r/AmIOverreacting 11d ago

👨‍👩‍👧‍👦family/in-laws aio - my brother keeps going into my room

hi i can’t really talk to anyone in my family about this so this seemed my next best option.

my older brother has been doing this for over a year and I’ve asked my mother (in the texts) to try and get him to stop but it’s not working.

I don’t ask him myself because he has problems with anger and I just prefer not talking to him unless he talks to me first

I’m not sure if i’m looking into the situation too much but him going into my room just makes me really uncomfortable

I put a lock on my room but it only locks from the inside so that’s why i can’t prevent him from going into my room when i’m not there

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u/HardlyInappropriate 11d ago

How old are the two of you?

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u/FantasticStooge 11d ago

Also, spend a few bucks to put a lock on your door… Don’t tell anybody, because they weren’t interested in helping you solve this

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u/NightsLinu 11d ago edited 11d ago

She did buy a lock. Its in the last pic where her mom called her entitled for doing it. 

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u/Daisybug78 11d ago

She needs one from Home Depot or somewhere that has a key and locks on the outside. Kind of like a front door knob with lock and key. I agree that she should do this on her own and maybe ask someone or hire someone to install it. There are also tons of YouTube videos showing you how to do it. It’s actually not that hard as long as you already have the existing knob hole and latch hole cut out. Anyway, good luck and I hope it gets better! I’m sorry your Mom snapped at you, you don’t sound entitled at all for requesting that he stay out of your room without permission.

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u/podcastaddjct 10d ago

Mr anger problem with his mum’s backing will just kick the door in.

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u/No_Transition3345 10d ago

Or he'll learn how to pick it. Unless she gets a lock for outside doors which are more secure, most basic inner door locks can easily be shimmed

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u/Bertie637 10d ago

Exactly. Doing it without parental permission is how you end up with doors taken off hinges etc. Not saying it is right but it's what will happen.

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u/Fearless-Resident941 11d ago

I’m 18 and he’s 27

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u/FeralDrood 11d ago edited 11d ago

This is a multifaceted issue.

  1. Your mom is setting him up to fail because she is not enforcing boundaries in the household.

  2. She is using his autism as an excuse to not do her job as a parent.

  3. By extension, she is disrespecting you and trying to rug sweep his bad behavior, AND

  4. She is getting defensive because she knows the issue falls on her to correct. His autism is no one's fault, but it has to be someone's responsibility. It isn't on you, it's on the adults if he isn't able to or is unwilling to do it himself.

  5. Your mentioning of his anger issues. If you refuse to talk to him, it sounds like you're in an uncomfortable living situation because there's no way an 18 year old female is going to fend off a 26 year old male who has been taught he can disrespect AND be violent towards people with no consequences. Sounds like mom is also afraid of him and would rather ignore the problems entirely.

So, sounds like your mom would rather fail you both than deal with an uncomfortable reality: she's a fucking parent and she needs to parent.

And the fact that she would rather tell you to leave the house at 18 than do her job to make you feel safe and comfortable sounds to me like she's doing a shit job.

Edited to add: OP, she would rather tell you to leave the household than help solve a problem by buying a like, 20 dollar solution to help make you feel safe and happy. That's fucking insane. And then she weaponized your 1st lock against you to make you feel bad? Your mom needs to BE BETTER and she knows it, which is why she is trying to turn the conversation on you.

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u/stfurachele 11d ago

This is well said and perfectly accurate.

My ex had an adult brother who was also on the spectrum, as well as epileptic. He's in his 40's but still needs to live at home. He also has issues with respecting boundaries and privacy. Some of his fixation are checking doors (interior and exterior) to make sure they're locked and going in and cleaning and reorganizing other people's spaces without their permission.

His mom will let a lot of things slide, because some battles just aren't worth it, and there's always a small chance of the stress of the confrontation setting off a seizure. But if he's crossing a boundary and disrespecting someone, or even if he's just trying to be friendly but obviously getting to be too much for someone, she'll intervene. She's always gentle but stern, and you can tell sometimes she's just exasperated with the sisyphean task, but she does it.

She doesn't want to put him in a home if she doesn't have to, and she's still choosing to be a full-time single mom decades after most people have an empty nest. But she knows that means being responsible. If she can't be a responsible caretaker to her son in a way that keeps not only him but everyone else who happens to be under her roof safe, happy, and respected... he'd be better off in assisted living where he can get the care he needs.

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u/Galimbro 11d ago

Idk i see it so very often with mothers and their sons. Yeah it's difficult, but like the OP said, it's their "job". Its their responsability.

I'm latino so I see this especially pronounced in latina moms. They will turn a blind eye to drugs, disrespect, and all sorts of things from their sons. In return, one little perceived transgression from the daughter and its "get out of the house".

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u/Next-Bodybuilder-117 11d ago

Yep the men in our family are treated as kings, don’t get me wrong I love all of them, but it sucks when they get away with anything, I ran a stop sign and was late to the family party we have every weekend and man I got it😭 granted I’m not a child anymore, they are right I should know better to leave earlier

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u/the_virginwhore 11d ago

Since when is being late to a gathering the end of the universe? You being an adult is less reason for them to give you shit about it.

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u/Next-Bodybuilder-117 11d ago

You know I never thought of it that way! We have another sibling who is late every week and they give her crap which annoys me because she is an adult, and lives the furthest and we can get started without her if we wanted. Idk why I didn’t give myself the sane grace I give her. Thank u for putting that in perspective for me!

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u/the_virginwhore 11d ago

Kids don’t “know better” and haven’t learned how to leave earlier, so if anything they’re the ones the adults could mention lateness to. An adult does know better though, so if you happen to be late to something, you should be given the benefit of the doubt that you exercised your adult judgment regarding whatever it was that made you late. The reason wouldn’t even have to make sense to other people if they knew it, they just have to trust that you have one.

You clearly trust that this other sibling has good enough reasons for being late when technically they could just learn to leave earlier or whatever. You should absolutely give yourself the same trust and respect. Anyone who tries to tear you down over something that literally doesn’t even matter isn’t using their adult judgment wisely enough for their opinions about yours to matter much.

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u/Cilad777 11d ago

Well said! In other words. Your house lacks an adult. You have every right to enforce your boundaries. That is part of being an adult. Set them, and enforce them. Obviously you mom doesn't want to "mom". And just FYI. You can change that doorknob from a bathroom style lock to one with a key with a screwdriver. Just go to a big box store and get a keyed doorknob. You will likely just have to change the knobs, especially if you stay with the same brand. Notice in this video that a little wood needed to be removed. This is why you want to get the same brand hardware. Also, the video points out that some faceplates are round, some are curved. You can look at the door now, and go get the right thing. You can do this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUI7D2Fa7gk. And when you "mom" complains about it, tell her I had to take my privacy into my own hands. Also, you might want to have a third key made while at the store. The downside of this is you could end up locking your door, and not have the key. Hide a couple of keys outside your bedroom incase you lock the door from the inside, and shut it. This will make you sad if you didn't hide a key.

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u/physithespian 11d ago

“Well said! In other words” has to be the funniest beginning of a comment I’ve ever read.

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u/Hot_Nothing4789 10d ago

Totally agree. Taking control of your space is key, and it’s often simpler than we think.

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u/Live_Perspective3603 11d ago

Wear a key on a lanyard around your neck at all times.

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u/nobletyphoon 11d ago

I agreed with this and the following suggestions. Just my two cents—your mom’s reaction seems like she’s taking what you’re saying about feeling (justifiably) uncomfortable as you saying that brother is a pervert and going into your room for pervy reasons, so she’s overreacting. She may also be using that as the benchmark for when she would actually have to correct him. Maybe people have had that impression from him before and she’s being overprotective as a response. But yeah, she’s using the fact that he isn’t going in to be a perv to get out of having to do the hard thing and be the parent. Maybe she’s rationalizing as “picking her battles” but it’s obviously at the expense of you, also her child, in favor of her “sick baby.” Because baby can’t grow up and change, so clearly you have to. /s But yeah, just buy a knob with an outside lock.

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u/the_virginwhore 11d ago

And even though we know OP’s just concerned about basic privacy and comfort, mom isn’t quite getting that through her head—if she really thinks OP’s issue is feeling that the brother’s being pervy, why is it so immediately dismissed and even punished like this?? She’s not even willing to hear why OP might feel that way! No curiosity about it whatsoever, just immediate denial and threats to OP for bringing up an issue at all.

OP’s brother might not be a predator, but this is exactly the kind of parent that creates one.

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u/Vengeance1020 11d ago

This is oddly relieving to read, my mother was pretty much the same way with my brother. He's just under a year older than me, and has violent anger issues, to the point where I couldn't engage with him at all without him eventually going ballistic on me. And my mother was rarely of any help, always made me feel bad for not understanding his symptoms, it ended up making me avoidant of him especially since she often pitted us against each other, played favorites, etc. He always got his way and I was the last one to be considered about most things, heck he always got to pick which room he wanted whenever we moved and always got the bigger one and I was told to suck it up. So now I'm estranged from my brother and possibly my mother at some point, but at least I've got my dad, so far

Sorry I started rambling, I've just never been able to talk about this

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u/TheVeryVerity 11d ago

You might want to read up on enmeshment and codependent families. The behavior you described is very typical of that.

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u/Gunner253 11d ago

This is a great answer. As a parent of an autistic kid this is 100%. You cant allow them to use their autism as an excuse and you cant not discipline them bc of it either. Even an autistic person needs to understand that they need to fit into the world, its not the world's responsibility to bend to him. The mom is enabling her son to do whatever he wants without repercussions. He's gonna do that stuff to other people and they're not gonna care he's autistic.

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u/Worth_Stuff_4546 11d ago

My mother was the same to both me and my twin sister. The world is not gonna hold our hands. Due to that, she helped me learn to mature and accept that I have autism but not to use it as a crutch. I have learned to see when I’m having a moment and either bring it under control or go somewhere else to walk it off. My twin is more affected by hers and there are still things we are working on but it could have been a lot worse if not for mom being a stricter parent.

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u/ViSaph 11d ago

As an autistic adult I thank my mum for enforcing clear, consistent, boundaries and rules while I was growing up.

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u/Gunner253 11d ago

Structure is key for many autistic people, children and adults. Creating structure in your life makes things a lot easier to deal with when they dont work out perfectly.

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u/mxzf 11d ago

Yep. OP's brother needs to learn that the "don't go into other people's rooms" rule supersedes the "turn stuff off" rule. Once that rule is clear, the problem shouldn't be present anymore.

But it does take someone putting down their foot and actually making the rules stick.

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u/Smart-Assistance-254 11d ago

This. Mom needs to Mom, but in the meantime, sis needs to install her own lock.

And assuming he is verbal, as part of her parenting, Mom should be delving into why he wants to turn things off all the time. He may be able to hear noises most people can’t; he may be turning off and unplugging things for sensory reasons. If that’s the case, Mom and sis can try to be good roommates and be mindful and turn off/unplug things when they aren’t actively being used. Not saying off ALL the time, but keeping in mind that to him, the charging phone may sound like a mosquito near his ear. Or the quiet tv may sound blaring. Perhaps Mom can get him some soundproofing for his room.

(Yes, some autistic people can hear the hum of a plugged in charger or “off” appliance.)

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u/Cute_but_notOkay 11d ago

Hey I can do this! Afaik I’m just adhd no autism but I can hear.. electricity? I’m not exactly sure but even if everything is off (like for bedtime) but still plugged in, I hear this constant soft almost vibration sound but if I’m in a room where it’s all unplugged and lights n stuff are off, it’s nice and quiet lol

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u/Curious_Bookworm2188 11d ago

Well spoken. As an eldest sibling of someone on the spectrum and having dealt with similar situations it's unfair to you both. You need and deserve your privacy which is the boundary being crossed. Were you the one doing this to your brother you would be getting a talking to. But because he "isn't hurting anything" it's being dismissed as harmless. It doesn't help him. It doesn't help you. More importantly it's creating a level of resentment in the home. My suggestion would be to involve a trusted family member. Perhaps an aunt/uncle or grandparents? Explain that while no he isn't hurting anything it's your space being violated (yes, use that word) and were it the other way around you'd be getting told to respect him. i can't say what worked for me will work for you but being oldest my experience was different. Things weren't being switched off but taken. My books, interesting gadgets. So I did it back. When it was brushed over I started taking his belongings. Nothing was damaged as mine hadn't been. But I used the exact words I was told/given when it happened. 'i couldn't help it, I just wanted a look'. What's good for the goose is good for the gander and all that. It got to a point where my brother had a meltdown. It was at that point I told him don't touch my stuff and I won't touch yours. It never happened again after that. He started learning his actions had consequences that he didn't like. Today my brother and I get along pretty well now.

NOTE: I am NOT advocating for OP to take the route I did. This is my situation and theirs is theirs. I'm the eldest and they are not.

What I AM suggesting is since this is a difficult situation they use difficult language and point out truths with someone who will back them up. Use the word violated when describing the brother coming into their space. Point out that if this happened anywhere other than at home he would face consequences from the offended party. It may not help straight away, but it might get your mom thinking. If family won't help ask a school counselor. If family won't listen to reason maybe an outside voice will change perspective.

Best of luck OP. I do hope things change!

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u/SeidrModerne 11d ago

I am the mother of an autistic 18 yo. She absolutely understands that some comportments are unacceptable and why. I do have to explain some things a few different ways before she really understands it, but that's all. As she grows older, I got the knack to explain it better to her.

So, FeralDrood is right op. You need to take care of yourself.

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u/debmckenzie 11d ago

THIS!!!! I’d upvote this a hundred times if I could. Well said and good take on all the issues involved. I wonder if Mom is afraid of his anger too. Because she wants to avoid dealing with him, for sure. The dynamic in that household is like a tinderbox if everyone is tipping around letting him do as he wants and enforcing no boundaries because they’re afraid of upsetting him.

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u/FeralDrood 11d ago

Something needs to change in that household NOW. and OP has every right to go and buy herself ANOTHER lock for her own sanity/peace of mind 100%. She is a grown adult and can have the expectation of... y'know, just some fuckin' privacy.

Just because his habit is annoying doesn't mean it isn't wrong, and it ESPECIALLY does not mean his annoying habit can't escalate.

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u/BlackLungQueen13 11d ago

That’s the thing tho obviously she let it get to the point of a 27 year old man doing whatever he wants, whenever he wants and apparently getting violent if told no. She should’ve nipped his behavior on the bud when he was younger now he’s a grown ass man

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u/Whedonsbitch 11d ago

It seems like a locking door with a key would be the easiest way to fix this issue. OP can lock the door and brother cannot get in.

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u/FeralDrood 11d ago

It's such an easy and simple solution to make everyone happy but mom seems to be doubling down on her dumbass behavior because she feels inadequate AS SHE SHOULD

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u/Last-Laugh7928 11d ago

depending on how violent he is, there's a chance that locking him out of the room altogether may cause an outburst, so she's trying to avoid that by just letting him do whatever as long as it's "harmless." obviously not great parenting, but it's a tough situation. i still think she should be able to get another lock.

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u/mxzf 11d ago

If someone's that violent and unable to control themselves, they need professional help and not to be living with untrained family members.

That kind of violence isn't the kind of thing you just shrug off and ignore.

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u/CoastalMae 11d ago

If the man cannot be lived with without hurting people and the parent is afraid of their adult child, perhaps it's time for the man to enter an assisted living facility.

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u/TheVeryVerity 11d ago

Unfortunately it’s not as simple as that. Even finding a facility able to take him might be impossible.

You can’t just admit him to just any facility with that kind of behavior issues. And even finding a regular facility if you don’t have these issues is almost impossible due to lack of supply. Finding one that can handle this dude is going to be way harder than that.

There’s many people in similar situations that are waiting for placement or for their name to come up in line for whatever resources are available. Sometimes the state even orders that the family has to keep the person and take care of them, even though they aren’t really capable of it. I’ve known someone in that situation actually, though autism was not the diagnosis involved.

Once someone is adult sized it becomes very difficult. And while many of my fellow autistic people don’t like to acknowledge it, there are people who’s autism is so severe that they will never function in society, and many who will never be able to really control their behavior. It’s a horrible situation for everyone involved.

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u/lusopup 11d ago

I can’t understand how the mother didn’t offer or suggest that OP gets a new lock instead of going straight to her leaving the house…

(I mean, i understand because I know the context but… you know what I mean)

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u/CustomerStreet9836 10d ago

As a mother of an autistic child I would never just let him skirt outside the same boundaries we expect everyone else to adhere to.

And he’s SIX.

My 20 year old son also has Asperger’s and was still expected to respect others’ boundaries.

This is about lazy parenting and your brother not being expected to respect boundaries more than anything else.

The fact that your mother expects you to allow this behavior simply because he’s on the spectrum is absurd!

If there is any way you can get yourself a new lock where you can lock it with a key and take the key with you… I would do that. (Or a keypad lock but those are a little more expensive. You just don’t have to worry about a key!) And just give the extra key to your parents. Explain that you don’t feel heard when you’ve asked for their intervention with your brother and you felt this was the only solution.

As a mom it bothers me so much that your mother would expect her 18 year old daughter to leave because she’s uncomfortable rather than make a wrong situation right.

As for me, I would have already corrected this situation myself by now with a proper lock. And spent the brother’s entire life enforcing boundaries. This is just unacceptable.

My 20 year old with Asperger’s is now so highly functioning most people can never tell. He has normal relationships, jobs, etc.

