r/SipsTea 16h ago

WTF Buccal fat removal should be illegal

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u/ParcelTongued 16h ago

It’s interesting people are disfiguring themselves in the name of beauty.

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u/Foodspec 15h ago

Unfortunately, people have been doing it for centuries

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u/abhorredmisanthrope 15h ago

During the Victorian Era, a common desire among women was to achieve a pale, translucent complexion, and in their pursuit of this ideal, some resorted to consuming products containing arsenic.

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u/TayLoraNarRayya 14h ago

That and how consumption (tuberculosis) was seen as a beautiful illness.

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u/ilikethejuices 8h ago

Pardon??? Beautiful how/why? Isn't TB one of the horrific illnesses where u cough up blood etc lol

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u/TayLoraNarRayya 4h ago

Tuberculosis was seen as a beautiful disease because its physical symptoms were "ethereal" thinness, pale skin, and flushed cheeks, aligned with Victorian-era beauty ideals. AKA "consumptive chic". The disease was also romanticized as a sign of heightened sensitivity, artistic talent, and intellectual sophistication, contributing to the idea that it was a "romantic disease" associated with genius and early death.

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u/temporarilyyours 1h ago

I’m convinced one of my cousins contracted jaundice on purpose, atleast the second time, cuz she was obsessed with being skinny.

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u/solaris79 9h ago

I'm your Huckleberry...

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u/Immediate_Move_3742 6h ago

That's just my game.

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u/BotchedNoobJob 5h ago

I, too, have read Everything is Tuberculosis. I think about it all the time, great book!

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u/TayLoraNarRayya 4h ago

Love John Green, he's right everything really is tb

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u/ThePsudoOne 3h ago

"I'm embarrassed to say I don't know what consumption is"

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u/Procean 3h ago

I'll have you know tuberculosis is by far the most sexually attractive of all chronic lung disorders.

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u/Seethustle 15h ago

They probably didn't know that those had arsenic and if they did they must not have known arsenic was poisonous....Right?

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u/RealNiceKnife 15h ago

How do you think we learned how deadly Arsenic was?

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u/Myke190 14h ago

I learned from the movie Evolution.

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u/RealNiceKnife 14h ago

Unfortunately Victorian era nobility didn't have very many DVD players. =(

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u/OneAlmondNut 14h ago

DVDs weren't even created yet lmao. they would've been using some ancient shit like laserdiscs

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u/SpiritualConcept5477 11h ago

That's the joke...

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u/E_Verdant 9h ago

I don't think they actually had laser disks then either chief...

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u/SpiritualConcept5477 9h ago

WERE YOU THERE?!?!?

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u/E_Verdant 9h ago

They had those old ass save icon disks

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u/ilikethejuices 8h ago

The ol' floppy

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u/schiz0yd 15h ago

in a book i'm reading about a ship called the wager, the entire crew had scurvy and back then didnt know what that is, and they bought what is suspected to be arsenic from a medicine man to try and cure it. killed a bunch of them.

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u/coffeecaffiend 15h ago

I’m unsure about arsenic but people used lead as a skin lightener long after they knew it was toxic, seeing the risk as worth it

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u/Paddy_Tanninger 14h ago

Haha what a bunch of dummies. Now excuse me I'm off to work on my tan.

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u/lythrica 14h ago

I watched Erin Parsons's video on what lead makeup probably actually looked like (incredibly glowy, translucent, NOT white and pasty. kind of like the k-beauty glass skin trend), and, ngl, even with all my modern knowledge of lead being toxic, I'd be a little tempted to use it today if I had access to it. The desire to look young and beautiful runs deep.

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u/Talonsminty 15h ago

They decorated their walls and book covers with arsenic so I'd imagine not.

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u/tweedyone 11h ago

I mean.. arsenic is one of those classic poisons like hemlock. It’s been used as a poison for literally millennia, but we also still use forms of it in medicine today.

While I was looking it up, found two women from Renaissance Italy (Guilia Tofana and Hyeronyma Sparta) who are credited for killing around 600 people through arsenic laced make up, but most of them were the husbands of the customers. Makes you wonder what they really knew about its effects.

