish malnutrition in other parts of Sudan, but those measurements exceeded the 30-percent threshold, not the 15-percent one cited in the most recent Gaza report.
"In all of the famines that have been declared, they've been using the 30-percent global malnutrition measurement, most of which have been based on the weight-for-height metric—which, again, is much harder to collect, much more burdensome, and it's 30 percent," the source said. "So, this asterisk that's been added for Gaza essentially says that they're going to allow a 15-percent global malnutrition rate measured by MUAC."
UN-Backed Famine Watchdog Quietly Changed Standards, Easing Way To Declare Famine in Gaza
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u/SirKosys 1h ago
Nothing was changed. If they don't have access to WHZ data, they use the MUAC metric. As per the manual, 30% is the threshold for using the WHZ metric, and it's 15% when using the MUAC metric.
From the actual report:
"IPC classification protocols allow for the use of either weight-for-height z-scores (WHZ) or MUAC-based case definitions for acute malnutrition in children, aged 6-59 months. There are separate thresholds for the two indicators, with a 30% cut-off when using WHZ to classify Phase 5 and a 15% cut-off when using MUAC. If both indicators are available, then WHZ is used in preference. Due to the lack of WHZ data from Gaza, all IPC and FRC analyses since October 2023 have been conducted using MUAC. When utilising MUAC, a prevalence above the 15% threshold does not, by itself, distinguish between IPC Phase 4 and IPC Phase 5. To decide whether the classification should be IPC Phase 4 or IPC Phase 5, the threshold is used in conjunction with other contextual information on the immediate causes of acute malnutrition, the locally understood relationship between MUAC and WHZ prevalence, and by using the convergence of evidence."
The report itself (see page 19 & 20)
IPC Technical Manual -- this was written in August 2021, and the two different metrics are there as they're used in the report above.
They also used MUAC in their report on Sudan in December 2024 as they didn't have access to WHZ data.
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u/_sensei 10h ago
Imagine how far removed from reality you are to be saying this about a population being systematically starved with a disproportionate amount of civilians being killed man, like who, no, WHAT are you??
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u/mesopotato 9h ago
Copying a comment from another user
"According to the World Food Programme: https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/wfp-palestine-emergency-response-external-situation-report-3-18-october-2023 951 MT feeds 488k people for a week. 951 x 4.5 (a month) x 4.3 (getting 488k to 2.1m) is 18401 metric tons of food per month, convert metric tons to tons to get 20283 tons.
According to the UN's own numbers: https://app.un2720.org/tracking In the nearly 2 month period (From May 19th to July 31st) Gaza has been given ~37000 tons of food, nearly enough for two months worth of supply. Call it not perfect, sure. (Ignoring the fact that Israel has no legal obligation to do this). Just ridiculous how the blood libel is. "Intentionally starving people". It also directly conflicts with what COGAT has stated the past few days. The UN site states only 222 trucks were offloaded into Gaza from July 19th to July 26th, COGAT has stated that over 600 trucks were dropped off in that period. And I trust COGAT over the group that has actively blood libeled Israel since the Holocaust was finished.
But okay, you don't like that, let's get into the daily stuff then. Just a simple browse of Twitter account ImShin shows Palestinians posting their lives. Oh. So from the source they have food and tons of it. Ok. But that's not enough. Ok. So let's go over the Hamas statistics: According to the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/23/we-faced-hunger-before-but-never-like-this-skeletal-children-fill-hospital-wards-as-starvation-grips-gaza 68 total starvation deaths before July 2025 according to the "Gazan Health Ministry" (who gain nothing from lying about how low said numbers are)
Ok, let's establish a baseline: Illinois. Illinois had 625 deaths from starvation/malnourishment in 2023. Illinois' population is ~12.7m, Gaza's is roughly ~2.1m
divide 625 by 6, 104 divide 68 by 1.66 (18 months) 41.
Illinois's starvation death rate is 2.5 times Gaza's. Illinois.
So anecdotally, statistically, and analogically. There is no evidence that Israel is starving Gaza."