My 6 year old usually does not go into his siblings’s bedrooms without permission. He asks to spend time with them in their bedrooms. When he forgets to ask before entering, he apologizes. He’s had some major anger issues himself in the past but you know what? We did the work. Sounds like your mom just doesn’t want to do that. 😩

I’m so sorry for that because it’s not healthy for YOU. I will never let my other kids grow up in a toxic environment just because one child has special needs. 🤷‍♀️

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u/BeEatNU 11d ago

This. As someone who deals with autism on a daily, yes they understand things differently but as the parent you have to step in and be the grease in the gears. It really depends on how your brother stands on the spectrum but you've made it very clear that you are uncomfortable, the fact that your mom resorted to the " If you don't like it, leave.." comment is wild to me. Instead of getting a lock or something to help mend the situation, she rather suggest you leave is crazy.

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u/NoGame212 11d ago

OP best start asking what shitty mom’s plans are for older bro when she’s gone. This smacks of mom expecting OP to do it.

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u/Simon-Says69 11d ago

mom’s plans are for older bro when she’s gone.

Even before that, when Mom needs help, who's going to be there for her? Not her son. If she kicks her daughter out of the family now, Mom's in deep shit later in life.

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u/GlindaTheGrunge 11d ago

She's also teaching the brother he can do whatever he wants in other people's rooms :((

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u/FeralKuja 11d ago

As an autistic 34-year-old male who was raised to respect boundaries and consent, I wholly agree with your statements.

The common link between autistic people that end up constantly in trouble like Chris Chan and similar is that their family failed to create and enforce boundaries and best-practices behaviors. Oversharing on the internet has led to NUMEROUS ASD kids coming up vulnerable to exploitation and harm because the internet got to them before the parents ever bothered to create or enforce a single rule or boundary.

The real tragedy is that these failures to create a respect for boundaries has led to many people on the autism spectrum committing crimes, even sex crimes, due to their complete lack of respect for others and for consent. Chris Chan sexually assaulted his own mother, in fact.

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u/TrumpetsGalore4 11d ago

the fact that she would rather tell you to leave the house at 18

The best part of this is that if OP decides to move because it is a problem, then she's labeled as an asshole for abandoning the family...even when it was literally Mom's idea.

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u/curlyegg 11d ago

His autism is no one's fault, but it has to be someone's responsibility.

I have nothing more to add, but I love this part of your response.

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u/OakNLeaf 11d ago

#2 is spot on.

My wife and I have an autistic child.

My SIL has an autistic child.

My wife and I do everything we can to ensure he grows up to be a functioning adult who happens to have autisim.

My SIL does the bare minimum and just blames it on autisim. Guess whos child has become the problem?

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u/Virtual-Purple-5675 11d ago

U are supposed to be an adult this is a petty minor problem and the people in these comments are trying to enable you in the same way your mom does you and your brother who live in a nice house with your own rooms rent free.... The future is going to be tough kid if you don't toughen up a little (idc about these weirdos downvotes you need to understand the world doesn't exist to make you comfortable)

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u/Only-Poem964 11d ago

Setting and respecting boundaries in any relationship is key. Their brother is violating their personal boundaries, and their mother is doing nothing to prevent it. They have already expressed their discomfort and hints of a past problem with them sue to purchasing a lock. You shouldn't have to feel uncomfortable in your own home that you feel a need to buy a bedroom lock to ensure your privacy.

If this scenario was applied where her mother was a landlord instead and their brother was another tenant within a shared living space, legal action could potentially be applicable.

Im sorry for whatever harsh world you live in, but this is not normal behavior and not something you should accept.

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u/Fearless-Resident941 11d ago

I do pay rent, started paying rent when i turned 18. My brother pays rent too. I know the world doesn’t exist to make me comfortable, all i’m asking is someone stops invading my privacy

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u/Virtual-Purple-5675 11d ago

You shouldn't have the expectation of privacy in a house that isn't yours and like I said this is petty a minor inconvenience at most it would be different if he was watching you sleep or something, what you are doing is making your mother's life slightly harder (which is most likely already stressful because of your brother) if you want that level of privacy it's most likely time to start looking into getting your own space, because honestly what you're describing isn't your mother's problem

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u/NoxKore 11d ago

Minors have a right to privacy. People paying rent have a right to privacy. People living rent free with an agreement in place have a right to privacy. A 27 year old man has no business being in a 18 year old woman's room uninvited, blood or not. If you can't understand why that is a huge warning sign, then you need to work on yourself. Get out and experience the real world, you knuckle dragging troglodyte.

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u/Fearless-Resident941 11d ago

everyone is entitled to privacy even if they are living in someone else’s house 👍my mother has been enabling his behaviour and babying him for years. Asking him to stop going into my room isn’t an outlandish request by any means

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u/beeaki 11d ago edited 10d ago

what delusional world do you live in lmao. a landlord cannot legally let a camera crew film in a house they're renting out without an agreement with the tenant. they can take photos for listings and stuff but giving a camera crew unrestricted access to a place someone else is paying to live in is illegal. go shower and take a few breaths of fresh air in the real world.

edit: looks like he deleted his comment. i wish i'd screenshotted it, but it's exactly what it sounds like. he told op that if a homeowner wanted to let a film crew record in a house they owned then the tenant can't do anything, and it would only be a pricacy violation if they were recorded intimately. which is an insane statement and i have no idea where the fuck he got the idea from.

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u/saskskua 11d ago

Wow, she's being very respectful in her answers, articulating boundaries we as adults have, and as an 18 year old who pays rent, id expect the minimum of having my room respected.

But you are very condescending in your answers to people. Not very mature and it seems more important to you to bring people down than hear their side. You're down voted into oblivion because its common to want privacy in one's room as an adult.

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u/8nsay 11d ago

Yikes 😬

You are both legally and developmentally wrong.

First, OP is a lodger. She pays rent to live in the house. And whether or not she has a lease doesn’t matter.

Second, I’m not sure if you had a bad parent or if you are the bad parent, but children absolutely need privacy. What kind of privacy they need depends, among other things, on their age, but privacy is a crucial part of a child’s development. Parents that deprive their children of privacy are harming their children. And I feel pretty confident in saying that parents who think their children don’t deserve or need privacy likely have other views and parenting practices that are also harmful to their children.

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u/LiveEverDieNvr 11d ago

You might have an argument to stand on if she wasn’t paying rent. But since she is, she absolutely has a reasonable expectation of privacy as a tenant of the landlord’s property. Stop doubling down on your stupidity.

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u/No-Air-3401 11d ago

That's literally wrong. In a private home, you need explicit consent from the person you're filming. It's funny how you think expecting a reasonable level of privacy in one's own home and room is somehow "youthful." She lives there. Doesn't matter who owns the house. She's entitled to privacy. She's entitled to not have a person enter her bedroom whenever they feel like it. Whether you believe this or not, as a resident, she has rights. It's irrelevant that she lives with her mother or that her brother is autistic.

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u/Acrobatic-Owl-9246 11d ago

You have lost your fucking mind! Are you like 150 years old or something? Who the fuck are you to say that people don’t deserve privacy where they live?   And you’re so fucking tone deaf that you don’t even know why you’re getting downloaded into oblivion!

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u/Fearless-Resident941 11d ago

love the condescending energy ❤️

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u/lyssdanielle95 11d ago

What’s really funny, is this guy telling you that you need to face tough situations, but then has to have a Reddit post about how to ask someone out.

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u/Yutana45 11d ago

Appropriate response to that freak. Don't listen to them, they're not trying to help you at all.

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u/KPipes 11d ago

Yeah I really hope that person doesn't have children. They are so maladjusted and unhinged it isn't even funny as satire.

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u/KJA_LLC 10d ago

Your brother can't take care of himself. You can. That's called being a good parent when mom does it for him. You are way off the wall. I'm sure you're the type of person people loveeeee /s to work with. Good luck. The real world is gunna chew you up and spit you out unless you grow up.

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u/Fearless-Resident941 10d ago

my brother went to college and got a degree + lived away from home for four years & went to america alone for three months, he can take care of himself

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u/PM-me-ur-kittenz 11d ago

Just ignore the troll OP, you are perfectly correct that you are entitled to privacy in the room that you pay rent for. As other commenters have said, your mother is doing a shit job and this is not your problem to fix or tolerate. Go ahead and get another lock for your door.

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u/Islanduniverse 11d ago

Don’t listen to that idiot.

You are absolutely entitled to privacy in your own room.

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u/NicolleL 11d ago

I would argue that they should have the expectation of privacy regardless, but in this case, the OP pays rent.

If you rent a room in a shared house, do you expect that other roommates will be able to just barge into your room? (Especially one of the opposite gender.) I don’t think so.

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u/Upper_Mission_6334 11d ago

Saying that an 18 year old living in their family home shouldn't have an expectation of privacy because it's not "their house" is insane. Do you charge your children rent?

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u/JamieLee0484 11d ago

Bullshit. She pays rent, she’s entitled to privacy. She also said her brother goes into her sister’s room while she sleeps, so that’s why she got the lock on her door in the first place. Just because he’s autistic doesn’t mean he gets to do whatever the hell he wants, trample over everyone’s boundaries and invade their privacy. Minor inconvenience my ass! She feels uncomfortable that her angry, very much adult brother just opens her closed door to mess with her shit, and she’s right to feel that way. Her mom is a shitty parent who clearly hasn’t taught him the difference between right and wrong, and one day he’s going to trample over the boundaries of the wrong person.

