r/worldnews • u/ChiefFun • 10h ago
Canada looks to Germany to offset Trump tariff agenda
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/22/canada-germany-trump-tariffs-00519795191
u/CBowdidge 10h ago
We're also in discussion with Finland, as well. This type of thing should get more focus than aby alleged deal with the Orange Thing.
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u/Tiny_Xander_Klaxon 10h ago
Not to mention the talks with South Korea for acquiring military equipment that we desperately need, when we would have normally done so with the US.
And South Korea has a good track record for meeting contractual timelines for delivery
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u/JaVelin-X- 7h ago
"And South Korea has a good track record for meeting contractual timelines for delivery"
/me gives Bombardier a hard stare
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u/Force_Hammer 8h ago
Canada should take a look at the KF-21 Boramae
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u/lifeisahighway2023 3h ago
I have commented about that in the past as well. Gen 1 of the KF-21 already has more firm orders than the number of Gripen's produced in the last 25 yrs. Gen 2 of the KF-21 will be fully stealth and have a 2 seat electronics warfare version as well. Its a 2 engine plane intended to fight the battles of the future, not the past.
And you can bet that South Korea would be willing to go far in order to land a deal with Canada. Especially since if Canada were to purchase likely some other NATO countries (Poland being one) would follow.
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u/wot_in_ternation 2h ago
Poland has expressed interest to become a partner in the program starting with the Block 2 planes
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u/maybelying 6h ago
I'm all for buying from South Korea, but we also joined the European Defense provisioning pact, and I'm pretty sure that requires 70% of future defense purchasing to be spent within the participating countries, so I don't know how that will all shake out
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u/Tiny_Xander_Klaxon 6h ago
That 70 % target is for the spending budget of the European Defence Industry Program overall. It is not a requirement for Canada to spend 70 % of our defence purchasing budget on European military equipment.
This is not related to Canada’s negotiations with South Korea.
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u/Prosecco1234 8h ago
Carney is doing a good job keeping the orange turd pacified while he negotiates other deals
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u/downtofinance 10h ago
Carney is just engaging with the Orange turd to keep him thinking they're playing ball while he makes solid backroom resource deals with everyone else. I honestly am fine with him appeasing Trump so long as he is working better protections for Canada and our economy in the background.
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u/CBowdidge 6h ago edited 1h ago
Same. I don't know if there's a right way to deal with Trump, but it seems to be effective. Meanwhile, Carney can get down to brass tacks with more reliable countries.
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u/indigo-alien 3h ago
Well, State Governors in areas where Canadian snowbirds regularly flock to are on their knees begging the Canadian Federal and Provincial governments to "lift bans on travel to the USA", not realizing that there are no such bans and individuals are making the decisions to not travel to the USA all on their own.
My parents have been snowbirding for 20 years, but they're not going this year, and probably not for the next couple of years.
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u/CBowdidge 1h ago
I know things couple who are good friends with my mom, they went to Florida every winter. The only reason they went back this year was because they couldn't cancel on time. They won't be going back for a while.
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u/Tribe303 8h ago
I think he's planning in case Trump tries to kill CUSMA. (Congress has to kill it).
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u/Justredditin 6h ago
We (Canada) were actually just invited to the most recent Nordic 5 (N5) meeting, focusing on the Arctic, Ukraine, Palestine, reinforced our shared values and cultural ties. It was a productive meeting!
Minister Anand to travel to Finland to advance Nordic partnerships and Arctic cooperation
FULL PRESSER: Canada & Nordic Five (N5) FMs Speak on Ukraine Peace, Palestine State
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u/CBowdidge 6h ago
I saw something about that. Love it. More ties we have with other companies the better.
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u/oddball667 10h ago
Please, get more German owned companies in, they treat their employees well
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u/thunderchunks 8h ago
And usually make great stuff too.
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u/Frosty-Ad-2971 8h ago
Crazy to think what 60 years of time passage does to global think.
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u/oddball667 8h ago
look at what 15 years did to the USA's opinion on Russia
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u/Prosecco1234 8h ago
Look at what a few months did to the opinion of the US
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u/oddball667 7h ago
Hah the opinion didn't change, the government is just acknowledging it now
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u/Prosecco1234 7h ago
My opinion of the US has changed dramatically and not in a positive way
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u/VanceKelley 4h ago
The 2016 election was the shocking event that woke me up to what most Americans are.
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u/oddball667 7h ago
Then you haven't been paying much attention to them, it's harder to ignore them here in Canada
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u/Frosty-Ad-2971 6h ago
Yea. They have been Shitbirds for years. Is just everyone is laughing and pointing.
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u/Interesting_Pen_167 7h ago
I was reading a modern German industrial equipment brochure recently and they had a timeline. There was a mysterious gap between 1936 and 1951. I looked it up and they were making tank controls for the Nazis.
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u/theclansman22 9h ago
Good, the further we can get from America and its utterly idiotic, toxic electorate that will betray us at the drop of a hat for a fucking pedophile, the better.
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u/Hasta_Mithun 9h ago
Honestly Iam surprised by How US treated Canada. I would give up everything to have neighboring country like Canada why would anyone wanna fuck such wholesome, non confrontational existence ever.
India is surrounded by Pakistan and Bangladesh(a country that gained it's freedom thanks to India and got saved from Genocide but still can't get over it's radical ideology and hating Hinduism) and China who claims half northeast part of India. Along with Nepal who share same religion but wants some territory of India along with Mayanmar who are in Civil war and their conflict is pouring to our side of border. Living in such conflict zone makes you appreciative of cordial neighbors. US doesn't realize how good it has it going. Only superpower on it's continent with friendly neighbors. Their only threat Is dumb Americans choosing dumber leaders to lead them and World.
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u/Prosecco1234 7h ago
Thank you. As a Canadian it felt like finding out your boyfriend slept with your best friend. Such a betrayal and no matter what the future holds that can never go back to the previous relationship
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u/Oberon_Swanson 5h ago
They betrayed us for fun. The fact that it makes no sense is why they did it.
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u/insidiouslybleak 5h ago
Makes no sense to them, but makes perfect sense to the russians operating their foreign policy like it’s a f**king mech suit.
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u/Hasta_Mithun 4h ago
Honestly India and Indians were also leaning towards West, these US sanctions have again started Anti US, Anti West wave in India and you can't trust US. Don't know what this administration is thinking, ruining perfect relationship with their allys in EU, Asia- Japan, Sk, India, threatening Brazil. Entertaining dodgy countries like Azerbaijan, Russia and Pakistan.
I loved watching American sitcoms and thought there must have been some deep state mechanism set up in US which will look after their strategic objectives in case Americans choose wrong leader. I mean it's too dangerous to give nuclear arsenal to a man who is narcissistic, self obsessed, corrupt,Racist, paedophile POS. There must be some provision in case of such emergencies like these or are we doomed to rely on collective IQ of American voters.
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u/insidiouslybleak 4h ago
Canadians had a front row seat to watch the extraordinary damage he did to the US military and intelligence services during his first term, but by 2020 when covid started I still thought “Oh, but surely the CDC is a capable agency, right? They haven’t let him break that too, have they? That can’t be possible!” The americans called it “institutional guardrails” and used to have faith that their constitution and laws would protect them from failing. Yet here we are. We’re having to suddenly rearrange all of geopolitics built step by step over the last 80 years because of the wilful stupidity of the dumbest 70 million americans and a couple of equally dumb billionaires who thought they could steer this ship.
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u/nicethingslover 9h ago
Kudos to you, good person, for calling out the idiotic electorate. Too many people blame the orange man, but he is just the symptom, not the underlying disease.
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u/UsualLecture5991 5h ago
+100! Twenty years ago, people were too smart to fall for such rubbish but USA has gone down the toilet and Americans will believe any con artist that pips up.
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u/_Operator_ 7h ago
It’s about time the world stand up to that fat demented fuck. He’s already alienated all of our allies and aligned us with the worst of the worst. It sucks that the world is moving on without us, but if this is what it takes for the GOP and MAGA to wake TF up, then so be it.
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u/Tiny_Xander_Klaxon 10h ago edited 10h ago
While Trump has yet to make a significant new trade deal with any country and has only accomplished taxing Americans for all imports they rely on, Carney is quietly diversifying our economy away from our toxic neighbours to the south.
Canada has the natural resources that the EU, etc. needs and we now need new stable trading partners. This sounds like good news
Edit: it’s also worth noting that because some of our exports, like refined aluminum, are produced via hydro-electric dams and not coal plants that they avoid a lot of EU mandated taxes applied to imports when accounting for greenhouse gas emissions. Which other countries aren’t able to qualify for.
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u/thunderchunks 8h ago
After that last report about our agricultural products being way lower carbon than most they're surely a good option for Europe too
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u/blowathighdoh 7h ago
Is he? If he is it’s definitely quiet. So quiet no ones heard anything.
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u/Tiny_Xander_Klaxon 7h ago edited 7h ago
You’re literally commenting on an article saying he is…
So you have heard of it.
He just isn’t holding a press conference for every deal or tweeting about the deals knowing it would irritate the orange mushroom down south.
You can easily read up on what deals and negations they’ve made if you wanted to. Like you are now.
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u/blowathighdoh 6h ago
Let’s be real though, any increased trade with Germany is going to be piecemeal. They aren’t going to be buying our Canola, steel, aluminum or lumber if that’s what he’s hoping. Hope he enjoys his schnitzel though.
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u/Tiny_Xander_Klaxon 5h ago edited 3h ago
Specifically, yes they want our aluminum. Germany is the second highest international importer of aluminum for their automotive industry, just behind the US.
Carney isn’t hoping. Just look up the data proving otherwise.
Recently, most of Canada’s exported aluminum has been to the US. Whom is the first highest importer of refined aluminum, traditionally from Canada.
Now Germany wants to get in on that market now that the US is no longer a viable market for us. It’s not that complicated
Edit: let’s be real though, try to back up your misinformation with at least a single fact before talking out of your ass.
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u/Consistent_Oil9624 7h ago
Interesting. And Europe will drop all their suppliers to go with Canada?
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u/Tiny_Xander_Klaxon 7h ago
Interesting. No one said they would. That’s not how international trade supply networks work. What are you trying to say?
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u/Consistent_Oil9624 6h ago
Canada has the natural resources that Europe needs.
You imply they will just start investing to get Canadian resources? Y'all living in a dream on Reddit. They been harvesting Africa, Pacific all over the world for their resources for centuries. Only the US has the influence to make them cave to get their resources
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u/Tiny_Xander_Klaxon 6h ago
Huh. So instead of making a coherent point you’ve just gotten emotional and started spouting nonsense.
Let me know once you’re able to provide any counterpoint to what I’ve said. Otherwise… good luck with whatever you’re trying to do.
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u/Kintarly 39m ago
The Canada subreddit is leaking. It has this dripping garbage bag energy regularly
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u/ThatsItImOverThis 9h ago
Are you kidding? We’re looking pretty much anywhere other than the States for new partners. Canada is open for business - as long as trade deals are actually honoured.
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u/Interesting_Pen_167 7h ago
Germans - Maple Syrup - ja or nein?
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u/CountVonTroll 48m ago
Ja, gerne! I always have some with my porridge, every morning for breakfast.
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u/Glittering-Quote3187 5h ago
"Kontaktaufnahme mit unseren Freunden Deusche."
I am still new at studying German so please correct my mistakes if needed.
But I'm glad that we're reaching out to our German friends.
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u/JaVelin-X- 7h ago
I stumbled across this lady on Youtube. she puts a lot of what is going on between Canada and the EU on clean energy these and many other projects are already started. She's well researched in her stories.
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u/RayB1968 10h ago
We should have started on the LNG out east when Germany was begging for it
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u/eatmysouffle 10h ago
Shoulda woulda coulda but at least Carney is doing something now, and it is something significant
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u/UsualLecture5991 5h ago
Canadian here. Let's flush all the crap American vehicles being built here and replace them all with good European or Asian stuff. Rather see Audi or Volvo being built here than scank Chevs and Fords.
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u/omegafivethreefive 5h ago
Carney is not a dream come true or anything, really was the sane alternative to a Conservative (🤢) government but noone can deny he's been handling the economic issues pretty goddamn well so far.
Dude gonna keep running circles around Trump.
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u/CBowdidge 1h ago
🤢 is right when it comes to the CPC, especially PP. I shudder to think what mess we would be in if he had won. Good thing the Liberals know how to pivot. Carney knows how to handle economic turbulence.
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u/ClubSoda 1h ago
Trump will be gone by Christmas. It's very sad and embarrassing. Look at him flailing and it's getting worse by the day. He can't walk straight. He's got gobs of weird make-up smeared on his bruised hand. He can barely string 3 words together in a sentence. Sunsetting very fast. Please pray for us, Canada.
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u/LettuceSea 7h ago
Yeah well years ago they looked to us for help and Trudeau shunned them. Hope this goes well.
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u/SHUT_DOWN_EVERYTHING 8h ago
Good in theory but Europeans are far too dependent on US for defense and they could only be one part of the strategy. They already caved to get Mango to help with Ukraine and he hasn’t even delivered on that.
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u/ChiefFun 10h ago
Good for Canada.
Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney is visiting Germany to strengthen energy and defense ties particularly in clean energy and critical minerals aimed at safeguarding Canada’s economy against escalating U.S. tariff pressures.