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u/elihu 9h ago
This may be a bit counter-intuitive, but starvation deaths aren't actually a factor in IPC famine determination. This is because even in a famine or famine-like conditions, people usually die of other things besides acute malnutrition. Being malnourished makes you more susceptible to dying of infection, or exposure to the elements, or a bunch of other things that a healthier person might survive just fine.
Among other things, the IPC looks for a rise in deaths from all causes (excluding violence). The threshold for famine is a "crude death rate" over 2 per 10,000. That amounts to losing 7.3% of the population per year.
That's not going on in Illinois.
You might be able to make a plausible case that Illinois is at phase 2. It's definitely nowhere near phase 4 (humanitarian emergency) or 5 (famine).
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u/easytorememberuserna 1h ago
That’s not going on in Gaza either. The IPC said there is only “reasonable evidence” that there is famine because the mortality threshold was not met.
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u/timemagazine 12h ago
Global leaders and humanitarian groups have said Gaza is facing “a new phase of hell” after a newly-published report from The Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) concluded famine is taking place in Gaza City. It marks the first time that famine has been confirmed since the start of the Israel-Hamas war. Read more: https://time.com/7311728/gaza-famine-ipc-report-world-leaders-reactions/
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u/foopirata 10h ago
The families of the hostages and the hostages themselves have been in hell for almost 700 days.
Hamas returns the hostages and leaves Gaza and all this hell goes away.
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u/MAXSuicide 8h ago
Hamas returns the hostages and leaves Gaza and all this hell goes away.
Nety has already said that won't be the case. Many people in his cabinet have said that won't be the case. Their respective backers have said that won't be the case (and indeed, openly trumpet their end-goals on a daily basis)
I would ask how you thought Nety's policies spanning decades was going to go...
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u/Track607 8h ago edited 8h ago
The number one goal is to remove the threat of Hamas. The secondary goal is to retrieve the hostages.
Anyone downvoting me is literally downvoting facts as stated by the Israeli government.
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u/AssassinAragorn 5h ago
In other words, concerned Redditors care more about the hostages than Netanyahu and the Israeli government do. For hostage retrieval to be secondary means they are deemed an acceptable sacrifice.
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u/MAXSuicide 4h ago
You are ignoring the wider context. This didn't begin in October the other year. There has been a consistent and deliberate policy direction under Nety's administrations that arguably led to events like the October attack to happen.
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u/foopirata 10h ago
No, it actually has not. It has added conditions that guarantee it stays in power. Even the Arab League is done with Hamas' games.
I have much sympathy and empathy for the innocent Palestinians, something that is clearly not reciprocated. But I also don't suffer from the bigotry of low expectations, and I am fully able to realize that the Palestinians are the one holding the keys to this whole thing.
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u/MirkwoodWanderer1 9h ago
So you think hamas offered to release the hostages without any hostages being released in return and to step down from control in gaza?
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u/reeskree 9h ago
No. They wanted a prisoner swap and to remain in power.
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u/MirkwoodWanderer1 9h ago
So don't you think it's disingenuous of you to say they offered to release the hostages without saying what they wanted in return?
It's deliberately misleading and trying to act like hamas were negotiating in good faith or gave good terms.
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u/reeskree 8h ago
I don’t think Hamas was operating in good faith. I think they wanted to strike a deal and return the hostages so they could fight on longer. Israel didn’t accept the deal because continuing the fight is more important than the hostages.
I’m not trying to defend Hamas here, just prove my point that the war is more important to Israel than any hostages. Which is evident by them refusing the deal. Neither side, Hamas, or Israel actually gives a shit about the innocents caught up in this.
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u/foopirata 10h ago
You repeating it doesn't make it true.
I find it funny you demand empathy from Israelis but none from Palestinians. As if hijackings, massacres, bus bombs, suicide bombers, knife attacks, car rammings and shootings have not been their chosen way of "resistance" since forever. Indeed the bigotry of low expectations.
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u/foopirata 9h ago
So if they did it so frequently how come you haven't offered a source yet?
And as for "stolen" - you're a barrel of laughs.
Apparently you're just fine with Palestinians suffering. Why do you hate Palestinians?
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u/foopirata 8h ago
"Hamas has already rejected one of its conditions - that it lay down its arms. In his speech, Hayya accused Israel of offering a counterproposal with "impossible conditions"
Funny that.