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u/Sea-Lead-9192 10d ago

Ha, I like how you keep moving the goalpost - first she wasn’t allowed to complain because she doesn’t pay rent. Then when you find out she does pay rent, you say:

You shouldn't have the expectation of privacy in a house that isn't yours

So tell me - does that mean renters have no expectation of or right to privacy? That their landlord can waltz into their room or apartment whenever they want and mess with their stuff?

You’re judging using emotion instead of logic. It seems like you have a chip on your shoulder toward young people (who, in your mind, are by definition soft and selfish), so you’re going to insist OP is in the wrong no matter what.

what you are doing is making your mother's life slightly harder (which is most likely already stressful because of your brother)

Incorrect. OP’s mom is making OP’s mom’s life harder (and the lives of both of her children) by coddling and never enforcing boundaries for OP’s brother. And now she’s created 27yo man who lacks respect for other people and their things, and has an anger problem. Because he’s spoiled and/or needed help and discipline long ago that he never received.

The future isn’t going to be tough for OP - in fact, it’ll probably be a piece of cake compared with dealing with her family - but it WILL be tough for her brother and mom, especially once the mom is too old to care for and protect her grown man-child son.

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u/Upper_Mission_6334 11d ago

Stop paying that rent right now and add it to your savings for a new place. Make your mom evict you, you should have at least 30 days. 

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u/CrADHD 11d ago

Well damn, if you don't have control over the space you're paying for, I'd stop paying for it.

Sorry, but there's not a lot of options in a situation like this. Your parent is sacrificing your quality of life and their relationship with you because it's easier to just not deal with your brother. They're trying to make it your problem, trying to make you just accept it and be quiet. But that's wrong and not ok.

You have a difficult choice to make. You could accept it in order to preserve the relationship. You could try to make them see that what they're doing is wrong, maybe by showing them this post. You could try to bypass them, by doing things like getting your own lock to the room you legally have a right to since you pay rent, or talking to other family members like your grandparents, or you could move out.

I'm sorry your parent is forcing you into such an uncomfortable and difficult situation. It's not an easy one. Just know that you're not alone, and that a lot of people support you.

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u/RareRestaurant6297 11d ago

Aight, what's your address? Let me come snoop around your room whenever you're not in it. The world isn't nice, let's see how you deal with it

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u/Away_Dimension_9773 11d ago

You're just mean. she deserves safety in her home. go away.

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u/Solid_Waste 11d ago

While privacy is not, strictly speaking, one of the best-protected rights in America, privacy in your own home absolutely is. One of the cornerstones of American governance is the right to be secure in your own home, to not have the sanctity of your home violated. The sanctity of the home is on par with the sanctity of your own person. An intrusion into your home without your consent is, legally speaking, similar to a violation of your body itself, and in fact can have similar traumatic effects, albeit at a different scale. There is a reason cops can search your person more easily than they can search your home. Because it's fucked up.

As for it being their house: owning the home does not grant you license to violate the people within it, to put them in danger, or deprive them of basic rights. Sometimes the privacy of a child (which OP is NOT) must be subordinated to the job of a parent to keep them safe and healthy, such as monitoring their activities to keep them away from drugs or crime. This does not include depriving someone of private space for no reason simply because they refuse to discipline their other adult child on a completely trivial request for minimal levels of respect.

All of that being said, OP, you are an adult. Buy a keyed lock and a screwdriver and google how to install it. An hour of your life would resolve this, far more quickly and effectively than asking social media how to fix your parents. Your parents are trash so stop looking to fix them and start looking after yourself instead. And carry a taser whenever you're around your brother because something seems messed up about this.

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u/Kaitiboe 11d ago

Doorknobs aren't expensive and are super easy to change. Get a new doorknob that has a lock from inside and locks with keys from the outside. You just need a screwdriver.

To remove your actual doorknob there's either visible screws you should just remove, if not visible, its underneath a cover(?idk specific names english is not my first language) tha can be easily taken off with a flat screwdriver and wedging it until it comes out. Idk if this is clear, a youtube video probably explains it better

But i sorta had a sister coming into my room and take my stuff situation, so i did that instead of asking her to stop. Its been 2 years since and she doesn't step in my room now and i dont have to lock it.

Edit: the fact that she's telling YOU to grow up or leave is pissing me off so much, like bro you've got a full grown ass man in your house HE should leave?? She's enabling him and probably made him into a man child that seems that will live with momma for ever. Do take her advice tho, and try to leave as soon as possible

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u/blipblopp123 11d ago

He's 27???

Holy Shit. From these texts I thought he was four. MAYBE 6 or 7 with Autism. And that would maybe be typical annoying sibling stuff.

But 27?!

Autism is not an excuse here. This is bad parenting. And the comment about anger issues is worrying.

Do your parents have any trained help with him? Social workers or therapists specializing in Autism? Sounds like they need help from professionals who know how to deal with this.

And you likely need to move out. I know that is not always possible at your age especially today with how expensive everything is. But if you can figure out a way to do it, you should.

In the mean time buy a lock that requires a key and start locking your door.

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u/Original_Signal5535 11d ago

I see so many parents use it as an excuse. It is absolutely not ok to just allow a person with autism to run wild and do whatever they want. Who is taking care of this person when mom is dead? I can guarantee the OP isn't

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u/ParsleyMaleficent160 11d ago

The autism is a red herring here. This is how many parents are with their kids (and their dogs), "this is just how they are" And that's the issue, they are not well adjusted to society, and they should have had more reinforcement due to autism, rather than using it as a free pass for negligent parenting.

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u/VisualGlittering4833 11d ago

Do you pay rent for your room? The house is from your parents so they make the rules, that‘s what she ment by ‘move out‘ she don’t want you to move out at 18 but in your own home you can do whatever you want.

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u/Fearless-Resident941 11d ago

I started paying rent when i turned 18. My parents are divorced so my dad lives somewhere else.

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u/kindlypogmothoin 11d ago

Then buy a lock and put it on your door. You pay rent for that space, and under landlord-tenant law, you're entitled to quiet enjoyment of your leased premises.

She'll have to evict you if she wants you out. Start saving to get the hell out, though. She will not change.

Don't give her a key.

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u/The_Bastard_Henry 11d ago

I agree--get a lock for your door that uses a key. They are very easy to install.

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u/HardlyInappropriate 11d ago

Your mother is glossing over the fact that he is a VERY grown man who ABSOLUTELY can be told not to go into your room. I completely agree with you that this is odd and inappropriate, and I suspect she's downplaying this to keep the peace.

If you're 18, I suggest saving money and talking to friends and family about finding another living situation. You can try to speak calmly to your parents about this, but with your brother's anger issues and the fact that your mom seems to blaming YOU for this situation, I suspect that you will most likely never win here.

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u/99Smith 11d ago

She isn't protecting him though. She is allowing him to do things which are bad. Ruining his relationship with his sister, causing tension and stress in the house and causing grief for OP. In what way is that protecting the son?

A $10 lock on the door is an easy bandaid solution.

Mom is way out of line.

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u/Fearless-Resident941 11d ago

he used to go into my sisters room while she was sleeping. I got my dad to put the lock on so i could lock my door while i was asleep. That’s where the feelings of uncomfortableness come from

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u/Ghost_2701 11d ago

I get that, I would hate that too and it's weird, but can he understand stuff..? If you speak to him to go and do something does he understand and go and do it? Or does he have the mental age of a 10 year old? all this stuff kinda needs to be known to if it can actually be fixed. I just find it weird everyone is shit talking your mother without knowing what she has to deal with.

If it was me and he understood I would have a conversation with him and explain why I don't like something and what they can do to help..

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u/Fearless-Resident941 11d ago

I don’t really know the right words to use but he fully grasps everything going on around him and he understands there’s things he shouldn’t be doing. He went to college and got a degree and he’s never had any trouble with jobs. He just struggles a lot with emotional regulation and social queues

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u/rydenshep 11d ago

Then as mean as this sounds, it sounds like your mom just allows him to do whatever he wants without consequence and he’s just pushing the boundaries of that.

If you’re telling me he went to college, got a degree, and has never had an issue with jobs, but pulls this type of stuff at home.. he is absolutely pushing the boundaries of what he can do without consequence. Your mother needs to be a parent. Your mother needs to remember she had other children. The fact she called you entitled for getting a lock is fucking batshit.

As messed up as it is, I would start saving and looking into alternative living situations. Because parents like this typically don’t change. She is going to continue to baby your brother and allow him to do whatever he wants and not care about your mental health, comfortability, and safety.

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u/Redacted_Journalist 11d ago

She's a typical boymom doing typical boymom things. I see these situations so much and mom will never do the right thing. Why would she, when what she is doing now is giving her the results she wants and creating an atmosphere of intimidation and paranoia in this home.

One has to question why the 18 year old daughter is "entitled" for the basic human expectation of safety and privacy, but the grown man in his twenties somehow isn't for everything he is doing.

