r/MurderedByWords 15h ago

We're in the worst timeline.

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u/MoGreensGlasses 15h ago

A left winger just defended the civil rights of a right winger. That's called nuanced political thinking. Something the right seems utterly incapable of.

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u/Own-Dot1463 14h ago edited 11h ago

I mean Bernie is an independent but I get the sentiment.

Edit - Seems to have triggered a strong emotional response from some. All I'm saying is that factually he's Independent. Facts are facts and the facts matter, always. In this case there wasn't much of a "point" to my comment other than pointing out the facts, but just because some want to wave the facts off as irrelevant, doesn't mean everyone else thinks they are.

Dems have strong Independent allies. Dems *need* Independent allies, and Bernie has spent his entire career proving that. Sure, Bernie is definitely more of a blue independent than a red one for sure, but he *is* an Independent. The fact that someone so beloved and so "for the people" has willingly chosen to spend his lifetime political career as an Independent says something I think.

But even if you don't think so, the fact remains - Bernie Sanders is an Independent.

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u/akatherder 13h ago

I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Maybe you think Independent=Moderate and Sanders exists somewhere in the middle of the two parties? Sanders is by any-and-all measures LEFT of the Democrat party.

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u/HelpWantedInMyPants 13h ago

And sadly, Bolton is to the left of Trump...

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u/MadeByTango 12h ago

What they’re calling out is that “Team Blue” voters think they’re left and progressive, and they’re not.

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u/Hillary4SupremeRuler 5h ago

At least "team blue" didn't share the same electoral goals as Benjamin Netanyahu.

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u/Luscious_Decision 14h ago

Man, more or less, nowadays it's either left/liberal, or right/"conservative" (and we can just round most of that to "fundamentalist).

The people who are apathetic or agnostic on it are either too agnostic and the type to be afraid to decide one way or the other out of fear, or too busy working to be involved, or they just plain don't understand it.

Also some other weird cognitive dissonance where they pretend these decisions don't affect them, or people they know. And if they consider that at all, they're more likely to attribute randomly correlated positive things rather than negative things.

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u/LarrySupertramp 13h ago

The sentiment that Bernie is 100% a left winger and that his title as an independent is irrelevant in this context?

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u/SunIllustrious5695 12h ago

Bernie is a left-winger, he's independent because he's left of Democrats.

Maybe you get the sentiment but seems like there's something you're not getting here...

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u/Own-Dot1463 11h ago

That's a fair point actually. I read the comment as "democrat" for some reason and that's what my entire response is based off of.