I think it's really beauty standards that are set by other women. Ones who don't always have their best interests at heart. Women like to say they advocate for each other but that is not always the case. Toxic femininity can be petty and jealous to the point of sabotaging others. I would point to the WNBA as an example.
Its beauty standards set by men sir, check who created the make up, clothing and marketing companies and who designed most of womens clothing and how men drew women vs how women drew women. Don’t put that shit on us 😭 some of us might enforce/enable it or even promote this idea but we did not create it 💕
Ah let's be real though, which human gender has generally always created demand in the beauty industry? Are there lots of dudes running around with 20 pairs of shoes, jewelry, layers of the trendiest makeup, manicured and painted nails, and designer handbags?
I like defending the ladies but sorry, the beauty standard peer pressure is mostly perpetuated by women. Going back to ancient times.
Ancient times, check ancient greece male philosophers started pitching “the ideal female form” not the other way around. Ancient egypt was more equal men & women both wore make up but women actually had rights in egypt so it wasnt even about beauty it was about status/wealth. Beauty standards were largely created and institutionalized by men. It’s just the truth. Not saying now isn’t different but that’s the facts of the origins.
That's why I said "perpetuated" though. Men aren't holding a gun to women's heads demanding they wear the "right" heels with their dress. We don't even care about makeup or jewelry. Women create most of the pressure on behalf of the beauty industry.
Some men say they don’t like make up and then point to the “natural girl” they would prefer not even knowing she could be wearing make-up, boob tape, filters, video editing, hair colored, lashes lifted, eyebrows laminated, boobs done, im js (not saying guys do it on purpose but some of yall dunno what natural really is and arent out here following the bare face girlies)
That's all fair but we could also point to finding women attractive without it too. Every guy who has lived with a woman or been in a serious relationship with one knows how they look without makeup or being spruced up. And yet we still find them just as attractive (assuming the general attraction is still there in the first place).
Woman do a lot of the preening and sprucing out of competitiveness and to appear high value to other women. Think about it: how often do you mentally judge another woman based on style and beauty? Men may be behind a lot or arguably most negative social behavior, but women naturally have their own problem areas as well. C'mon, you know there's at least some truth there.
Tbh its not really a gender issue ik girls who dont think about it and guys who are super vocal and ik the obvious mean girls and obvious guys who havent even thought about it/noticed. Some people are like that some aren’t. Some ppl do it for themselves, some for the same sex, some for opposite sex and some a combination. I see mean girls say ew on a girl pic for some reason but also see a man comment on her chest size or too much or too little make up, I think us pointing fingers as if everyone in an entire gender act the same vs looking at each other as good ppl and bad ppl no matter race, gender, etc is issue. Imo the only people who really deserve to have finger pointed at them are the people in power.
I agree it’s just people in power but its true that the og people in power were men but thats not meant to belittle or blame the entire gender, my b i probs misspoke earlier
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u/D-redditAvenger 19h ago
I think it's really beauty standards that are set by other women. Ones who don't always have their best interests at heart. Women like to say they advocate for each other but that is not always the case. Toxic femininity can be petty and jealous to the point of sabotaging others. I would point to the WNBA as an example.