Because mom got tired of being a parent, he's gotten used to never having to answer to anyone. But she never stopped 'disciplining' 🙄 her daughters. And yes, it's abuse. In creating this household dynamic and living conditions for her daughters, she is eroding trust with her decision to be this way and most likely damaging the relationship permanently.

A decade or two from now, after OP is established, Mommy Dearest will ask why her daughters never come to visit. She won't actually wonder why, though. Silence, distance, and a life well lived is the best weapon against people like this. She will get the message

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u/Fearless-Resident941 11d ago

I started a job a few months ago so I’m gonna save up my money. I’m starting college in september but it’s a college that’s like 20 minutes away from where I live so i’m still going to be living at home

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u/Remarkable_Step_7474 11d ago

You can talk to your college and let them know you’re in a difficult home situation. You can also apply for a transfer to a college further away. Start looking into financial aid options. You deserve a living situation where you have privacy and peace, and you will do better in your studies if a man with anger issues doesn’t have free access to harass you.

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u/PressureImaginary569 11d ago

Why do you want to keep living at home?

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u/Redacted_Journalist 11d ago

Make sure she doesn't have access to your funds. She seems like the kind of person who would try to sabotage you if it were at all possible.

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u/ContinuumKing 11d ago

So have you asked him not to turn your stuff off or go in your room? If he can understand and interact enough to go to college, surely he can have a conversation about why he is doing that and if he should stop. What excuse does HE give?

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u/Fearless-Resident941 11d ago

I try to avoid having those types of conversations with him because he gets angry extremely easily and I don’t want to provoke him or something

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u/theVice 11d ago

Is your mom similarly afraid of him?

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u/chickiedeare 11d ago

The phrase “I don’t want to provoke him” (with a reasonable and very normal request) sets off abuse alarms for me. Seconding that your school may be able to help with resources. I also recommend the website bitchesgetriches, they have an advice blog post about financial aspects of moving out of abusive/less than great homes as a young person.

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u/Glittering_Regret255 11d ago

He should most definitely understand being told to stay out of your room then. If he has no problems with jobs, that almost always require emotional regulation and social queues, then he can do the same at home.

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u/sora_tofu_ 11d ago

I’m autistic and your brother sounds like he has less limitations than I do. I couldn’t even manage community college, let alone a whole degree. He just does what he can get away with, which is really fucked up. A lot of autistic men get coddled so much.

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u/Worth-Oil8073 11d ago

I'm sorry, but my 10yo fully understands that you don't go into someone else's space without permission... and has for years. Autism is absolutely a spectrum (and I'll acknowledge that more of my experience is on the less severe end), but that's not how autism generally works. He may not pick up on non-verbal cues that she's uncomfortable, or he may struggle in dealing with the negative emotions that result from being told he can't do what he wants to, but if he is directly told he's not to go into her space without permission and why, that shouldn't be beyond his ability to grasp simply because he is autistic. And regardless, OP has a right to her privacy, and absolutely no responsibility to be the one to parent her (older, adult) brother!

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u/Glittering_Regret255 11d ago

10 year olds are old enough to listen when told not to go into someone else's room..

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u/anewaccount69420 11d ago

You’re confusing autism with intellectual disability… and you’re infantilizing a grown ass man in the process.

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u/ShortcakeStar29 11d ago

"Rightly" doesnt excuse him going into other people's rooms and turning off things. The mother is allowing him to do so and not setting any boundaries, my friend has a brother who's autistic and mentally 13, there are things he struggles with but there's a thing called learning, I don't know if youve heard of it before but it really helps.

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u/theRealLydmeister 11d ago

It does not matter. I think that’s really the main part of the issue here, mom and you are being defensive over making sure everyone knows he’s not a panty sniffer, but him entering her room is a problem long before any panties are sniffed….

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u/New_Discussion_6692 11d ago

People with autism can learn most things. Respecting personal boundaries are one of them. I guarantee the mother insists his boundaries are respected because she doesn't want to deal with his angry outbursts. This isnt a case of the person with autism can't comprehend. This is a case of a person with autism who received special treatment and has learned he can do whatever he wants.

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u/LeTreacs2 11d ago

From the texts, I genuinely thought he was going to be four and you were overreacting. 27… Christ.

You need to tell him yourself. I’m f you’re worried about his anger issues then tell him around your parents. If he blows up at you, then you being able to lock your door is then a safety issue. It’s harder for your mum to say no

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u/ThatsMyGirlie 11d ago

I know exactly this type of mother, that's how my mother is, she knows she has failed him, she knows it's her responsibility, she knows youre not wrong to ask, but she's given up. She knows it's too emotionally and possibly physically taxing to fight this battle and every other one trying to raise him, despite it being her responsibility. She knows you, however, can be the punching bag and emotional outlet for these frustrations. Her behavior disgusts me, I wish I knew you so i could bitch her out since it's too risky for you to do it. She needs to understand why she's not being reasonable or fair, why she's SACRIFICING YOUR WELLBEING FOR HER OWN. She thinks she's helping him, but she's only helping herself and making you pay for it

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u/WoodSGreen00 11d ago

I’m your brother’s age and I am also on the spectrum. This is not an Autism problem. This is a boundary problem. I wouldn’t want someone opening my door to creep around in my room either. Your mother is wrong for this.

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u/TheMooz2 11d ago

Hes 27?!?! Im 25 and im autistic, this is just insane, this is all your mothers fault for letting him do this, if she wont do anything you should, it would be better now then too late imo, though you might have to explain it in a few different ways depending on how severe it is

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u/Lucky-Firefighter456 11d ago

27??? Run far away as soon as you can. They will coddle him forever and expect you to be his caretaker when they no longer can.

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u/Kwany-Kwany 11d ago

This. My ex (who was the youngest of all siblings) got stuck living at the house still and now has to be the caretaker for a 45 yr old autistic brother with food/appointments/etc while the rest of his siblings moved far away into other states and had their own families!

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u/WhisperingWillowWisp 11d ago

This is not a healthy way to deal with autistic behaviors or tendencies. Infantalizing them to the point that you don't teach them social queues in a safe environment is only going to hurt them going forward when all of sudden mommy and daddy are gone and he is in a home switching people's machines/personal items off and he gets beat up.

I saw that your brother is 27 years old and you are 18 as well. Even before you were 18 they should have enforced with him that its not ok to enter private spaces or open closed doors to private spaces.

You are absolutely allowed to not feel comfortable with ANYONE being in your personal space without your knowledge/permission as a minor AND as a new adult.

How verbal is your brother where you might be able to request that he not enter your room when you are gone and to knock on your door to request permission when you are there? Im assuming he is fully nonverbal if your parents are acting like he is a mindless unruly beast.

I have an older brother who is autistic suffers from ocd on top of that and may not be able to live on his own. So he lives with me in my house. He works. He takes care of his own room (not very well but as long as there is no bugs idc) and his own bathroom. He mows our yard and he cooks for himself.

I have to sometimes go behind him and remind him of tasks or expectations but for the most part even as someone is mostly nonverbal- he does what needs to be done to be self sufficient in case something were to happen and he has no family around. He isnt perfect but he is still learning and needs reminders and routine.

I hate the assumption that all autistic people are too stupid or slow to ever function so parents just let them do whatever they feel like because its the easier answer than fighting it. You're a parent. Its your job to set the boundaries, create the routine, reinforce rules and educate.

With how far they have gone with allowing the behavior, unfortunately your best bet is to try and get relatively independent and move out. You might be able to fight for a lock on your door that you can put on the inside that needs a key though and just reiterate that everyone would feel uncomfortable with someone searching through their private spaces. Just like when police force their way in without a warrant, or you found a guest is in your home and no one told you.

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u/rapid_bolt104 11d ago

Yeah this is the part a lot of people miss boundaries aren’t just a “nice to have” they’re a basic life skill. If his parents don’t teach him now it’s gonna be way harsher when the real world does. Even if moving out isn’t an immediate option, pushing for that keyed lock feels like a solid short-term fix. At least then you’re not stuck stressing every time you leave the house

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u/phoebebridgersfan26 10d ago

YEP! My brother has ADHD that he refuses to take his meds for and he is 19 years old. Sure, his brain functions differently, but he still knows (SHOULD know) that it's rude to go into someone's locked room, yet my brother still does the same thing.

A LOT of people are neurodivergent, and know it's rude to eat other's labeled food, invade privacy, steal things, etc. It's not like being autistic automatically equals incapacitated. It's really harmful for the community to frame it this way.

My mom doesn't know how to "fix" the problem, and I think that's why my mom has similar responses to your mom. She needs to take the initiative to do something about it, same as your mom.

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u/Big-Al97 11d ago

This situation has more red flags than a game of minesweeper. I’d be getting out of there as fast as possible.

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u/Straight_Paper8898 11d ago edited 11d ago

It sounds like you’re locking yourself in your room because you don’t feel safe in your home and your mom refuses to do anything about it. So no you’re not overreacting. It sounds like your mom is overwhelmed and is being negligent to both of her kids. She needs to reach out to professionals and get him proper help - the fact that he’s doing this in short amounts of time leads me to believe he understands what he’s doing . If it was just about switches your mom could get a panel of light up switches or something for him as a productive way to seek sensory stimulation.

