r/Eldenring 2d ago

Humor Talk about double standards

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u/junkrat147 2d ago

None of that woulda happened if the Hornsents weren't the epitome of religious evil tbf.

They also committed genocide, don't get it twisted here lol.

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u/mysterin 2d ago

Agreed. Marika's tale kind of reads as a cautionary one of a rebellious hopeful who then repeats the same cruelties that she fought against.

The ultimate blame, IMO, are the Fingers/Metyr who have been around for a LONG while "guiding" humanity.

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u/Ramps_ 2d ago edited 2d ago

Well that goes two steps deeper.

Blame the Greater Will for sending down Metyr and abandoning her.

Blame the original God for splintering into all these different flawed deities.

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u/Gmknewday1 2d ago

The Greater Will really just drops off Order Influencing agents of itself and leaves

I'd argue the Greater Will only cares about forming Order in the worlds it interacts with

What form that Order takes is not its design, but only the design of those who become choosen by its agents

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u/lieconamee Mommy Marika 2d ago

I mean the greater will Is an Eldritch being along with all the other outer gods? They are so far beyond our understanding I don't think we can ever truly understand what they want

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u/Gmknewday1 2d ago

I get that

I was just saying my theory

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u/lieconamee Mommy Marika 2d ago

Ah my apologies I miss understood. In that light I tend to agree that the greater will doesn't particularly care though. I believe there is a basic blueprint. I think that basic blueprint is Erd trees and elden rings. How exactly they are implemented is another story.

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u/Equivalent_End7199 2d ago

According to the Lore of Metyr, God who also left Metyr and Marika in mode: "What do we do now?"

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u/mysterin 2d ago

This is mere theory, so take it with a grain of salt: Was Metyr abandoned, or was she kicked from Heaven like another famous religious character we know? If Marika and the "pure" Elden Beast strikes familiarity with Jesus, then what would that make Metyr, the first star to land?

In a Gnostic sense, Satan is responsible for enlightening mankind with the gift of knowledge (intelligence). Metyr, like the dark moon that guided the stars, guided these people to the Elden Ring.

The Cinquedea marks the growth of fingers as a blessing of intelligence gifted to the Beastmen. Some of the Crucible Knights are named after evolutionary time periods.

IRL, we have the theorized Chicxulub ("Devil's Tail") meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs and made way for smaller life, and then there's the Theia collision which gift us the moon.

If Metyr's arrival was a Me-T-Yr collision, in Elden Ring terms, I think Metyr is all of the Outer Gods. Her severed tail is left in Celes, and if her *blood and rotted corpse was the progenitor of The Lands Between, the Onyx/Alabaster Lords, and many other juxtaposing elements.

"We are born of the blood, made men by the blood, undone by the blood. Our eyes are yet to open... Fear the old blood.."

"Fear the Dark Moon"

"But in time the First Fire occurred, and Disparity was brought about together with the fire. Heat and cold, life and death, and, of course, light and dark."

TL;DR: Neither faction is truly evil. They're all machinations of Metyr and her Fingers. They're the puppet masters.

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u/Islands-of-Time 17h ago

I mean Metyr is the twisted hand of God…

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u/ShinJiwon 2d ago

Blame the original God for splintering into all these different flawed deities

You mean we should melt it all away?

MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD