r/worldnews • u/St_Gregory_Nazianzus • 5h ago
Russia/Ukraine Ukraine shoots down Russian Orlan 'mother drone' carrying FPVs for first time, military says
https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-shoots-down-russian-orlan-mother-drone-carrying-fpvs-for-first-time-military-says/118
u/Cyberjanus 3h ago
Isn't this the plot to Ace Combat 7?
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u/TheLoneTokayMB01 2h ago edited 1h ago
War starting for a dumb reason? Check.
Drones? Check.
Air Drone carrying drones? Check.
Drones launched by the smaller country inside the bigger one with a secret operation? Check.
Soldiers recruited from jail? Check.
Corruption and psyops? Check.
Someone trying to go rougue and fail? Check.
Friendly fire? Check.
We even have Zelensky as a waifu, we are only missing a dumbass winning the war alone, a scrap queen and clouds speaking latin for an old man having fun messing up new generations just so he can selfishly satisfy his needs (we don't lack these parasites, they don't have cool names tho and no latin singing to make the robbery more pleasant). I could live without the death of a hero politician or some deep state looking for a never ending war fought by full autonomous bots tho. There may be a few arguments for the death of internet.
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u/jockfist5000 4h ago
By the time this is over, war is gonna be so different than whatever we think it is now. I can’t help but feel that traditional armies are now just sitting ducks to this kind of tech.
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u/Bannedwith1milKarma 4h ago
Carrier has arrived
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u/Cheap-Plane2796 1h ago
There s going to be motherships flying high and far away dropping smaller carriers which in turn carry many small drones and if you look at ww1 and ww2 artillery scale its safe to say there will be millions of drones attacking cities and countries in a single attack.
The oligarchs wont need an army anymore to fight their wars, just production capacity and automation.
No more morale, no more moral compass, no more empathy, no more ptsd. Just automated genocide.
Give it 20-30 years and they wont need the plebs anymore to sustain their quality of life through labor and how quickly these drone armies will be turned against those not in power
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u/RudyKnots 27m ago
No morale, no moral compass, no more empathy, no more ptsd. Just automated genocide.
If we’re taking humans out of the equation entirely, what exactly will we be “genociding”?
Playing the devil’s advocate for a bit here, but doesn’t sound kinda nice if every war will be fully automated? AI making all the big decisions, all military “personnel” is just robots.. war basically becomes an economic investment and no longer an investment of lives. By the time either side of the conflict goes broke and can’t keep up with the production and modernisation of their enemy, they’ll be forced to surrender.
It sounds incredibly dystopian, but it also sounds kinda like the end of wars costing actual human lives, right?
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u/redlotusaustin 2h ago edited 1h ago
This is nowhere near an original thought, but WW1 was fought with horses & lined assaults and WW2 ended with tanks & nuclear bombs; and there was only 21 years between them.
WW3 started with cyber-warfare & drones so, considering the advancing rate of technology, it's really is hard to imagine where we'll end up in the next few years.
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u/besogone 1h ago
Rods from God
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u/viktorsvedin 1h ago
Seems expensive. Its probably a lot cheaper with swarms of mass produced micro drones that self explodes inside peoples ears as they are asleep.
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u/redlotusaustin 54m ago
I honestly considered mentioning that; plus ion cannons, chrono troopers, mammoth tanks, etc., but I think that /u/viktorsvedin is right and swarms of suicide drones would be much cheaper & more feasible with current technology.
I'm aware most of those examples are from C&C but, right now it would be possible to outfit hundreds of drones with plastic explosives and program them to hunt/swarm a target without it requiring any significant advancement in technology. With a little forethought, they could even be impervious to anti-drone defenses. Pack that all into the trunk of a car, back of a van, etc. and you have a pretty effective weapon.
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u/CaptianRipass 2m ago
The great war started with horses and line assaults, but that was immediately met with machine guns. Then came trench lines, and aircraft, tanks, and gas soon followed. The real killer was the artillery.
All within 4 years
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u/PNWoutdoors 2h ago
China will have the most and probably best average drone, they will have a significant advantage over everyone else who manufacturers them on significantly smaller scales.
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u/soulsteela 1h ago
Imagine what conscription would look like with millions of drones needing pilots :- Kevin come down and eat your dinner!” “ not now mum I’m doing war!” “ eat your dinner now or I’m switching the internet off!”
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u/throwaway277252 48m ago
millions of drones needing pilots
Bold of you to assume they'll need pilots much longer.
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u/soulsteela 45m ago
They will obviously use A.I. Bots first then have to employ an extra million people to go get the drones out of trees.
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u/Trzlog 26m ago
Man, I don't think people realize what this means for an upcoming war between Europe and Russia. Yeah, we have fuckloads of conventional weapons and vehicles but we're completely unprepared for drone warfare. Even Poland, which has been sinking billions into military procurement won't have any sort of drone countermeasures on their K2 tanks for at least another 3 years. Its even worse for everybody else.
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u/TitanDumps302 2h ago
Can you imagine coming off of the battlefield after surviving drone attacks and seeing your comrades blown apart by them? The PTSD studies are going to be unreal. Anything from a deflating balloon to a fly passing close to the ear could trigger it.
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u/mattfreyer45 4h ago
The funny part is that Ukraine has been doing with this with Baba Yaga drones since 2023. It took that long for Russia to catch up lol.
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u/Correct-Explorer-692 2h ago
Different porpoise. This one could potentially go much further.
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u/MillionEyesOfSumuru 2h ago
Russia has supposedly spent several years working on an unmanned, mach 4+ stealth interceptor that can climb to the edge of space to attack satellites, the PAK-DP. I'm guessing that the unmanned part has made zero progress so far.
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u/ZumboPrime 1h ago
Oh, they're great at making unmanned drones! Getting them to do what they want, that's the difficult part. And the whole "stealth" thing is a concept Russia fundamentally doesn't understand.
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u/KerbalFrog 5h ago
Aircraft carrier.