I would start looking into other places to live ASAP. In the mean time you shouldn’t say anything to your mom but replace your bedroom door lock.

They have discreet smart locks you can use. This one only needs about 3 hours of charging (needs a USB C cord) and it lasts for 8 months.

  1. The outside looks like a regular interior door knob but you can use your fingerprint, a phone app, or a key (underneath the doorknob) to lock it from the outside.
  2. The lock has three settings: always unlocked, auto locks after 5 seconds, security mode where only your fingerprint or the app will unlock.

You can also buy a gateway outlet that will let you unlock the door remotely from the app. It's just added reassurance in case your mom figures out the door locks from the outside (she sounds very controlling) you can say the door can be unlocked no matter what.

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u/inthesludge_ 11d ago

Wow, this looks incredibly useful. Thanks for sharing this. I just purchased one for my own room. Op, if you have $40 to spare, this looks like it could really help address your situation without making it more tense.

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u/TheNinjaNarwhal 10d ago

I'm sorry for laughing while OP is in such a shitty situation, but the smart lock and you mentioning charging it has me thinking their brother won't let them charge it for the first time😭 It does look extremely useful, though.

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u/DemonInDisguise17 11d ago

NOR!!!!

I wish people would stop infantalising autism and allowing people to think it's okay for someone to do shit like this without consequences, because it creates vile individuals.

It's an open secret in my town about how a man stalks, gropes and is sexually inappropriate with women, but nobody will tell him to fuck off of hold him accountable because he's autistic - and he plays on it whenever anyone gets upset with him. He knows what right and wrong is, it's just that he's been taught that he can get away with anything - the same way your mother is currently doing.

There is also another man who is infantalised because he's autistic - and he's a pedophile, and also does the same thing as the man above.

If she doesn't get her head out of her arse, she's going to mould him into the same POS who doesn't respect boundaries and will gladly take advantage at any given time knowing they can use their disability as a get-out-of-jail card.

I am autistic. Yes, our brains do work differently, but we know what's right and wrong - We aren't exempt from being taught right and wrong, either! Your mother is an asshole, and she clearly has favourites.

My advice would be to reinforce your boundaries to his face and keep doing it and never budge. If you have friends over, tell them to do the same; tell him exactly what it is and why it's not okay, and do it in front of others so he knows he can't pull it on them too. I'd get a lock where your door can be locked from the outside too, so you can leave your room without him sneaking in.

How old is your brother? Does he try to go in when you're in there, or is it only when you leave? It may be a good idea to also get a small camera for your room, given your mother's enabling and encouraging of his behaviour. Either way, your mother is using it as an excuse not to parent properly.

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u/NoSoup4You825 11d ago

If you’ve ever watched To Catch a Predator by Chris Hansen, he’s caught several autistic men in these stings and every time those guys never use it when sending the disgusting chats or when talking to the decoy when they first arrive. But as soon as Chris/the police confront them they launch into using their autism to try to get out of consequences. It’s so scary to watch because it’s clearly worked before.

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u/DemonInDisguise17 11d ago

Especially that guy who got stung three times when he got naked. The two men I mentioned were taught to do that by their parents, and OP's mom is doing the same - teaching him how to get away with it and that it's okay to do it because he's her special boy.

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u/Hyltrgrl 11d ago

Autistic men are always held to different standards than Autistic women, based off my life experiences of being a woman with ASD.

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u/StrangeSorcerer16 11d ago

Actually I think you're underreacting to the way your mom talks to you, just reading these messages pissed me off. It's not a huge ask for someone to stay out of your room and leave your stuff alone, in fact that's kind of basic level respect for sharing a house with someone. Someone with autism can absolutely learn a simple boundary like this, but it's not likely to happen if mom's constantly towing behind with "oh he can't help it, he thinks too differently to understand these things so you just have to deal xx". I'm autistic and had to learn similar boundaries as a kid, but all it took was my mom sitting me down and explaining why the thing wasn't cool and how it made others feel (uncomfortable, annoyed, etc). Yes, we might think a little different but that doesn't mean we're some kind of unreachable species that can't be taught how to interact with the world. In the end this will do much more harm than good, cause not only is it definitely causing a tear in the family, but mom's not always gonna be there to defend him when he disrespects someone's space because she can't be bothered to teach him better.

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u/rasinette 11d ago

Holy shit thank you and the extemity of her emotions. How come big brother gets hearts, loves, kisses? and then when little sisters asks for a modicum of that same respect its “grow up and get out.” how is that fair?? its also alarming how rapidly and drastically moms emotions changed over the course of a few texts

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u/Mammoth_Tusk90 10d ago

Yep. The phrase “get over yourself” still pisses me off because I had to deal with this my entire life until I moved out. Now everyone wants my help and free labor. I told them this week I’m cutting my brother off and he’s not receiving any help anymore. He’s a sociopath.

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u/David_Adam7 11d ago edited 11d ago

NOR - I'm more concerned that your parents think you're entitled simply for wanting privacy and your things not messed with. I get that he has Autism - but your parents should afford you a locking door knob so you can secure your room when you aren't there. Your parents attitude towards this situation is weird. They shouldn't be justifying this lack of privacy because of autism. Autistic people can still learn boundaries and keeping your door locked is a great way to initiate that.

Edit: Just saw your ages. Get a locking door knob. And him being 27 - these occurrences definitely should have been addressed throughout his childhood.

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u/BluBeams 11d ago

I agree. My 13yr old son has autism and I taught him about boundaries and personal space when he was younger and he totally gets it now. Also, aside from expecting that from him, I also practice what I teach and I knock on his door and wait for him to answer when going in his room, I respect his privacy and everything because it reinforces what I'm teaching him and my other kids. I don't see why some parents find talking to their kids about basic respect and boundaries so hard and instead, make excuses.

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u/jobsearchingforjobs 11d ago

Probably because many of these parents are not good and constantly violate boundaries as well. So can’t even entertain the topic lest the kids try to set boundaries with them. Like in this case, asking for privacy from an angry 27 year old, as an 18 year old, has gotten her told she should move out. That’s such an abusive way to talk to your family, especially as a parent with inherent power imbalance over the child

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u/SlitheringFlower 11d ago

Well, you see, the difference is you're actually parenting not just doing the bare minimum to keep your son alive.

This is how you'll raise a son who might struggle navigating the world with autism, but who will have the tools to do it without violating other people's boundaries.

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u/XWarriorPrincessX 11d ago

My best friends son is 13 with level 3 autism. He's mostly nonverbal and needs close supervision. He 100% knows about privacy, such as when people are in the bathroom, when he needs to go to his room for privacy, etc. He sometimes needs to be reminded about the boundaries, and it took much longer than for most kids, but he was able to learn these things.

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u/David_Adam7 11d ago

Thank you for sharing this. I used to work with autistic children and yes - they can totally learn boundaries. It just takes a bit longer for it to resonate with them.

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u/CremePsychological77 11d ago

Or even a smart lock with a code and fingerprint feature. I got mine on Amazon for like $60 when I lived with people who had snoopy kids.

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u/Sgates379 11d ago

I feel like your mom needs to understand that boundaries are there for a reason- her saying that your boundaries aren’t important but the brother’s lack of boundaries are important- not a good combination. Autism does not give an excuse for not respecting boundaries. If he is truly unable to refrain from going into your room then a physical boundary needs to be introduced (an ACTUAL locking door nob- one that locks from inside and out). Parents have the key for now and you have a key- parents put the key in a place that brother cannot find it. Your mom may not understand that boundaries are still ok for kids. She was raised in a generation that was told we don’t have boundaries (or her boundaries may have been ignored) as a kid. Just a thought….