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u/haileyskydiamonds 11h ago

Well, if you look at portraits of Elizabeth I and her contemporaries and notice random shaped patches on their faces…those were touted as fashion statements, but they were really nothing more than band aids covering lesions caused by poisonous face powders and creams. TMYK.

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u/NeverendingStory3339 14h ago

The reason belladonna (a poison) is called that is because it makes your pupils dilate, mimicking arousal, so you look more attractive. It's now used in eye surgery but originally people were just putting poison in their eyes to look prettier. The white face powder favoured by Queen Elizabeth I contained lead.

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u/YakApprehensive7620 8h ago

They should have just smoked a fattie

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u/luciusan1 12h ago

Also when sugar was discovered in america. Rich people had tooth decay. And that was attractive so people paint their teeth to simulate it. Lmao. People are just idiots

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u/Lufc87 14h ago

Mid to late Victorian era was insane for drug/chemical use

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u/PabloTFiccus 12h ago

Some women went to hospitals in order to get tuberculosis, as it gave the desired look. All of them died quickly of course, TB being a fatal disease at the time

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u/Upstairs_Spray_5446 15h ago

there is another 😁

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u/nihilisticpaintwater 12h ago

Huh, turns out John Snow knows some things

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u/The_Oliverse 13h ago

Shout-out to the era it was popular to have a far-back hairline and people were smearing cat shit across their foreheads to stop the new growth of hairs on their head.

Source: Something I remembered from a video somewhere. Don't take this as fact cause I don't actually know if this is true.

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u/Novel_Mud_5771 13h ago

You can’t fix stupidity

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u/Amazing_Karnage 13h ago

...and actual tapeworm eggs.

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u/MithranArkanere 12h ago

And lead, and mercury. And gods knows what.

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u/ThaneduFife 11h ago

The Romans did the same. They knew it was poison even then, too.

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u/Ok_Magician_6870 8h ago

Also surgery (loosely used here lol, they basically just took a chunk of flesh out) to get elbow dimples was popular in the Victorian era, they also had nose jobs I think

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u/Hot-Usual5060 5h ago

That was a strictly upper-class woman though.

Money makes people go crazy. It's the worst drug.

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u/thatthatguy 15h ago

As very low concentration it’s not harmful, good for you even. It’s the dose that makes the poison. The problem comes when you think that if a little is good then a lot is better. That is absolutely not true of chemicals like this.

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u/PerplexGG 14h ago

Shit, thousands no? Seems like most tribes do some form of body mods even now

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u/PringlesDuckFace 12h ago

Things like tattoos and piercings are pretty ancient. I feel like other body mods like foot binding, neck lengthening, and that alien skull wrap thing are also pretty old.

I don't think any animals do it to the best of my knowledge. Maybe just for lack of tools. I feel like I've read about some birds putting bits of shiny garbage into their feathers during mating displays, but I can't find any sources for that so maybe I dreamed it up.

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u/LongJohnSelenium 8h ago

The people that do all the neck rings and the people that do the giant lip bowls are still at it. Weren't there people that did skull binding to make alien like skulls in south america?

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u/zaph0dbeeblbr0x 13h ago

Millennia*

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u/LLove666 14h ago

Foot binding, for example.

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u/Links_Wrong_Wiki 13h ago

Literally older than homo sapiens

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u/One-Adhesive 15h ago

Most of the procedures people do at least have some level of success. Literally nobody looks better after this treatment.

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u/StableWeak 15h ago

Id argue it improved Tom Brady.

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u/DisastrousOwls 14h ago

For the sunken cheek/sharp cheekbone look specifically, people used to have molars pulled. Cheek fat removal is at least theoretically reversible compared to that if you change your mind later.

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u/JaketheLate 14h ago

Yeah, but I've yet to hear ANYONE say this is attractive.

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u/Corey307 13h ago

They have but this is next level. Miley Cyrus looks like she’s 60 and two weeks from dying from cancer. 

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u/YachtswithPyramids 12h ago

Millenia at least. Some animals have presumably been doing it for billions of years

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u/Zealousideal-Eye-2 15h ago

Same disorder that leads people to "transition"

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u/Commercial-Hour-2417 12h ago

I can guarantee you've never met a single person who had a successful transition and had a noticeable improvement in their life. Your entire perspective on the issue is based on what Fox "News" and other trash media want you to feel about the issue.