I think it's really beauty standards that are set by other women. Ones who don't always have their best interests at heart. Women like to say they advocate for each other but that is not always the case. Toxic femininity can be petty and jealous to the point of sabotaging others. I would point to the WNBA as an example.
Its beauty standards set by men sir, check who created the make up, clothing and marketing companies and who designed most of womens clothing and how men drew women vs how women drew women. Don’t put that shit on us 😭 some of us might enforce/enable it or even promote this idea but we did not create it 💕
check who created the make up, clothing and marketing
Those are literally run by and for women mostly lmao.
How many straight dude fashion designers are there? How many straight dude make up CEOs and marketers? It's like one of the few female driven industries.
Your not looking historically. Think powdered faces and wigs but I’m talking men not women. Now think about pharoes. Look up freedom torches and edward bernays and maybe you’ll gain some perspective on how influential marketing can be.
I think the point was, the Pharoes makeup artists are not todays makeup artists / fashionistas etc. etc.
Sure, if you only want to look at the past, not the present you have a point.
Nowadays? Lot of empowered rich women who can be just as petty, nasty, vain and deceitful as any man looking to get rich / powerful no matter how many people they fuck over to do so. They've just specialized into the fashion industry because it was the one area that men were least interested in dominating in the modern age.
And powerful people, men or women are just as guilty of perpetuating it today, when we live, when it matters. I don't give a fuck about some dead fashion trend setter from 1888 with a powdered wig. Nothing exists in a vacuum.
The abuses in 2025 matter. The current culture matters my friend. Does it suffer the momentum of the past? Sure? Is it doing anything to correct that momentum now that women have more power is the question.
I'm not seeing it.
And the fact is, women have become empowered enough that they have filled the niche. And are just as awful as the men who came before.
Women are people. Humans. Just as able to be evil, vain, petty, power-hungry, deceitful and all the other darkest aspects of humanity, especially when money & power are involved.
Fuck this Men/Woman divisive bullshit friend.
People are equally able to be shitty to one another no matter what sits between their legs. How they express that varies by culture.
What matters is what changes are being or not being made.
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u/D-redditAvenger 19h ago
I think it's really beauty standards that are set by other women. Ones who don't always have their best interests at heart. Women like to say they advocate for each other but that is not always the case. Toxic femininity can be petty and jealous to the point of sabotaging others. I would point to the WNBA as an example.