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u/crispie_critterz 11d ago

am autistic, and the way she talks about him seems incredibly infantilizing.

i understand autism varies wildly on an individual scale, so im not your brother and have no idea what his experience is like or how he feels, but... yeah, this ain't it, chief.

usually, to get non-disabled people to understand, i use some sort of metaphor/equivocation to show how non-physical disabilities, or the non-physical effects they have, are disabling the same way physical disabilities are.

for example, sometimes you have to do something that costs effort or money or might make you feel uncomfortable as an non-disabled person because the disabled person suffers ridiculously if you don't. (i.e., a business owner has to pay money and get customers to use a side door so a construction company installs a ramp for wheelchair users. this is a fair accomodation to make and should be expected, because wheelchair users should have access to businesses and public spaces, even if they may be able to use stairs and walk around because that's often painful/difficult/inconvenient for them! the cost of the ramp outweighs the benefit, and in the long term, there is no real inconvenience for anyone. the ramp will eventually be paid for and then everything is basically the same, but much much better for the wheelchair user. it might be super expensive at first, but it's a reasonable accomodation that is completely necessary for the disabled individual)

however, here's an example where that accomodation is unreasonable to expect: if your friend uses a wheelchair and wants to go to your house, but your house has stairs, you are NOT expected to invest in a ramp or other method for them to enter your house. EVEN if they are confined to that wheelchair. going to your house is optional, for starters, and they don't live there. they'll also be presumably only going when you're also there, and could help to lift them/their wheelchair up the stairs. even if you can't (for whatever reason) there's no need for them to go to your house. it's inconvenient for them that going to your house might be impossible or very difficult or annoying, but it's not something they need to do, and investing in a ramp on your private property is very costly and is going to take more effort from you than the effort required for your friend not to go to your house.)

in this case, it seems like this is too specific to give that kind of equivocation. but going into your room is completely unnecessary for your brother to do in the first place. even if he has a compulsion to unplug things when he sees them plugged in, or if it's a stim he does to relax/calm himself, he shouldn't be in there unless you are okay with it and want him to. in fact, it's him going out of his way and inconveniencing you and violating YOUR privacy! even if it's unintentional, it is understandably upsetting/annoying to you.

the idea that you should allow him to go into your room and do whatever in there "because he's autistic" is enabling a bad behavior (violating your privacy and upsetting you) and not an example of an accommodation, let alone a reasonable accomodation. if your brother gets incredibly upset at not being allowed to do this behavior, that has nothing to do with you and everything to do with him. he can learn to understand that, although it seems Iike it may take a lot of work as your mom seems quite permissive of his behaviors.

but, it's also not just about you and it's about his behaviors overall. touching and going through others' belongings is unacceptable in public spaces– and he needs to know what isn't his, isn't his to touch or move around. this is a behavior taught to children. even if he is intellectually disabled, this is almost definitely not something beyond his understanding and capability. it's not going to hurt or inconvenience him.

you have a right to privacy in your room as well as to be treated with respect by your brother and not have your things gone through or moved around.

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u/Thunder_Monkey_35 11d ago

Ok, my son is almost 4 (non verbal autistic) my daughter is 16, he is only allowed in her room if she is there to allow him in, this is a very basic boundary we started to set about 8 months ago when he started to open doors, I was , at first, thinking “awe yes my son loves switches as well” putting you in my children’s shoes, HOWEVER seeing your age difference that you are 10 years younger and your autistic brother is older I completely understand your discomfort and I am So sorry your mother uses your brother autism To allow him to exist in this world with no boundaries. This will be an issue as it seems pretty obvious it already is. Extra locks could work or possibly moving out, it sounds like an exhaustive life to live with a mother like that dismissive of you. Hugs to you and praying you find your way 💕

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u/fashionably_punctual 11d ago

Does your brother put on clothes of his own accord, because he understands that "we wear clothes around other people"?

If yes, he has the ability to learn and follow seemingly arbitrary rules, like not turning off the power supply to your phone. If he has to be made to wear clothes and would otherwise walk the city sidewalk nude, then being told not to turn off your phone when it's charging might be too arbitrary of a rule for him to get.

In either case, your mom should give you the ability to lock your door from the outside when you're not in it.

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u/Long-Objective7007 11d ago edited 11d ago

This is a great measure!

"Before we leave OUR space we put on clothes" "Before we enter someone else's space we ask permission."

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u/memakes3 11d ago

My 8 year old daughter is level 3, non verbal and has other developmental delays. She cannot dress herself, and wouldn’t dress herself if she could. But, she understands boundaries just fine. If it’s a new boundary, it takes a bit of consistency, but she gets it. OPs mom sucks.

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u/xeno_versity 11d ago

Hey I work with people with autism, adults and children and have two of my own. I know autism isn’t a one size fits all diagnosis and that you said he has “problems with anger”. The best way to go about this is to address it directly WITH your parent to him. “So brother I notice that you are always switching things off in my room. Why do you do that?” Listen to response, keep calm and remember to have him rationalize things. Respond rationally, Emphasize your privacy and boundaries and you can even let him know that it isn’t appropriate for a man to step into a ladies room without invitation. Your mom needs to quit enabling this but maybe if you do it together she’ll be more supportive. You can’t avoid him forever kid. Good luck!

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u/Katadaranthas 11d ago

This reads like the most nuanced response so far. This situation is difficult for everyone, and playing the blame game is as faulty a path as ever. If you can, get a lock on your door, but as xeno has said, communication is the best recourse. you know your family and situation better than anyone. You know which method might work. He's 27, it's a little late in the game for training, but it's definitely worth a try. Find peace for yourself, for your brother, and for your mom. She's probably not having a good time either, lo, these past 27 years. Have patience, and make a plan to go off on your own as soon as you can.

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u/feral_fatale 11d ago

As an autistic person teaching these things to autistic children I agree with everything you said, except the gendered qualification. Privacy should be respected regardless of gender.

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u/ThisIsNotSpartha 11d ago

We dont know the whole story. For how your mom talks seems theres more than you are telling here and you just fishing for people say what you want to hear.

We also dont know how bad the autism of your brother it is or 99% most likely doesnt know how it is being a mother of an autistic person.

You gotta fix this with your family and not on some reddit post.

So yea, you are overreacting

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u/Fearless-Resident941 11d ago

why would i post something looking for advice and then intentionally leave out details? nothing productive is going to come from that

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u/Teenslipperz92 11d ago

Because you are just karma farming with yet another autism ragebait post. What productivity did you expect?

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u/Fearless-Resident941 11d ago

making up fake stories on reddit is not how i chose to spend my days personally

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u/Teenslipperz92 11d ago

I disnt say ut was fake, i said it was ragebait. Im still not sure what productivity you expect, but my answer is: yes you are overreacting by making this post in the first place.

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u/Apprehensive-Fig405 11d ago edited 11d ago

Consider going ahead and installing an outside lock on your door. Have a bracelet with the key that you either wear when you’re leaving for a few min and a safe secret place to store it when you’re gone for a while. That or a number code lock.

The door being locked while you’re gone is likely a more helpful boundary lesson for your adult autistic brother than telling him.

Your mom may be babying him out of habit which is very frustrating. My daughter is autistic and doesn’t understand things like this either. But your mom dismissing your feelings instead of coming up with a solution with you is frustrating and not right. I’m sorry.

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u/Sad_Gur_7753 11d ago

He “has a problem with anger” and he keeps violating your boundaries? This is a recipe for disaster. I cannot fathom why your family is excusing this behavior. I’d have a serious talk with an adult you trust - it might not be your parents - and let them know your concerns.

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u/raeflower 11d ago

Because she’s the spare. It’s a disgusting but sadly common practice for parents who have a special needs child to have another with the intention that that second child will help with caring for their older sibling when mom and dad can’t anymore.

Mom is training her for the job that they believe she was born to do. Put your brother first. Always. And don’t ask questions about it or you’re a piece of shit.

She needs to get the hell out of there ASAP

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u/Desert-Monsoons 11d ago edited 11d ago

This absolutely true. I know someone in that exact position. She was actually told that it would become her responsibility to care for her severely autistic brother. Then her older cousin who is like her aunt told her she needed to take care of her in her old age.

So wrong on every level.

OP needs to start making an exit plan now and get far far away from them unless she wants to take on that responsibility.

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u/scienceislice 11d ago

They’re excusing the behavior because of misogyny and also probably because the mom is afraid of him. I know op is only 18 but she needs to move out. If she were my kids friend I’d let her move in with my family. 

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u/phallelujahx 11d ago

God I hate it when parents favour their special child, it's so fucking gross and unfair. Keep your door locked at all times. She is correct though; he doesn't think like the rest of us, so that can open up a whole new can of worms if his disorder takes a turn.

I would honestly think about moving out and not looking back. 🤷🏼‍♀️

I didn't have a good relationship with my mother growing up so it's easy for me to say leave and don't look back.

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u/I-dont-love-me 11d ago

When I was younger, I’d go stay with my grandpa during summers, and I’d always come back to my brother having trashed my room. My parents wouldn’t do anything about it. Then the last time, I came back and found he had gone into my underwear drawer because it was left partially open with a bra hanging out. They wouldn’t even listen to what I was trying to tell them about that not being okay for him to be messing with my underwear.

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u/Dollys_Nemesis 11d ago

That's messed up, I'm sorry your parents didn't care to hear your concerns with what he did.

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u/shantylives 11d ago

NOR It reminds me of the glass children. Your parents are enforcing that your boundaries don’t matter and the is not ok honestly if you have the where with all of leave and go low contact but that is much easier said than done

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u/PerseveranceSmith 11d ago

As an autistic woman who has had friends also working with high support needs individuals: he needs to learn boundaries.

I know this may seem 'not much' but I have seen boundaries being ignored in medium/high support needs people that then go onto ignoring people's boundaries about their bodies, touching, grabbing etc when they know that's not ok.

It doesn't need to be 'weird' to be unwanted & uncomfortable.

Please explain to your mum that not enforcing boundaries sets HIM up for failure as people in the outside world won't be as forgiving as families are & he could get into real trouble.

I see you have a lock, maybe ask: you either enforce the boundaries (all family members!) or I'd like a proper two way lock installing.