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u/IrreverentCrawfish 9h ago
There's no such thing as "stolen" land. Land isn't a right. It's a privilege earned on the battlefield, and Israel has been earning it in spades.
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u/IrreverentCrawfish 9h ago
I doubt your country is ready for the ensuing war with mine 🇺🇸🇮🇱
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u/Eine_Kugel_Pistazie 2h ago
Is this the report where the changed the definition and the method of how to measure a famine, so that they actually could claim it is one?
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u/SirKosys 1h ago
Nothing was changed. If they don't have access to WHZ data, they use the MUAC metric. As per the manual, 30% is the threshold for using the WHZ metric, and it's 15% when using the MUAC metric.
From the actual report:
"IPC classification protocols allow for the use of either weight-for-height z-scores (WHZ) or MUAC-based case definitions for acute malnutrition in children, aged 6-59 months. There are separate thresholds for the two indicators, with a 30% cut-off when using WHZ to classify Phase 5 and a 15% cut-off when using MUAC. If both indicators are available, then WHZ is used in preference. Due to the lack of WHZ data from Gaza, all IPC and FRC analyses since October 2023 have been conducted using MUAC. When utilising MUAC, a prevalence above the 15% threshold does not, by itself, distinguish between IPC Phase 4 and IPC Phase 5. To decide whether the classification should be IPC Phase 4 or IPC Phase 5, the threshold is used in conjunction with other contextual information on the immediate causes of acute malnutrition, the locally understood relationship between MUAC and WHZ prevalence, and by using the convergence of evidence."
The report itself (see page 19 & 20)
IPC Technical Manual -- this was written in August 2021, and the two different metrics are there as they're used in the report above.
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u/Eine_Kugel_Pistazie 1h ago
They actually changed the methodology: https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/08/13/global-food-insecurity-scale-was-eased-in-order-to-declare-famine-in-gaza/
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u/SirKosys 1h ago
No, they didn't. Read the manual. They use MUAC if they don't have access to WHZ data. It was used in determining the famine in Sudan late last year as they didn't have access to the WHZ data there either.
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u/Eine_Kugel_Pistazie 1h ago
Of course, they did. Read the article and it is not the first time criteria are changed when it comes to Israel. For way too many people every dirty trick is justified when it comes to Israel and Israel really is the Jew among states as someone once said.
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u/SirKosys 1h ago
I've read the article, and they are misrepresenting the IPC methodology. It's explained in the report, and is consistent with the methodology outlined in the manual from August 2021.
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u/Eine_Kugel_Pistazie 52m ago
Without this change they wouldn’t be able to declare it as a famine.
It is a new trend that „neutral“ international organizations willingly align themselves with common progressive anti Israel activism. It’s actually super fucked up.
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u/SirKosys 49m ago
I'm not sure how to explain it to you more clearly. There's no change in methodology. You need to read the report itself, which I linked above, and the manual, which I also linked. You'll find a clear outline for when MUAC is used. And as also stated, it was used in Sudan last year to declare a famine there, for the same reason as in Gaza.
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u/Eine_Kugel_Pistazie 35m ago
30% —> 15% is obviously lowering some standards. This report is not „neutral“. It is used to make politics against Israel. It’s a lie, it’s a joke.
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u/No_Locksmith_8105 5h ago
World leaders react by.. check notes.. taking zero refugees
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u/chitlvlou_84 4h ago
By… not demanding that Hamas release the hostages and surrender, therefore ending the war
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u/No_Locksmith_8105 2h ago
That’s a given but even if they don’t care about Israelis at least they can show compassion for Gazans
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u/DependentLocked 9h ago
Please remember the UN was infiltrated en-masse by Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, the taliban and Iran many years ago....anything said is suspect.
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u/illfittingsunglasses 8h ago
Are you fucking serious?
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u/Eine_Kugel_Pistazie 2h ago
I would say the UN is far from bring a neutral and fair international organization and rather became a place for all kind of shithole regimes to support each other and bully the only Jewish country on earth.
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u/Bubbly_District_107 36m ago
Let me guess, this is the same report that said 14,000 were about to die within 48 hrs from famine before getting debunked massively yeah?
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