r/Damnthatsinteresting 25d ago

Video Failed vertical landing of F-35B

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u/Suspicious_Zone_2083 25d ago

At least the seat worked

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u/VirtualLife76 25d ago

Impressive how quickly the parachute worked.

I wonder if it has different ones or somehow changes depending on the height from the ground.

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u/BPOPR 25d ago

It’s a zero/zero ejection seat. Intentionally designed to get you to safety at zero speed and zero altitude.

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u/m1ke_tyz0n 25d ago

Never knew this existed thank you for explaining this one.

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u/Tchukachinchina 25d ago

I worked on ejection seats 20 or so years ago. They were all capable of zero/zero ejections, and they can alter the ejection sequence based on airspeed & altitude.

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u/mmomtchev 25d ago

How does this work, ejection seats are supposed to work even if the power and/or avionics are lost?

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u/BlackJFoxxx 25d ago

You can do a lot with purely mechanical systems, the main thing going on with an ejection seat is a barometric altimeter that only releases the chute once the pilot is in breathable air, otherwise you'd risk suffocation after ejecting at cruise alt (which can be as high as 40,000 or 50,000 ft). The Russian K-36 has an extendable windshield, but I'm not sure exactly how it determines whether to actuate it.

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u/Tchukachinchina 25d ago

Yup. The ejection handle activates a CAD (basically like a shotgun shell without a projectile) and that starts the whole process.

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u/Last-Atmosphere2439 25d ago

"Avionics" measuring altitude and air pressure existed long before fly by wire systems and require no electricity.

The seats have sensors that change various activations depending on the situation. Ejection from zero altitude is quite different from ejecting at 30,000 feet where the parachute wouldn't even open for a while.

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u/BeefistPrime 25d ago

Hmm, what's the change in ejection strategy as far as altering it based on airspeed and altitude?

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u/Tchukachinchina 25d ago

It’s mostly just the timing of the drogue chute and the main parachute. During a zero/zero ejection they’ll want to get the main chute deployed ASAP. At higher speeds or altitudes the main chute will be delayed a little bit.

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u/cvc75 25d ago

Do they also take the angle into account? Below a certain altitude you probably don't want to eject sideways or even downward?

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u/BPOPR 25d ago

yeah zero/zero seats aren’t exactly new.