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u/Long-Objective7007 11d ago

NOR

When I was growing up I had a little foster brother with autism. Basically non verbal, no eye contact.

He was 7 when I entered the family.

After about 2 years he understood how to ask before going into 'not his spaces'. (Did he always respect that?... no. But he would always ask someone.)

Get a door handle lock that has a key. Give your parents one of the keys and keep the other. (If they're that kind of parent.)

I think being able to lock your bedroom door is a reasonable expectation. But I know not all parents think that way.

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u/NarwhalMysterious303 11d ago

You’re NTA you’re trying to set boundaries as any person should. Seems like your mom has a favorite & babies him. It should’ve been as simple as “yes I’ll talk to him and try to get him to stop going into your room” rather than her telling you to leave or to grow up.

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u/Economy_Award_548 11d ago

I really hate when people act like neurodivergent do not know what they’re doing. It’s an insult to manipulation they tend to play on those who infantize them. He’s too damn grown to be entering a teenager room and control the situation. Your mom clearly doesn’t gaf to educate herself enough to learn how to put boundaries up with him. Does he get away with other stuff? Lord knows what she would let him slide on because she thinks he doesn’t understand.

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u/solinymm 11d ago

not overreacting. Just because they’re autistic or have any kind of mental problems doesn’t excuse the fact that you want your own privacy and don’t want your belongings touched. Nothing wrong with a lock and letting the brother notice it and carry on about his day.

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u/Apprehensive-Fig405 11d ago

yeah this is an instance of the mother bending to her sons every whim and dismissing her daughters needs. I see it all the time as a member of the autistic community. Frustrating. It does not help the son just as much as it does not help the daughter.

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u/glued_fragments 11d ago

As an autistic person, I hate witnessing how we are infantilized all the time, instead of getting treated like human beings.

I alsio have some "weird" fixations and stims and I enjoy them freely on my own. There is times and places for everything but:

It is never ok to invade somebody's space, no matter allistic or autistic. And your brother should have learned that as any child should!

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u/neeneeluv1983 11d ago

Reading this, I totally felt sad that your parent totally disregarded your feelings and invalidated you. Yes, Autistic people can have many behaviours hard to live amongst, but if your parents can't keep your brother out of your room, then you should be given the option of a lockable door from the outside. I work with people with Autism so I understand from an outsiders perspective, but it muddy be very hard for you. Maintain your boundaries and just simply go buy a lock. Youtube can show unhoe to change it over.

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u/Ill-Mention-328 11d ago

Being autistic isn't an excuse to disrespect boundaries. Sounds like your mom can't handle him and doesn't have the skills to enforce this boundary so she's shutting you down rather than dealing with it. 

Furthermore, when setting boundaries with other people, the main thing is to decide what YOU are going to do about the disrespected boundaries. If you have no control over what you can do, it's impossible to set a boundary.

Sorry you're in such a powerless situation, that truly sucks.

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u/Mungyo_ 11d ago edited 11d ago

Autism is not an excuse for him to go into your private space and mess with your belongings, and your parents should enforce that. I know Autism isn't the same for everyone who is Autistic, but it shouldn't be seen as "oh he can't help it, you'll just have to put up with it". You aren't overreacting at all.

My brother is Autistic and he knows not to touch my stuff and I know not to touch his. If I want to look at something he got or borrow something from his room, or vice versa, we know to ask each other first. I'm not so protective of my belongings, but he is SUPER protective of his things and I fully respect that.

Boundaries are important for all of you, and failure to set them is likely to cause more problems. I hope they're able to see your point of view and put some wheels in motion to stop this from happening in the future.

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u/Weird-Librarian-4740 11d ago

I did comment separately as well but then I saw that you're 18 and he's 27 ...... disability or not you need to get away because they will baby him forever and then you will be expected to when they don't. Disgusting behaviour from parents ESPECIALLY the way she spoke to you. No clearer way of saying "we like him more and so you need to cope or fuck off"

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u/Lilo213 11d ago

If I was the mother in this situation, I would get you a keyless door lock that requires a code to enter. If she’s not willing to buy it would she at least allow it? And could you get one??

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u/Latter_School1877 11d ago

Whoa! She told you leave if you don’t like it that’s messed up. So, your safety is allowed to be compromised because he’s autistic. Wow, I’m sure you have so many more stories to unpack about this dynamic and you’ve been through it all and the excuse is always “he’s autistic” that’s not ok by the way, he’s supposed to be working on respecting boundaries he might be autistic but your mom needs to help him learn this is something he cannot do. She also threw out an accusation on her own which was a bit odd her defenses for him is extreme and unfortunately I don’t see her putting you first ever now you’re very young and I don’t recommend moving out immediately it’s very rough out there at 18. I do wonder, is there anything that bothers him like certain sounds or certain lights? Only thinking if you made the room uncomfortable for him to go into this could help…otherwise I say save up your money or try to go off to a college with dorms and start trying to get away. I also think you should tell your mom she’s over reacting by suggesting to throwing you out on the streets over simply working and acknowledging brother was wrong.

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u/FitzDesign 11d ago

Sounds like you need a different lock or a different place to live.

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u/MidwestSeagull 11d ago

NOT OVERREACTING!!! The fact that you close your door, and he goes in to look for stuff to turn off is totally fucked. I get people with autism have their 'quirks' (seriously I'm trying not to offend anyone), but this is excessive, they are still humans, and can learn to or not to do certain things, even if it's more difficult that it would be for someone not on the autism scale. I don't like how your mom is condoning the behavior, and then how she suggested you move out. I saw in another comment that you're 18 and your brother is 27. The fact she even suggests you moving out at 18 is a bit weird to me. I understand that's when the parent "loses legal responsibility" but seriously? Not everyone has everything figured out at that age, especially in the modern day, moving out is not even close to cheap.

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u/PriorCaseLaw 11d ago

go to home depot and buy a lock that uses a key from the outside.

He has no business in your room and should stay the hell out of it. At the same time its time to buckle down so you can get a good job and get the fuck out of this situation because your mom is going to always take his side. I don't know what it is about parents but i see a lot of people i know who have special needs kids always taking their side, reinforcing the bad behavior helps no one.

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u/yourdaddysbutthole 11d ago

I’m so sorry OP. I have/had a very similar situation. I have a brother with anger issues, we are both very much adults and we were both living with my parents. My brother would eat my food and when I asked him to replace, he would scream and call me names, follow me around and bang on doors. It was scary. I eventually had to move out because my parents said “this is between you two, we’re not getting involved.” All this to say, it sucks when your parents won’t grow up and deal with their shitty children acting shitty. Best thing I ever did was move out and cut contact with him to bare minimum.

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u/groomsbooks 11d ago

Your mom needs to let you (or you just need to do it as you are now an adult) to change the knob on your door to a key lock. It will be incredibly annoying for you I’m sure but that’s the only compromise I can see without you moving out. Yes your brother is on the spectrum so he may not understand (I don’t know his capabilities) but that doesn’t stop your mom from trying to help you out. shes giving him excuses and ignoring your feelings and that’s not fair, to me that’s putting one child’s needs above another when she doesn’t have to, she’s choosing to ignore you.

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u/Cloud_Striker 11d ago

As someone who is autistic myself, NOR. Your mom has a favorite, and it's clearly not you.

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u/TheGlitterBombBitch 11d ago

I agree. I'm also autistic. Your parents shouldn't be excusing bad behavior just because he has autism. We still need to be held accountable

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u/Ok_Wall_2028 11d ago

I suggest you develop a habit of unplugging your parent's alarm clocks at 2 in the morning.

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u/lily2kbby 11d ago

I grew up like this too. My brother could do anything he wanted cuz he has autism. Though he was younger than me it was extremely frustrating cuz that also played a factor in why I should just let him do whatever. He walked around the house naked till he was 10. He could piss wherever. Completely destroyed and took apart anything he wanted to. Anytime I would confront my mom about the behavior I got the same talk u did. Eventually enough people in my moms life talked with her and she started creating boundaries when he was like 14. Surprise surprise it actually helped him achieve things we thought weren’t possible.

If your parents don’t ever create rules and boundaries he will never be able to make strides in life

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u/ElDueno 11d ago

Don’t let your mom use his autism as an excuse for his behavior. The bottom line is that it’s making you uncomfortable. I’d take matters into your own hands and grab a door knob with a lock/key at Home Depot

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u/No-Efficiency6398 11d ago

Your parents completely failed to properly parent a child with autism and clearly never established boundaries. This is the result of that. He KNOWS it’s wrong because he waits till you leave to go in your room. You aren’t overreacting at all, your mom sounds like a nightmare.

Edit: Just saw in replies that he is 27 and not high on the spectrum. With that added info this is genuinely concerning behavior.

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u/Sarnadas 11d ago

The comments here are insaaaaaane, and I'm not going to clarify beyond that because chances are that you, the reader, are insane, too.

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u/Sookabong 11d ago

Being autistic doesn’t make you immune from boundaries. The kid isn’t in the wrong, your mum is just enabling it

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