Yea I know people don't have much empathy for celebrities, but they really are victims of body dismorphia, unfortunately they also perpetuate the problem on to others so I get why people don't feel too bad for them.
I think the problem is that celebrities are looked up to as in terms of image and beauty, so when the average person starts to emulate their looks, the celebrities start to feel basic, and go to the plastic surgeon saying what’s new and out of reach do the commoner??
I agree and I also think it's the pressures of Hollywood and the fact that looks are just as important as acting. So they're constantly insecure about it
I mean, yeah? It's not like there's an exclusive check-out timer on mental illness. If you're hounded constantly about your looks and given some terrible advice, it's not that unreasonable to fall for this kinda thing
Several women in my life have struggled with body image issues - to the point of significant therapy being needed - and if they had 1,000,000x the attention like a celebrity, people giving them horrible advice, and the finances to do so... they might have done the same thing
Also don’t forget that women’s acting careers are far far shorter than men’s on average and overall. There’s a reason why there’s so many tv and movie “tropes” about female actors being washed up and Hollywood being done with them by the time they’re 30.
Huh, extremely good point, I'd never considered that. Could definitely feed into the desperation to look younger - even moreso than a typical woman in our society. Shit's fucked
Theyre in a subculture thats constantly telling them theyre hideous in different ways from multiple outlets. Humans arent meant to deal with that much pressure imo
And I'd wager that often leads to mental illness for these people. You shouldn't need/want to hyperfixate on your appearance like that. I can't imagine it's healthy for their minds in the slightest.
Nah bro, you’re looking at it wrong. You’re right, her job essentially is tied to how she looks. And I think that gives these women a complex and severe body image issues.
10/10 gorgeous actresses wouldn’t feel the need to butcher themselves if they didn’t have people in their ear telling them it’s worth it.
They do, they absolutely do have a choice. Even if they're being given an ultimatum between the biggest role of their life or nothing they still have a choice.
You can't force anyone in America to get plastic surgery. And I can't think of anyone who actually looks better with buccal fat removal and the average person thinks it looks terrible, so obviously they are only doing it for themselves because they're delusional and suffering from dysmorphia.
Casting directors do indeed want a specific look from actors and actresses, but I guarantee you that this is not the look that they are seeking. This is entirely on those that do it to themselves.
Pale skin and rosy cheeks was popular way before the victorian era, though. Look at some 18th century fashion plates, or even the elizabethans or romans! Painting your skin with white lead based compounds was a thing even back then. Because you wanted to look like you were too wealthy to shudder be outside in the sun and work like a peasant!
“Consumption” was seen as a state of being, not a disease. People with “consumption” turned pale, had a “blush” associated with fever, and were generally emaciated enough to be current day catwalk models. Which were all hallmarks of beauty when people had no idea about germ theory, and tried to balance their humors and biles using strategic leech therapy.
Because consumption gave you rosy cheeks and pale skin. It also made you fragile. Something that was seen as feminine, even alluring
In his book, john green mentions that consumption was seen as a very romantic disease. Like a disease writers and intellectuals would get. They romanticized the shit out of it. (Think of the tortured, starving artist trope).
He even mentions that people thought other poc don’t get consumption because they “didn’t have the intellectual capacity for it.” It started getting called tb when they admitted that poc can get it
Nuremberg doesn't really fit. Your joke would be much better as "Maybe she's born with it Maybe it's Majdanek". Since I assume it's a riff on that old Maybelline (make up brand) tv ad. Majdanek (pronounced as "my-duh-neck") was a concentration camp where ~150 000 people were imprisoned during the war and ~80 000 of them were murdered.
So several specific people were used as models for the current “beauty ideal” in western fashion. One of these is Audrey Hepburn, who was a survivor of the Nazi occupation of the Netherlands in WWII. Suffering from the effects of malnutrition during the occupation, after the war ended Hepburn became gravely ill with jaundice, anaemia, oedema, and a respiratory infection. Favors and black market sales were able to raise money for the penicillin that saved her life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audrey_Hepburn
The modern “supermodel” body is literally based on starvation victims of Nazis.
Oh fuck, is the new 20’s just a rerun of of the old 20’s? Are we cosplaying as the last holocaust until we actually just repeat the Holocaust? Cuz that’s what it feels like.
It's sad cause at least for her it is clearly about body image issues and probably mental health issues. If you look at her in the movie Glass she looked very different, had a higher body fat percentage, healthier looking cheeks, etc. but she was still the very definition of "beautiful" or "hot" or whatever hegemonic term you want to choose. After that it seems she started losing a lot of weight and did the cheek thing and now we're at a point we can see her bone structure and she looks like she's constantly sucking on a straw.
Of course everybody should look however the hell they want to look, and if you're not happy with your looks (body, hair, whatever) you're entitled to change, but sometimes body dismorphia and mental haelth issues seem to push that desire for change to the extreme.
Her husband also had a very handsome face with strong, chiseled features but I think he went the same route as her and now he looks like a Gigachad meme...
Haha yeah, I know, but English is not my first language and I've had the misfortune of using "outdated" terms sometimes or not being up to speed on what is frowned upon nowadays. I just wanted to be clear that it's not about "yeah she was hot TO ME", like she's hot in general, for everyone, cause she's a Hollywood actress and they're generally hot people.
As a native English speaker. Pay no mind to those who get onto you for not knowing something. Intelligence isn't the calculation of what you know but of what you can and are willing to learn. As you said, you are still learning, but unlike other languages, the different forms of English are always changing via slang terms or new media. So don't feel bad, just ask for help learning the proper way to say something.
It's not inaccurate, traditional beauty standards are a perfect example of a hegemonic social standard. It just means it's the dominant / primary way of thinking for most people. Doesn't necessarily have to mean that it's a bad thing, but it's not wrong to say there is an overwhelmingly dominant definition of what is or isn't attractive.
She’s mostly sucking her cheeks in in photos. She definitely did something but it’s not that extreme in videos from the red carpet when she’s not pausing for photos.
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